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[VZX]

Is there any realistic reason a ranger should wear rnger necklace at Faf?

Gear was something like Franny, Selene's Bow, Wyvern Helm, neck, Minuet/Suppa (subbing war), Osode, Seiryu Kote, Rajas/str ring, amemet+1, rk belt +2, hume RSE pants and Goliard.

I just didn't get the neck/earrings.
I don't get what are you trying to say. You think there is/are other specific neck option than racc/ratk necklace?

OK, this is really bother me for long time:
Mercurial Sword : attacking up to 3 times or 4 times?

[Tearshang]

Is it just me or does Desperate Blows only work on Scythe and not all "Two-handed Weapons"? :(
From my tests the only noticebly effect from desperate blows was on Scythe. Has it always been like this? Debating on if I should send in a bug report :/

It definitely works with Great Sword too. :P

May I ask what great sword you used? My tests were with Algol and my Scythe was out swinging it with desperate blows fully merited :(

[Awoir]

Is there any realistic reason a ranger should wear rnger necklace at Faf?

Gear was something like Franny, Selene's Bow, Wyvern Helm, neck, Minuet/Suppa (subbing war), Osode, Seiryu Kote, Rajas/str ring, amemet+1, rk belt +2, hume RSE pants and Goliard.

I just didn't get the neck/earrings.
I don't get what are you trying to say. You think there is/are other specific neck option than racc/ratk necklace?

OK, this is really bother me for long time:
Mercurial Sword : attacking up to 3 times or 4 times?

Yes, I think there are better alternatives to about half his gear. Belt could go Precise, neck could go PCC or Sea Gorget, Bow could be Ebow (only about 2m on my server now), Vision earring isn't a bad choice either...

It was just really surprising to see someone wearing ranger necklace while fighting faf. That's all. I know they have a lot of jobs at 75 so it's surprising they weren't wearing something like PCC. It's part of the "hey, i've played mage for over 300 levels, and no melee of mine is above 27, so help me learn why he'd set up the way he is." >.>

If you're using sushi you might not need the 5 extra Acc from PCC and it's a hell of a lot easier to get R.Acc than it is R.Att, so Ranger's Necklace isn't a bad trade off. He could have upgraded to a Jagd Gorget for 1 more R.Att but the point is moot. Not everyone has 2m to drop on a bow either and for like 1 hour a week or something Selene's is better then Ebow so did you /clock? Sea gorgets are only good on WSs, did you mean sea torque? Drop rates on those aren't extremely great so many people are still waiting on those, add in to the fact that it drops from a 2nd tier jailer and the patch that made virtues 100% isn't EXTREMELY old yet, not having a torque isn't rare. The RK belt isn't a bad choise if the regional control effect is good, did you check who owned the region and ask him if he had Signet? Que 914 + wall'o'text pic

[Martinius]

neck, back, waist, rings and earrings won't cause you to blink, only weapon/sub/ranged, as well as body/feet/hands/legs/head.

ranger necklace isn't terrible, but on a mob like fafnir, even pre ranged acc fix, you want as much acc as possible. of course peacock charm isn't in everyone's means, but outside of a hope torque(or faith if xbow or gun) r necklace isn't terrible. that said, precise belt is like 200k, and is pretty much the best choice other than af2 belt. i gave up on my rk belt +2 a long time ago. it was just too random to get activated, and str/agi +2 isnt enough to justify wearing full time.

also, selene's bow is not a bad choice overall, tho except under very specific circumstances, ebow will always outperform it. and honestly, if you can level rng to 75, it means you either learned how to farm/craft, or how to ige, and either way, 2 mil isn't that bad. that said, unless you're a fully meritted archery ranger, at least from personal experience(mind you i haven't fought faf on rng in a long time, i tend to opt for sam or blm), gun will give you better results, primarily because a hellfire's gonna give you a little more acc, and the tp gain(17 a hit i think?) is very nice, particularly for barrages.

as for the rest of his gear, hume rse pants? or feet? b/c if he's wearing rse1 legs on fafnir, he should be kicked in the balls. rse2 feet however are very nice for humes b/c of str +3 and hp +60. i personally opt for af2 feet, as i like the 10 r att... also, unless he was trying to epeen, wyvern helm instead of ohat is just silly... in exp, of course its fine, but again, high evasion mob, that 10 r acc is too nice to pass up.

and franny is fine if he doesn't have kriegs... rangers(especially if he's eating sushi) have fairly decent accuracy overall, and that's a dmg 44(fran) or 48(kriegs) axe, which isn't gonna hit for 0 any more than any other melee, so can be useful in tp building.

