Final Fantasy 12 :OMG Discussion Thread

[Toralyn]

where is the list of who is better at certain weapons, enhanced crit rate and such, I cant find that post

I want to know if it even matters. I'm using Basch, Ashe and Belthier at the moment, with Sword, GKT and Gun respectively, and each is dishing out a ton of damage. Basch constant double attacks for me, Ashe I switch between bow and GKT (mob dependant), and Belthier's new gun is hitting for 400+.

Also have Vaan using dagger, Fran with H2H (despite being level 9, lol), and Penelo using Gun too.....so.....does it matter? I wouldn't imagine so, at least not yet.

[Dion]

Chains have 4 levels, the higher the chain, the better the chance of good items dropping is.

A question of my own. I finished KRT already, but I'm back to XP grind and I want my Demonsbane sword. I beat the optional wall, and now I'm stuck on where to go for the sword.


Not finished the tomb yet but i beat the optional wall and got the secret passage thing. All that was down there was a chest with 192 gil in it ><. Wheres the sword?

[Lbelle]

Chains have 4 levels, the higher the chain, the better the chance of good items dropping is.

A question of my own. I finished KRT already, but I'm back to XP grind and I want my Demonsbane sword. I beat the optional wall, and now I'm stuck on where to go for the sword.


Not finished the tomb yet but i beat the optional wall and got the secret passage thing. All that was down there was a chest with 192 gil in it ><. Wheres the sword?

sword is a random drop in the chest iirc.

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I have my characters all using different types of weapons and they all do great damage with whatever I put them with, so I'm not sure if it really matters at this point.

[Toralyn]

Chains have 4 levels, the higher the chain, the better the chance of good items dropping is.

A question of my own. I finished KRT already, but I'm back to XP grind and I want my Demonsbane sword. I beat the optional wall, and now I'm stuck on where to go for the sword.


Not finished the tomb yet but i beat the optional wall and got the secret passage thing. All that was down there was a chest with 192 gil in it ><. Wheres the sword?

sword is a random drop in the chest iirc.

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I have my characters all using different types of weapons and they all do great damage with whatever I put them with, so I'm not sure if it really matters at this point.

See, I beat the optional wall and got the secret passage thing, with the stairs that pop up, but I never found a chest anywhere down there, and I was looking too.

[Pezant]

Chains have 4 levels, the higher the chain, the better the chance of good items dropping is.

A question of my own. I finished KRT already, but I'm back to XP grind and I want my Demonsbane sword. I beat the optional wall, and now I'm stuck on where to go for the sword.


Not finished the tomb yet but i beat the optional wall and got the secret passage thing. All that was down there was a chest with 192 gil in it ><. Wheres the sword?

sword is a random drop in the chest iirc.

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I have my characters all using different types of weapons and they all do great damage with whatever I put them with, so I'm not sure if it really matters at this point.

See, I beat the optional wall and got the secret passage thing, with the stairs that pop up, but I never found a chest anywhere down there, and I was looking too.

Try saving your game and then loading it. You can also try zoning out of the tomb and then zoning back in. If the chest isn't there then you should reload the game.

[Epical]

Played about 7 hours tonight... just killed Judge Ghin or whatever. The game is fuckin awwweeesooommmeeee. HOWEVER, there's one thing that's irking me... the license board. Every time I choose an ability for someone I keep thinking I'm making the wrong choice or whatever... here's basically where I'm planning to take my characters:

Vaan - Don't plan on using him all that much... he's got Lv4 sword, Lv2 shield, cure, and that's about it

Penelo - Going to be my spur-of-the-moment BLM or WHM. Decking all her licenses out in magic shit, and depending if I have Ashe or not in certain battles she'll either be nuking or healing (obviously adjusting the gambits accordingly). Lv1 staves, advancing on her magic skills.

Basche - My tank! He's got Lv6/7 sword/shield (bloodsword too, don't know what that does tho), Lv6 heavy armor. Once I finish up his equipment licenses, I'll work on curative magic.

Balalalafor - RNG with leather (light/HP+++++++++) gear. Plan on swapping him out with Fran depending on the situation. He'll be like my Vincent (guns/xbow), per se.

Fran - RNG with heavy gear (STR+++++++, super DD). Plan on swapping her out with Ballalalalalalalalallilly depending on the situation. She's got maxed out bows... probably not going to venture over into guns or crossbows since I have to spend a whole lot of points on daggers and whatnot to get there.

Ashe - My main WHM or RDM. Lv6 White magic, starting to develop her Green magic. Lv1 or 2 staves.

At this point, my main 3 will be Basche, Ashe, and either Penelo or Fran for the most part. Obviously some bosses are immune to magic or something, so I'll use a melee char instead. I'm not sure if I'll encounter any new players in the future that will make me alter this (probably will), but we'll see. Gogo cookie cutter tank-dd-healer parties! Woo!











Soo, like I was saying, I'm probably doing this all wrong. =\ Oh well, I just want to beat the story/game. =D

[Anyway]

bloodsword too, don't know what that does tho
It adds Sap to the enemy, which is a pretty fast DoT.

[Elesirdur]

Anyone else notice how similar the weapon attack animations are to the ones in FFXI?

I swear the white magic casting animations are the exact same animations as Hume Ninjitsu. Not only does SE recycle models in FFXI, they recycle animations across games! There's that legendary Japanese efficiency.

[Epical]

bloodsword too, don't know what that does tho
It adds Sap to the enemy, which is a pretty fast DoT.
1) WoW sap or drain-hp sap? 2) Is it a passive proc? I tried looking for an actual Bloodsword item to equip, but alas, there wasn't one.



Anyone else notice how similar the weapon attack animations are to the ones in FFXI?

I swear the white magic casting animations are the exact same animations as Hume Ninjitsu. Not only does SE recycle models in FFXI, they recycle animations across games! There's that legendary Japanese efficiency.
Haha yep, I saw that too. If you watch the opening intro again (lolhavefun), all the people riding ceremonial/war chocobos ride them *exactly* like Elvaans do in XI.

[Lbelle]

CUTE ALERT!!!

If you go into one of the shops in Ranbanastre (it's one of these: magic, weapons, defense, gambits, techniks) there is a moogle in Monk AF just standing next to the counter. It's soooooooooooo adorable.

[Sonomaa]

why the hell so many knots of rust

edit: does poaching not get you exp from kill?

[Toralyn]

why the hell so many knots of rust

edit: does poaching not get you exp from kill?

Epical: It shows up in Rabanstre's shop later. Teleport back every now and then to check it out (provided you kept your stones), and yes, it's a Drain-HP sword.

Sonomaa: Nope =\ You capture the mob, just like the description says, for a higher chance at getting rare items. And Knot of Rust is like...the bottom of the barrel for shitty items, just pawn them to shops.

[Almaa]

ooooooooooooh. Does Vaan have Foe:closest (or Foe:closest visible) or Foe:any equipped? If so, take it off and just make it Foe:party leader's target (yes, I get that Vaan is your leader, but it'll quit the constant mob changing).

that helps but it still requires me to manually target a mob, was hoping to auto target then pay attention to HPs

This is my setup for targetting:

Leader has the Foe:party leader's target, then under it I have Foe:Targeting ally. Then for everyone else I have Foe:party leader's target.

That way when there are multiple mobs, if they target anyone in the pt, my leader will attack one and everyone will attack it until it's dead, then move on to the next mob targeting the pt. That keeps them from running around attacking anything too.

Also... question: Could you theoretically farm LP and get every square on the board for every character (excluding one time use squares) or is there some sort of limit? If so I wouldn't worry about doing it wrong, just get what you like and think is best... and eventually pick up whatever you left off when you have extra LP.

[Sonomaa]

yes, you can unlock every board piece except the 1 time use ones

[Toralyn]

Nah, you could theoretically do it, but it takes like 13k LP to do it.

edit: beat to it -.-

[Sonomaa]

a good steal gambit Ive found is this

steal @ 100%
then have another person, preferably with ranged attack do hp:100% = attack

that way your person steals at 100% then somebody else comes along and shoots that target, your stealer moves onto the next one if there are multiple, and your shooter ticks thier HPs down below 100% with another attack, so you have several mobs not at 100% and then the next gambit in cycle is to attack party leaders target, voila, the killing can commence

[Sonomaa]

ooooooooooooh. Does Vaan have Foe:closest (or Foe:closest visible) or Foe:any equipped? If so, take it off and just make it Foe:party leader's target (yes, I get that Vaan is your leader, but it'll quit the constant mob changing).

that helps but it still requires me to manually target a mob, was hoping to auto target then pay attention to HPs

This is my setup for targetting:

Leader has the Foe:party leader's target, then under it I have Foe:Targeting ally. Then for everyone else I have Foe:party leader's target.

That way when there are multiple mobs, if they target anyone in the pt, my leader will attack one and everyone will attack it until it's dead, then move on to the next mob targeting the pt. That keeps them from running around attacking anything too.

Also... question: Could you theoretically farm LP and get every square on the board for every character (excluding one time use squares) or is there some sort of limit? If so I wouldn't worry about doing it wrong, just get what you like and think is best... and eventually pick up whatever you left off when you have extra LP.

this setup works great, thanks!

[Epical]

Knot of Rust is like...the bottom of the barrel for shitty items, just pawn them to shops.
Man... I still had them left over in my inventory from the escape from that N_____ jail, so I used them all on Gihn, and wow, they're good dmg. O_O Spammable, they do anywhere from 100-400 dmg (had one do 393, but as low as 96ish). They're nice for bosses or for links, or wherever you need extra damage fast.

[Vixy]

Weird question but, you can pop the NMs after killing them once? Like I just stole a 46dmg dagger from a NM wolf in eastern with a pt of lvl11s and ran but I want to know if I can pop again once I kill it to steal more.

[Sonomaa]

I refuse to leave this mine untill I get my killer bow back... might be here a while, level 16, time for sleepcat

[deviousone]

Yeah don't worry too much about making bad decisions on LP points. Soon you'll have the chance to buy the Double LP item, making it so that every enemy you kill doubles the LP you recieve from it.

[SathFenrir]

I just got a killer bow on my way out from my 3rd attempt at Rocktoise in the mine (it's aspid, I swear to god)

From what I've read everyone has just basically been making TP burn XP pt setups carry over to FFXII, which kinda made me lol.

What I've done with Ashe so far is basically dominate the lower left side of magic category on LP (MP cost down, MAB+, MP+ when dmg, MP+ when do dmg) and I have her in Wizards shit + staff, and my gambits for her are basically chain nuking and curing when she needs to.

It's interesting and damage / speed ratio's are comparitive to Vaan / Basch beating things up, but what I really like about it is that when vaan cures someone with Cure 1 its like 140 HP, when Ashe does it in al MAB+ gear its for lke 250+ which is VERY useful if you wanna do harder hunts early (im 18-19 lv and still a bit too low for Aspid trio, leveling up more now)

I'd like to hear from people later in the game if magic gets the boot (typical relation would be FF7, you level up to tier 3 BLM materia and its wicked powerful, but by the end of the game if you think about casting Fire III you're a fucking idiot)

Would be nice to have a dedicated BLM/SMN and make Penelo WHM/RDM

[GraveRobberX]

I got some ?'s I need answering

I have Vaan,Fran,Bal, and Basch as my PT
(there @ the westersand divide) lvl14-15

How do I get new gear seriously, I have sold off all my merchandise
Anything drops I sell to get better stuff from shops
But nothing appears =/

Second what mine are people talking about grinding?

I lvl'ed up on wolves till 8 (solo), Penelo + Vaan (12) on random Ulthrix, and now the 4 man pt running rampant in the Western sands owning everything (not letting go of my guest Basche yet, he's really helpful)

Ugh seriously I think I have fucked up in this game quickly by not bying the guide ; ;

Oh wells

Any help would be appreciated

[deviousone]

I'd like to hear from people later in the game if magic gets the boot (typical relation would be FF7, you level up to tier 3 BLM materia and its wicked powerful, but by the end of the game if you think about casting Fire III you're a fucking idiot)



Magic and Physical dmg both have their importance in this game. Physical dmg will be better then magical for regular enemies by far until you get tier 3 AoE spells, and even then if you're able to get your hands on some of the strongest weapons in the game early on its still a bit better. (For instance me getting the Strongest gun from a Mine pretty early into the game, talking lvl 40s)

But reason I say they both have importance in this game is because a lot of bosses later in the game have Physical and Magical dmg shields, so having a good resource of both is good or your fucked

[SathFenrir]

Good to hear I'm goin the smart path then XD

I've got a question about quickenings, nothing spoiler-ish but I tend to fuck up on the simplest things...

