Random Question Thread

[arus2001]

Trying to think... is that when you kill some defiant messenger and are then given an item that saps your HP periodically with the objective of getting it back to the forge at the chancel to smash? Think the next objective then was to go back to Kain, who'd get pissed about it being broken and if I recall, yeah, he'd do a nice chunk of damage to you. I survived as a Reaver, but dunno if it's actually set damage or percentage based. I'm hazy on what comes after since it's been a few weeks, but I guess if you survive that, one of the NPCs near him should then ask you to go and talk to other people in the area who basically comment on his behavior of late.

I hadn't completed all the quests in the zone, though, but I eventually bumped into some story info regarding Kain in Stillmoor so I would imagine it later in the chain.

[Lucavi]

Nah, its that Guardian quest where you do marshal kain's questline in IPP and you're supposed to get mail. Fuck if I've gotten it.

[arus2001]

Honestly can't remember if I ever got mail, then. How's your rep for the zone and have you done much questing in it?

[Talragan]

Ok, so i just started playing. Rolled a mage and went stormcaller / pyro

What should I go as 3rd? and I mainly plan on doing pve, although some pvp every now and then.

This spec ok? or should I do something else.

[aznmajiktaru]

As I'm leveling up and doing instances, I'm finding it extremely hard to keep my retard of a cat alive as beast. I'm currently sitting 23 beast/1 para(too lazy to spec out) 26 champ I think as 41. Ran RD tonight and my cat kept dying to boss aoe half the time, the only boss it lived through was the tree I think? Rift isn't a very melee friendly game as it goes and i'm sure it's only going to get worse in experts and raids, so question is how is this still going to be the top dps build if your pet keeps getting his face fucked in?

I know most of the times I have enrage on but even times when I just regular summon it, it dies to aoes; not to mention even in defensive stance cat pet can take maybe 4 hits before it falls over with heals rolling, compared to hunter and mage pets that can tank elites wtf??

[Lucavi]

Honestly can't remember if I ever got mail, then. How's your rep for the zone and have you done much questing in it?

Not a lot of rep, as I didn't initially quest there (hit Shimmersand instead). Is it something you're supposed to have a shit-ton of rep for?

[arus2001]

Couldn't tell ya for sure. I just know rep can reqs for quests alongside actual level requirements. So... get at it. Fortunately you probably won't need to do the dailies to get 'em, but if you've outleveled the quests themselves, they obviously won't do a whole lot for you other than the rep.

[Mytiwar]

I'm curious Arus, weren't you quitting? What made you stay?

[arus2001]

I did quit. Figured I could still try to answer questions, though, since it seemed like more of the high people here are Defiant as opposed to Guardian.

[tonyg]

Still haven't found where to get the epic quest like the defiant one. When I was on my defiant it was really easy to find, but as a guardian at 50 I still didn't find it (not like I looked much anyway)

[Pere]

It's called The Care and Imprisonment of Changelings and it's given to you by cardinal Fiach, he is located at: 7463,3012. He is inside the south side of the main church (or w/e you wanna call it) if i remember well it's on the second floor.

[AidenCarby]

The fuck happened to 50 chat channel?

[Jakson]

Anybody have an xp table? I assumed it was like XIV, where halfway would be around 38-39 xp wise.

[Talragan]

Ok, so i just started playing. Rolled a mage and went stormcaller / pyro

What should I go as 3rd? and I mainly plan on doing pve, although some pvp every now and then.

This spec ok? or should I do something else.



Any1?

[Lucavi]

^ Not really. I'd say lock for opportunity, but that would mess up a 51 build for you. Maybe Archon?

[Neoscrilla]

Any1?

If you plan on doing alot of solo leveling, Elementalist is nice for the Greater Earth Elemental you get after you put 20 points into elementalist. It doesnt do as well in dungeons and not at all for pvp, but it works great for questing. The earth ele can easily tank 4-6 mobs as long as you buff it. As far as a 3rd soul for storm/pyro, I would agree with Lucavi and get lock, but you really need opportunity. I wasnt a big fan of stormcaller aside from icicle, but to each his own. I went ele/pyro on my solo build, and the 3rd soul I have 0 points in, in case I want to switch it. My dungeon build is lock/necro. Also, pyro is really strong when you get around 30 points in it.

[Aristio]

Is Pyromancer as really overpowered as they say they are? What is causing Pryomancer to be considered overpowered anyways? From what I see on the official forums is the mixture of ground of strength, red orb, and insta-cast long ranged abilities. If that's the case, then why doesn't Trion just make the red orb a 15% damage increase? The other two orbs aren't as overpowered as the red one and this would bring it down to level with the others. Concerning the Ground of Strength ability, it really doesn't have any sort of drawback to it. Whereas Ground of Power has the +10% damage taken. So to go ahead and balance out Ground of Strength, wouldn't it be beneficial to add a "negative" trait to Ground of Strength, like they have for Ground of Power? I was thinking along the lines of restricting casting range to 20M while under Ground of Strength.

[izembo]

red orb is ap/sp boost anyways, which isnt as big as people think it is

[Aristio]

100% AP/SP which for mages brings the average SP to about 1800. That's equates a far more dangerous output than what Physical DPS get, as the 1800 AP doesn't effect skills -as much- as Mages/Clerics.

[Pere]

While in the hax circle pyros are inmune to cc, at least they should let you kick them out of the hax circle or lower the inmunity, not to coment the 2k spells they throw at you.

Right now there isn't any drawback in casting the circle of hax they should either lower the benefits or put it on a long cd / short duration. Short history: Since the patch run like a chicken when you see a pyro inside that circle.

PD: The only thing that works is interrupt cast skills but yeah again... instant casts :/

[Zerocool]

Should have like a -20% damage caused reduction while in the circle. That seems pretty fair considering the benefits they get from it.

[Pyree]

Just grabbed the game, played in the last few beta events. Since I never uninstalled any of it, is there a way to get it to read the patches I downloaded during beta instead of having to watch it download and install those all over again?
It's available now, I've seen a couple around.

From what I've gathered, it's a really rare reward that you can get from killing the final boss of the zone-wide death invasion events. There is a Lv20 version and a Lv50 version, but I have only seen the Lv20 one in-game so far.

From a few days ago, but thought I'd reply again to say that I got the 60% mount last night from a major rift in Freemarch. It looks like it's just a random reward from anything death-related. I'd assume the 110% mount comes from the high level ones, but I still haven't seen anyone riding that one yet.

[Ohemgee]

You have to purchase the Epic mounts so far.

[Kuya]

How do you complete the quest: A bit of subterfuge in Scarlet Gorge? I'm at the spot, but nothing is happening even when i put on the diguise.

[Pyree]

You have to purchase the Epic mounts so far.

No, I was talking about the world event ghost horse mounts. >.>

[XalienLevi]

How do you complete the quest: A bit of subterfuge in Scarlet Gorge? I'm at the spot, but nothing is happening even when i put on the diguise.

I'm going to assume you are standing above the spot the you're supposed to be at. This happened to me the first time I attempted the quest as well. There is a cave entrance at ground level. With the disguise on you enter the cave and speak to Nathor Kull.

[Kuya]

Yea, no one was being specific when i asked and then went on about a cave, and then i remembered that i only saw one cave in the entire zone, and therefore bingo. It's just that the zone kind of throws off my perspective from ground level to top level. Many times i've passed an area while looking from above that looked new, but was actually an area that i've passed multiple times while on ground level.

[Jimothy]

Been debating changing around my Cleric tank soul. Currently 51 Justicar/13Sham/3druid. The 3 in Druid is essentially for the shield and the little endurance, and just enough in Shaman for the non GCD heal. However, Strike of the Maelstrom which requires 21 points in Shaman looks useful for keeping hate on big groups. The main thing I'm losing from the switch is Doctrine of Authority which doesn't seem really like it does much when I do use it. Also 8% armor but I think it worked out to a .6 damage reduction difference which doesn't seem all that bad. Is losing the doctrine worth picking up the strike?

[Aidin]

I've been running with 5 druid/17 shaman/44 justicar and really missing the doctrine of authority, I'm probably going to allocate 51/13/3 like you are. The problem I've been running into is threat on anything with geared rouges. I run T1's with my T2 geared group when our usual tank isn't online and the rouges keep pulling off of me halfway through most fights. I don't know if this helps your question at all, but its my experience so far tanking. My thought is the extra damage from Authority might help hold things better.

Random question for the thread: What build do other clerics prefer for tanking? Has anyone found a build that lets them tank T2(Even T1 with T2 geared DPS) effectively?

[tonyg]

Is there any way to track finished quests? Specifically the epic story ones for Guardians, since my guild is about to clear greenscale and I would really like to get the quest weapon from it.

[Mytiwar]

Is there any way to track finished quests? Specifically the epic story ones for Guardians, since my guild is about to clear greenscale and I would really like to get the quest weapon from it.

Pretty sure you can't.
Common sense though would have you check what quest you're on in the epic storyline and check up on http://telarapedia.com/wiki/Rift_Wiki

[Greedouw]

The World Quest is pretty bitchy; I've done 10-15 rifts with no weapon drops. I've done a few invasions and have also only gotten one drop =\

[Man0warr]

New changes are up on Alpha, no patchnotes yet. Big buffs to Marksman, Assassin, minor BD buff. Plus Appearance tab and a new icon that looks like Dungeon Finder but non functional as of now.