[LordMagnus]

Is Automaton Assault soloable?

[Delekii]

Is Automaton Assault soloable?
By RDM atleast, yes. Very difficult with the 15 minute time constraint, but soloable.

[Zilong]

Is Automaton Assault soloable?

NIN/RNG

Tonjutsu Galka, RA/Slug Mithra, and just deal with the rest like other solo.

Gotta pull the dolls into near entrance to give you time for the next one though.

[Delekii]

Is Automaton Assault soloable?

NIN/RNG

Tonjutsu Galka, RA/Slug Mithra, and just deal with the rest like other solo.

Gotta pull the dolls into near entrance to give you time for the next one though.
How do you deal with the magic casting one? :o dont the ga's screw you over?

[Chupunpupun]

Is Automaton Assault soloable?

NIN/RNG

Tonjutsu Galka, RA/Slug Mithra, and just deal with the rest like other solo.

Gotta pull the dolls into near entrance to give you time for the next one though.
How do you deal with the magic casting one? :o dont the ga's screw you over?

Can BLU solo it? Since they have stun, B, P and S attacks and the ability to solo SC. Or those are still counted as magic?

[Aable]

I just did the second Mithra Trackers BC (letter from Y), the one with the low chance of droping weapons. Other people I know who have done this have always atleast got a crafting item from the chest, but our box was empty. Is this a glitch or just horible luck on my part?

[Epical]

Can Indra Katars proc on WS?

I think so since it doesn't seem anything different than your average triple/double+%, but it won't on Asuran.

I confirm this, you can triple on DK, raging. Can't on AF for obvious reasons.
Thanks.

[Delekii]

Is Automaton Assault soloable?

NIN/RNG

Tonjutsu Galka, RA/Slug Mithra, and just deal with the rest like other solo.

Gotta pull the dolls into near entrance to give you time for the next one though.
How do you deal with the magic casting one? :o dont the ga's screw you over?

Can BLU solo it? Since they have stun, B, P and S attacks and the ability to solo SC. Or those are still counted as magic?
I dunno if BLU could do it, since magical damage is long cast time (RDM does it with enspell), and ranged damage is long recast (for jetstream anyway). It would be a pretty mana-intensive fight.

[Hapernack]

With as broken as melee are now after the update... would it be feasible to do a 6-man Bahamut v2 meleeburn style?

Get like 4 SAM 1 BRD 1 RDM?

Stunlock Bahamut with Soul Voiced songs + Dispel spam and 4 SAM going to town?

[SamanosukeShiva]

how much HP Bv2 got?

assuming /war WS can do 1,5k dmg minimal, 1 SAM can do about 7-8 WS's in 30 sec, more maybe,
1500*7*4=42000 dmg

[Hapernack]

Poor weak Bahamut only has 25,000 HP. Less than a quarter of his outside relatives that roam the lands.

[Fryte]

Considering yesterday's update for 2H weapons:

Scythe WS: gorget or Peacock Charm? Hecatomb Harness or Hauberk? Warwolf Belt or Potent Belt?

[Hapernack]

Another random question there might not be an answer for yet:

They said we would be awarded titles now for winning Boss Chariot battles. What did they turn out to be?

[Khajit]

I've been hearing about soboro being better than hagun in some situations.

from what i gather it ivolves store tp. What's the ideal new setup for soboro or is it the same usualy +10 STORETP setup most sam already use?

[Amele]

I've been hearing about soboro being better than hagun in some situations.

from what i gather it ivolves store tp. What's the ideal new setup for soboro or is it the same usualy +10 STORETP setup most sam already use?

soboro and hagun have the same delay, store TP has no effect on whether hagun or soboro is better (but the whole point of soboro is hitting as many weaponskills as you can, so you want a six hit setup anyway)

six hits is 45 total store tp, 25 base + 10 merits + 10 gear/food will get you there.

pre-patch, soboro was better for sam/rng (almost everywhere) and an option for sam/war (mostly in merits). hagun was the weapon of choice for everything endgame /war or /thf, excepting 300% TP weaponskills, most sam's used either butachi(+1) / ushikirimaru / onimaru for those.

post patch? it's all still up in the air.