I've been reading about how quickening combo's are the shit and all that, but my quickenings do like 700 dmg, 2500 in a 2 person combo (lv 16-18) and in the 4 seconds I have to either A) watch the scene or B) try to figure out if im supposed to go FFVIII style and R1 spam to pump it up (squall) i kinda end up just getting really confused.

Sometimes I spam R2 button, sometimes I just watch CGI, damage stays the same it seems, what am I doing wrong? ;;

[Helpoemer]

don't spam R2, just tap it till you get a PT member's name in white then press respective button

for all you ppl trying to make sense of the foe gambits, i'll post a good set for pretty much everyone

1. Ally: Any -> Phoenix Down (no it won't make them spam phoenix downs on anyone)
2. Ally: HP less than 60% -> Cura/Curaja (make it 40% or 50% for the melees with white magic for backup)
3. Ally: Any -> Esuna (when you get it)
4. Foe: Party leader's target -> Attack (put this one even on your leader to make him stick with it)
5. Foe: Nearest visible -> Attack (put this for everyone too, your non-leader members will just switch to #4 while leader changes target)


that's pretty much the basic set that will take you really far into the game

hope it helps ^^

[izembo]

Good to hear I'm goin the smart path then XD

I've got a question about quickenings, nothing spoiler-ish but I tend to fuck up on the simplest things...

I've been reading about how quickening combo's are the shit and all that, but my quickenings do like 700 dmg, 2500 in a 2 person combo (lv 16-18) and in the 4 seconds I have to either A) watch the scene or B) try to figure out if im supposed to go FFVIII style and R1 spam to pump it up (squall) i kinda end up just getting really confused.

Sometimes I spam R2 button, sometimes I just watch CGI, damage stays the same it seems, what am I doing wrong? ;;


yea im trying to understand what to do for quickenings too :/

[Lbelle]

I don't know if it's because I got my second quickening with her, but Penelo's MP just quadrupled almost...

Does quickening increase MP?

[Vaspinne]

Helpoemer pretty much covered it. When you go into Quickinings, depending on how many "mist charges" you have, you can use a buncha Quickenings in a row. The names of the people with Quickenings unlocked are going to be in either white, or grey. If they are all in grey, press R2 until 1 is white. With only 4 seconds, its a little tricky.

But yeah, if you chain so many quickinings in a row, you get a burst of some sort. Theres a list of all the types of bursts you can get, but all I can remember at this point is that with 3 chained Quickinings, you get the first basic burst.

Edit, yeah, more quickinings = more MP. Not counting unlocking the first one

[Shuichi]

I'm still adjusting to the whole Quickening thing. I can chain them fine when everyone has the MP for one. But, I can't seem to link them and get a Quickening for free even when the MP has been used on a regular basis. Not really using the gambits yet on a detailed level. Overall the game is fun, and i'm 9hours into the game and enjoying it. Too many things "borrowed" from FFXI tho lol.

[Almaa]

I don't know if it's because I got my second quickening with her, but Penelo's MP just quadrupled almost...

Does quickening increase MP?

yes, when you unlock a second and third quickening you get an MP bonus equal to your total MP

[izembo]

so how do quickenings work? >_>

[Po]

Man all this Gambit talk makes it sound really fuckin awesome. I can't wait till I am able to get it. I finished the first 2 hunts and just gave Dalan the sunstone and got the crescent stone from him. I am about to go raid the Palace. It seems like from the cutscene after that with the three people, something is about to pick up and I can't wait.. I just got tired last night since I had to start over to get Zodiac Spear :oops:
One of the features that seems cool is that you can customize any character to be proficient in any weapon you want right? Unless I am understanding that wrong. I'll prob just have Vaan be my sword user, since I am used to the main character in an rpg always being that character. I have a feeling I am just going to love Baltheir though (since I'm a Ranger). I would think I'll love Basch too, since he came across as a bad ass in the beginning tutorial section.
So will I have gambits to mess with soon? I hope so, they sound really awesome. I was thinking it was just gonna be a glorified system like you had for Donald and Goofy in KH, but it seems like so much more than that which is exciting. Also I really like the License Board system, lot more user friendly than the sphere bullshit in X.

[Sonomaa]

try giving vaan a dagger, I found he could do as much damage as his sword with a dagger, except faster ^^

when you start moving to the left and down on the lisc board (in the spell area) you get into boosts like HP and attack, I went pretty far in my grinding last night and found an attack speed booster, 10% haste yay
havent unlocked any quickenings yet, want to make sure I get the right ones for characters (or does it just not matter)

[Po]

Sounds good Sonomaa.
Quickenings are all unlocked from the license board right? And then once you unlock them on the board do you buy them from a shop, or are they just choices in the battle menu?

Make a FFXII section Sonomaa :D

[Correction]

try giving vaan a dagger, I found he could do as much damage as his sword with a dagger, except faster ^^

when you start moving to the left and down on the lisc board (in the spell area) you get into boosts like HP and attack, I went pretty far in my grinding last night and found an attack speed booster, 10% haste yay
havent unlocked any quickenings yet, want to make sure I get the right ones for characters (or does it just not matter)

Doesn't matter.

I realize FFXII can make you paranoid about how you go about gathering treasure, but there's no way you can make a mistake unlocking quickenings for your characters.

They all deal equally shitty damage on their own, esp. considering the MP cost. The main reason to have them is they dramatically increase your MP for spellcasting and let you do the chains which are the heart of the fun of doing 30-50k damage to bosses using all your remaining MP.

[Vile]

try giving vaan a dagger, I found he could do as much damage as his sword with a dagger, except faster ^^

when you start moving to the left and down on the lisc board (in the spell area) you get into boosts like HP and attack, I went pretty far in my grinding last night and found an attack speed booster, 10% haste yay
havent unlocked any quickenings yet, want to make sure I get the right ones for characters (or does it just not matter)

There are 18 Squares on the whole board that you can learn quickenings.
When someone learns a quickening from one of the squares, it becomes an empty slot on the other 5 characters boards. Pretty much what you wanna do is head towards the quickening squares where you know you're gonna have that character go on their board.

If you have a character who you know is gonna be using staves//rods there are 3 in that area. Maybe another character is gonna use Great Katanas, there are 1 or two spaces near there.

It doesn't matter where you learn them from, and each character learns their moves in the same order (Ex for Vaan its Red Spiral, White Whorl, then pyro something or other)

There is prolly gonna be one character who is gonna have a bit of a journy to get their quickenings. I had to send Fran all the way through armor and save up 150 LP to buy the Genji square to get her last ability D;



Edit: Even if you don't plan on using them much, getting them for the mp boost alone is worth it. Penelo had a base of around 90ish mp@20 with no quickenings. With all 3 learned it boost it up to 270. When you have spells like Cura which cost 32? mp and no way to buy ethers it can be a problem. As the dungeons//bosses//enemies become harder early on more mp is definetly a good thing.

[Sonomaa]

right now my pt setup is vaan with dagger, fran with bow (Ill get you back killer bow, if its the last meow I do!!11), balthier with gun or spear, and basch with sword. I shift balth and basch out a lot. Not sure what direction Im going with balth, he might be my ability whore, basch is becoming my PLD with steal. Fran is my rangermage. I use her for great damage on bow and nuking. going to flip her armor over to the mage stuff now that I can get her quickenings and power her MP up.

I did the attack up and HP up lisc areas, they have made a tremendous different, vaan went from 120 a stab with assassins dagger to 150s with 1 attack up, and 170s with the second attack up. I unlocked another gambit and set all 3 members to do ally: protect so they will put protect on as needed (set this at the bottom while your farming so youll cast protect after everything is dead and not waste MP.

Farming in the mines has been a significant source of money using my steal macro, the second double tracks can pop about 40 skeletons, stealing a bone chip from each one of those nets 193 gil each, so after each run where I go outside to reset mobs and treasure nets me close to 10k gil. Ive bought everything in that town possible and have 30k after several runs. Not stopping untill I have my killer bow back, level 15-16 so far, very fun to farm/grind too, got a good attack macro and I dont target jump thanks to everyones help.

[SamanosukeShiva]

I use Vaan, Balth, Basch in my PT. Now @lv19s

Just unlocked 3rd Basch's quickenings, the graphics looks really tight. 1shotted nearly all the bosses with quickenings combo =)

[Sonomaa]

the part I died in was to those 4 mamool guys further in the mines, didnt mean to walk into them, they mustve taken my killer bow ; ;

[Eaglestrike]

I go Vaan/Basch/Penelo, I like Penelo and it was either her or Ashe for healing (they both came precharged with some white magic iirc). I use a dagger/lightarmor on Vaan atm, polearm/heavy armor on Basch and currently a staff/mage armor on Penelo. I'm looking into a better weapon choice for Penelo though, what are her specialties again? Rods/staves? Do maces count? I may end up giving her a bow or something to stay in the backline, not sure.

I'm nearly capped on all the augmentation, I guess not nearly but most of my characters have all the blocks showing and like 80% filled up. Everyone has had a golden amulet since level 24ish. Currently passing through Salikawood at level 35s.

If anyone wishes to semi-spoil things for me, is there any point where I lose certain party members? I don't level the other 3 people at all, so I'd like to know if I'm going to get screwed having 1-3 underlvl'd naked members of my party lol

[Sonomaa]

whats with all the fran hate ; ; nobody likes the bunnykitty

[Po]

So like if you take your 3 characters to whatever level 30, and ignore the rest, they won't be level 30 when you pop them in like older FF's? I kinda like that system, and then you just equip them when/if you need to.
But that's not the system here eh? It seems like a good system, who the fuck wanted to level Caithsith? Not I. And it's not like he was ever useful, oh well.

[SathFenrir]

the part I died in was to those 4 mamool guys further in the mines, didnt mean to walk into them, they mustve taken my killer bow ; ;

First time through I did the same exact thing lol

I also had Vaan using a dagger like you do, but after lv 15ish I swapped him out for sword when I found one I liked (I use Ancient sword now)

I haven't had much luck with the melee/mage combo but I have Ashe in full mage gear, 3 MP cost down, 3 MAB+ and tons of other BLM stuff and she's an absolute beast. I honestly cant tank effectively with bausch or vaan cuz she's too brutal.

Penelo is my WHM, and an amazing one, but I only ever use her as a "oh shit" swap her in, cura / stona / etc etc (Cluckatrice hunt with 4 mobs spamming petrify and I entered it all DD, almost lost lol) but aside from that I don't use her for much. She has 80% of the WHM board unlocked, even spells I wont get til last dungeon probably.

And I still haven't found a bow or gun combo I like, so the rabbit and the french guy do not get used, WAY too slow.

[ghanima]

I haven't had much luck with the melee/mage combo but I have Ashe in full mage gear, 3 MP cost down, 3 MAB+ and tons of other BLM stuff and she's an absolute beast. I honestly cant tank effectively with bausch or vaan cuz she's too brutal.


When I got decoy (arcane magic, gives you lure status which is kind of like provoke+sirvente on one member) it was the best thing ever, gogo having Penelo and Fran nuke away and it never runs after them. I would set up usually: Self -> Decoy on whoever was my tanker or have one of the others do Ally:Basch -> Decoy.

[zymurgy]

If anyone wishes to semi-spoil things for me, is there any point where I lose certain party members? I don't level the other 3 people at all, so I'd like to know if I'm going to get screwed having 1-3 underlvl'd naked members of my party lol

Level all 6 characters equally...seriously. There have been so many fights where I just get slaughetered and have to bring in another char to take their place. They are all good characters...there is seriously no reason to not level all 6.

Oh and to the guy who is unlocking sword+ on vaan in an attempt to make his sword skill better or whatever, the licenses just make it so that you can actually use the items that are listed there in grey (they become white if you have one in your inventory). You shouldn't be bothering with unlocking such high level swords so early since you don't even have them yet. Focus on going south west on the north palette on all your chars. That's where the augments are. You get some pretty nice stuff like battle lore, shield block rate up (helps a lot), hp+, etc...

[Almaa]

I don't think it matters which characters get which quickenings... basically how I understand it, it's a super strong attack or spell or something and each character can unlock up to 3, so there are 18 on the board. They become a command in the battle menu like under mist or something, I haven't unlocked one yet either but I'm right next to two of them.