Changes Observed on Alpha 1.2 (http://www.riftjunkies.com/2011/04/21/changes-observed-on-alpha-for-patch-1-2/)

[Alderaan]

MM buff AND appearance tabs?

Everything i could possibly ask for.

[Cyn]

If that Serpent Strike change makes it to live my penis will become extremely erect.

[altwight]

What rift forums do you guys browse?

[AidenCarby]

RiftJunkies, got my parser from there too. It's pretty decent..ACT better though from what I hear.

[Alderaan]

Don't think i've ever been to the Riftjunkies forum.

[altwight]

what's act? can't google that.

[Alderaan]

http://advancedcombattracker.com/

[AidenCarby]

Any real live servers? There's like 50 servers with medium pop and 3 with high to full..looking to reroll for some cereal Raiding D:

[Omnipotent]

Briarcliff, raids and constant defiant -> gaurdian HQ invasions all day erry day

[Aristio]

People I warfront with from Briarcliff aren't that good. Only a few people I can't handle, (Mess, Skumbag, and his other team mates). This is the 30-39 bracket, but if I'm not going up against them, defiants roll the guardians so hard. Also, Legololz is a fucking tool. I had to put him on ignore the first warfront I was in with him.

[Senji]

Also, Legololz is a fucking tool.

http://images1.fanpop.com/images/photos/2300000/spiderman-villians-spider-man-2347130-300-282.gif

[Omnipotent]

People I warfront with from Briarcliff aren't that good. Only a few people I can't handle, (Mess, Skumbag, and his other team mates). This is the 30-39 bracket, but if I'm not going up against them, defiants roll the guardians so hard. Also, Legololz is a fucking tool. I had to put him on ignore the first warfront I was in with him.


QFT, I think I win maybe 10% of my BG matches, 25% Codex, I just do whitefall since I usually win 75%.

[Greedouw]

Seems like the Guardians are terrible at the Codex on Emberlord. We win Whitefall a decent amount of the time

[Shnaklaha]

actually here's an interesting question....has either side on ANY server taken down the city end bosses? or for that matter made it past halfway through their respective cities? We used to get a couple guardian raids here and there from out neighborhood super holy shit bad guardian guilds (they say they're a pvp only guild....run around in groups of 20 ganking lowbies and then calling them niggers and other such slander...fun guys right?), but they never make it past the front steps of Meridian...literally lol. I know sanctum is like a fort though.

[Mytiwar]

actually here's an interesting question....has either side on ANY server taken down the city end bosses? or for that matter made it past halfway through their respective cities? We used to get a couple guardian raids here and there from out neighborhood super holy shit bad guardian guilds (they say they're a pvp only guild....run around in groups of 20 ganking lowbies and then calling them niggers and other such slander...fun guys right?), but they never make it past the front steps of Meridian...literally lol. I know sanctum is like a fort though.

I'm Defiant and I tried to sneak in the Sanctum once for shits and giggles. Stealth doesn't work :( and I got killed so soon that even by soul walking I got ganked again by the same entrance guards. These bois mean business.
Any invasion of the kind going on on PVE servers? Never seen one on mine anyways.

[Jakson]

I don't know if this is what you're talking about but, from the patch notes:

SANCTUM
* Assassination attempts have become so frequent that they no longer stun Cyril. Cyril, Borrin, and Shyla now have boss-style immunities, including against interrupts.

Cyril has like 3m HP, and I haven't done any endgame content yet but that seems like it would be pretty ballsy, with the three of them there, any guards, and idk if players can fight, but on a PVP server it seems like it would be impossible if PVP was allowed in Sanctum if npcs are under attack or something.

[Shnaklaha]

yea idk about any attempts on sanctum, but on Reclaimer (which houses fires of heaven and Maxamillion, host of rift runkies and 2nd best guild in world so far respectivly) has seen a couple meridian attempts....but as you said, with all the players in the one main city + the raid style guards plus the 20% damage buff everything gets cause of the wardstone on the stairs....yea it's near impossible. maybe in a few raid tiers we'll see actual attempts.

[Jakson]

Is there a cap on how much rested xp you can store?

[Pyree]

You can get up to 1 full level of bonus exp from being rested. This will appear to last for 2 full levels, though, because half of your exp is the regular exp and half is the bonus.

[Jakson]

Well that's disappointing. Ty Pyree

[Man0warr]

Pretty standard amongst MMOs with rested bonus.

[Jakson]

Only played XI and rift :/

[Guyverarmor]

I just re-subbed to RIFT.. is there a general server most people are playing on?

[AidenCarby]

I just re-subbed to RIFT.. is there a general server most people are playing on?

Wolfsbane/Briarcliff(?) Faeblight is also another high pop one, but if you don't do queue's and are a Defiant we could always hook you up on my server, Alsbeth.

[Guyverarmor]

I'll hop on over Alsbeth then ^^

[Bombur]

Wolfsbane/Briarcliff(?) Faeblight is also another high pop one, but if you don't do queue's and are a Defiant we could always hook you up on my server, Alsbeth.

Wolfsbane and Briarcliff are maxed out atm. If you do decide to choose one of these servers you might be waiting in que for about 2 hrs during prime time. But be careful there are some servers that are dead, and you will be playing all by yourself.

[Jakson]

How long do runes last? Are the Glorified 4p50 ones you buy from quartermasters reusable?

I've read in some places they last an hour and some sites (http://rift.zam.com/wiki/Runes_%28Rift%29#Runes) that say they are permanent.

[Melena]

The item enhancment runes are permanent. Typically the ones that are not permanent are the ones like shield spikes (yet according to my combat logs, they show doing damage even after wearing off), weapon stones, etc.

[Crizto]

Yeah sometimes runes/enhancements are bugged. There is a bug that if you have a Baneful rune just sitting in your bag, it will proc on any attack whether it be melee or ranged. Happened to me once, but after I zoned it didn't. But things like Whetstones/Mightystones/Magestonething/Armor Enhancements will last 4 hours.

[tonyg]

Any Guardian raiding guild need a fully T2 geared warrior dps or tank when the server transfers hit? My server is dead and doesn't have any guild capable of raiding

[Ohemgee]

Aye. Anyone need a defiant fully geared t2 warrior dps?

D:

[AidenCarby]

I'll hop on over Alsbeth then ^^

PM Me your name if you went with Alsbeth :D

[Elesirdur]

So I thought I would bump this thread instead of starting a new one to ask some opinions.

I've been playing the free trial for a few days now and have been enjoying Rift quite a bit. WoW's just bored me lately (fully geared on my DK but can't spend enough time to get in and raid), and I always enjoy the first few weeks/months in a new MMO. However, I see a lot of threads on the official forums about how server populations are low and how pretty much all warrior callings are dead in terms of dps.

So, I'm looking for some input from current/past Rift players about their experiences and if it's really worth getting into for more casual play; levelling, questing, dungeons, but probably no 'raid' content potential for a player.

[tonyg]

Yea it is, people get burnt out when they try to do more than the casual 5man content, since its very hard to gather over 10 people on some servers. If you stick to rifting and enjoying the various content other than raiding you should have a good time for at least a month or two

[Lostprophet]

I would say yes. The only content I even log on for now is raid events but if I'm on a few hours early I still do enjoy rifting and running T2's. Casually, you won't get your gear for a few weeks and you should still have a drive to keep playing, until you get the last of your pieces. Made it too easy in the beginning to get your T2 plaque gear, people began to re roll after the first 2 months cause they couldn't/didn't want to raid or there was no one to, I know it was in my experience. Warrior still(as far until next update i dont read notes) has top tier DPS for instances.

I'd say just reroll on a high-pop server if you don't have many friends/sentimental value to your current server, I did it and it kept me logging in game.

[Elesirdur]

Cool, thanks for the input. Would be nice to play with some BG'ers if anyone's playing Defiant.

[arus2001]

If you can't score a good guild, you're pretty much SOL once you hit 50. That was basically my problem since my play times vary, nor am I exactly looking to replicate my days of FFXI where Rift looks like a work schedule with events damn near every night. I know I lobbed a complaint at Trion about their Reaver nerfs (my "main" then), but I guess that was just a pre-cursor to the eventual ass rape Warrior souls seemingly got in later patches. On a more general note, and related to my initial point, the rep grind could've filled in for solo content at 50 if it wasn't so artificially bloated in time sink on top of the actual rewards not being so shitty. Those who managed to grind Icewatch before nerfs got lucky, as they more or less tripled the time needed.

Leveling had some rough spots here and there when it came to jumping areas, but overall, that process wasn't too bad. Like with the rep grind, planar rewards could use some tweaks so maybe you could actually buy and equip rift gear before you've totally outleveled it.

[Crizto]

So I thought I would bump this thread instead of starting a new one to ask some opinions.

I've been playing the free trial for a few days now and have been enjoying Rift quite a bit. WoW's just bored me lately (fully geared on my DK but can't spend enough time to get in and raid), and I always enjoy the first few weeks/months in a new MMO. However, I see a lot of threads on the official forums about how server populations are low and how pretty much all warrior callings are dead in terms of dps.

So, I'm looking for some input from current/past Rift players about their experiences and if it's really worth getting into for more casual play; levelling, questing, dungeons, but probably no 'raid' content potential for a player.

Well for one thing, take the official forums with a grain of salt. Like every other official forum, it is full of people who Q_Q about anything and everything. What's the most important is if you enjoy playing the game. I'm technically on one of the lowest populated server (from some source that tries to track it), and I never notice it.