[Martinius]

I've been hearing about soboro being better than hagun in some situations.

from what i gather it ivolves store tp. What's the ideal new setup for soboro or is it the same usualy +10 STORETP setup most sam already use?

soboro and hagun have the same delay, store TP has no effect on whether hagun or soboro is better (but the whole point of soboro is hitting as many weaponskills as you can, so you want a six hit setup anyway)

six hits is 45 total store tp, 25 base + 10 merits + 10 gear/food will get you there.

pre-patch, soboro was better for sam/rng (almost everywhere) and an option for sam/war (mostly in merits). hagun was the weapon of choice for everything endgame /war or /thf, excepting 300% TP weaponskills, most sam's used either butachi(+1) / ushikirimaru / onimaru for those.

post patch? it's all still up in the air.

just one quick note... it's 46 total store tp, which is mildly annoying, but considering that any good sam is gonna have a brutal earring, you pick up that .1 there. otherwise you can get the remainder from rajas + hachiman feet if you ws in hachiman, or rajas + hachiman hands if you ws in hume rse2 feet/rutters/askar. i haven't had a chance to merit since yesterday but i am interested in seeing how a soboro performs now that we got such a robust boost in our attack power.

[Amele]

I've been hearing about soboro being better than hagun in some situations.

from what i gather it ivolves store tp. What's the ideal new setup for soboro or is it the same usualy +10 STORETP setup most sam already use?

soboro and hagun have the same delay, store TP has no effect on whether hagun or soboro is better (but the whole point of soboro is hitting as many weaponskills as you can, so you want a six hit setup anyway)

six hits is 45 total store tp, 25 base + 10 merits + 10 gear/food will get you there.

pre-patch, soboro was better for sam/rng (almost everywhere) and an option for sam/war (mostly in merits). hagun was the weapon of choice for everything endgame /war or /thf, excepting 300% TP weaponskills, most sam's used either butachi(+1) / ushikirimaru / onimaru for those.

post patch? it's all still up in the air.

just one quick note... it's 46 total store tp, which is mildly annoying, but considering that any good sam is gonna have a brutal earring, you pick up that .1 there. otherwise you can get the remainder from rajas + hachiman feet if you ws in hachiman, or rajas + hachiman hands if you ws in hume rse2 feet/rutters/askar. i haven't had a chance to merit since yesterday but i am interested in seeing how a soboro performs now that we got such a robust boost in our attack power.


trunc(11.5 * 1.45, 2) = 16.6 * 6 = 99.6 yeah ok. 46 store tp.

if it truncates to 2 decimal places it'll be 100.02 (I've never seen it actually tested) my understanding about soboro is that it hits ws about as hard post patch as pre-patch hagun did.

[evilpaul]

Does Silica actually have a decent drop rate anywhere? :?

[aurik]

Does Silica actually have a decent drop rate anywhere? :?

makara in miseraux are pretty decent

[Gengu]

Concerning the new 2h update and lower levels <.>

Did the update have as large of an effect on lower levels as it did for endgame? Haven't heard much about DRG or DRK or SAM becoming better pre-75, I've only seen lots of endgame posts concerning it all. If I hop on my 33DRG will I be king? Or wut?

[Wintermute]

Anyone tried tossing one of the new ToAU completion rings to see if it can be replaced like the CoP ones?


EDIT:

Anyone getting different items from ??? Boxes? Just did 3 Counting sheep and got a Holy Bolt Quiver, and a Merrow Scale which aren't listed in Wiki.

Double Edit:
Never mind, had a brain fart and forgot SE changed Box appraisals in update.

[evilpaul]

For a poor NIN: Jaeger+ToAU melee ring or Jaeger+Sniper's?

[Vigilia]

Anyone else noticed if the main weapon's add effect stops proc'ing when using a grip with an added effect?

I was in Dynamis last night on DRG using Mezraq (add effect: lowers evasion) with a Platinum Grip (add effect: Stun). In the 3+ hours I only saw Stun proc (fairly frequently at that), never Evasion down. Was I just reeeaaaally unlucky or are grips and mainhand weapons like using an en-spell with a weapon that already has an en-effect- i.e. only the spell will work? Or in this case, only the grip's add effect works?

It's not hugely important as I'll be replacing that grip asap after some ODS runs but just wondering if anyone else has noticed this.

[Spekkio]

i think it probably overrides it. iirc, using an enspell with excalibur prevents the additional effect that deals damage from procing. not owning one though, i can't say if that's true however. might be able to test if you had a sirroco or a boreal cesti.