[Eaglestrike]

If anyone wishes to semi-spoil things for me, is there any point where I lose certain party members? I don't level the other 3 people at all, so I'd like to know if I'm going to get screwed having 1-3 underlvl'd naked members of my party lol

Level all 6 characters equally...seriously. There have been so many fights where I just get slaughetered and have to bring in another char to take their place. They are all good characters...there is seriously no reason to not level all 6.

Oh and to the guy who is unlocking sword+ on vaan in an attempt to make his sword skill better or whatever, the licenses just make it so that you can actually use the items that are listed there in grey (they become white if you have one in your inventory). You shouldn't be bothering with unlocking such high level swords so early since you don't even have them yet. Focus on going south west on the north palette on all your chars. That's where the augments are. You get some pretty nice stuff like battle lore, shield block rate up (helps a lot), hp+, etc...

Haha, my 2nd big judge fight at the mountain place I used all 20+ phoenix downs I had, all 6 characters, like 2 were alive at the end...and 3 of my guys are naked. I just can't fund it, I'm about to go farming at Pron Coast to be able to get the 3 people I use their best armor/weapons. I usually stay on top of hunts for the most part, unlocked everyone I could and completed about 80% of them so far but I am having gil troubles. I hardly have spells so I have no form of blm, just as much white magic I found use for and some green magic. Any good places to farm? The wolves that dropped the 1k+ to NPC blood was good but wondering if there is better.


So like if you take your 3 characters to whatever level 30, and ignore the rest, they won't be level 30 when you pop them in like older FF's? I kinda like that system, and then you just equip them when/if you need to.
But that's not the system here eh? It seems like a good system, who the fuck wanted to level Caithsith? Not I. And it's not like he was ever useful, oh well.

That's not exactly how other systems worked. Other systems the other characters would only level up after big cs's or something, or maybe at just a slower rate, in FF7 I know my Yuffie wasn't close to Cloud in levels.

The way the system works is you only get EXP if you're in the 3 man party fighting, but you get LP if you're in or not, so all characters can still learn new spells/abilities and equip better gear, they'll just be lower in hp/mp and other basic stats because of low level.

[Daegar]

Just a question for the more experienced people. I'm level 17 and just got my first esper but I am having serious MP problems. I run out of mp in nearly every long fight and it's cause me to die quite a few times. Is this normal or am I doing something wrong. I know that unlocking quickenings will increase it, but I've got one for most of my characters and don't want to have to go through a bunch of useless liscenses just to increase my mp unless I have to. Is there any other way to increase my mp or should I just suck it up and ignore the augementing liscenses for a while and just go straight for quickenings?

[Eaglestrike]

Just a question for the more experienced people. I'm level 17 and just got my first esper but I am having serious MP problems. I run out of mp in nearly every long fight and it's cause me to die quite a few times. Is this normal or am I doing something wrong. I know that unlocking quickenings will increase it, but I've got one for most of my characters and don't want to have to go through a bunch of useless liscenses just to increase my mp unless I have to. Is there any other way to increase my mp or should I just suck it up and ignore the augementing liscenses for a while and just go straight for quickenings?

Spend some time farming LP's. There are a few things to get:

Channeling- Reduces MP cost for spells.
Inquisitor - Gain mp when dealing damage.
Martyr - Gain mp when taking damage.

I didn't unlock quickenings until just recently so I just now have the mp boost. Some fights I would run out of mp on but also some others I wouldn't. I did a Ring Wyrm hunt and the fight was like 20 minutes long...but mp was fine the whole time because I was capped on the above things. Other mobs have higher damage output but yeah. I also have gambits running to spam pro/shell on my guys and debuffing bosses is awesome. Blind on that Wyrm was key because I had tried just before without getting blind (or using pro/shell) and I was dying and barely holding on. I was perfectly fine with pro/shell and blind on mob.

Farming LP's for a while can really really help. Also, Regen removes sap and effectively reverses it, I have Vaan cast that on anyone who falls below 80% hp and it works quite well.

Edit: Also +magicka power things to unlock via LP's that'll enhance your cures will save mp quite a bit too. I'm a fan of a dedicated healer so I have someone in mage gear that's doing most of my healing and her healing powers are awesome.

[archibaldcrane]

Weird question but, you can pop the NMs after killing them once? Like I just stole a 46dmg dagger from a NM wolf in eastern with a pt of lvl11s and ran but I want to know if I can pop again once I kill it to steal more.

I have this exact same question - can you repop NMs? (and which wolf was that? Which zone?...I could use a 46 dmg dagger)

[Viktor Vaughn]

THIS GAME MAKES MY PEEPEE HURT~~~~~~~~~

[Vixy]

Weird question but, you can pop the NMs after killing them once? Like I just stole a 46dmg dagger from a NM wolf in eastern with a pt of lvl11s and ran but I want to know if I can pop again once I kill it to steal more.

I have this exact same question - can you repop NMs? (and which wolf was that? Which zone?...I could use a 46 dmg dagger)

It's really good. I actually just stole another one and killed the NM this time with 15 party.

From GameFAQs:

Rare Monster No. 08/80

Name : Limble Wolf (307)

LP : 3
Drops : Wolf's Fur, Rare Fur
Steal : Gradius
Original : Worg Wolf
Rare Rank : **
Location : Dalmasca Westersand
Appearance : Get certain chain combo from killing the wolfs, from Rabanastre go
South of South-West to the small area can find it.



Enter from Rabanastre's Westgate to Westersand. In this area get a high chain of kills on the wolf and enter the area to the SW(I did it a few times with a chain of 10 or so and it worked). If its not there try to chain some more and reenter. Try stealing from it with full pt but let healer, well heal. I got it at 11 and vaan was hitting for 250-270. It hit things weak to aero for 2x that as well. I don't know if you can kill more then once but I left later after I got my first and tried poping again after it despawned and stole another for my other chars. Hope that helps. Gonna see if I can spawn it again after I killed it.

Edit: Just gave my new one to Basch... wow talk about being over powered for being able to get this at level 10ish.

[Lbelle]

Sonoma, I LOVE Fran. Her and Balthier and my absolute favorite characters after Penelo by faaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrr. I always try to use Fran in my parties, I think she owns so much.

[Daegar]

I like fran, my main party so far has been balthier, basch, and fran. On a related note are guns really that good, I gave balthier a pole and he seems to be doing much more damage then he was with a gun especially because he combo's so often.

[Eaglestrike]

I like fran, my main party so far has been balthier, basch, and fran. On a related note are guns really that good, I gave balthier a pole and he seems to be doing much more damage then he was with a gun especially because he combo's so often.

I hardly ever combo, anyone know if there is a reason for that? I almost never see it happen on normal mobs but it happens once in a blue moon. I've gotten as high as 4 hits, but only like twice total and only a few 2-3 hit ones.

I need to go NM hunting I guess >.> I also never steal, I'm thinking I should fix that.

[Lbelle]

Quick item question:

Random exp mobs wherever you go drop stones, magicite, bat fangs, wolf pelts, etc., etc.,

Should we sell all of that? Or later on is there a synthesis store that needs 85932529358029582 pieces of earth magicite and 58903458230952 wind stones?

[archibaldcrane]

Hahaha thanks Vixy, I got that Gladius. Holy shit does it own at level 12. That NM is mean, he whooped the shit out of my "Guest". I think...I might have to zone and repop it...and steal again...and zone and repop it and steal again.

Still, if you kill an NM, can you repop it? Or only this steal/zone/repop/steal thing? Anyone know?

[Vixy]

Hahaha thanks Vixy, I got that Gladius. Holy shit does it own at level 12. That NM is mean, he whooped the shit out of my "Guest". I think...I might have to zone and repop it...and steal again...and zone and repop it and steal again.

Still, if you kill an NM, can you repop it? Or only this steal/zone/repop/steal thing? Anyone know?

Trying to now ;x

[Vile]

I like fran, my main party so far has been balthier, basch, and fran. On a related note are guns really that good, I gave balthier a pole and he seems to be doing much more damage then he was with a gun especially because he combo's so often.

The way I have him set up @24 with best available gun + wyrmfire Shot balthier was doing 1k+ to toads and turtles in Giza (Wadi weather) and around 600 to mobs who weren't weak to fire. His crits are 1hit KOs. Downside is the lack of combos. With light armor and swiftness he isn't as slow as he was at the start though.

Guns also ignore target defense which is nice. He currently does more physical dmg than all my other characters who are all the same//one level apart from him.

[Vixy]

Just chained 8 or so wolfs and tried to pop again. Success =)

[Skyylya]

so i decided to restart cause i figured there were somet things i wanted different, and i should restart beforei get to far (was only just getting to sky city).

How hard does the lindbur wolf hit for, im lvl 4, almost 5 right now about to kill thextera but while getting a high chain on wolves beforehand i popped the NM wolf. What are my chances of survival for stealing then running away before it kills me with 200 hp and the first armor?

Also, any chance we could start an NM compilation in addition to this wolf, i've only seen like 3 NM's. A pugil in the water ways, a marlboro king in the water way's, this wolf and i think one more that i can't remember. By compilation i mean where, how to pop, drop, steal. I haven't seen any websites with much more than a walkthrough with spoilers which i don't want.

[Vixy]

so i decided to restart cause i figured there were somet things i wanted different, and i should restart beforei get to far (was only just getting to sky city).

How hard does the lindbur wolf hit for, im lvl 4, almost 5 right now about to kill thextera but while getting a high chain on wolves beforehand i popped the NM wolf. What are my chances of survival for stealing then running away before it kills me with 200 hp and the first armor?

Also, any chance we could start an NM compilation in addition to this wolf, i've only seen like 3 NM's. A pugil in the water ways, a marlboro king in the water way's, this wolf and i think one more that i can't remember. By compilation i mean where, how to pop, drop, steal. I haven't seen any websites with much more than a walkthrough with spoilers which i don't want.

It starts with a 300 or so dmg small aoe around it. Could get screwed on the stealing. Took me about 10 or so steals to get first time and about 2 or 3 the 2nd time. Was only able to get at 11 cause it was busy killing guest and other 2 people and I hardly made it out alive.

[Sonomaa]

Just chained 8 or so wolfs and tried to pop again. Success =)

so yes you can repop NMs? yayayyay

[GRT]

lol just saw this thread cuz i never really look at the sticky ones...

too lazy to go through all the pages but have there been people crying about the bullshit requirement for the easy way to obtain the strongest lance yet? XD

remember when i found out of it and was like wtf it actually needs you to NOT open treasure pots? :evil:


edit: oh yah, why are you guys using crapy weapons? there are monsters at every point of the game that can drop real advanced weapons that can last for like 15 lvls... like at lv10ish you can use quickening combos to kill those two wolfmen on giza plains which can drop a attack+50 katana that basically can two shot any normal monster you can come across til you are like lv25 or something

and having played ff11 i thought we'd all gotten patient enough to tolerate the low drop rate farming sessions XD

[Skyylya]

how many chains did you all need for the wolf, i just watched him spawn on my chain 20, same spot as the first time i saw him.

[archibaldcrane]

Just chained 8 or so wolfs and tried to pop again. Success =)

so yes you can repop NMs? yayayyay

So....Vixy you've killed this wolf, then repopped?

[Neosutra]

lol just saw this thread cuz i never really look at the sticky ones...

too lazy to go through all the pages but have there been people crying about the bullshit requirement for the easy way to obtain the strongest lance yet? XD

remember when i found out of it and was like wtf it actually needs you to NOT open treasure pots? :evil:


edit: oh yah, why are you guys using crapy weapons? there are monsters at every point of the game that can drop real advanced weapons that can last for like 15 lvls... like at lv10ish you can use quickening combos to kill those two wolfmen on giza plains which can drop a attack+50 katana that basically can two shot any normal monster you can come across til you are like lv25 or something

and having played ff11 i thought we'd all gotten patient enough to tolerate the low drop rate farming sessions XD

I think most people didnt really know about all the non-hunt based NMs and what they dropped till recently, and i havent really seen a compilation of them myself.

[archibaldcrane]

http://db.gamefaqs.com/console/ps2/file ... 0_rare.txt (http://db.gamefaqs.com/console/ps2/file/final_fantasy_xii_80_rare.txt)

Compilation of NMs, what is stolen/dropped.

Only problem is it's Japanese translation, so most of the NM names are wrong. Somewhat useful though.

[Vixy]

Just chained 8 or so wolfs and tried to pop again. Success =)

so yes you can repop NMs? yayayyay

So....Vixy you've killed this wolf, then repopped?

Yep. And I killed like 15 of those lvl 20 wolfmen and they didn't drop any katanas.