Well in a sense I do notice that my server is behind a bit because only my guild has completed all content on the Guardian side, but what's amazing is that there are now 5 or 6 other Guardian guilds which are just now starting to tackle the first raid area. This is all very recent, and I know you're not looking for raid content... but it's sort of a way to show that the game, even on a low population server is still very active.

Apart from raiding, this game is very casual friendly in my opinion. You'll obviously be getting gear at a slower pace, but it is still very easy to progress your character with only logging in for a couple hours or so. I absolutely loved leveling my first character to 50 through questing and running the appropriate dungeon once. Coming from FFXI it was a nice change of pace.

If you only intend to play for a few hours here and there, then there will always be content for you to enjoy. Sometimes when I'm bored I will go close some Rifts or do a PvP match, or go do some achievements. I may consider even slowly leveling another character or something hah.

[Alderaan]

My favorite part is not being required to log in every day like in XI. Technically we raid 4 nights a week but in reality we could do it all in one, which leaves the rest of the week open to whatever. This of course will change once HK is released, but for now, it's really nice.

[Cyndre]

I must agree with the others...when it comes to forums people exist to complain. Those that are quite happy with what they are doing will often not make their way to the forums; or if they do...they don't deal with the childish posts.

I know we have a heck of a lot of fun in our guild and we have quite a few casuals and we raid as well. We aren't as far as most but hey....we have a lot of fun while we do it LOL

[Elesirdur]

Well I haven't bought the game yet, so anyone on here who wants to invite me and get the "Ascend-a-Friend" reward(s) let me know. I've still got a few days left on my free trial.

[Cyndre]

Well I haven't bought the game yet, so anyone on here who wants to invite me and get the "Ascend-a-Friend" reward(s) let me know. I've still got a few days left on my free trial.

I havne't gotten enough posts under my belt here to post the full url...I'll try part of it. I can ascend you and help you out with bags and a starter mount if you don't buy the higher version of the game (I do recommend doing that for the larger inventory bag and mount on any character you make).

If you were wanting a guild invite as well, you would have to app (my recruitment post is down a few posts). But unless your application is horrible, I can't see any reason why you wouldn't get in :)

*edit* yeah no can post...maybe I'll try it in my signature, if that doesn't work I try messaging you. =p

[Cyndre]

There we go...it's in my sig. And yeah, if you are looking to be either casual or get into raiding at some point you will be welcome. We are really strong at helping guildies out with getting gear at 50. Thank god guild banks are coming 0.0

Also, howdy from New Brusnwick, Canada /waves

[Elesirdur]

Cool, thanks for the link Cyndre. I'll buy the deluxe edition either today or tomorrow and use your referral code. I'm guessing that the process is just to 1) buy the game, 2) create/update account for game subscription, and 3) use the ascend a friend link to further update my account?

[Cyndre]

I'm honestly not sure. I've only known people to do the refer a friend first and then buy the game. That would mean you would have to do a new character.

I'll open a ticket and ask a GM. I'll respond when I hear:)

[Cyndre]

Hello Lisa! Thank you for contacting us regarding RIFT. There are a couple of things your friend can do. First, he can setup a new account and follow the Ascend-a-friend link that you send him. Secondly, after he purchases the game, he can send in the information of the friend that ascended him (or he ascended) and we can link the accounts that way. If you have any additional questions or concerns, please don't hesitate to let us know. Thank you for your continued support of Trion Worlds and for playing RIFT. Your reference number for this ticket is 110616-001963. Sincerely, Jason A. Technical & Account Support Trion Worlds Inc.

There we go so you can do the game and then do the refer :)

[Elesirdur]

Nice, thanks Lisa :)

[Cyndre]

/tips hat

pleasure to serve :nekohi:

[nekura]

If you're planning on buying the game, this weekend is the time to do so since it's on sale for $9.99, direct from Trion. You could then upgrade to the deluxe edition for another $10.

[Cyndre]

Nice, thanks Lisa :)

What name will you be under so I can keep an eye out for you :)

[Elesirdur]

I rolled a Defiant on Greythorn, Greybriar something like that. I saw your guild was Guardian and, even though it may seem petty, I just really didn't like the Guardian characters I started. Maybe once I get a bit more experienced with the game I'll roll one on your server, or if I want to get into some pvp.

[Cyndre]

Ahh no worries :)

Perhaps there is someone here that can do a refer a friend for the server you went on.

[Guyverarmor]

I am currently rolling a tank. He's PLD/Reav/WarL ... I am putting a lot of points into PLD as my main soul and having fun with it. I know people say play what you have fun with, but people telling me that Raver is a better tank than Paladin.. this true? He is only 13 at the moment. Any tips or builds I can look at. Have found a couple, but want to see if any BG rifters have any advice? Also, what stats should I focus on" STR>Endurance> Dex > Hit?

Thanks for any advice !

[Alderaan]

I am currently rolling a tank. He's PLD/Reav/WarL ... I am putting a lot of points into PLD as my main soul and having fun with it. I know people say play what you have fun with, but people telling me that Raver is a better tank than Paladin.. this true? He is only 13 at the moment. Any tips or builds I can look at. Have found a couple, but want to see if any BG rifters have any advice? Also, what stats should I focus on" STR>Endurance> Dex > Hit?

Thanks for any advice !

Not sure how or even if 1.3 changes anything but here you go.
http://ciderhelm.com/?p=597

[Meph]

I am currently rolling a tank. He's PLD/Reav/WarL ... I am putting a lot of points into PLD as my main soul and having fun with it. I know people say play what you have fun with, but people telling me that Raver is a better tank than Paladin.. this true? He is only 13 at the moment. Any tips or builds I can look at. Have found a couple, but want to see if any BG rifters have any advice? Also, what stats should I focus on" STR>Endurance> Dex > Hit?

Thanks for any advice !

it might be easier to hold aggro as a main reaver prior to 40, but I would go with either pld or vk.
when it comes to stat-priority: endurance/toughness(until expert cap) > block > str > hit > parry/dodge > dex

[Jakson]

No update button and my memory is a little fuzzy, but I thought it would allow you to update and then gray out the play button after until the shards went back up, no?

Edit: Derp. Checked shard status on riftgame. Says under maintenance, but still thought it would allow update to d/l.

[AidenCarby]

Had the same Issue @ Jackson, thanks for posting.

[Melena]

There was a bug with the patch data they found as they took the shards down, so it's not available to download the patch yet.

[Alderaan]

Patch is available now but servers are still down. No guild banks yet whic hi believe was the bug. Sounds like a duping issue commonly seen with this feature.

[Melena]

Nah, they found the bug on the PTS, issue according to them was some bad/corrupted patch data so they had to recompile the patch.

[Lostprophet]

Does anyone have/can link the picture of broken crit % on cleric that was taken on PTS for 1.3? Cleric had like 115%+ crit

Thought it was posted here but cannot find it, wondering if anyone else has it.

[Alderaan]

Does anyone have/can link the picture of broken crit % on cleric that was taken on PTS for 1.3? Cleric had like 115%+ crit

Thought it was posted here but cannot find it, wondering if anyone else has it.

Was in the Hammerknell thread

http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/3576/leetdps.jpg

[Jakson]

Crafting...I'm feeling there isn't much reward for leveling skills. I have everything but Apothecary leveled across a few characters and was working on plaques and fame for recipes but it just seems so pointless when I can't find the best of any slot for any calling among things I can craft. I'm not so much in it for the money, I just want that old FFXI feeling of signing a Awesome Item +1, but no craftable item is really awesome, and none of the ingredients (that I've seen so far) are that difficult to obtain. Any thoughts?

[Neoscrilla]

All I can suggest is to keep stacking them plaques and hope for a HQ system to be implemented in the future. I did dailies every single day since I got 50, have bought every recipe for Rune and Outfitter, and have thousands of marks and like 15-20 plaques for each. After I got everything, I continued to do the dailies until I simply ran out of mats. Now I dont even bother because I dont see a point and I dont have time to farm fucking soulhide and shit. Being able to socket gear with a 300 skill or something might be nice, but crafting is held in such low regard in my guild that nobody even does the crafting rifts anymore aside from me and a few friends. One can only hope for HQ ability in the future, but I sure would like some new recipes soon. It seems that runecrafter and apothecary are the only ones that get consistent work. Nobody ever asks me for outfitter shit, lol.

[Melena]

Right now crafting is mainly for gearing alts so you can skip T1's and go straight to T2's. Runecrafting makes retarded amounts of money if that's what you want, but that's it besides the obvious gathering professions. Apothecary may get some love as more guilds start raiding, but even then, we have 1 in our guild who volunteered to be our flask/potion bitch.

[arus2001]

Yeah, the fact crafting is often behind rewards from quests or dungeons was one of those ;_; things I found while playing. I'd originally taken up weaponsmithing for my warrior, figuring since things were new, economy wasn't set, and so on, I'd be able to make myself appropriate weapons as I leveled and such, but that never really happened since I seemed to stay slightly ahead of the curve based on resource locations and the general levels of the areas they were in.

[Melena]

Actually weaponsmithing is a good one to have. Salvage weapons, make whetstones, ???, profit.

[arus2001]

I could never sell those on the AH for a profit, but then again, maybe Keenblade just sucked.

[Alderaan]

I'd kill for someone to put up whetstones on Keenblade. They're never up when i need them.