[ringthree]

I've been hearing about soboro being better than hagun in some situations.

from what i gather it ivolves store tp. What's the ideal new setup for soboro or is it the same usualy +10 STORETP setup most sam already use?

soboro and hagun have the same delay, store TP has no effect on whether hagun or soboro is better (but the whole point of soboro is hitting as many weaponskills as you can, so you want a six hit setup anyway)

six hits is 45 total store tp, 25 base + 10 merits + 10 gear/food will get you there.

pre-patch, soboro was better for sam/rng (almost everywhere) and an option for sam/war (mostly in merits). hagun was the weapon of choice for everything endgame /war or /thf, excepting 300% TP weaponskills, most sam's used either butachi(+1) / ushikirimaru / onimaru for those.

post patch? it's all still up in the air.

just one quick note... it's 46 total store tp, which is mildly annoying, but considering that any good sam is gonna have a brutal earring, you pick up that .1 there. otherwise you can get the remainder from rajas + hachiman feet if you ws in hachiman, or rajas + hachiman hands if you ws in hume rse2 feet/rutters/askar. i haven't had a chance to merit since yesterday but i am interested in seeing how a soboro performs now that we got such a robust boost in our attack power.


trunc(11.5 * 1.45, 2) = 16.6 * 6 = 99.6 yeah ok. 46 store tp.

if it truncates to 2 decimal places it'll be 100.02 (I've never seen it actually tested) my understanding about soboro is that it hits ws about as hard post patch as pre-patch hagun did.

Here is my question, why worry about a 6 hit build with a Soboro? 2/3 of the time it wont even matter right?

[ringthree]

For a poor NIN: Jaeger+ToAU melee ring or Jaeger+Sniper's?

How about Sniper's and ToAU melee ring? Is that an option?

[Amele]

I've been hearing about soboro being better than hagun in some situations.

from what i gather it ivolves store tp. What's the ideal new setup for soboro or is it the same usualy +10 STORETP setup most sam already use?

soboro and hagun have the same delay, store TP has no effect on whether hagun or soboro is better (but the whole point of soboro is hitting as many weaponskills as you can, so you want a six hit setup anyway)

six hits is 45 total store tp, 25 base + 10 merits + 10 gear/food will get you there.

pre-patch, soboro was better for sam/rng (almost everywhere) and an option for sam/war (mostly in merits). hagun was the weapon of choice for everything endgame /war or /thf, excepting 300% TP weaponskills, most sam's used either butachi(+1) / ushikirimaru / onimaru for those.

post patch? it's all still up in the air.

just one quick note... it's 46 total store tp, which is mildly annoying, but considering that any good sam is gonna have a brutal earring, you pick up that .1 there. otherwise you can get the remainder from rajas + hachiman feet if you ws in hachiman, or rajas + hachiman hands if you ws in hume rse2 feet/rutters/askar. i haven't had a chance to merit since yesterday but i am interested in seeing how a soboro performs now that we got such a robust boost in our attack power.


trunc(11.5 * 1.45, 2) = 16.6 * 6 = 99.6 yeah ok. 46 store tp.

if it truncates to 2 decimal places it'll be 100.02 (I've never seen it actually tested) my understanding about soboro is that it hits ws about as hard post patch as pre-patch hagun did.

Here is my question, why worry about a 6 hit build with a Soboro? 2/3 of the time it wont even matter right?

well with a six hit setup, you get.
3+3 = 2 rounds (2 rounds with a ws before)
3+2+2 = 3 rounds (2 rounds with a ws before)
3+2+1 = 3 rounds (2 rounds with a ws before)
2+2+2 = 3 rounds (3 rounds with a ws before)
2+2+1+x = 4 rounds (3 rounds w/ws)
3+1+1+x = 4 rounds (3 rounds w/ws)

with seven hit setup you take
3+3+x = 3 rounds (2 rounds w/ws)
3+2+2 = 3 rounds (3 rounds w/ws
3+2+1+x = 4 rounds (3 rounds w/ws)
2+2+2+x = 4 rounds (3 rounds w/ws)
2+2+1+2 = 4 rounds (4 rounds w/ws)
2+2+1+1+x = 5 rounds (4 rounds w/ws)
3+1+1+1+x = 5 rounds (4 rounds w/ws)

so you lose a little less than a round on average. (so it's slightly less valuable) but in general 6 hits vs 7 hits you still save one round.

in general though (I at least) was actually holding two different discussions at the same time: 1) what sort of store TP would you need, w/ and w/out sword strap delay reduction. and 2) is soboro better now that the fTP gap between hagun and non-hagun is smaller? (I'm interested how soboro compares to a good D:80 gkt too, like ushikiri or shinsoku or kumokiri)

[Wintermute]

i think it probably overrides it. iirc, using an enspell with excalibur prevents the additional effect that deals damage from procing. not owning one though, i can't say if that's true however. might be able to test if you had a sirroco or a boreal cesti.

