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    What's Better?

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    Ascetic's Fury:

    Alky vs Enkidu vs Hachiryu Kote?

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    Reposting from last thread cause isla fuckin CLOSED IT

    On the topic of Guillo, upgrades to this set?


    Ultimatum (107D)/Pole/---/Bomblet
    Nhead/PCC/Brutal/Assault
    Hauberk+1/Perle/Rajas/Flame
    Forager's/Virtuoso/Black cuisses/Ares feet

    Things I know:
    - Bomb core instead of bomblet when less acc is needed
    - Need WS Gorget, working on it
    - +6 STR ring maybe

    I use virtuoso because I like the acc, I find I really need it a lot of the time despite having capped skill at 80 and full merits. No abyssal earring (really hard to organize a DM these days... got Suppa forever ago) and so.

    With Diabolic Eye up I intend to swap out Nhead for Varangian when I get it.

    What else should I look into? In Abyssea EXP with a BRD or a COR (not both) I'm averaging 1000-1100 or so with the high end ones being around 1800 (double attacks, etc) and low ends when all hits land around 900.

    I eat pizza+1, btw.

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    Speaking in terms of WS macros:

    Tokon Hachimaki = 5 H2H skill, 12 Accuracy, 5 Conserve TP (H2H skill give DMG: +1)

    Anwig Salade = 4 STR, 25 Accuracy, 5 Attack

    324 H2H skill = 291 Accuracy, 329 H2H skill = 296 Accuracy, so Tokon's H2H skill gives a full 5 accuracy in this case... Attack on Anwig is canceled out by the H2H skill on Tokon also.

    So it comes down to:

    Tokon: DMG+1, 5 Conserve TP

    Anwig: 4 STR, 8 Accuracy

    What's better for WS? (I'm pretty sure the answer is going to be Anwig, but I just want to make sure.)

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    Hagun or Keitonotachi w/ Store TP +5

    don't have the gears for a 5 hit with Keitonotachi but can do a 6 hit. was wondering what is better right now

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maeth View Post
    Hagun or Keitonotachi w/ Store TP +5

    don't have the gears for a 5 hit with Keitonotachi but can do a 6 hit. was wondering what is better right now
    Déjà-vu x20

    (tip: http://www.bluegartr.com/forum/showt...=96004&page=75 and http://www.bluegartr.com/forum/showthread.php?t=94022)

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    Reposting because last thread was closed

    Ranger question. I use Vulcan's/Axe grip when /SAM, should I keep that when I'm /NIN or use Fran/Kriegs? I'm using O.Bow if it matters.

    TP gear is:
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    Aurore Head
    Corvus Torque
    Wilhelm/Altdorf
    Mirke with 10 R.ACC and Snapshot
    Blood hands
    dual Behem+1 rings
    Amemet+1
    Scout's belt
    Aurore Legs
    Skadi feet


    Slug Shot WS gear:
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    Wyvern Helm
    Breeze Gorget
    Wilhelm/Altdorf
    Denali jacket
    Seiryu kote
    dual Behem+1 rings
    Amemet+1
    Bucc. belt
    Aurore legs
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    Quote Originally Posted by ronin sparthos View Post
    Ascetic's Fury:

    Alky vs Enkidu vs Hachiryu Kote?
    I'd probably use Heafoc/Alky's but using -DEX on a weaponskill that can crit seems counterproductive to me. I prefer Howling Fist to Ascetic's Fury myself. That said, I'm no math man.

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    ACP Body for Sam/Nin Utsu piece:

    Getting Fast Cast as the first augment, kinda torn on the 2nd part...

    10acc vs 10eva. I realize both are minor, but I have to choose something. I don't have, nor plan to ever have paladin, so don't bother suggesting +enm to use it on another job.

    Anyway, relevant stats in Utsu set:
    Dex+20 (may drop this more), Skill+12, Accuracy+25 (yay relic), Counter+3, Evasion+8 (merits).