[Neosutra]

http://db.gamefaqs.com/console/ps2/file ... 0_rare.txt (http://db.gamefaqs.com/console/ps2/file/final_fantasy_xii_80_rare.txt)

Compilation of NMs, what is stolen/dropped.

Only problem is it's Japanese translation, so most of the NM names are wrong. Somewhat useful though.

Thanx!

Oh, side question to everyone:

Anyone else lost all erge to play 11..?

I mean, good story, good graphics, awesome fights. Perhaps in a few months, but ive started to develop a growing apathy toward logging onto ff11 now that 12 is out..

[Necronus]

Sonomaa: There are 30 NMs which are one time pops. The remainder can repop.

LBelle: You can sell all loot (well, save Teleport Stones) without fear. Basically selling them IS the synth system. All loot sold to ANY store is recorded by the game. Whenever you meet the requirements, a Bazaar item will appear. Some are little kits, as I've no doubt you've got already, some are normal items/equip at lower price, and some are Bazaar only rare items.

I personally consider the "Bazaar Only" items to be the true "synths" of FFXII.

So, selling everything you own at the magic shop today in Rabanastre then tomorrow selling new loot in Giza Plains all goes into one overall "pool" towards generating those bazaars. No need to worry about where you sold things.

[Eaglestrike]

Gambit Foe: HP > 70% -> Steal = money

Also, high chains are amazing for drops. I was chaining some wolves (these seem to be the bees of FFXI...) and at 10ish+ I would get 1 quality hide almost every kill with the occasional 2, once I got 30+ I started getting 2 often and sometimes 3 of them at a time, and more teleport stones = <3

[Vobent]

But things like the serpent skin are needed to get the barheim key. So be carfull on what you do sell.
To my knowlage theres no way to get those back

[GRT]

Just chained 8 or so wolfs and tried to pop again. Success =)

so yes you can repop NMs? yayayyay

So....Vixy you've killed this wolf, then repopped?

Yep. And I killed like 15 of those lvl 20 wolfmen and they didn't drop any katanas.

you only need 3 or 4 hits on the combo to kill one, and yah the drop rate is pretty low, i think i killed like 40 something and that one dropped two (because of chain bonus)

and the NMs drop nice stuff, true, but non-NMs also drop good stuff too, like those wolfmen aren't NMs, and there are other monsters like where you first see chocobos (after passing through rain season giza plains i think?) the birdmans in the area can drop a higher tier katana, and that non-aggressive dinosaur just outside town to the east can drop golden helmet or something, can't remember exactly

[archibaldcrane]

Sonomaa: There are 30 NMs which are one time pops.

What kind of NMs are these? Like Firemane and Mimic Queen - "Bosses" which are part of the main storyline? Or are you talking about "Rare Game" (as they're called in the Bestiary)?

[Skyylya]

I've been out chaining hyena's just to see how high a chain i can get, i've been getting abilities from high chains, i got shell once and just got protect. Anyone else get other bonus' from high chain numbers?

at 54 right now on hyena's.

Edit: items cap at 99, although they'll still drop. I stopped just after 100, didnt get any special bonus and hyena's don't exactly have a good loot pool. 99 wolf pelts and 99 fire stones and just about lvl 7 and i haven't even gotten the sunstone yet, heh.

[Lbelle]

I'm level 22ish and at Miriam's Shrine...and there are 3 dragon ass-raping things that like to kill me...

Should I just level level level, and then level some more to try to kill these fuckers, or am I doing something wrong? Inferno barely scratched 'em.

[Almaa]

whats with all the fran hate ; ; nobody likes the bunnykitty

I love Fran and I think her voice/accent is the shit

[Vobent]

Everytime I hear frans voice without seeing her (demon wall) I keep thinking its Larsa

[Neosutra]

I'm level 22ish and at Miriam's Shrine...and there are 3 dragon ass-raping things that like to kill me...

Should I just level level level, and then level some more to try to kill these fuckers, or am I doing something wrong? Inferno barely scratched 'em.

Quickening Combos!

[Skyylya]

roughly where are the mist's on the grid? I've only found the one just above the first white magic area.

[Neosutra]

roughly where are the mist's on the grid? I've only found the one just above the first white magic area.


http://home.comcast.net/~jhunwung/LicenseGrid.png

[blister1]

The wolves that dropped the 1k+ to NPC blood was good but wondering if there is better.

Where are these? (I'm at the airship where you rescue Ashe for the first time) the best money maker I've found so far were the bones in the Mines, went back up there after Lamont left with a group of 3 and got raped rather horribly :lol:

[Helpoemer]

1.yes you can repop NMs, you just have to exit to an area that isn't directly connected by a zoneline with the area the NM is in.

2. the "One-time" NMs are Rare Game Trophy Monsters, you don't need to worry about those till later in the game.

3. Keep the skin from the Nidhogg mob hunt for barheim key quest

4. keep at least 1 of each loot item you ever get except teleport stones and gysahl greens (stock up on these)

5. around page 12+ read my guide on one of the best swords you can get at an early part of the game ;o it really does make a difference

6. guns ignore defense, that's the upside to them

7. there is one quickening license grid spot that is particularly hard to get cos before it is a 150LP armour spot and before that is a 100LP spot and before that is a few more expensive spots

[Vobent]

4. What are Gysahl greens for?

5. It's on page 10, first post.

[Helpoemer]

4. What are Gysahl greens for?

do you really have to ask? lol

[Sonomaa]

got mykiller bow eeeee
it crits for 500+, and randomly just drops an enemy dead, wheee

[Skyylya]

about your guide for that sword. I've been to that little village, and the ferry isn't running. When in the game are you referring to? I've already killed the flowered cactus and done as much of it as i can.

[Lbelle]

LOL LET'S MAKE A CRYSTAL THAT ATTACKS EVERYONE FOR OVER 9,0000000000000000000000000000000 and you have to kill it to be able to save, BUT LET'S ALSO make it the only save in the dungeon!!!!! HAHhkHDKSHAHSHAAHhahahahaahHAHhahaa

gg this game makes me so mad sometimes!

[Helpoemer]

about your guide for that sword. I've been to that little village, and the ferry isn't running. When in the game are you referring to? I've already killed the flowered cactus and done as much of it as i can.

you need to be done with the first part of the mines and cleared Nidhogg Mob Hunt too.

@Lbelle you must seriously be underlvld lol get some HP+ licenses =/

[Vobent]

4. What are Gysahl greens for?

do you really have to ask? lol

Well, then..how do I use them...I got a choco...and I tried everything

[Anyway]

LOL LET'S MAKE A CRYSTAL THAT ATTACKS EVERYONE FOR OVER 9,0000000000000000000000000000000 and you have to kill it to be able to save, BUT LET'S ALSO make it the only save in the dungeon!!!!! HAHhkHDKSHAHSHAAHhahahahaahHAHhahaa

gg this game makes me so mad sometimes!
Just use quickening combos on it and spam cura lol. Remember you'll get full hp/mp when you kill it so go all out.

[Lbelle]

LOL LET'S MAKE A CRYSTAL THAT ATTACKS EVERYONE FOR OVER 9,0000000000000000000000000000000 and you have to kill it to be able to save, BUT LET'S ALSO make it the only save in the dungeon!!!!! HAHhkHDKSHAHSHAAHhahahahaahHAHhahaa

gg this game makes me so mad sometimes!
Just use quickening combos on it and spam cura lol. Remember you'll get full hp/mp when you kill it so go all out.

haha I used pretty much ALL my mana on those dragons in the previous room, so I had NONE to use on this fight. It was kind of epic. I had one phoenix down left, and so I just ran in circles until I had enough mp to raise/cure everyone...then I went in and raped it.

But, I think having a damage-dealing save point sucks!!!

[Helpoemer]

4. What are Gysahl greens for?

do you really have to ask? lol

Well, then..how do I use them...I got a choco...and I tried everything

it's for the NPC ones roaming around in some areas, more often that not you have to use them for something or access somewhere

[Koul]

bleh... so I should've kept that Electrum and Arcana montblanc gave me...?!

[Helpoemer]

bleh... so I should've kept that Electrum and Arcana montblanc gave me...?!

if it was great arcana, then you probably should've to save you time farming for other items to make one (cos you forgot that you sold one before)

[Vobent]

Ah, well that's why I didn't know..havn't seen a wild chocobo that isn't beating my ass in.

[Eaglestrike]

LOL LET'S MAKE A CRYSTAL THAT ATTACKS EVERYONE FOR OVER 9,0000000000000000000000000000000 and you have to kill it to be able to save, BUT LET'S ALSO make it the only save in the dungeon!!!!! HAHhkHDKSHAHSHAAHhahahahaahHAHhahaa

gg this game makes me so mad sometimes!
Just use quickening combos on it and spam cura lol. Remember you'll get full hp/mp when you kill it so go all out.

haha I used pretty much ALL my mana on those dragons in the previous room, so I had NONE to use on this fight. It was kind of epic. I had one phoenix down left, and so I just ran in circles until I had enough mp to raise/cure everyone...then I went in and raped it.

But, I think having a damage-dealing save point sucks!!!

You're VERY VERY underlvl'd or something...those crystalbugs were nothing. Save a few boss fights I've had no problem in most situations. Up to level 39 now and just finished a first visit to Archadia. I don't spend a LOT of time lvling up but I've probably gotten a few levels doing so. I usually kill most mobs in a dungeon (for the drops lol) and only run from annoying mobs (so far I can't stand flying mobs, probably because I have no rangers...) since I got steal going I'll probably ignore some more mobs as I don't need to farm, though.

Oh yeah, I remember those dragons now. If you think those were a problem, you'll probably have more trouble at an undead boss closer to the end of that shrine area. I forget which gave me more trouble but I remember running out to that save point to replenish hp/mp after that one, it's right before the big boss fight too. You should probably get 4-5 levels and head SW for +hp bonus' and channeling and such.

[SathFenrir]

I hate NM drops.

I think I have better luck on parade gorget than I do on drops in this game, and I'm 0/15 on Gorget.

I've killed NM That you need to chain 100 to in desert twice (0/2 drop GKT) chain 20 mob 3x (0/3) random bomb mob, mini desert turtle, and basically all the other NMs.

I really want that GKT its beastly, but keeping chain 100 goin with other mobs around + a lv45 NM wandering around you (im lv21ish) is not the easiest / funnest thing in the world.

Someone give me a Thief's Knife.


Or advice...advice works too.

[Ace-o-fire]

Everytime I hear frans voice without seeing her (demon wall) I keep thinking its Larsa

i do the same, Though im stuck on that freaking wall and grinding on though little hood things pisses me off.

[Eaglestrike]

Everytime I hear frans voice without seeing her (demon wall) I keep thinking its Larsa

i do the same, Though im stuck on that freaking wall and grinding on though little hood things pisses me off.

Get the Immune: Blind accessory, makes the wall easy.

[SathFenrir]

Everytime I hear frans voice without seeing her (demon wall) I keep thinking its Larsa

i do the same, Though im stuck on that freaking wall and grinding on though little hood things pisses me off.

Wall gave me trouble first two times, then what I did was took my 2 naked characters (frenchie and bunny) and took their like 600+ saved LP and just plowed through to 2 quickening each for them.

Did an 11 hit quick. combo vaan > ashe > penelo then swapped ashe and peneloe for frenchie and bunny then did a 9 hit combo (vaan got back in on it somehow lol) and when I was done it was dead.

This was the first wall, didn't know the 2nd wall was gonna be RIGHT after, got it to 1% w/o any MP or quickenings before it killed me, no save either. le sigh.

[Lbelle]

You're VERY VERY underlvl'd or something...those crystalbugs were nothing. Save a few boss fights I've had no problem in most situations. Up to level 39 now and just finished a first visit to Archadia. I don't spend a LOT of time lvling up but I've probably gotten a few levels doing so. I usually kill most mobs in a dungeon (for the drops lol) and only run from annoying mobs (so far I can't stand flying mobs, probably because I have no rangers...) since I got steal going I'll probably ignore some more mobs as I don't need to farm, though.


Eh I think the reason I had such a hard time was because I had no mana left whatsoever in my entire party to heal, or do pretty much anything else. If I had had full hp/mana it would've been a snap hehe. But still, maybe I am underleveled. I have a level 19-25 team.

[Ace-o-fire]

Everytime I hear frans voice without seeing her (demon wall) I keep thinking its Larsa

i do the same, Though im stuck on that freaking wall and grinding on though little hood things pisses me off.

Wall gave me trouble first two times, then what I did was took my 2 naked characters (frenchie and bunny) and took their like 600+ saved LP and just plowed through to 2 quickening each for them.