[arus2001]

I'm Guardian, so couldn't indulge you. :P

Though, when I unsubbed, materials were kinda stupid in price. Not sure if it's scaled down any, but something like 80g for a carmintium ore or whatever was way too much for my lucking.

[Metta]

Is there any site out there for Rift a bit like BG? I've been looking at Rift junkies but it doesn't really seem to be that active.

[AidenCarby]

Official Rift Forums has a ton of traffic, lots of good material to read in there too.

[sruon]

What are popular Rogue builds? Just started, Rogue 22 but loving the game.

[Alderaan]

For soloing i'd say Ranger with anything else and have your pet tank. Or Bladedancer with at least 13 points if Riftstalker for Rift Scavenger, which pretty much heals you to full after every mob depending on how many combo points you leave on mobs.

For dungeons almost every build is built around using Deadly Strike from BD which gives you the Deadly Dance buff which increases your next 3 combo point abilities by 105% with 5 points.

[Raen Ryong]

Get Bard when you have a spare Role. Not only will it greatly enhance your versatility, but it's a very fun and amazing soul. I don't know if I'd solo exp on it, but it's certainly worth having around for dungeons/pvp/etc.

[Alderaan]

Get Bard when you have a spare Role. Not only will it greatly enhance your versatility, but it's a very fun and amazing soul. I don't know if I'd solo exp on it, but it's certainly worth having around for dungeons/pvp/etc.

Yeah, i pretty much do all my non-combat stuff on bard simply for the movement speed. On second thought, i usually switch to bard so i can solo phase 5 elites of Rifts also. Plus you get a rez.

[arus2001]

Just to be sure I'm not getting phished or got hacked, did Trion change something about their account management that sent out some emails citing deactivation? Said my account was deactivated on the 21st, but I haven't played since the end of March, so a bit concerned that maybe I got jacked even though it doesn't seem like they used my CC if so.

[Meph]

no

rule of thumb; emails are always phishing ;)

[arus2001]

Well, hovering over the links shows parts of the official site I could get to manually, so I dunno. Just seems weird.

[Crizto]

I recall a thread on the official forums about something similar.
http://forums.riftgame.com/showthread.php?123376-Beware-of-Fake-Trion-Sites!&p=2801868&viewfull=1#post2801868

A few posts up, there is someone who put a picture of the email he got.

[Viq]

I haven't played since the first month after launch, but there's a free trial going on so I might as well give it another go. I played a rogue before, mainly Bard, and found it dreadfully boring (and I was a career FFXI brd so...). Any suggestions for fun classes to try out this time?

[Alderaan]

Anything cleric. It's all you need in this game.

[Raen Ryong]

Bard's only boring if people don't need healing. Properly geared, Bard can be a decent offhealer in terms of HPS. Also fun in pvp!

[Melena]

Bout a month ago (dunno if it got nerfed in 1.4) one of our bards got bored and made a battle bard spec for T2's. Was something retarded like 700dmg self buffed on a dummy. Not a raid spec in the least but he had fun making terribad dps rage that they got beat by a bard.

[Meko]

So eh, what server is active? I'm on Millrush and I've literally seen....nobody. Nobody in my level range chat that is responding and nobody in towns. Maybe everybody is high level but nobody is around. Where is everybody!? :(

[Alderaan]

So eh, what server is active? I'm on Millrush and I've literally seen....nobody. Nobody in my level range chat that is responding and nobody in towns. Maybe everybody is high level but nobody is around. Where is everybody!? :(

This is one of the issues i have with the game and something that i'm not used to since i've never played a raiding progression mmo before. Seems that the majority of people only log on for raid nights and that's it. I suppose it's just not this game but this model. We need more non raiding content to keep people logged in that isn't dailies.

[Raen Ryong]

Freeholme always has loads of people at every level range from what I have seen. People just aren't very social on the whole.

[Meko]

Another question. What's a good DPS build for a Warrior? I'm going to be doing some PvP too along the way too.

Also: What's a good tank spec? I tanked my first instance yesterday @ level 18 as paladin and it seemed pretty straightforward. (Keep in mind I'm only level 20) :)

[Senji]

Pvp servers have lots going on, but pve servers have the problem like Alderaan said.

On pve you can raid or pick flowers. Throwing your pvp armor on, walking into the opposite factions aoe's in raid rift/invasion, then turning your flag on will lead to some fun though.

http://www.riftstatus.net/ anything below a 1.9 rating will most likely be dead.

I'm on Briar.

[Alderaan]

Wow, 1.57 for Keenblade eh. We did have the top Guadian guild leave so i guess it makes sense.

I have brought up a possible server transfer to our leaders. I love having tons of people on every day to do stuff with.

[Raen Ryong]

Freeholme is only a 1.7 and very active so I wouldn't say 1.9 or below is deserted.


Another question. What's a good DPS build for a Warrior? I'm going to be doing some PvP too along the way too.

Also: What's a good tank spec? I tanked my first instance yesterday @ level 18 as paladin and it seemed pretty straightforward. (Keep in mind I'm only level 20)

I retired my warrior so take this with a grain of salt, but

Champion is good for DPS, Paragon and Riftblade (or PvP soul) being your 2nd and 3rd respectively. Beastmaster is good for levelling and not very widely used in PvE or PvP (not to say it's bad... game is young and many things aren't explored). Riftblade main with Sword/Shield sub Paladin for defense and 1h Weapon Specialisation can work nicely.

For tanking, some combination of Paladin/Warlord/Reaver/VoidKnight. Warlord and Reaver have great defensive traits and AoE threat. Paladin and Voidknight is basically Physical vs Magical reduction.

[Pyree]

Yeah, Byriel is active and it is at 1.8...

[Meph]

if you want to read up on warrior tanking, just check ciderhelm's site now that he went over to rift
http://ciderhelm.com

if its too much information at once (which it kinda is) Ill try my best to give pointers on which souls to use etc.

[Meko]

Well for being level 20, it's not that big of a deal. Paladin seems easiest with Warlord/Reaver as 'subs'. So far, it's worked out pretty well. It gets hairy sometimes when somebody pulls mobs from different packs by mistake etc but so far, the Paladin (for me anyway) seems to work fine especially at level 20.

[Viq]

Is there a BG type site for Rift? I am trying to find a place with a decent amount of info for me to read over about souls and such, and I hesitate to trust stuff on official forums.

[nekura]

Not really. Honestly, there's a lot of good information on the official boards, it's just a matter of sorting through the worthless posts to get to it.

[Melena]

Yea, official boards have a lot of theory crafters.

[Crizto]

Does Order of the Eye / Order of the Unseen (?) rep skip over Glorified?? Most of the other PvP rep factions go straight to cap Revered once you finish Honored.

[Senji]

Glorified is after revered. The present cap is revered anyways.

[shepardG]

litterly downloading and installing as we speak, what's the top 5 things I should do to right off the bat to make this game a repeatable enjoyment? (I've never played WOW, not once, only played FFXI relgiously, and FFXIV for a week before I couldn't deal with it anymore.)

also anyone that plays around 7-11pm EST let me know what "shard" your on if you wanna be my obi wan.

[Alderaan]

Enjoy your first leveling experience because there's really no replay value. Level a cleric or warrior for maximum enjoyment.

[shepardG]

there's no replay value in the leveling of job classes?

[Crizto]

It depends if you like the class you're leveling. I enjoyed leveling my Warrior alt, despite the fact that I had already done the quests and such. If you like the class mechanics you'll most likely enjoy the leveling process. It's mostly a solo experience

[Alderaan]

I tried leveling a second class and just couldn't bring myself to do it. Same linear path a second time got to me. I'm sure if i had a static group running dungeons it would have been more doable.

[Raen Ryong]

Mage is also extremely good if you're a good one.

[Viq]

Leveling in this game was retard easy. I got a Cleric to 38, didn't like it and rerolled Mage. It hit 50 yesterday, and my account is all of 2.5 weeks old. Now that I'm able to run experts, it leads to my question. I enjoy Archon quite a bit, and I understand for raiding it's basically a 51point spec. For experts will I be better off going 51Archon, or is it better to do something like 34Archon/32Chloro?

[shepardG]

well i just made it back through the time portal bullshit, i chose sabateour/ranger/marksman.... so i imagine i'll be shooting ixion or some shit.

I have no idea what to chose on the soultree though i'm just focusing on crit and/or DEX /shrug....

any suggestions?

[Raen Ryong]

Could just tell you, but it should become reasonably apparent as you play whether your spec is any good, and what you should be choosing. It's cheap to change setup at any time.

What I will say is that the best setup is rarely to balance the 3 souls in your role in terms of points invested.

EDIT: As a Rogue, DEX is your best offensive stat point-for-point. 1DEX = 1crit and 0.5 attack power. Then STR is just 0.5 attack power. Crit vs Attack Power is difficult.

[Crizto]

Leveling in this game was retard easy. I got a Cleric to 38, didn't like it and rerolled Mage. It hit 50 yesterday, and my account is all of 2.5 weeks old. Now that I'm able to run experts, it leads to my question. I enjoy Archon quite a bit, and I understand for raiding it's basically a 51point spec. For experts will I be better off going 51Archon, or is it better to do something like 34Archon/32Chloro?

34/32 for experts

[Syntex]

You can spec how you want but I prefer this build.

@25 http://rift.zam.com/en/stc.html?t=0MVpM.VbdA0M0o.VG0h

Eventually you do a full bladedancer/assassin/riftstalker build.