Sirroco Add Effect gets over-written by en-spells.

I think the general formula is that Spell/Accessory[Strap] Add effects overwrite Default Weapon Add Effects

[Septimus]

i think it probably overrides it. iirc, using an enspell with excalibur prevents the additional effect that deals damage from procing. not owning one though, i can't say if that's true however. might be able to test if you had a sirroco or a boreal cesti.

Sirroco Add Effect gets over-written by en-spells.

I think the general formula is that Spell/Accessory[Strap] Add effects overwrite Default Weapon Add Effects

Try out stap, en-spell, and elemental staff. En-spell will probably win, but only one way to find out for sure.

[dendryte]

How gimp is COR/WHM? Is it feasible to use COR as a support-only job in XP from 1 to 75 (in other words, little or no DD output from the COR), or would this be a waste of a party slot? This is assuming no XP static. Yeah, I'd want to xp it like a bard and be on the cheap.

[ringthree]

My new question:

How much Vit/Def = how much -Dmg%?

[evilpaul]

For a poor NIN: Jaeger+ToAU melee ring or Jaeger+Sniper's?

How about Sniper's and ToAU melee ring? Is that an option?Yeah, prices dropped so I have a Sniper's and I'll get the ToAU ring in a day or two.
My new question:

How much Vit/Def = how much -Dmg%?VIT/Def > -DMG% when -DMG% is 50%+ and capped. Otherwise "shit's situational" is probably the answer. :)

[Amele]

My new question:

How much Vit/Def = how much -Dmg%?

against what? it's not a linear relationship.

[ringthree]

My new question:

How much Vit/Def = how much -Dmg%?

against what? it's not a linear relationship.

Against an XP mob that is beating my face in. Basically kinda stealing Rukenshin's SAM defense set up idea for when Seigan isn't up and wanted to know if I should use Genbu's Kabuto or an Arhat's Jinpachi +1 along with some other -DMG% gear. I am never going to tank with this set up, I just want an Oh shit! set so +HP isn't much of a factor.

[Rocl]

if you get mazurka while on a chocobo do you get the bonus!?

[Asy]

Anyone wanna give me cd keys >_>

[Ohemgee]

Anyone wanna give me cd keys >_>
You can buy those?

[Amele]

My new question:

How much Vit/Def = how much -Dmg%?

against what? it's not a linear relationship.

Against an XP mob that is beating my face in. Basically kinda stealing Rukenshin's SAM defense set up idea for when Seigan isn't up and wanted to know if I should use Genbu's Kabuto or an Arhat's Jinpachi +1 along with some other -DMG% gear. I am never going to tank with this set up, I just want an Oh shit! set so +HP isn't much of a factor.

-% damage will be better in the kind of range you're talking about,(definitely the +1 body and likely the +1 head too) but I can't be arsed to work all the numbers right now. (I started on it, then stopped again.) I could build the comparison formula pretty quickly except you'd still need to know a ton of shit to make it useful so I didn't.

it would significantly simplify the calculations if you gave me the rest of the setup's total vit and def, and then which pieces you were considering in particular; but I can't promise a time for a definite answer.

[Asy]

Anyone wanna give me cd keys >_>
You can buy those?


I don't wanna pay for like my 5th copy of FF. I'll find someone to mooch from!

[Intense]

Who/what is Zi'Tah, and why does he/she/it/they have a sanctuary?
Quoted for attention lol. Do any of you FFXI history buffs know about this? Was it ever explained?

The coniferous forest that is at the entrance to the Li'Telor region. At noon little light reaches the forest floor, blocked by trees that are thousands of years old. However throughout the forest are crystals that are illuminated and shine onto their surroundings eerily even during the day. Here was believed by the people of Vanadiel to be the region of gods, and was rare for people to visit unless on pilgrimage to Ro Maeve, or Goblin Highwaymen.

I'm curious about a lot of the zone names and how they got those names.

[Sendra]

KS99 wyrm, can he flail?

[BRP]

KS99 wyrm, can he flail?

Yes, for much lulz.

(For example, if a PLD flashes him as running in, he can draw in everyone(behind him slightly) and use flail. A fun way to start a run! I would suggest a Stun or two at the start to let everyone get into position).

[Martinius]

a lot of folks seem to suggest opening with either a stun or a sleep to allow folks to get into position for ksnm99. even if he doesn't flail because of an eager pld, he likes opening with breath, straight down the tunnel where everyone is rushing towards. and yeah, flails are not fun on him b/c it pretty much means the orb is lost. correct me if im wrong tho, wyrm, like CoP wyrms, can't flail in the air.