Did an 11 hit quick. combo vaan > ashe > penelo then swapped ashe and peneloe for frenchie and bunny then did a 9 hit combo (vaan got back in on it somehow lol) and when I was done it was dead.

This was the first wall, didn't know the 2nd wall was gonna be RIGHT after, got it to 1% w/o any MP or quickenings before it killed me, no save either. le sigh.

Does it matter what Quickings you give to people?

[SathFenrir]

no

[Eaglestrike]

You're VERY VERY underlvl'd or something...those crystalbugs were nothing. Save a few boss fights I've had no problem in most situations. Up to level 39 now and just finished a first visit to Archadia. I don't spend a LOT of time lvling up but I've probably gotten a few levels doing so. I usually kill most mobs in a dungeon (for the drops lol) and only run from annoying mobs (so far I can't stand flying mobs, probably because I have no rangers...) since I got steal going I'll probably ignore some more mobs as I don't need to farm, though.


Eh I think the reason I had such a hard time was because I had no mana left whatsoever in my entire party to heal, or do pretty much anything else. If I had had full hp/mana it would've been a snap hehe. But still, maybe I am underleveled. I have a level 19-25 team.

I think my 3 characters were upper 20's at this point. But my Balthier is level 9, Fran level 13 and Ashe level 15, lol. I'll level them in a bit, once my gil catches up to buy rest of my spells/monograms and gear them up >.>

[Takeno]

What wall are you all talking about? Is it in the mines where your guest is Lamont? The little kid?

[Falconblade]

What wall are you all talking about? Is it in the mines where your guest is Lamont? The little kid?

In the tomb. 2 Psuedo-Bosses.

[Lbelle]

Maybe the reason I'm having so much trouble is because I'm using every character instead of sticking with a set three. It seems as though everyone else has a "team" set up and always uses those three people for every single situation. This would obviously allow for more exp gain to those three, and higher levels.

I like having all of my people around the same level though, just incase shit hits the fan! :)

[Falconblade]

Maybe the reason I'm having so much trouble is because I'm using every character instead of sticking with a set three. It seems as though everyone else has a "team" set up and always uses those three people for every single situation. This would obviously allow for more exp gain to those three, and higher levels.

I like having all of my people around the same level though, just incase shit hits the fan! :)

Everyone gets Licence points, regardless whether or not you're in the actual party, so there really isnt much need to level others. For Oh shit moments they will still be there, able to help. not as much, but thanks to Licences, they wont absolutely suck.

[Takeno]

Takeno wrote:
What wall are you all talking about? Is it in the mines where your guest is Lamont? The little kid?


In the tomb. 2 Psuedo-Bosses.

But is the L Mines where you fight the walls? yes no? I see skeletons but not sure what u mean by the tomb.

[Falconblade]

Takeno wrote:
What wall are you all talking about? Is it in the mines where your guest is Lamont? The little kid?


In the tomb. 2 Psuedo-Bosses.

But is the L Mines where you fight the walls? yes no? I see skeletons but not sure what u mean by the tomb.

If you dont know what I mean, you're not there yet. You'll know when you're near it.

If you REALLY want to know, its King Rockwells(?) Tomb. Whole seperate area, diffrent part of story.

[Toralyn]

Raithwell.

Where the fuck can I buy Golden Hairpins? -.- I'm in Rabanastre Lowtown at the moment and neither of the merchants are selling them.

[Helpoemer]

one tactic i use for tough boss fights (ie Espers) is get my seriously underlvld characters (like lvl 20 compared to my lvl 60+ PT) and have them continuously quickening combo and magic burst till they take off about 1/2 HP (yes quickenings still do high damage from low lvl characters against high lvl mobs). then when they die i just switch my stronger PT in and take care of the rest of the HP

[Toralyn]

Hey Sonomaa, that Killer Bow you sought after for so long? I'm doing Rocktoise hunt right now, stopped at a treasure and got it 8)

edit: Holy shit it's Aspid. He's even uncamped like Aspid!

[SathFenrir]

that aspid is a bitch, I was having trouble at lv 20

careful!

XD

Edit:

Got bored of KRT, warped back to Rabenastre, just killed that T-Rex in the eastersands for the first time.

Revenge is sweet lol.

[Toralyn]

Nah, I'm 28-29. I just went back to do hunts I forgot to do earlier while passing time. I'm at Fran's homeland in the story.

[Epical]

I like having all of my people around the same level though, just incase shit hits the fan! :)
Well shit is hitting the fan and it's not working lol.

One thing I'm having trouble understanding is magic (the actual learning of spells) and limit breaks. First, I don't even remembering buying/finding a scroll of cure anywhere and all of a sudden my party can use it. Same goes for protect/blind/fire, so I assume it's learned by... level? Now, as for the limit breaks, I haven't read one thing about them so far, nor can I find any sort of limit bar. =\ Are FF12's LBs = "quickenings"?

Another thing I've noticed is that you can't really keep certain characters melee-onry without gimping yourself. Eventually everyone will be an MP-user whether you're a heavy-armor-rng or not. I keep forgetting there are no gimp SJs that are getting you this MP. =P

Fking Spanish midterm tomorrow so I can't play tonight. :evil: I'll probably waste the entire night on these forums instead of studying so it'll justify not playing, when really I'm just being as unproductive as possible right now. =\

[Eaglestrike]

I like having all of my people around the same level though, just incase shit hits the fan! :)
Well shit is hitting the fan and it's not working lol.

One thing I'm having trouble understanding is magic (the actual learning of spells) and limit breaks. First, I don't even remembering buying/finding a scroll of cure anywhere and all of a sudden my party can use it. Same goes for protect/blind/fire, so I assume it's learned by... level? Now, as for the limit breaks, I haven't read one thing about them so far, nor can I find any sort of limit bar. =\ Are FF12's LBs = "quickenings"?

Another thing I've noticed is that you can't really keep certain characters melee-onry without gimping yourself. Eventually everyone will be an MP-user whether you're a heavy-armor-rng or not. I keep forgetting there are no gimp SJs that are getting you this MP. =P

Fking Spanish midterm tomorrow so I can't play tonight. :evil: I'll probably waste the entire night on these forums instead of studying so it'll justify not playing, when really I'm just being as unproductive as possible right now. =\

Spells (And techniks) you have to learn through License points AND buy the scroll. Most likely you got a member of your party who knew the spell already and they brought that scroll with them, so to speak, which is why you know a few of them.

I actually don't have Libra (at level 41 lol) because I never bought it from the store >.> Can't find a store with one, probably going to teleport back to Rabanastre cause it is probably there.

And Lbelle, if you're going to level all characters 'in case shit hits the fan' you should be doing EXTRA lvling so your characters don't fall behind in level like they currently are :P

[Skyylya]

I know i'm way behind most of you, but i just killed the t-rex at lvl 10 and got 1k experience. Gonna zone to repop him a few times and see if i can't use that to get some easy xp.

[Eaglestrike]

I know i'm way behind most of you, but i just killed the t-rex at lvl 10 and got 1k experience. Gonna zone to repop him a few times and see if i can't use that to get some easy xp.

It's easier exp killing other mobs (and more LP) because you don't have to zone to kill them. Just progress in the story if you've just been grinding. I really don't get why everyone seems to be grinding here, it's like FFXI completely fucked with your heads. I grind when I need gil/LP for my next upgrades, otherwise I keep going through with the game >.>

And Takeno, the wall is in KRT you n00b mnk.

[SathFenrir]

Update to the list of NM drops I haven't gotten (including steal spam)

0/1 on the gladius NM
0/2 on Aerieel

[Anyway]

What wall are you all talking about? Is it in the mines where your guest is Lamont? The little kid?

In the tomb. 2 Psuedo-Bosses.
lol, are you lighting the torch things? They stop the wall for like 5 seconds each.

[Epical]

Hmm, just thought of something... can Assassin's Blade proc on a boss? That would really, really own.

[Vile]

Rank III Ring Wyrm is a dirty whore.

[Koul]

I don't think the KO effect can proc on bosses but whenever I was fighting Wary Wolf (lvl 35ish mob) I insta-killed him with my sword so the KO shizz works on NMs

Golden Amulet thing:
and if you're to the point where you got the dawn jewel thing you can run to the safe point in Masphosfer Highwaste and buy em there... to get there you ride the ferry to the northern sectio of the Estersands then just keep hiking north

that's where I'm getting mine

[Toralyn]

I don't think the KO effect can proc on bosses but whenever I was fighting Wary Wolf (lvl 35ish mob) I insta-killed him with my sword so the KO shizz works on NMs

Golden Amulet thing:
and if you're to the point where you got the dawn jewel thing you can run to the safe point in Masphosfer Highwaste and buy em there... to get there you ride the ferry to the northern sectio of the Estersands then just keep hiking north

that's where I'm getting mine

Sweet, thanks. Gonna burn my last teleport stone to go back for my hike.

[Ithorien]

Decided to delete and post in here, seems to be a more popular topic :D

I had a nice legit question- when I got Penelo into my party the first time, I had Vaan at level 4. She joined the party, and while she was a little lower on the exp, she was at lvl 4.

So my question is: Do other characters progress while you do? As in, if I level Vaan to lvl 8 and I get Penelo back into my pt, will she be lvl 8 as well?

[Takeno]

Where does Gladius NM pop?

[Epical]

Decided to delete and post in here, seems to be a more popular topic :D

I had a nice legit question- when I got Penelo into my party the first time, I had Vaan at level 4. She joined the party, and while she was a little lower on the exp, she was at lvl 4.

So my question is: Do other characters progress while you do? As in, if I level Vaan to lvl 8 and I get Penelo back into my pt, will she be lvl 8 as well?
No. When new characters join your party, they are around the level you should be, or the enemies become fair game. For instance when Balth/Fran joined, they were level 9 or something, and Vaan was level 8 at the time.

Lets say you don't touch Balth/Fran until you beat the game, they'll still be level 9 and you'll be level 100 (or whenever this game caps).

[Skyylya]

2 posts up - Yes, before i got Penelo first time i was lvl 8, when she joined so was she, however i think this only is the case the first time you meet someone. I've played through the beginning twice, both times my guest's were different levels compared to what i was, except for basch, he was lvl 12 both times i got him the first time.

1 post up. Go to the westersand, chain 20 wolves, with the 20th being in the small area in the northeast section where the two wolves are and he'll spawn right after you get the chain 20 on wolves.

When you spawn him you gotta steal it from him, it's kinda random. first one i got was on like the 6th try, 2nd one took like 20+ steal try's and the 3rd one i got was on first try. Balthier was the one who stole the first two and basch the last one. Vaan missed every time. (these are the 3 i'm using.) If you don't do it, and his opening move hurts you, just zone out, heal yourself then zone back in and try again, he won't depop if you don't zone out to far.

I just got 3 gladius for my party, all around lvl 11-12 :)

[Sonomaa]

Hey Sonomaa, that Killer Bow you sought after for so long? I'm doing Rocktoise hunt right now, stopped at a treasure and got it 8)

edit: Holy shit it's Aspid. He's even uncamped like Aspid!

except I got it at like level 11ish (then died and got it again) so you can get it kinda early

[SathFenrir]

So I just bought Berserk..

Used it on the second wall, no quickenings or anything, 2 berserked players = dead in under 15 seconds.

I'm in love.

[Lbelle]

Can you buy tele stones?

[Vixy]

Can you buy tele stones? Go to the vendor on the airship.

[Brandson]

From the Dalmasca Eastersand Gate Crystal, go South, then turn to South-East,
there is a small area, use your Barheim Key to unlock that door to enter Barheim Passage.


Now, go to the small area on the map with the Gate Crystal and save, from there go to the south (Great Central Passage), then west and take the LOWER path to the "Special Op Sector 5" area, in this area are pretty high lvl monsters at this point, but you don't need to fight them so flee past them all and past the turtle there is a rock next to the rail tracks, near this rock is usually one of those frog monsters. Behind this rock there is a chance for a SILVER chest to be there with a purple center, careful cos this is a Rare Monster, but it's the one we want for our weapon. If it's not there, just zone back to Great Central Passage and go to the upper path (East-West Bypass) to the west, then enter back into Special Op Sector 5 and keep doing this till it shows up.

Now, you should have been fleeing past the other monsters to get here, briefly let go of flee to pop the chest to make the Rare Monster appear, flee and take it to the zone where you came from (the Rare Monster won't stop following you, but the other monsters will).
heal yourself from the damage and go back in, the Rare Monster will still be near the zone line and this is when we get our weapon.
Set all your characters to STEAL STEAL STEAL, eventually you will get the Deathbringer (1h Sword 90ATK On Hit: Death).