    The question is if basically since I'm dropping even more accuracy from an already low accuracy set if the 10acc will give me more counters than the 10evasion will give evades. I'm kinda leaning towards the accuracy because it seems to me that my evasion is likely floored vs anything I'm going sam/nin to, and said mobs I opt to /nin on are also likely to have higher evasion. Am I wrong?

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    You're talking about SAM ... if you have seigan up to counter in the first place, what's the point worrying if you counter vs anticipate? Both get utsusemi up. I'd go for the evasion personally, since there's a chance it'll make a defensive difference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thorny View Post
    You're talking about SAM ... if you have seigan up to counter in the first place, what's the point worrying if you counter vs anticipate? Both get utsusemi up. I'd go for the evasion personally, since there's a chance it'll make a defensive difference.
    'cause you don't always go from 3rd Eye > Ichi? 1 shadow left and you get DA'd mid cast (or get DA'd and lose 3rd eye). I realize this is some ass-minor thing, and I may as well get BP cooldown or something, but mentally I just want it to be optimal 'cause it'll be macro'd in anyway.

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    SAM can counter without 3rd eye up? Am I missing something?

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    usu hands?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thorny View Post
    SAM can counter without 3rd eye up? Am I missing something?
    MKD hat. Like I said, 3% counter chance. But my best guess is the accuracy for that is a "bigger" difference than 10 evasion, because it seems to be I'm floored evasion on anything I'd /nin on. Again, I understand we're talking really minor shit here.

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    Obviously it's just splitting hairs, so in favour of accuracy+10 you may as well chuck in the fact that, on occasion, you might attempt to cast Utsusemi whilst you're unable to do so (as a result of recast not being up, getting Silenced, trying to recast too quickly after getting interrupted, etc.) and thus take a melee swing whilst wearing the piece. In that scenario, the accuracy is benefiting you in a more direct (albeit almost equally unnoticeable) fashion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xajii View Post
    Reposting from last thread cause isla fuckin CLOSED IT

    On the topic of Guillo, upgrades to this set?


    Ultimatum (107D)/Pole/---/Bomblet
    Nhead/PCC/Brutal/Assault
    Hauberk+1/Perle/Rajas/Flame
    Forager's/Virtuoso/Black cuisses/Ares feet

    Things I know:
    - Bomb core instead of bomblet when less acc is needed
    - Need WS Gorget, working on it
    - +6 STR ring maybe

    I use virtuoso because I like the acc, I find I really need it a lot of the time despite having capped skill at 80 and full merits. No abyssal earring (really hard to organize a DM these days... got Suppa forever ago) and so.

    With Diabolic Eye up I intend to swap out Nhead for Varangian when I get it.

    What else should I look into? In Abyssea EXP with a BRD or a COR (not both) I'm averaging 1000-1100 or so with the high end ones being around 1800 (double attacks, etc) and low ends when all hits land around 900.

    I eat pizza+1, btw.
    Do you have scythe merits? Diabolic eye merits?

    If you're eating pizza you're quite possibly overshooting accuracy if the default level/evasion in ffxicalc is anything to go by. Consider making multiple sets based on what buffs / food you are using and what mobs you're fighting.

    For accuracy upgrades, AF+1 gauntlets, acc ring, cuch/AF cape, perle legs.

    For damage upgrades, Ares body (or something like that?), Alky's (not certain about this vs the attack on perle but they should win out?), Warwolf or that new 6 str belt, AF+1 boots.

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    .03 = .03
    .55/.5 * .03 = .033

    0.3% increase, 0.5% if using usu gote too.. don't really see how that's comparable to 5% minimum from the evasion if uncapped.. SAM has pretty decent evasion. Really, why not use arhats gi+1 if eva is useless anyway? Ichi recast is worthless.

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    Praecis Gorget vs. Sea Gorget for RR/KJ?

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    I feel like the answer is going to be "no" but I want to hear something concrete....

    DNC80, 20% haste, Suppa.

    Would it be worth giving up Swift Belt, Forager's, and PCC for the Tern set's extra 2% haste?

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    Acc capped and no Charis Necklace, yes. Otherwise, no.

    Conversely, if you can't cap your Acc with that, but can with Tiercel Necklace, go with that.

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