[Kaylia]

How do you dye your chocobo, and how long does it last? I kinda hate my blue chocobo, but wont bother if it's not permanant.

[shukuffxi]

There used to be a BLM thread with this I can't find, so: AMII, Damage+ is only on MAB, but M.Acc is on full time? I remember someone saying the JP translation was different than the NA text for the description?

[Osede]

damage is only + for MAB. But not sure about M.Acc. The JP text is quite confuse too thought. If translate directly from JP text, it is

Each point of upgrade +3 MAB damage, +5 M.Acc.

But I'm kind of believe the M.Acc is just not only for MAB.

[Xisin]

aye I've always though of it as the damage adds to MB but the accuracy works anytime. But i do not know of the thread you brought up

[bamiman]

KS99 wyrm, can he flail?

Yes, for much lulz.

(For example, if a PLD flashes him as running in, he can draw in everyone(behind him slightly) and use flail. A fun way to start a run! I would suggest a Stun or two at the start to let everyone get into position).

Get PLD to disband and reinvite asap. He can rejoin pt when he is ready then everyone go and run up and position on feets. Thats what we do and it works awesome. Prevents whole alliance from getting drawn in too.

[BRP]

KS99 wyrm, can he flail?

Yes, for much lulz.

(For example, if a PLD flashes him as running in, he can draw in everyone(behind him slightly) and use flail. A fun way to start a run! I would suggest a Stun or two at the start to let everyone get into position).

Get PLD to disband and reinvite asap. He can rejoin pt when he is ready then everyone go and run up and position on feets. Thats what we do and it works awesome. Prevents whole alliance from getting drawn in too.

A stun sounds like an easier way to do it...

[Awoir]

Or just have the PLD run in first and everyone stand at the bottom of the platform, one he breathes everyone runs in >.>

[BRP]

...or you can stun, which involves about 90% less damage.

[sb]

Have the mages and any melee run to the sides (around 4 or 8 o'clock with the tank/entrence ramp at 6) of the arena (it can be done with out agro). Once the tank engages, they can move in. I've never seen a draw-in flail in the begining, though I have seen it breath a few time, and those who run in with the tank eat it.

[Wintermute]

How many people needed for a low-number Simurgh fight?

LS peep says a THF+Healer can take it but I'm paranoid about Greater Bird Triple Attack moves and such.

[Budonez]

thf+rdm can duo fairly decently, thf+brd+rdm is usually win np.
A well-geared NIN works fine in place of the THF, that's what I do anyways.

[evilpaul]

NIN (or possibly a MNK/NIN with good evasion gear) might be better due to more Subtle Blow for duoing purposes. It didn't seem to have TP regen back when I used to fight it. I remember doing it with five people, the hardest part was outclaiming the Sky RMTs who camped it too.

[Kaeko]

NIN (or possibly a MNK/NIN with good evasion gear) might be better due to more Subtle Blow for duoing purposes. It didn't seem to have TP regen back when I used to fight it. I remember doing it with five people, the hardest part was outclaiming the Sky RMTs who camped it too.

I'm not sure if they ever changed this, but Roc and Simurgh are the 2 most accurate mobs in the game as far as I know. They just plain don't miss. It doesn't make them hard, but you can take a 75 THF and I'd say it'll still have a good 90+% accuracy.

[Budonez]

NIN (or possibly a MNK/NIN with good evasion gear) might be better due to more Subtle Blow for duoing purposes. It didn't seem to have TP regen back when I used to fight it. I remember doing it with five people, the hardest part was outclaiming the Sky RMTs who camped it too.

I'm not sure if they ever changed this, but Roc and Simurgh are the 2 most accurate mobs in the game as far as I know. They just plain don't miss. It doesn't make them hard, but you can take a 75 THF and I'd say it'll still have a good 90+% accuracy.
Roc was very accurate when I was farming him. I recently killed Simurgh and it missed me quite often. (I'm a NIN)

[shukuffxi]

Fact of Fiction: Ru'Aun Gardens + Light Weather + Lightday = Groundskeeper (or maybe pot too?) become sight aggro? A few people mentioned this like it was common knowledge, but i've never experienced it that I can remember, or heard any stories of like "Holy shit they all aggro'd us", someone must have an interesting story if this is true?