This is a great tip for money-making early on (my party ranges in level from 14 to 20). Not only can you steal this sword, but there are also 3-4 other chests in the room that all have up to 3k gil in them (usually 1-2k each). If you repop those chests while you're doing this, it's easy to get around 5k each time. I'm using this to buy up some Lores right now. Thanks!

[Eaglestrike]

I don't think the KO effect can proc on bosses but whenever I was fighting Wary Wolf (lvl 35ish mob) I insta-killed him with my sword so the KO shizz works on NMs

Golden Amulet thing:
and if you're to the point where you got the dawn jewel thing you can run to the safe point in Masphosfer Highwaste and buy em there... to get there you ride the ferry to the northern sectio of the Estersands then just keep hiking north

that's where I'm getting mine

Sweet, thanks. Gonna burn my last teleport stone to go back for my hike.

After you do the first part in bunnyville the moogle there sells them too. Earliest you can get one is by doing the Enkelados hunt.

I totally didn't know you could buy stones anywhere until the item vendor in Balfonheim near that gate crystal was selling >.> I was holding back on hunts so I didn't run out of teleport stones for so long <.<

[Silka]

I totally didn't know you could buy stones anywhere until the item vendor in Balfonheim near that gate crystal was selling >.> I was holding back on hunts so I didn't run out of teleport stones for so long <.<

I kinda did the same thing- can steal them pretty easily from bats so I'd go farm them up if I wanted to port around... then I just decided to play around on the airship and there they were selling some. ._. They had some hi pots I was desperately low on too. >_>; Had been looking for them since the Clan's bazaar stopped selling them ; ;

I just got the special strat guide today- (Balthier cover <3 Kinda wanted Basch but I'm happy with it) that art book is suppossed to come out of that box right? >_>; Mine is stuck or something- already screwed up the spine trying to pull it out xD I'm gonna feel dumb if it's not suppossed to come out though. ;P

[Eaglestrike]

Rank III Ring Wyrm is a dirty whore.

He took a while to kill, I finally killed him after I put in Gambits to keep pro/shell on and put in a regen gambit (anyone hit with sap after being taken below 80% will have regen cast on them, it removes sap and gives regen) The key to this guy for me was Blind though, it helped a lot. Lowering his damage output let me deal more damage, he started spamming breath at low health but it was ok.

Also, for some people farther along, when was the lowest you beat Vyraal? (he's a hunt) I just did at 41 and I'm feeling proud and cocky, someone knock me down saying they beat it at 23 or something, thanks.

[deviousone]

Just to touch up on the Mist Quickenings from 3-4 pages ago, yeah they cost a lot of MP but through my progression of the game (to the end) i noticed they helped A LOT. Lots of bosses and Mob Hunt mobs in this game go into Berserk mode towards the last 25%, where your attacks do half the dmg, and the mob themselves start doing huge dmg, Mist Quickenings can really ease that situation if you can get a nice Chain Combo going.

May be spoiler, its about one of the mob hunt mobs: A good example is the Morbol Mob Hunt, Carrot. He spams his many breathes to the point whoever has hate will be killed. Mist Quickening after he gets to his spam phaze = death2u Carrot.

Of course if your characters are overlvl'd for whatever fight, it doesn't matter. But wheres the fun in this game with over lvl'd characters?

[SathFenrir]

I just popped Velius for the first time as a summon, I didn't notice any timer or anything, all I noticed was extreme over-poweredness.

How long do they stay out? :x

+++

Any endgame worthy GKTs? Just got Kotetsu and I'm all nostalgic lol (SAM was first job to 75 waaaay back in the day)

[Lbelle]

I just popped Velius for the first time as a summon, I didn't notice any timer or anything, all I noticed was extreme over-poweredness.

How long do they stay out? :x

+++

Any endgame worthy GKTs? Just got Kotetsu and I'm all nostalgic lol (SAM was first job to 75 waaaay back in the day)

They stay out until they die, or until their summoner dies. And if they get critical HP they do their "ultimate" move, which does a lot of damage to whatever it's fighting, but it also makes the summon die too.

[MisterBob]

I just popped Velius for the first time as a summon, I didn't notice any timer or anything, all I noticed was extreme over-poweredness.

How long do they stay out? :x

+++

Any endgame worthy GKTs? Just got Kotetsu and I'm all nostalgic lol (SAM was first job to 75 waaaay back in the day)

They stay out until they die, or until their summoner dies. And if they get critical HP they do their "ultimate" move, which does a lot of damage to whatever it's fighting, but it also makes the summon die too.

Actually there are many different things that trigger moves on different Espers. Some of the early ones are Critical HP, yes. However, many are not. Zodiark will trigger when the summoner is petrified, Ultima will trigger when both the summoner AND the Esper are in critical, Exodus triggers when he is Critical + Immobilized, etc etc.

[Lbelle]

Is there a way I can make absolutely sure that my quickenings will AOE instead of targeting just one thing? By targetting just one hting I got royally fucked over on the Shrine boss...

Maybe this game is too hard for me :cry:

[SathFenrir]

Unconfirmed::::

but what I've noticed, is to make it burst (AoE) if you're doin 3 way combo have to at least all use 1 of the same level once, like say you start off with pyrochasm (lv3) and ashe uses lv 3 but basch doesnt lv3, i dont think it will burst.

I've had 7 hit combos that didnt burst cuz of the above, I cant be 100% sure though.

[Koul]

I was kinda let down with the Quickenings... they all kinda look the same-ish =/

well I've only seen Balthiers, ashes and penelos so... those three look the same-kinda-ish only their lvl 1 ones too

[deviousone]

Any endgame worthy GKTs? Just got Kotetsu and I'm all nostalgic lol (SAM was first job to 75 waaaay back in the day)

Yeah the final GKT is pretty nice if you equip it on someone with Mystic Armor and such, since GKT dmg is based on Magic Attack.


They stay out until they die, or until their summoner dies. And if they get critical HP they do their "ultimate" move, which does a lot of damage to whatever it's fighting, but it also makes the summon die too.

There actually is time for how long a summon can be out. If your summon is out too long you'll get a big "TIMES UP" screen if the crystal like things at the bottom of the screen go out.


Is there a way I can make absolutely sure that my quickenings will AOE instead of targeting just one thing? By targetting just one hting I got royally fucked over on the Shrine boss...

Usually if not; 100% of the time, if your Combo is 7+ hits your combo will make a Elemental burst and it will be AoE. So its all in the luck/how much MP your characters are starting with in the Quickening combo/how fast you can click R2 to shift for more chances of Mist.

[SathFenrir]

GKT based on MAB to the point where I'm doing 300 a swing on 32 MAB, switch to 46 MAB mage and it would be more worthwhile? don't want to waste all the LP til I'm sure haha

[Skyylya]

when does the damn ferry to the north side of the river start working. I'm done with the first judge and have asche in my party. How much more do i have to do before i can finish doing the errand/quest for danto's wife?

[deviousone]

GKT based on MAB to the point where I'm doing 300 a swing on 32 MAB, switch to 46 MAB mage and it would be more worthwhile? don't want to waste all the LP til I'm sure haha

It won't be a huge improvement, but you'll definitely see your consistant dmg go up a bit with it. If your low on LP points and can't spend them on smaller things like Magic Attack, just wait til you get the Double LP bonus item before you dive into the lesser things.

[SathFenrir]

I actually just picked that item up and equipped it ^^

about 5 seconds before I zoned back into giza during the rains and a lv45 lightning bomb thundaga'd me for 2.5k all around.

mmmmm aggro.

[PyramidHead]

Requirements:
Black Hole: 4 lvl 1Quickenings, 4 lvl 2 Quickenings, 4 lvl 3 Quickenings
Whiteout: 3 lvl 1 Quickenings, 3 lvl 2 Quickenings, 3 lvl 3 Quickenings
Ark Blast: 2 lvl 1 Quickenings, 2 lvl 2 Quickenings, 2 lvl 3 Quickenings
Luminescence: 5 lvl 3 Quickenings
Windburst: 5 lvl 2 Quickenings
Torrent: 2 lvl 1 Quickenings, 3 lvl 2 Quickenings
Cataclysm: 7 lvl 1 Quickenings
Inferno: 3 lvl 1 Quickenings


Taken from the brady guide, haven't tried all of them out to test accuracy, but it seems about right.

[Skyylya]

Requirements:
Black Hole: 4 lvl 1Quickenings, 4 lvl 2 Quickenings, 4 lvl 3 Quickenings
Whiteout: 3 lvl 1 Quickenings, 3 lvl 2 Quickenings, 3 lvl 3 Quickenings
Ark Blast: 2 lvl 1 Quickenings, 2 lvl 2 Quickenings, 2 lvl 3 Quickenings
Luminescence: 5 lvl 3 Quickenings
Windburst: 5 lvl 2 Quickenings
Torrent: 2 lvl 1 Quickenings, 3 lvl 2 Quickenings
Cataclysm: 7 lvl 1 Quickenings
Inferno: 3 lvl 1 Quickenings


Taken from the brady guide, haven't tried all of them out to test accuracy, but it seems about right.

i've done inferno and torrent, and i did an ark blast when i killed aspid, it did about 19k dmg on him.

[SathFenrir]

I did a black hole on 1st wall in KRT, I couldn't begin to guess the damage the burst did :\


***********************************

anyone know what makes weather change? going after the ring wyrm now

[deviousone]

I did a black hole on 1st wall in KRT, I couldn't begin to guess the damage the burst did :\


***********************************

anyone know what makes weather change? going after the ring wyrm now

Completely zoning in and out unless the weather has something to do with story plot (Giza Rains) Might take a few tries to get the weather you want.

[SathFenrir]

Ring Wyrm dead with all 26-27 party

(guy a few pages back said he wanted to know if anyone did it before 40 iirc)

'3'

That was one very long fight

[Vobent]

He wanted to know about Vyraal..
going after ring wyrm with a 20ish party..wish me luck

[izembo]

what is the great serpentskin for?

[Helpoemer]

what is the great serpentskin for?
barheim key quest, keep hold of it

[izembo]

k yea, just finally found out, and of course it has to be really far into the damn quest, orz

[SathFenrir]

How'd the lv 20 Tiamat (ring wyrm) go?

I had a hell of a fight at lv26-27 and I haven't shirked my LP or gears.

[Vobent]

I got it down to 20% before I gave up. I kept getting one-shotted with fire breath..and larsa died first thing..Doing the Gil Snapper now. Lost at like 4% due to it going shit crazy.

and when I tried the wyrm, i had like 700 LP to use..now I have less then 70 on all my characters he should be easy now

[Lbelle]

I don't understand how you guys are getting 11+ quickenings, I think I got 7 one time and freaked out. The bar at the bottom goes too fast for me to click to chain new people haha ;;

[SathFenrir]

I don't understand how you guys are getting 11+ quickenings, I think I got 7 one time and freaked out. The bar at the bottom goes too fast for me to click to chain new people haha ;;

7-9 I can handle ok, even at 3am.

Depending on my alertness (aka how long I've been playing straight) around 9-11 I mash triangle square circle and R2 repeatedly at the same time.

Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.

[Helpoemer]

I don't understand how you guys are getting 11+ quickenings, I think I got 7 one time and freaked out. The bar at the bottom goes too fast for me to click to chain new people haha ;;

it'll be easier once you get all the quickenings, also start off with a lvl1 quickening instead of lvl 3 ;o

[Vile]

Rank III Ring Wyrm is a dirty whore.

He took a while to kill, I finally killed him after I put in Gambits to keep pro/shell on and put in a regen gambit (anyone hit with sap after being taken below 80% will have regen cast on them, it removes sap and gives regen) The key to this guy for me was Blind though, it helped a lot. Lowering his damage output let me deal more damage, he started spamming breath at low health but it was ok.


Yeah I got him down to half health and then breath started to kill my mage characters. He also used restore which seemed to heal like 1/4th of his hp which kinda sucked. Characters just hit 30 so I'll go back and kill him now >|

[SathFenrir]

What works really well for me (just got decoy, so this wont be necessary anymore) but I went into all hunts and bosses earlier than I should have and ended up taking alot of dmg > curing alot > whm gets hate.

What I started putting into practice was setting up vaan as DD (GKT the EVA helps him tank too) Basch as PLD type and having Ashe on manual control and keeping her max casting range + kiting the mob in a large circle when she pulls hate.