This is what mine looked like at 50.

http://rift.zam.com/en/stc.html?t=0MVpM.VbdAzs0RMbz.VI0h.0VMft0b0z

Fill in assassin last.

[Meko]

Question: I've been leveling my Rogue (now 40) and I can use bard for leveling purely for buffs/heals/survivability. With that being said, I'm also leveling my warrior which is almost 29 yet I find myself having less option for survivability. There are no 'bandages' in this game and all I've seen is quick drinking pots or healing pots (which seem to have a super long cooldown). What else can I do for more survivability? I'm just tired of killing 3-4 mobs then having to drink etc.

[Alderaan]

I used bard for leveling until i discovered the beauty of bladedancer and 13 points into riftstalker for Rift Scavenger, which heals you after every mob based on combo points left. For warrior, i have no idea.

[Raen Ryong]

Warrior with Riftblade and the blade spell which means you recover HP when you critical isn't too bad.

[shepardG]

soooo apparently i just came through my first rift (lvl8 rouge, guardian) and there's a little platform you appear on and every time i step off into the grass....i fall through reality.... it's um.... pretty shitty.... anyone have any issues with this?


http://youtu.be/X502XZ_3MAA

[Syntex]

soooo apparently i just came through my first rift (lvl8 rouge, guardian) and there's a little platform you appear on and every time i step off into the grass....i fall through reality.... it's um.... pretty shitty.... anyone have any issues with this?


http://youtu.be/X502XZ_3MAA

Looks like you're spawning on one of the layers stacked on that alter because your feet look sunk in a bit and walking forward you clip the ground by that inch or so and puts the base of your characters hitbox below the constructed ground allowing you to fall.

A simple jump then walk forward or jump forward should fix the problem and shouldn't happen again.

[shepardG]

Looks like you're spawning on one of the layers stacked on that alter because your feet look sunk in a bit and walking forward you clip the ground by that inch or so and puts the base of your characters hitbox below the constructed ground allowing you to fall.

A simple jump then walk forward or jump forward should fix the problem and shouldn't happen again.

...... dot dot dot

I am going to punch you in the face when i find you ^^
HOWEVER, It appears that I had a couple bad sectors or orphaned files or some shit on my new SSD so's i'm in the process of fixing that, and hopefully the recovery tool will work.
EDIT:
It did, just scheduled chkdsk to run on startup and scan the C: drive. Fixed a bunch of unknown files or some crap. updated, ran recovery (total time was like 10mins) and game works fine again.

[Meko]

I lol'd at that video far too much. Sorry...it was cracking me up. Reminds me of AoC launch.

[Melena]

soooo apparently i just came through my first rift (lvl8 rouge, guardian) and there's a little platform you appear on and every time i step off into the grass....i fall through reality.... it's um.... pretty shitty.... anyone have any issues with this?


http://youtu.be/X502XZ_3MAA

You rolled a dwarf. The world hates dwarves so it kept swallowing you up ;)

[shepardG]

muahahah!! i know right! i'll be a dwarf sabatouer with an ax and a razorback boar.... shit is on.

[Raen Ryong]

I have never seen that happen O_O although Battlefield Intimidation in Whitefall Steppes used to like making me fall through the world...

[Alderaan]

I dunno what it is about dwarves, but when i see one in a warfront, i make a b-line to them.

[Melena]

I dunno what it is about dwarves, but when i see one in a warfront, i make a b-line to them.

We call our one dwarf in our guild Token. He's also canadian. He's double fucked lol

[Meko]

So I'm almost 44 on my rogue but from what I've read, Bard is kind of weak for PvE and PvP still feels too overwhelming for me as a rogue (maybe I'm not doing it right). I was thinking of leveling my mage next...it's 16...but it seems fun? My warrior is almost 30 as well but I don't really want to tank and I'd like to have something that is support/off-heals if possible. Can Chloro be that?

[Melena]

You always want 1 bard in your raid, maybe 2 if it's not a huge dps fight. Now that my rogue is 48, i pretty much bard the 5 man's since the extra healing + debuff's help the group go faster then I would in my dps spec. If the group is good, riff/cadence then fury bomb for 15 seconds is a lot of fun on bosses.

[Alderaan]

Chloro isn't really support/off heals. They're probably the best main healers right now.

Archon is your best bet but they're never used except in raids.. In reality, bards should have all the buffs and debuffs that archons have. It's one of many issues i currently have with bard.

[Meko]

Yea, I love my bard but it seems...I don't know, pointless? I might stick with it as I want to see the 50s for a bit before diving into another class. Also, what's a good DPS spec for pure PvE/DPS and for PvP? For leveling, I level as bard for survivability. I'm mainly looking for something in PvP as I feel pretty powerless as it currently stands.

[Alderaan]

For pve, this is the best single target and aoe spec.
http://www.riftjunkies.com/2011/08/12/rogue-dps-guide-the-sabdancer/

For pvp, you're only real option is bard or marksman until 1.5 drops and makes rogues not suck in pvp.

[Meko]

Thanks for the info. How far is 1.5 out? It's on the test servers already, right?

[Alderaan]

Yes it's on the PTS and is scheduled to drop at the end of this month. It's a shit ton of new features and content.

[Raen Ryong]

Assassin is beautiful too but you can't do it with mediocre gear, and I wouldn't attempt it before Prestige Rank 4 (for 51sin/15inf).

Also bear in mind that from that guide

(a) 5 Shrapnel Charges – Deadly Strike.
(b) Puncture – Detonate.
(c) 5 Shrapnel Charges – Detonate.

is wrong;

you should put a Shrapnel Charge on before the Detonate, or else Deadly Dance is not being applied to the first Shrapnel explosion.

[arus2001]

Is Phase 2 for the event on a timer, or is there something I need to do still with Phase 1? Did all the quests I could find in Sanctum, but it's telling me to do quests I find in Sanctum. :/

[Alderaan]

Timer.

[Melena]

Always a timer. Typically a week between phases.

[Guyverarmor]

From what I am reading, Reaver/Paladin/Warlord is a good leveling spec till endgame, then I should switch to 51pt VK correct? or is Reav/PLD/War still viable?

[AidenCarby]

26vk 20pally 20 warlord has awesome threat, i tank with it, pretty much taunt, 1point spotters order then cleave until 3 ap spotters/call to entrench or w/e

[Diamicles]

Just started playing but really liking the versatility of rogue. Using 2 roles right now with a tank build (bard/riftstalker/bladedancer) and a dps build (bard/nightblade/bladedancer) and will probably have a support build (bard/ranger/marksman maybe? and deep in to the bard tree) The tank build I have so far really feels like dancer in ffxi, lots of evasion and some ability to heal yourself and hold threat.

So the actual question: What would be a better dps option than what I'm using now? It doesn't seem that great so far as I tend to do better soloing in my tank spec but I really like the nightblade tree and would like to build around that.

[Raen Ryong]

Nightblade/Riftstalker has a hell of a lot of durability with above average DPS (not amazing DPS, but above average). Marksman is a pretty solid choice for overall DPS, either as 44MM/whatever (often RS or Sin) or 51MM/14Ranger/1Riftstalker or 51Marksman/15Ranger. I hear a lot of people having success with builds using Assassin/Riftstalker/Bladedancer(Deadly Dance) too, and they're pretty fun to use since you teleport all over the place!

I could keep going but basically Rogue has a ton of viable specs right now~

As for Riftstalker, when you need the HP I recommend using RS/Ranger/Bard and otherwise RS/Ranger/Bladedancer. You use the former for pure effective HP and the latter for when you don't need the HP differential and prefer pure mitigation. RS/Bard/Bladedancer is kind of inbetween and not as good as the specialised ones in my opinion since you'll want one or the other. I also hear people liking 49RS/17BD for Turn the Tide, but I'm not such a huge fan.

[arus2001]

Decent damage build for a Warrior with average/crap gear? Been 51 Reaver/rest in Paladin for general PvEing, but kills are slow and watching other people murder shit while chasing rifts kind of has my e-peen envy going. Not sure if shifting to DDing would be more productive for me or not.

[AidenCarby]

38 paragon/22champ/6rift is good for pve, just maul shit and you can always pop a melange after killing a few mobs. A 38/26/2 variant is also good, 51rb/15para(or champ) 0 vk isnt bad either.

[Melena]

The cookie cutter BM/Champ/RB spec is pretty good as well. Not as high of DPS but more survivability due to the 12% health bonus for having your pet out.

[Diamicles]

Nightblade/Riftstalker has a hell of a lot of durability with above average DPS (not amazing DPS, but above average). Marksman is a pretty solid choice for overall DPS, either as 44MM/whatever (often RS or Sin) or 51MM/14Ranger/1Riftstalker or 51Marksman/15Ranger. I hear a lot of people having success with builds using Assassin/Riftstalker/Bladedancer(Deadly Dance) too, and they're pretty fun to use since you teleport all over the place!

