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  1. #1021
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coolbeans View Post
    My Dnc

    TP
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    Still need Epona's and Atheling. Have a Orthrus pop I need to use. Who knows when Ill get around to doing Rani. Daggers are Dex Kila and Yhatagan with crit dmg +5%.

    WS
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    Still need to get seals and such for af3 hands along with Aias bonnet.

    Waltz
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    Still need to finish moogle expansion for waltz -2 hat. Been meaning to give the dance shoes quest a whirl to try and get something good.

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    Body is Eva -10 fast cast +5.
    Pretty nice builds.

    For starters I wouldn't do another dex dagger. One is good enough for future content (wouldn't bother using one in abyssea though) but your best bet right now is to go ahead and make a STR kila. Even with abyssea considered, DNC is still horribly low on attack and this plus atheling gives quite a significant boost in that department.

    WS build looks solid, you already know what improvements to make.

    Waltz builds I'm not horribly big on CHR anymore since it does so little for increases thus not worth the inv space. Probably would add some -enmity pieces for when you're not tanking

    And if you're serious about DNC, put together a mag acc build for Violent flourish.
    Guess I'll post mine (as well as my other builds) for example

    VF Build

    Using augmented warwolf belt (MP +15) to trigger the latent on miseria ring. Both earrings are augmented with 2 magic acc each but looking to replace them with +1 incubus earrings when I can get a hold of them. Haven't gone with nebula feet either since I like having a bit of acc to land VF with on denali feet.

    All my other builds are pretty standard fare.

    TP.


    WS.


    Steps

    I know Byrthnoth did some recent research showing that +acc gear is pretty much worthless if you're already capped on accuracy, but after doing a few Voidwatch NMs on DNC I definitely whiffed steps more than I wanted to with just + step accuracy gear. So if anything, I'll just keep this set for those things. (also have surge subligar and augmented adroit ring with 4 acc for this set, but left them in storage)

    Waltz

    Anwig is -2 waltz recast, desultor's are -5 waltz cost. Roundel is out of my price range (for now lol)

    Max eva

    More of an idle set when I'm tanking and holding NMs for procs. Recently got rid of antares and went with aurore until I can redo my ACP body. Also have 2 upgraded evasion kilas which is what I usually use for tanking/soloing (with my normal TP setup that is)

    Utsu

    Missing magoraga bead necklace (and inb4 lolninbody.datswap)

  2. #1022
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    There's no point in casting Utsu in 30 gear haste, swap out your body for Aurore. May as well use Ballerines too, same haste as Charis +2.

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    So is Twilight Knife really good for dnc offhand? I remember reading here some time ago a post saying that's not the best choice. Wondering if I should bother with it, using Auric atm.

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    It's definitely not the best due to not being able to proc samba on that hit (but strangely enough set bonus still procs), but right now I'm using it until I (eventually) finish my twashtar/DA parazonium combo. I'm personally not a fan of auric and would use twilight over it due to the higher base damage, lower delay, and drain effects.

  5. #1025
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    You can get 2 INT rings from Vunk gold boxes with up to +5% Spell interruption for a total of +10% if you wanna go all out.

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    So I told myself I'd subject myself to the gauntlet once I finished my Twashtar, so here it goes:

    TP: (I use the Loki's based TP set when appropriate.)
    http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f2...7_190408-1.png

    Rudra's:
    http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f2...607_200335.png

    Evis:
    http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f2...607_200422.png

    SA:
    http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f2...607_200451.png

    TA:
    http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f2...607_200518.png

    Obvious upgrades are +3/4 dex earring, +7 dex/agi rings and anguinus belt/ambusher's hose for TA, but am I missing anything else?

  7. #1027
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    Dusk+1 hands for TP, and +2 boots would put you at haste cap~

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nemesio View Post
    Dusk+1 hands for TP, and +2 boots would put you at haste cap~
    wat

    I'm at the haste cap with my current set and why would I want to trade off the stats on the hands +2 for the stats on the feet +2? Am I missing something?

  9. #1029
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuishen View Post
    wat

    I'm at the haste cap with my current set and why would I want to trade off the stats on the hands +2 for the stats on the feet +2? Am I missing something?
    25% does not equal cap. Unless I am just screwing up my math that hard.

  10. #1030
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nemesio View Post
    25% does not equal cap. Unless I am just screwing up my math that hard.
    Head 6
    Body 5
    Belt 7
    Legs 5
    Feet 3

    5+5+7+3+6 = 26

  11. #1031
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuishen View Post
    Head 6
    Body 5
    Belt 7
    Legs 5
    Feet 3

    5+5+7+3+6 = 26
    My mistake, was under the impression +2 legs were 4%. In that case probably just Bersail Cap for TA? I don't know what your inventory space is like to warrant the 4 more Agi.

  12. #1032
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nemesio View Post
    My mistake, was under the impression +2 legs were 4%. In that case probably just Bersail Cap for TA? I don't know what your inventory space is like to warrant the 4 more Agi.
    The 4% haste will add more to my DPS then the 4 AGI will I imagine, at least that's the impression I've gotten from many of the native THF experts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuishen View Post
    many of the native THF experts.
    http://s4.hubimg.com/u/2270627_f496.jpg

    ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuishen View Post
    The 4% haste will add more to my DPS then the 4 AGI will I imagine, at least that's the impression I've gotten from many of the native THF experts.
    Yes, assuming Haste and both Marches are already present

    Same reason I'd suggest Twilight Belt over Fierce for TA.

    Suppa > Brutal for SA.

    just some basics, haven't gone through the entire gearsets

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    Lightsome Cap for SA?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fatty View Post
    Lightsome Cap for SA?
    4dex+4haste > 7dex for SA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gun-it View Post
    Upgrades other then OAT PLM?
    Terra's staff
    Wyrm armet
    DRG can't use Yew wand +1! :3

    On a serious note, I'm pretty sure you can 5-hit with WS DMG Stingray. Not exactly sure how that rates up against this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigsyke View Post
    Terra's staff
    Wyrm armet
    DRG can't use Yew wand +1! :3

    On a serious note, I'm pretty sure you can 5-hit with WS DMG Stingray. Not exactly sure how that rates up against this.
    would the lose of all the attack/DA be worth it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuishen View Post
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    Wouldn't Denali Bonnet be better for Trick Attack ?

    Has the same Buffs are Aurore (4AGI, 4Haste) but also 3 Attack. I mean, for most people it would seem not worth the inventory...

    Probably wouldn't be a huge difference, but a slight improvement is an improvement ;x

    Edit: and on Non-buffed (Haste) SA, Wouldn't Aias Bonnet > Aurore? I mean, Outside of Abyssea that STR has to count for something. it would essentially be 8STR/8DEX vs 4DEX/4Haste.

    Obviously in high-haste situations Aurore wins hands down... but

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