[Spekkio]

Fact of Fiction: Ru'Aun Gardens + Light Weather + Lightday = Groundskeeper (or maybe pot too?) become sight aggro? A few people mentioned this like it was common knowledge, but i've never experienced it that I can remember, or heard any stories of like "Holy shit they all aggro'd us", someone must have an interesting story if this is true?
iirc (go ahead and flame me if i'm wrong) that weather is known to have an impact on aggro radius of mobs. the effect of light weather in sky is to dramatically increase the visual acuity of the dolls in the alcoves, causing them to basically aggro at any distance making the front pathway to the palace, a gauntlet of death.

[shukuffxi]

iirc (go ahead and flame me if i'm wrong) that weather is known to have an impact on aggro radius of mobs. the effect of light weather in sky is to dramatically increase the visual acuity of the dolls in the alcoves, causing them to basically aggro at any distance making the front pathway to the palace, a gauntlet of death.

Logically that kind of makes sense, but i've asked a whole bunch of people, some of who were like "That's total crap, i've done sky for years and that's NEVER happened to me, or anyone I know" and a few who were like "Yes, i've heard that quite a few times as well, but i've never seen it happen, but I believe it's possible". If anyone would know for sure it'd be sky RMT, so need a chinese translator! That, or some people who had it happen to them.

Personally, I don't believe it's impossible, after all, in Ro'Maeve during certain moon phases you can walk up the stairway in the middle, or dependant on weather, you can trade that R/EX item for your Ark Pentasphere, so the programming to make it happen is probably already there?

[Sev]

lol really I have been in sky running around during light weather never have gotten aggro for them.

[shukuffxi]

lol really I have been in sky running around during light weather never have gotten aggro for them.


Fact of Fiction: Ru'Aun Gardens + Light Weather + Lightday = Groundskeeper (or maybe pot too?) become sight aggro? A few people mentioned this like it was common knowledge, but i've never experienced it that I can remember, or heard any stories of like "Holy shit they all aggro'd us", someone must have an interesting story if this is true?

I've been there too during light weather, and didn't get any aggro, but never on Lightday (I pay attention everytime there's light weather, but never been on the proper day before)

[Bagel]

Wasn't that patched a while back?

[Necrosis]

lol, <3 the sig bagel

[Deelo]

lol, <3 the sig bagel

^

[Deftscythe]

Couldn't find this on search. Does +counter gear have any effect on Sam's counters with Seigan+Third Eye?

[Winter85]

Cynoprosopi in Limbus NW Apollyon, does it flail too?

[Credos]

Cynoprosopi in Limbus NW Apollyon, does it flail too?

Yes.

[Amele]

Cynoprosopi in Limbus NW Apollyon, does it flail too?

Yes.

and it's awesome.

[Xajii]

Cynoprosopi in Limbus NW Apollyon, does it flail too?

Yes.

and it's awesome.
Best way to lose a limbus, ever.

[Tajin]

Bonnacon can pop off any of the buffalo in the pop area ?

[Amele]

Bonnacon can pop off any of the buffalo in the pop area ?

question came up once before, I think.

ah, yeah it did: http://bluegartr.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=672249#p672249

start there and read the latter half of the page.

the short version is 'maybe'.

[Nightbreed]

I know this is probably a dumb question but for Galka BRD:

Vermy Cloak or Serket Ring worth it?

Right now @59 have about 320ish MP with Rolanberry Pie.

Rings I use now Astral/Ether.
RSE Body, Nobles Ribbon.

[Spekkio]

I know this is probably a dumb question but for Galka BRD:

Vermy Cloak or Serket Ring worth it?

Right now @59 have about 320ish MP with Rolanberry Pie.

Rings I use now Astral/Ether.
RSE Body, Nobles Ribbon.
serket isn't bad, but it's also fairly expensive. if you're feeling ritzy, go for it, but the chances you're going to need the extra MP over an ether isn't that high. as for the vermy, absolutely. MP only functions as a buffer, it's very literally a pool to draw from. if you never scrape the bottom or fill up completely, MP gear is wasted. refresh, on the other hand, enhances your endurance, your ability to KEEP that MP pool from degrading. having an additional refresh tick can easily make the difference between you getting that cure3 off to save your tank from your brain damaged whm and from him eating pavement. the short answer to your question is yes, both are good, the longer answer is that serket's more of a luxury good while vermy is, while not essential, very much more valuable, imo.

[Obev]

I have bard and red mage final artifact quests open.

If I talk to the Galka in Upper Jeuno, which artifact hands quest will this open?

[Kaylia]

I have bard and red mage final artifact quests open.