I could keep going but basically Rogue has a ton of viable specs right now~

As for Riftstalker, when you need the HP I recommend using RS/Ranger/Bard and otherwise RS/Ranger/Bladedancer. You use the former for pure effective HP and the latter for when you don't need the HP differential and prefer pure mitigation. RS/Bard/Bladedancer is kind of inbetween and not as good as the specialised ones in my opinion since you'll want one or the other. I also hear people liking 49RS/17BD for Turn the Tide, but I'm not such a huge fan.

good info, much appreciated. After a little more research I'm leaning toward tanking as RiftStalker/BladeDancer/Ranger for the boosted mitigation, and dps as BladeDancer/NightBlade/RiftStalker for now. There are just soooo many possibilities, I love it :)

[nekura]

How about those 1.6 combat changes? :o

http://forums.riftgame.com/official-rift-news/dev-tracker/270494-elrar-pts-event-today-10-19-4-00pm-pdt-ember-isle-onslaught-zone-events.html

[Alderaan]

Bard still needs a lot of work. Battle rez, cleanse, increased motif duration, and so on. Wish it was more like XI bard but i guess that's not possible without a haste stat.

[Melena]

Cleanse I can see. Brez i'm not sure if they should have one, and the motif duration would change the class too much. If motif's lasted longer, you'd start seeing dps bards which is what they really wern't supposed to be.

[Alderaan]

Increasing motif duration opens up bard to something other than buffbot. Spending 20% of your time refreshing those doesn't leave a lot for us to contribute.

[Melena]

Hey your essential for it and like archons your getting a spotters order buff ;)

[arus2001]

Has any testing been done to see if Spell Power and such affects Reaver abilities? Been sticking mainly to STR/DEX/END/Block with what I have, but dunno if I could maybe up kill speed any with other options.

[Melena]

It "may" but you'd lose a lot more by sacraficing dex/str for a marginal increase to your dots. If your tanking as reaver, just toss some razor spikes on your shield and stack as much str and dex as you can without affecting survieability

[Meph]

up kill speed? you mean for soloing? I went with pld/riftblade/paragon (mixed tank/dps gear) a long time ago and will never go back.
otherwise reaver-dots will get buffed abit in 1.6 so no real reason to try and dabble with spellpower atm ;)

[Guyverarmor]

My Tank is a Reaver at the moment, level 32. I started up a Riftstalker as the dodge/parry tank. Which one should I stay with? Having fun with both, but honestly want to play for utility :)

[nekura]

This doesn't answer your question, but Warrior tanking in general is getting a huge overhaul in 1.6, so don't get married to a single spec!

[Guyverarmor]

Word. The patch notes for 1.6 out?

[Guyverarmor]

Will stay with Reaver for now then until 1.6 comes out. I was reading the posts above about SP contributing to Reaver DoTs and wondered the same, but have never tried it.

[Raen Ryong]

There are provisional notes in the PTS section of the official forums, but nothing concrete yet.

[Diamicles]

From another thread:


http://forums.riftgame.com/rift-general-discussions/classes-telara/rogue-discussion/264590-zyzyxs-1-5-rogue-pve-dps-bible.html#post3229945

That one has a bunch that should work. The higher melee DPS builds all tend towards using Blinks, but there are some that don't and do pretty close.

are there any solid builds using bladedancer and nightblade souls? Right now I'm running with BD/NB/SIN and it seems to do pretty well...but I know these things can change quickly with progression to higher levels and better gear. I really like the playstyle of the BD and NB souls so I'd like to stick with those (or at least one as a primary) if it's feasible.

[Raen Ryong]

I'm going to assume you mean deep Bladedancer and/or Nightblade in this answer;

Bladedancer defensively only works well in PvE (typically solo) content. I'm going to assume you mean an offensive build revolving around Bladedancer and Nightblade. Bladedancer damage involves abusing Deadly Dance along with Keen Strike/Quick Strike/Precision Strike. Nightblade damage involves output through stacking Fiery Spikes (normally with Lingering Flame) and Blazing Strike/Dusk to Dawn/Annihilate(from RS)/Primal Strike, at least from a PvE perspective. This means these souls are not wholly compatible (feel free to prove me wrong here) since there's a constant conflict of interest on what abilities to use, and depending on what you do you could be squandering the entire purpose of either tree (ie: Nightblade has lots of Blazing Strike amplifying traits and such, but Bladedancer wants to Deadly Strike... one or the other isn't going to be used, which significantly weakens the point of using one of the trees).

However, low point Nightblade is a decent DPS boost (whether it's better than BD/Sin/Rift is another story...).

Basically, I don't think they synergise that well if you go deep with both. They both work very well with Riftstalker and/or Assassin individually though.

I'm speaking purely from an offensive perspective here by the way.

[Diamicles]

Yep, I was referring to dps builds. I could sort of see how they might not interact well, but it is good to hear that they won't from someone who has more knowledge of how the trees work when lots of points are dumped into them. I'll keep experimenting with the different trees till I find something I like. Nightblade appeals to me more as a dps spec, and RS/BD as a defensive spec.

I haven't even tried out a bard support build. I'd love to see how different the interactions are compared to ffxi since bard was my primary job there.

[Alderaan]

Bard is pretty disappointing compared to XI's bard, but that's mostly due to no haste stat. It's damage output and survivability is better but it's actual support capabilities, at least to me, are lacking. The ability to have 3 fanfares up come 1.6 is a step in the right direction and so is having a 1 min spotters.

[Melena]

so 5% more damage, 5% reduced incoming damage, and a steady but small healing stream raid wide + the 5 point debuff finishers are lacking? As well as Ferver/Speedy Feet depending on the fight? I honestly think your over analyzing what the class is designed to do. Yes the 3 fanfares in 1.6 will be nice (no more split buffing) but honestly I love playing around with my rogue as a bard.

[arus2001]

Hmm, a buffed reaver makes me moist. Been slowly improving my gear while getting a feel for the instances I never did while leveling. Still dread random throwing me at Konstantin again, though. x.x

[Meph]

basically what they are doing with warrior tanks in 1.6 is reward going deep into specs instead of spreading it out like now. also it will pretty much remove the need to sub warlord in raids since calls doesnt give that much aggro anymore, and rogues get spotters order.

@Guyverarmor
its fine sticking with reaver. I would go with a spec like this (since you were lv32): http://rift.zam.com/en/stc.html?t=0chAE.g0Rz.Vuqkh00z.xV
if you feel abit squishy, use http://rift.zam.com/en/stc.html?t=0chAE.E0o.Vuqkh00z.xV instead (basically, you dont need Agressive Guardian since the aoe-threat from warlord is larger, and they dont stack)

[Melena]

Actually Meph, at least in HK there is only one spec. the 51vk spec due to the huge mitigation. They want to make the other deep tree's as viable, cause unfortunately they were lacking. Also raid calls will still generate agro, they are just taking spotters and not making it a call anymore since it was an aoe crutch. The other calls in Warlord will still generate the same threat through battlefield awareness.

[Meph]

Im doing HK as PLD/VK or reaver hybrid :/

edit: well, since the other calls need you to put in more points then just 6-10, I dont think they will see much usage (that and the fact that bardbuffs give the same, the +bonus for the warrior itself is neglectable imo)

[Guyverarmor]

I have two specs set up. One leveling, and working on the full 51 pt VK. I do hope they make 51 pt PLD and RV viable... love both specs to be honest and Reaver has not steared me
wrong so far in leveling.. love the self-healing abilities. Plague Bringer + Soul sickness = awesome to me, and helps out the healer slightly.

[arus2001]

I miss the old Grisly Works that restored a percentage of your HP for every mob killed. Current's kinda lame now. I know I'm still lolT1, but only troubles I've had keeping a mob's attention when it wasn't AI programmed to divert focus for whatever reason is when dealing with mages and such better geared. This was rather evident in tonight's Foul Cascade since despite backwards kiting the spider boss and trying to hold all the babies, it'd still veer off toward the mage when not doing an impregnate. And to be honest, it made the fight a lot harder than it needed to be since them dying basically meant me holding even more spiders, dodging poison, and trying to get new spawns off the others. x.x

[Meph]

keep spamming multitarget-attacks and keep intercept up on whoever does the most damage usually works :)

[arus2001]

Check on the first, my Reaver/Paladin build lacks the latter. :/

Though I suspect little things like that are why they're looking to up their enmity generation.

[Guyverarmor]

I honestly love my Reaver/Paladin build... I think it provides the best of both worlds... but yeah, seems I have to work a little harder for threat than on a VK >.> Unless I got my rotation wrong. I use usally start with Plague Bringer--> Soul Sick-->Necrotic Wounds--> Then start tabing targets Crusade strike then spotters order.

[AidenCarby]

1 point spotters spam, everything else is irrelevant, just make sure you have battlefield awareness buff active. Spam that and cracking skulls, you won't lose aggro. Use cleave as your point builder.

[Guyverarmor]

Ah ok, will do this starting tonight. Thanks Aiden

[AidenCarby]

F'sho :>

[arus2001]

Thinking about dabbling in PvP more, but browsing on a good spec for warriors just has people QQing about their current state. While I'm currently more geared for tanking, I figure I should build a DD set around PvP so it can multi-task in PvE settings. Any suggestions from people who've done it? Only P1 for now with about 25k Favor and whatever it cost to buy the PvP soul, but that seemed more defensively focused.

[AidenCarby]

51 rb / 15 vk for now. Also, there's a ton of forum QQbecause warrior is the worst pvp class and the changes stated don't look to be helping. Defensive pvp won't work because the only incentive of doing so(subdue) is broken and has been broken for going on three months. For now since you're starting, go 51rb/15k with sword and board, it still puts out good damage as it's all elemental. Make sure you pick up spell sunder and ravenous strength from Void Knight tree.

[arus2001]

This one might be tricky, but does Consuming Faesource (http://rift.zam.com/en/item/99C3CD840601010101/Consuming-Faesource) work only if you're casting the heal and can it trigger on Reaver abilities like Soul Sickness and Creeping Death?