If you dont control your mages and they pull hate they die in 2-3 hits, i never had any problem even on the wyrm keeping ashe from dying by kiting after big Cura's

[Vile]

Decoy really helped, everything went well except for when tank got confused and got a 4 hit combo on one of my mages and they died. -.-
Parry/Block Proced on almost all physical hits with blind up. Good stuff.

[Lbelle]

I don't understand how you guys are getting 11+ quickenings, I think I got 7 one time and freaked out. The bar at the bottom goes too fast for me to click to chain new people haha ;;

it'll be easier once you get all the quickenings, also start off with a lvl1 quickening instead of lvl 3 ;o


Woo! I didn't know to not start with level 3, and I think that's what raped me earlier. I tried starting w/ level 1 quickenings and got a 10 chain I think and it did Cataclysm and made the fight instantly easier.

<3 Thank you!!

[Koul]

For the Gil Snapper I went after him whenever my people were like... 22-25

Got him down to 5% but his insta-cast blizzara spam butchered me

well now I'm lvl 32-35 and we'll see how things go >_>;

PS. Is Fran-WHM, Ashe-PLD and Balthier-DD a good party set-up? To all you higher ups? heheheh... I can tweak it around if anyone would be better at their job

[SathFenrir]

I don't use the rabbit at all.

She's like 7'8''

too fuckin creepy.

[Rescue]

Question about chains. I scaned through the 29 pages and didn't see it so if it's there forgive me. My question is how do they work? Max chain I got was like 10. Do you have to keep killing the same kind of mobs to get the chain to go up or can you just go nuts killing everything in the zone to increase it?

[SathFenrir]

Question about chains. I scaned through the 29 pages and didn't see it so if it's there forgive me. My question is how do they work? Max chain I got was like 10. Do you have to keep killing the same kind of mobs to get the chain to go up or can you just go nuts killing everything in the zone to increase it?

Same family only. Like Wolf A > Alpha Wolf A can also chain.

Higher you go better items you get + buffs (pro / shell etc) + MP / HP refills

[Rescue]

Question about chains. I scaned through the 29 pages and didn't see it so if it's there forgive me. My question is how do they work? Max chain I got was like 10. Do you have to keep killing the same kind of mobs to get the chain to go up or can you just go nuts killing everything in the zone to increase it?

Same family only. Like Wolf A > Alpha Wolf A can also chain.

Higher you go better items you get + buffs (pro / shell etc) + MP / HP refills

Ah ok thank you.

[Epical]

What the FUCK... I'm currently at the part in the sandsea, and all of my guys are silenced, it's not wearing off, and I'm out of potions/echo herbs. What the fuck?

[Res]

And the chains continue across zones, too. You can kill all the mobs in a zone, go to the next one over and continue the chain. Got something silly like 160+ once that way. Every other mob was dropping 4 pelts, 2 antidotes, a wind stone and protect. :lol:

[SathFenrir]

Silence wont wear ever.

Kill them off and phoenix down them.

Or run to a crystal.

[Anyway]

Anyone done the hunt for Orthros in Waterway? I can't find the bastard. Where is he?

[Epical]

Silence wont wear ever.

Kill them off and phoenix down them.

Or run to a crystal.
Just tried it with Vaan, he's still silenced. =\ I'm at the Ogir-Yensa Sandsea part... I am trying my hardest not to go to GameFAQs and cheat by reading a guide or anything, but this is annoying. My people are useless, and there's no save crystal around. I'm really, really lost. ;;

[Po]

Finally fought my first boss last night. I know I am way behind, I only have like 3-4 hours a night to play, and I like to look around, move slowly. Anywho, holy shit Firemane was tough for a first boss in an RPG, but very fun :). I stopped at the Barheim Passage entrance with the dude sitting on the ground that is a store.
I can't wait to venture through Barheim, is it fun?
Only 1 more chest to not get for Zodiac too, is the chest with Zodiac in it at the very end of the game or what?

[Epical]

Nvmmmm, found the most random Gate Crystal/Vendor everrrr. Back to owning.

[Coldone]

I accidently sold my Serpentskin.. is there anyway to get another one for the Barheim Passage Key?

[zymurgy]

For the Gil Snapper I went after him whenever my people were like... 22-25

Got him down to 5% but his insta-cast blizzara spam butchered me

well now I'm lvl 32-35 and we'll see how things go >_>;

PS. Is Fran-WHM, Ashe-PLD and Balthier-DD a good party set-up? To all you higher ups? heheheh... I can tweak it around if anyone would be better at their job

I beat gil snapper at level 25 without ever switching anyone out and nobody even died. The most important thing IMO is to have balthier firing silent shot at him. I kept him silenced the entire time until he went into rage mode and purified his silence. I had penelo stay back and cure, and vaan up front tanking with the npc. He raped me when I fought him at like level 20 but after I got upgraded weapons and stuff he was a piece of cake.

[Helpoemer]

I accidently sold my Serpentskin.. is there anyway to get another one for the Barheim Passage Key?

you don't actually NEED the great serpent skin, it just makes the healing process of the guy dantro's wife is looking after a lot faster. i think you're just gonna have to complete a bit more of the story till that part is over

[Vile]

Anyone done the hunt for Orthros in Waterway? I can't find the bastard. Where is he?

Your party has to be Ashe Fran and Penelo before you enter the area its at.

[Koul]

For the Gil Snapper I went after him whenever my people were like... 22-25

Got him down to 5% but his insta-cast blizzara spam butchered me

well now I'm lvl 32-35 and we'll see how things go >_>;

PS. Is Fran-WHM, Ashe-PLD and Balthier-DD a good party set-up? To all you higher ups? heheheh... I can tweak it around if anyone would be better at their job

I beat gil snapper at level 25 without ever switching anyone out and nobody even died. The most important thing IMO is to have balthier firing silent shot at him. I kept him silenced the entire time until he went into rage mode and purified his silence. I had penelo stay back and cure, and vaan up front tanking with the npc. He raped me when I fought him at like level 20 but after I got upgraded weapons and stuff he was a piece of cake.

I think that's why he was owning me... I got three of those swords that Helpoemer mentioned and so he wasn't silenced the whole time

heh didn't even think of freakin silence bullets... I'm stupid

[Vobent]

I didn't even have silience bullets then.

[Vile]

Got mine off the bazaar from selling loot. ;o

[Vobent]

Ya I got mine that way too. Got it way late though, in those woods with those weird people...Vague for spoilers.


Oh..600....yay...

[Koul]

I think one of the most enjoyable things about this game is... smacking a wolf with your weapon and watching it twirl in the air away from you or just how mobs have an over-the-top way of getting killed

makes me smile everytime~

[Dion]

hm how do you get back to the dry giza plains? i need to finish these hunts

[Epical]

I'm having troubles with hate in the party. No matter what I do, Penelo *always* ends up tanking, even if her gambits are turned off. It's to the point where I have to use Ashe now because no one (while she is alive) is taking single target damage except Penelo. Fights just end up turning into a cure-bomb fest until everyone is out of MP.

I checked her equipment to see if she had a +enmity accessory or something on, but she's pretty barebones... a dagger and leather hat/body armor... thats it. Whats up?

[Koul]

I'm having troubles with hate in the party. No matter what I do, Penelo *always* ends up tanking, even if her gambits are turned off. It's to the point where I have to use Ashe now because no one (while she is alive) is taking single target damage except Penelo. Fights just end up turning into a cure-bomb fest until everyone is out of MP.

I checked her equipment to see if she had a +enmity accessory or something on, but she's pretty barebones... a dagger and leather hat/body armor... thats it. Whats up?

Hate is kinda shitty until you get the spell Decoy so just try to deal with it as best you can

[Weeks]

Mobs seem to go after your most vulnerable character. They'll go after Balthier or Fran, characters who have about 200 HP less than the ones I'm building as "tanks," despite the fact that their shitty ranged weapons are less than half as effective as Vaan's daggers.

[deviousone]

Initial aggro and healing seemed like the biggest hate retrievers in this game to me until you get Decoy.

And about the serpent skin, selling it is alright. I sold it and was still able to do a few errands for the guys wife to finish the quest.


hm how do you get back to the dry giza plains? i need to finish these hunts

Unless your still on the storyline of crossing the rainy Giza plains, all you need to do is zone in and out of the area completely. Not within zones of Giza.

Theres also a weather guy if I remember near the Giza entrance from Rabanastre(sp?).

[Epical]

Man, the Elder Wyrm fight is fucking hard. ;; It would be fine if it wasn't for that damn Sporefall move... really really fucks me up. =(

[Lbelle]

Man, the Elder Wyrm fight is fucking hard. ;; It would be fine if it wasn't for that damn Sporefall move... really really fucks me up. =(

Everyone I've talked to has agreed that that fight is fucking retarded. I definitely killed it with like 1 person alive with critical health, and was sooooooo excited. It's really hard haha.

[Bkbahamut]

Question:
White Mousse and Ring Wyrm Mob Hunts doable for a level 23 party? How hard are they? Says White Mousse is level 15, but alot of HP, and hes rank 5, so yeah.
Also I just got the Belias Esper, so I figure having him will help a little >.>
Thx in advance ;o

[Helpoemer]

Question:
White Mousse and Ring Wyrm Mob Hunts doable for a level 23 party? How hard are they? Says White Mousse is level 15, but alot of HP, and hes rank 5, so yeah.
Also I just got the Belias Esper, so I figure having him will help a little >.>
Thx in advance ;o

white mousse, without deathbringers you need to be 40+ to survive the additional aggro in the area and the constant magic spam from the mousse otherwise a my PT of lvl 25s did it with ease with deathbringers, wyrm hunt can be doable for lvl23 party but it will take a long time. espers are kinda useless in this game =/

[Bkbahamut]

Damnit, i want the reward from White mousse now! ._. Any way i can pull Mousse away to safe spot away from aggro and make it happen?

[Helpoemer]

Damnit, i want the reward from White mousse now! ._. Any way i can pull Mousse away to safe spot away from aggro and make it happen?

not really, to make it pop you have to go to the center of the area where 2 lvl 38+ malboros, a lizard and possibly an elemental will aggro you

[Bkbahamut]

lol ok thx bud, damn ruined my hopes of getting +75 Attack Bow compared to the +35 one i can buy right now ._. lol

[Helpoemer]

+90atk On Hit: KO, is much better anyway ;p

[Bkbahamut]

Ok so just tried Ring Wyrm, man that was like a one hour fight in total, bout 45 mins in i got him to like 30%....him being 9 levels higher then me, then he did a move called Restore!!! orz orz orz, filled him back to like 80%..........then he kinda just went nuts, Breath and Breath. Slow and Blind him, and it makes him not nearly as hard, but the adds are just annoying, and Breath can easily one shot anyone. ._. Guess ill wait like 5 levels and go after him again.

Thx for the advice Helpoemer

[Hitoshura]

The crazy moving wall in the King's tomb... is there anyway to defeat it? It's kicking my ass everytime I try with status effects.

[Bkbahamut]

Id say either u gotta be like level 30ish, or have Tier 2 Mist attacks.

I tried like 10 times, before i gave up, getting him to 30% once....sucks

[Koul]

The crazy moving wall in the King's tomb... is there anyway to defeat it? It's kicking my ass everytime I try with status effects.

Don't bother debuffing just get your hardest hitting people and go crazy and whenever he's low on HP use a quickening combo

[Lbelle]

or use a quickening to begin, and just fucking whack at it. Turn off healing gambits and just hit it. Use potions instead of cure, because it's faster, and try to make use of the stopping lights.

The fight was a BITCH for me too, I didn't think I'd ever be able to beat it. Just keep trucking :) Quickenings REALLY help on it though.

[Anyway]

The crazy moving wall in the King's tomb... is there anyway to defeat it? It's kicking my ass everytime I try with status effects.
Why is everyone having trouble? First off you don't even need to fight the first wall, just run. Fight the second wall and keep lighting those torch things to stop him. All the while beat the shit out of him. Once I figured out that you could light those things, I beat it first try. Be careful though, 1 of them speeds him up instead of stopping him, so if you get that one, quickly light another one.

[Falconblade]

The crazy moving wall in the King's tomb... is there anyway to defeat it? It's kicking my ass everytime I try with status effects.
Why is everyone having trouble? First off you don't even need to fight the first wall, just run. Fight the second wall and keep lighting those torch things to stop him. All the while beat the shit out of him. Once I figured out that you could light those things, I beat it first try. Be careful though, 1 of them speeds him up instead of stopping him, so if you get that one, quickly light another one.