[Guyverarmor]

It wouldn't since they are not innate healing spells.. trust me, already tried it :P

[arus2001]

Hmm, suggestions on tanking greater essences, then? My other one is the shield block heal.

[AidenCarby]

Don't bother with them just stack lessers with stats.

[arus2001]

Currently STR+45, DEX+10, END+83, Block +59, Dodge +30, Life/Death/Water/Earth Resist +16 on my lessers. Imagine there's better hiding amongst raids and expensive synths, but basically how I am for now. :/

[AidenCarby]

Farm your ass off for inscribed sourcestones, there's some bis tanking lesser sheets floating around. Make sure your machine is filled with npc bought lesser essences only. Actually at this point, you're better off farming up 900 inscribed for the 1.6 patch, new/better essences are coming out, they're a bit more expensive but worth the grind.

[arus2001]

Yeah, the lessers I have in now came from the plane vendors with sourcestone costs. Sitting on 83 IS at the moment, though. With no foreseeable expenses on that there, I imagine I'll be closer to 900 by the time 1.6 rolls around.

Edit: Found a decent greater from the Rare Planar vendor in Fortune's Shore. Basically a stoneskin when struck.

[Melena]

There still not very good. Overall you'll get more mitigation from the lessers then you will from a greater.

[arus2001]

Any rhyme or reason to rare spawns for various achievements (like placeholders) or all just stupidly timed luck fests?

[AidenCarby]

Luck fests

[Kuya]

Not sure if this was answered (i'll skim through the thread later), but i would like some suggestions in regards to rougue tanking. I finally got around to buying a fourth slot, so i am thinking of using that for a tanking spec, so i now have a few questions.

1. What combination of souls would you guys suggest? I commonly see riftstalker and bladedancer being paired, so if that's the best combo, what would you suggest as a third soul? Or alternatively, what would you suggest that is not rs/bd?

2. What general tips should i keep in mind while rogue tanking?

3. In relation to whatever soul combination suggested, what macros/routines/cycles should i use?

4. What stats would my equipment need and would that equipment be substantially different to a dps spec? And in relation to that, is there any way to quickly switch between gear sets without having to reequip piece by piece when you switch from a dps to a tank? Forgive me for not knowing about that yet.

[Raen Ryong]

1. 51Riftstalker/8Bladedancer/7Ranger or /7Bladedancer/8Ranger is the "old reliable" There are some new builds people are experimenting with involving 49 RS/17 BD and such though.

2. Get used to keeping up blinks and rationing cooldowns. Think creatively about how you can use your considerable kiting potential to great effect (preferably without cleaving your raid but optional :>)

3. You want a macro like

#show Phantom Blow
suppressmacrofailures
cast Planar Switch <= up to you whether you put this one there; I basically use the ability for an off-GCD free combo point
cast Phantom Blow
cast Planar Strike

and likewise for

#show Rift Disturbance
suppressmacrofailures
cast Rift Disturbance
cast Twin Strike

This is your AoE macro, the first is your singletarget.

Riftstalker was simplified greatly recently and now you basically just have to worry about keeping Guarded Steel up, which is easy. The main thing is remembering to keep Planar Vortex up for threat purposes (plus it sounds cool). For this purpose I recommend having a macro like

#show Shadow Blitz
suppressmacrofailures
cast Shadow Blitz
cast Shadow Assault
cast Shadow Stalk
cast Shadow Warp

this allows you to just get a teleport if you need one (if you space them perfectly, you should never see Shadow Warp. It'll be used (and remember, it requires you to target somewhere on the ground) if you mess up the timing slightly. Furthermore I recommend then putting each individual teleport on separate buttons and then using that one in the situations where you simply don't care which you use.

Flashback/Memory Capture are useful for LOS pulls and kiting. Not much more to say about them.

You will be squishy before you get up your Guarded Steel buff, so it is often worthwhile putting Splinter Shot from Ranger onto your action bar. This way, you can pull a mob with Splinter Shot, warp on top of them while they are still together, and start the fight with 4-5 combo points, allowing for a quick and easy 5 point Guarded Steel. This ability is overlooked a lot of the time.

4. /loadequip x and /saveequip x. x is a number between 1 and 9 (does 0 work? idk). People are still working out which stats are best defensively, simply because Deflect is a very good new defensive stat which thrives on Dexterity... and most tanking gear comes with End/Dodge/Parry. Ie, not dexterity. So people are finding even hybrids or full dex pieces can sometimes outperform... it's all situational. You want a baseline good level of HP for the encounters you're doing and from there you can dabble in Dexterity some (since it gives you Dodge/Deflect, both of which increase the effectiveness of your existing HP).

[Kuya]

2. What does blinking mean? Same as teleporting?

4. Are equipment slots numbered so that /loadequip 1 specifically refers to, for example, head piece? And /saveequip x means that a specific piece of equipment is saved so that when i switch out of that build, and then back, that same piece of equipment will be automatically equiped?

[arus2001]

Saveequip saves the entirety of what you're wearing at the time to that number. You can only change armor when out of battle, but weapons can be swapped. Just be cautious about inventory space if you're going from sword/board or dual-wield to a two-hander, though. Won't let you if your bag is full. You'll also get a warning if a piece of gear is missing from a saved set, which can be kind of annoying.

[Raen Ryong]

Yeah, blink = teleport; sorry.

You can perform individual gear swaps FFXI-style but it relies on them falling into the same position of your bag each time etc. Much simpler in practice just to make gear sets and /saveequip /loadequip to get between them.

[Kuya]

Thanks for the help, guys! Really appreciate the information.

[Alderaan]

Not really a question but, the weapons in RoTP have THE best skins in the game. I've been staring at the 2 hand sword and 1 hand sword skins for like an hour.

[Khalil]

1. 51Riftstalker/8Bladedancer/7Ranger or /7Bladedancer/8Ranger is the "old reliable" There are some new builds people are experimenting with involving 49 RS/17 BD and such though.

2. Get used to keeping up blinks and rationing cooldowns. Think creatively about how you can use your considerable kiting potential to great effect (preferably without cleaving your raid but optional :>)

3. You want a macro like

#show Phantom Blow
suppressmacrofailures
cast Planar Switch <= up to you whether you put this one there; I basically use the ability for an off-GCD free combo point
cast Phantom Blow
cast Planar Strike

and likewise for

#show Rift Disturbance
suppressmacrofailures
cast Rift Disturbance
cast Twin Strike

This is your AoE macro, the first is your singletarget.

Riftstalker was simplified greatly recently and now you basically just have to worry about keeping Guarded Steel up, which is easy. The main thing is remembering to keep Planar Vortex up for threat purposes (plus it sounds cool). For this purpose I recommend having a macro like

#show Shadow Blitz
suppressmacrofailures
cast Shadow Blitz
cast Shadow Assault
cast Shadow Stalk
cast Shadow Warp

this allows you to just get a teleport if you need one (if you space them perfectly, you should never see Shadow Warp. It'll be used (and remember, it requires you to target somewhere on the ground) if you mess up the timing slightly. Furthermore I recommend then putting each individual teleport on separate buttons and then using that one in the situations where you simply don't care which you use.

Flashback/Memory Capture are useful for LOS pulls and kiting. Not much more to say about them.

You will be squishy before you get up your Guarded Steel buff, so it is often worthwhile putting Splinter Shot from Ranger onto your action bar. This way, you can pull a mob with Splinter Shot, warp on top of them while they are still together, and start the fight with 4-5 combo points, allowing for a quick and easy 5 point Guarded Steel. This ability is overlooked a lot of the time.

4. /loadequip x and /saveequip x. x is a number between 1 and 9 (does 0 work? idk). People are still working out which stats are best defensively, simply because Deflect is a very good new defensive stat which thrives on Dexterity... and most tanking gear comes with End/Dodge/Parry. Ie, not dexterity. So people are finding even hybrids or full dex pieces can sometimes outperform... it's all situational. You want a baseline good level of HP for the encounters you're doing and from there you can dabble in Dexterity some (since it gives you Dodge/Deflect, both of which increase the effectiveness of your existing HP).

Actually, a lot of our (old) problems stems from not having Rift Guard and Guarded Steel up asap. This was remedied as of 1.6. The moment you blink in, you have Rift Guard. If you've used Shadow Blitz/Assault, you have 2 CPs, so use them for Guarded Steel. BAM! You have an additional 20% chance to deflect plus your armor is increased. Keep False Blade and Annihilate up and you're golden.

Also, offGCD abilities should be at the bottom of your macro list. You'll have to double-tap them if they're at the top. For example;

cast Reprisal
cast Planar Switch
cast Phantom Blow
cast Planar Strike

In order for Phantom Blow to proc, you'll have to tap your macro button twice if Reprisal is up. However, during the GCD, you can use both of those top abilities with no worries. The proper way of handling offGCD abilities is as follows;

cast Phantom Blow
cast Planar Strike
cast Reprisal
cast Planar Switch

[Raen Ryong]

What's wrong with tapping it twice? :O

And I understand from the Rift Guard/Guarded Steel thing but they're making Riftstalker almost braindead to play these days. You could always work around the initial start up too.

I also prefer 8Ranger to 7 Ranger but that's just me, for general situations. If I had more than one role dedicated to RS builds I'd use different ones I suppose.

[Insanecyclone]

How is the population since launch? Beta was fun, but had no real desire to play at launch. It's been on sale multiple times and...it's tempting.