I think people are fighting the first one because Demonbane is outragously powerful for the level you get it at. Its a 59D weapon when your highest would be around 30~.
But yeah, The Second one is pie. Although, you can get unlucky with the brazers. My first try, 2 of the Brazers made it walk faster.

[Vaspinne]

The crazy moving wall in the King's tomb... is there anyway to defeat it? It's kicking my ass everytime I try with status effects.

What I did for the first one was unload a LOT of quickenings on it. I only have 5 level 1 quickenings unlocked, so I went in with 3 people with Full MP. Did 1 quickening for chain 8 or 9 and got Catoclysm, then swapped out 1 member for 1 with MP, and with the new person, started another quickening chain. It's a lot harder with no MP, so I just tried to get chain 4 or 5. Then rinse and repeat, did it a third time with the last person with full MP, got another chain 4 or 5. At this point, the first wall only had 10% or so of life left. I popped Basch with an ether (he had a quickening and the lowest MP), and did it 1 last time to take the sucker out. Easy peasy.

The second wall isn't nearly as bad. Just the first round alone took off like 75% of it's HP. Switch 1 guy out, do a chain 4 or 5, and it's done.

Oh, and FYI, my highest level character at this point was Vaan at 16. Everyone else was level 15.

Now my question for everyone else, how do you get the dang Demonsbane? ><

I went and pressed the switches to make the stairs appear to the secret passageway, and I'm almost sure I'm going to the right place to find the chest. It's that pathway that runs directly vertical with all the Fire Bomb Flan things right? I tried zoning in and out, and back and forth and everything, but the chest won't spawn. So yeah, is this the right area? Or am I looking in the wrong place?

[Falconblade]

I went and pressed the switches to make the stairs appear to the secret passageway, and I'm almost sure I'm going to the right place to find the chest. It's that pathway that runs directly vertical with all the Fire Bomb Flan things right? I tried zoning in and out, and back and forth and everything, but the chest won't spawn. So yeah, is this the right area? Or am I looking in the wrong place?

Whats where I found it, Maybe it didnt spawn for you? Reload and search again?

[Vaspinne]

Ahh, ok. Maybe I'm just having bad luck. Atleast I'm in the right place

Edit: Just got it. I'm happy :)

[Takeno]

I just killed the first wall and the jewel door wont open, im assuming you can open it from deep inside?

[GraveRobberX]

can you get more than 1 Demonsbane?

Get 1 sword, run back to save, quit game restart and try again?

I got 1 demonsbane so far (4 tries)

PS - If you equip the golden amulet (LP Doubled) and equip it to all 6 does that transfer LP per kill as (6 Member all amulets) 12x or Party equipped (3 Fighting members) 6x or just only 1 equipped for (Alone) 2x?

[Helpoemer]

can you get more than 1 Demonsbane?

Get 1 sword, run back to save, quit game restart and try again?

I got 1 demonsbane so far (4 tries)

PS - If you equip the golden amulet (LP Doubled) and equip it to all 6 does that transfer LP per kill as (6 Member all amulets) 12x or Party equipped (3 Fighting members) 6x or just only 1 equipped for (Alone) 2x?

can only get one from that chest

LP is only double for that character
same with the double exp accessory

@takeno

...the "jewel door" is a switch, which then SHOWS you what it did

[Ace-o-fire]

HOw do you get to thoughs Henna mine place.

SPOLIER




It's after you go to frans old village.

[Helpoemer]

HOw do you get to thoughs Henna mine place.

SPOLIER




It's after you go to frans old village.

might be a spoiler for some

go to where ozmone plains meets golmore jungle, there's a guard injured nearby, give him a potion. then take his choco and zone into the next area, when you zone out just stay to the left and you'll go past the bushes (there's another chocobo standing in the bushes to help you notice) keep going and you're at the mines

[Ace-o-fire]

much thanks, ive been wondering around for 2 hours now looking for it, tottaly forgot about the soldier.

[Epical]

So, still dying to Elder Wyrm. =\ Vaan 25, Balth 23, Fran 17, Basch 18, Ashe 21, Penelo 22, Larsa 24.

I think what I might do is farm the jungle until everyone who isn't 25 is and then load up on like 30+ of each status cure item and then try again, because I can't even get it below 60%. =\ I've realized that the treants at the start are really fucking me up too.

[Helpoemer]

So, still dying to Elder Wyrm. =\ Vaan 25, Balth 23, Fran 17, Basch 18, Ashe 21, Penelo 22, Larsa 24.

I think what I might do is farm the jungle until everyone who isn't 25 is and then load up on like 30+ of each status cure item and then try again, because I can't even get it below 60%. =\ I've realized that the treants at the start are really fucking me up too.

killing the treants first weakens the wyrm

[Epical]

So, still dying to Elder Wyrm. =\ Vaan 25, Balth 23, Fran 17, Basch 18, Ashe 21, Penelo 22, Larsa 24.

I think what I might do is farm the jungle until everyone who isn't 25 is and then load up on like 30+ of each status cure item and then try again, because I can't even get it below 60%. =\ I've realized that the treants at the start are really fucking me up too.

killing the treants first weakens the wyrm
I do, but as I am the wyrm is owning some random party member, and I haven't gotten the license for Decoy yet on Basch or Vaan. What I might do this time is quickening the two treants, THEN go to the Wyrm so it doesn't have time to own me. Mind you, it's Sporefall that's really the thing that's owning me... does Esuna take all of them off at the same time? I don't have the gambits for Ally: Blinded/Slowed/Silenced/etc yet to make an efficient status cure gambit. Takes forever to use the single items on people, and by the time I'm done returning everyone back to normal, he does it again. >_>

[Helpoemer]

So, still dying to Elder Wyrm. =\ Vaan 25, Balth 23, Fran 17, Basch 18, Ashe 21, Penelo 22, Larsa 24.

I think what I might do is farm the jungle until everyone who isn't 25 is and then load up on like 30+ of each status cure item and then try again, because I can't even get it below 60%. =\ I've realized that the treants at the start are really fucking me up too.

killing the treants first weakens the wyrm
I do, but as I am the wyrm is owning some random party member, and I haven't gotten the license for Decoy yet on Basch or Vaan. What I might do this time is quickening the two treants, THEN go to the Wyrm so it doesn't have time to own me. Mind you, it's Sporefall that's really the thing that's owning me... does Esuna take all of them off at the same time? I don't have the gambits for Ally: Blinded/Slowed/Silenced/etc yet to make an efficient status cure gambit. Takes forever to use the single items on people, and by the time I'm done returning everyone back to normal, he does it again. >_>

uhhh you know that Ally: Any -> Esuna will automatically cast when someone has a status ailment, right? it won't spam it on random ppl
same with Ally: Any -> Phoenix Down
esuna doesn't get rid of slow though, only haste does

save your quickenings/MP for the wyrm

[Epical]

OMfggggggggggggggggggggggggggg finally I beat him. I thought I was never going to win.

Lets just say that serk in XII >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> serk in XI.

[Takeno]

Can anyone tell me how to get to Gil Snapper? I looked all over Giza plains (rain) and cant find it :(

[Falconblade]

Can anyone tell me how to get to Gil Snapper? I looked all over Giza plains (rain) and cant find it :(

Its in tracks of the beast. Gotta make a bridge first to get there though.

[Epical]

Is it worth it to be keeping all these magicite btw? Or can I pawn them off to the shops?

[Bkbahamut]

After getting the Grimroire things from bazaar, that give you the Monographs, it says gives you superior loot from certain mobs. Does that mean you get the rare drops off them, or lets them drop Arcana only? >.>

Which my 2nd question, what is Arcana for exactly? Should i sell it?

[Lbelle]

Is it worth it to be keeping all these magicite btw? Or can I pawn them off to the shops?

sell that shit! :wink: it was said somewhere wayyyyyyyyyy back that you pretty much sell everything.

[Epical]

Is it worth it to be keeping all these magicite btw? Or can I pawn them off to the shops?

sell that shit! :wink: it was said somewhere wayyyyyyyyyy back that you pretty much sell everything.
Yeah I ended up selling it. With "nethecite" being RIDILLED (lolgetit) throughout the storyline, I got paranoid with the magicite being useful at some point in time... had close to 99 of every kind (minus ice).

Speaking of money tho, I just went back and did the Nidhogg hunt, and wow... L. Mines is sooooooooooo broken for making money. =P Was in and out in like 2 minutes, came out with 4k (yeah, one shotting bones = win). Those bone fragments are awesome. Also, I noticed that if you only have one person in your party, they get 300 exp per bones kill (which is... =O!!!!). I'm sure that has to be faster than grinding on party-mobs. I'd assume the exp/kill would be even higher in the sandsea area... those have *no* HP, and when I'm swinging for 700+ a hit, it's pretty damn easy exp.




























I haven't felt this way about an offline console game in a L O N G time (think, like... StarFox...). I love this game. <3 SE? Feels weird to say that. =\

[SathFenrir]

OMfggggggggggggggggggggggggggg finally I beat him. I thought I was never going to win.

Lets just say that serk in XII >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> serk in XI.


Zerk in FFXII is the fucking best thing ever.

I even have my tanks self macro it, cuz like...yea..wow

[Epical]

Yeah, O M G @ Deathbringer too. I tried zerk + DB and I was hitting for over 2000 damage a swing. =\ This sword is actually kind of unfair lol. Fran and Balth just took a huuuuuuge backseat. =(

[Helpoemer]

After getting the Grimroire things from bazaar, that give you the Monographs, it says gives you superior loot from certain mobs. Does that mean you get the rare drops off them, or lets them drop Arcana only? >.>

Which my 2nd question, what is Arcana for exactly? Should i sell it?

monographs increase drop rate of rarer items

arcana is from canopus pot

arcana is used to make high arcana, which is sold to make other bazaar items (Serpentarius for example) that are needed for the good bazaar goods obtainable weapons

[izembo]

if you skip the optional demon wall can you ever go back and try and kill it later?

[Helpoemer]

yes

[izembo]

guess ill do that then, kinda wanna progress the story a bit and dont feel like lvling more just for it.

[Bkbahamut]

so i should sell all Arcana i get then?

[Lbelle]

At higher levels is Lhusu/Sand Sea still the best places to make money? I'm at the point just after meeting Ressar (think that was his name?), so I'd imagine there are better places to farm alot more money since things cost minimum 10k+ now.

[Falconblade]

At higher levels is Lhusu/Sand Sea still the best places to make money? I'm at the point just after meeting Ressar (think that was his name?), so I'd imagine there are better places to farm alot more money since things cost minimum 10k+ now.

Could go to the Stilshrine and farm zombies for festering flesh, 400-500g each and they drop pretty often.

[Fira]

I'm like stuck in the stilshrine, The waypoint doesn't work, the 2 doors on the sides are locked and the pedistal only spawns zombies. Am I missing something here?

[Falconblade]

I'm like stuck in the stilshrine, The waypoint doesn't work, the 2 doors on the sides are locked and the pedistal only spawns zombies. Am I missing something here?

Have Ashe touch it with the Dawn Shard equipped

[Fira]

o wow im stupid, i forgot i even had that accessory

[izembo]

whats the best weapon for a healing type character?

edit: looking at lists i'm guessing a rod?

[Lbelle]

I'm like stuck in the stilshrine, The waypoint doesn't work, the 2 doors on the sides are locked and the pedistal only spawns zombies. Am I missing something here?

Doesn't have to be Ashe...just your party leader. Personally I put it on whoever doesn't need MP since it takes away all of your MP.

[Helpoemer]

whats the best weapon for a healing type character?

edit: looking at lists i'm guessing a rod?

staves are generally better in magic power, but rods give a few mp+

[Lbelle]

Is there a point to going to central in Archades? I was just there and it seems as though all you get are more rich people talking about you. Waste of an hour doing that "quest" ;;

[RikkuYuna]

I was hoping there would be some kind of mini game area there so I was planning to get my sandlewood or w/e its called, but guess not anymore =/

[Lbelle]

Wow, so I went and one shotted ring wyrm (probably due to my level, he was easy). Then I went to get the wine-mob or whatever in that cavern, and took a wrong turn and ended up fighting an esper...

Yeah, it kicked my ass.

[Bkbahamut]

lolol, Adrammelech? in Zaterinan Caverns or w/e? yeah i was just xping/farming through, and then stumbled upon him, i was barely able to fend off the summons, but with the Esper too, yeah was no joke. Book says hes the "easiest" of the optional summons, and level 39, im 34 and got my ass handed to me lol.