[Crizto]

How is the population since launch? Beta was fun, but had no real desire to play at launch. It's been on sale multiple times and...it's tempting.

PvP Servers are ridiculously populated. I think the population of the game is pretty good although it will go down a bit once Star Wars comes out.

[Insanecyclone]

PvP Servers are ridiculously populated. I think the population of the game is pretty good although it will go down a bit once Star Wars comes out.
I'm not a PVP person, so the PVE ones are less populated? Also Standard on sale for $7.49 and Collector's $9.99 on steam for daily.

[Khalil]

What's wrong with tapping it twice? :O

And I understand from the Rift Guard/Guarded Steel thing but they're making Riftstalker almost braindead to play these days. You could always work around the initial start up too.

I also prefer 8Ranger to 7 Ranger but that's just me, for general situations. If I had more than one role dedicated to RS builds I'd use different ones I suppose.

Nothing's wrong with double tapping but efficiency is the name of the game, lol. If you could save yourself a single press of a macro, why not?

The 51RS/8BD/7RNG is the most average mitigation spec we have. The 41RS/17BD is good for adds and running T2 dungeons.

[Raen Ryong]

-damagetaken% has increasing returns though, such that combined with other Riftstalker damage reductions you are getting ~-3% damage taken from the last point of Bolster working against both physical and magical, whereas Parry is physical only and luck based (where reliable mitigation > luck-based mitigation). This is why I've always preferred the 8ranger.

I don't see the need to rearrange the off-GCDs still though; if I want to use Phantom Blow in the example above, I double tap. If I don't want to use Phantom Blow and just want to use my reactive (for whatever reason) I singletap. Similarly if you wanted to use Phantom Blow, you'd singletap and double tap for your reactive.

The question becomes when would you want to only use one without the other? In either case you have reactives and normals flying off around each other and in neither case do you waste GCDs (the only time this would happen is on the first button press of the fight ... but there are no reactives then). In either case you are, for want of a better term, mashing buttons. I don't think I'm articulating very well.

[Crizto]

I'm not a PVP person, so the PVE ones are less populated? Also Standard on sale for $7.49 and Collector's $9.99 on steam for daily.

Well I've only been on 1 PvE server and 1 PvP server. The difference is noticeable, but the PvE server I'm on as always been a "medium" populated server. There are definitely PvE servers that are populated as well. Just need to go down the list and find one :o

[Khalil]

-damagetaken% has increasing returns though, such that combined with other Riftstalker damage reductions you are getting ~-3% damage taken from the last point of Bolster working against both physical and magical, whereas Parry is physical only and luck based (where reliable mitigation > luck-based mitigation). This is why I've always preferred the 8ranger.

I don't see the need to rearrange the off-GCDs still though; if I want to use Phantom Blow in the example above, I double tap. If I don't want to use Phantom Blow and just want to use my reactive (for whatever reason) I singletap. Similarly if you wanted to use Phantom Blow, you'd singletap and double tap for your reactive.

The question becomes when would you want to only use one without the other? In either case you have reactives and normals flying off around each other and in neither case do you waste GCDs (the only time this would happen is on the first button press of the fight ... but there are no reactives then). In either case you are, for want of a better term, mashing buttons. I don't think I'm articulating very well.

I won't deny that the overall returns from an extra point in Bolster would outweight the slightly extra threat from another Strike Back from the BD tree or that 51pt ability, StS. So long as you don't keep using StS, that extra mitigation does outweight the 5% dodge from False Blade as well as decreases chance to hit back enemies.

However, the offGCDs is something I prefer. Then again, I smash my keys as well.

The only reason -dmg taken% has increasing returns is how simple Rift's method of calculating dmg is. We're just so accustomed to FFXI that seeing something simple has boggled our minds...

[Raen Ryong]

The only reason -dmg taken% has increasing returns is how simple Rift's method of calculating dmg is. We're just so accustomed to FFXI that seeing something simple has boggled our minds...

I wouldn't say it's comparatively simple so much as straightforward. Both go through the same process, ie

Enemy damage starts here => chance of x event! => (1 - xevent%)damage => chance of y event! => (1 - yevent%)damage => etc right to the end. FFXI just wasn't nice enough to come out and tell us how it all worked :p

[Khalil]

So, I did a quick little mitigation check from gaining 2% from Bolster and without on all of our attacks; physical, non-physical and magical.

So, quick run down of our mitigation; 6% damage taken from Phantom Blow, 6% damage taken from Exceptional Resilience, 15% physical damage taken from Shadow Guard, 5% non-physical damage taken from Improved Guardian Phase. Finally, 35% from Rift Guard. My math does not include Deflect but I can add in later.

This is with a 59% reduction from armor; 1-[(1-0.59)(1-0.33)(1-0.35)] = 82.14% mitigation from physical.
Now, let's try it with only 4% from Bolster; 1-[(1-0.59)(1-0.31)(1-0.35)] = 81.61% mitigation from physical.

Using the same method for non-physical and magical, we end with the following;

With 6% from Bolster; 46.7% mitigation from magical.
With 4% from Bolster; 45.4% mitigation from magical.

With 6% from Bolster; 49.9% mitigation from non-physical.
With 4% from Bolster; 48.6% mitigation from non-physical.

The difference in %mitigation are small, however given a long fight such as Akylios, and the benefits will sharply contrast those with the last point in Bolster. That being said, with putting 7pts in BD, you lose out on 5% extra Dodge.

[Raen Ryong]

You do yeah; 8BD is better vs pure physical opponents and 8Rng vs those who use magic. Our tanking experiences likely vary in that I haven't tanked any of Hammerknell due to having no guild that raids at a convenient time for me, so my tanking was largely in the RoS/GSB/DH/GP (and lolT2s but yeah) areas, where Greenscale and Herald were my main "big targets", where obviously I valued the mixed mitigation one a little bit more.

It could be a bad choice, but I remember going through all of the math behind it and finding it quite sound.

If you do HK mainly which is largely physical (or so I'm lead to believe?) then I can definitely see 8BD becoming more and more useful.

[Khalil]

You do yeah; 8BD is better vs pure physical opponents and 8Rng vs those who use magic. Our tanking experiences likely vary in that I haven't tanked any of Hammerknell due to having no guild that raids at a convenient time for me, so my tanking was largely in the RoS/GSB/DH/GP (and lolT2s but yeah) areas, where Greenscale and Herald were my main "big targets", where obviously I valued the mixed mitigation one a little bit more.

It could be a bad choice, but I remember going through all of the math behind it and finding it quite sound.

If you do HK mainly which is largely physical (or so I'm lead to believe?) then I can definitely see 8BD becoming more and more useful.

The lower floor is mainly filled with physical with some abilities magical or non-physical. The upper floor, however, is a mixture of both. With the 1.6 changes and our Shadow Guard working as intended, we can pretty much tank any boss in HK. However, the Lashers from Akylios still hit like a truck, around 7-8k after mitigation and without deflect. Jornaru, himself, hits just below the Lashers...

In HK, Warriors excel at it while Rogues/Justicars fight for the leftovers. That isn't to say we suck, they're just way better than us, lol.

[Melena]

I'm not a PVP person, so the PVE ones are less populated? Also Standard on sale for $7.49 and Collector's $9.99 on steam for daily.

Populations overall are good. The biggest issue i've seen is people geared for Hammerknell to replace your normal attrition of people who got spoiled by lolwow difficulty and the last boss slaps you with a debuff making your tanks needing more toughness and everyone else more hit so they can actually hit the boss.

[AidenCarby]

Fun akylios tip, challenge someone to a duel, and have one of them jump into the water before engaging jornaru. The debuff goes away, not sure if it's been patched yet but my old guild was doing that to figure out the mechanics. Good luck

[Crizto]

1 month bump here we go!

Got some new guys in the guild, Darktide being lame as always during P2 on the melee side. For the pulls we've always had a BM pet pull with the tank there and the rest of the raid LoS'ed behind a rock. Typically it works pretty well, but last night there were like 50 million deaths. I wasn't on the melee side to get a clear idea what was going on, but just got me thinking if there is a fool-proof way of pulling that side that doesn't lead to clerics getting all 4 spawns to charge at them?

[AidenCarby]

Stack on the tank.

[Melena]

Found an interesting way to not get adds on the melee side. WOTM bugs it so the mob will aggro, but so long as no one is near the warrior pulling, no adds will come.

[Crizto]

Found an interesting way to not get adds on the melee side. WOTM bugs it so the mob will aggro, but so long as no one is near the warrior pulling, no adds will come.

What can't WOTM do >_>

[Melena]

Yea no shit. It let me solo that annoying mob in KB I believe for the epic quest line. Let him rape the rest of my party then promptly solo'd him over the next 5 minutes.

[Insanecyclone]

So what shard is everyone on? Bought it today, applying patch atm.

[Crizto]

Belmont. My sig lies

[Diamicles]

Seastone, guardian side. If I had enough time to start a new character I'd do defiant though.

[Melena]

Byriel Guardian side but our guild is contemplating a server hop to a more populated server if this merger falls through.

[Insanecyclone]

Have a 2 guys on Greybriar, Mezraq Guardian, and Sagohzo Defiant.

[Meko]

Anybody playing this game anymore? The 1.5 stuff looks very interesting. Sorry, I haven't followed it lately but it caught my eye again. ;)

[Meph]

1.5? 1.7 is about to hit lol