If I talk to the Galka in Upper Jeuno, which artifact hands quest will this open?
The job you are using to talk him. Was always like that, doesnt really matter what previous AF mission you did, as long you completed the weapon and started the 2nd.

[Tradition]

Did you complete the Boghertz quest for BRD and RDM? You can leave other AF quests open, but to get the Boghertz quest for other jobs you can't have it open on another job.

ex: I still have BRD body quest open (and completed hands), but when I get PLD high enough, I'll get the Boghertz quest for PLD hands.

Is that clear? I may have confused myself here :?

[Obev]

I've completed them both previously. I'm re-questing Red Mage hat and Bard legs to store the sets again, as I now have them +1'd.

[Secksi]

Anyone ever find Birdman Cape or Ravin Raven? I always theorized he was a lotto pop off one of the Bhoot at Periqia, but I could never get people out there, and the one time I did I was perditioned very quickly and only a whm with me. This was a linkshell ago though, and I haven't tried in ages.

Anyway, has anyone ever killed the 2 or 3 over and over that pop there to see if maybe it pops? If not I might get some people out there and try again.

[Talisien]

What's the right sub for my soon to be 50 (48 and a half right now) Samurai? I got a soboro the other day and was reading the Ringthree3 thread about Brutal Earring. Do I continue with /thf even though Warrior finally gets double attack at sam50/war25? Should I be using /drg for Jumps?

I'm too poor to be /rng I'm afraid.

Thanks. I assume at 60 I'll go back to /thf for SATA, so it's really just 50-59 I'm worried about.

[Credos]

What's the right sub for my soon to be 50 (48 and a half right now) Samurai? I got a soboro the other day and was reading the Ringthree3 thread about Brutal Earring. Do I continue with /thf even though Warrior finally gets double attack at sam50/war25? Should I be using /drg for Jumps?

I'm too poor to be /rng I'm afraid.

Thanks. I assume at 60 I'll go back to /thf for SATA, so it's really just 50-59 I'm worried about.

I personally always -hated- /THF. Double Attack, Berserk, Defender are such great JA that I didn't want to lose them for SA and TA.

I'd suggest going /WAR all the way to 75.

[theo]

Sub WAR.

Enpi/Jinpu are pretty lame, and the fact that you are using soboro makes them even weaker. With that in mind, the name of the game is DoT, and Berserk is the best way to augment that. And even if you want to argue that Double Attack JT will somehow hurt Soboro performance, don't forget that the Soboro multi-hit won't proc on weapon skills but the JT does. Subbing THF just isn't worth it.

Prepatch I took SAM/WAR 50-72 with Soboro and I outparsed every single person I came up against, with the exception of another Soboro-wielder who happened to have better gear than I did. Its a lot of fun :)

[Spekkio]

What's the right sub for my soon to be 50 (48 and a half right now) Samurai? I got a soboro the other day and was reading the Ringthree3 thread about Brutal Earring. Do I continue with /thf even though Warrior finally gets double attack at sam50/war25? Should I be using /drg for Jumps?

I'm too poor to be /rng I'm afraid.

Thanks. I assume at 60 I'll go back to /thf for SATA, so it's really just 50-59 I'm worried about.

I personally always -hated- /THF. Double Attack, Berserk, Defender are such great JA that I didn't want to lose them for SA and TA.

I'd suggest going /WAR all the way to 75.
please correct me if i'm wrong, i'm not a melee so it's very plausible, but when subbing thf, isn't the only effect of SA to force the next hit to crit? from what i've read on the boards here, it seems like normal hits are pushing well and good into the crit range, making SA almost obsolete, assuming the nerf bat doesn't hit too hard when it comes. as such, there would be very little reason at all to sub thf on sam, even at the lower lvl range, since things like attack boost and berserk from /war would be so attractive.

[Talisien]

What's the right sub for my soon to be 50 (48 and a half right now) Samurai? I got a soboro the other day and was reading the Ringthree3 thread about Brutal Earring. Do I continue with /thf even though Warrior finally gets double attack at sam50/war25? Should I be using /drg for Jumps?

I'm too poor to be /rng I'm afraid.

Thanks. I assume at 60 I'll go back to /thf for SATA, so it's really just 50-59 I'm worried about.

I personally always -hated- /THF. Double Attack, Berserk, Defender are such great JA that I didn't want to lose them for SA and TA.

I'd suggest going /WAR all the way to 75.
please correct me if i'm wrong, i'm not a melee so it's very plausible, but when subbing thf, isn't the only effect of SA to force the next hit to crit? from what i've read on the boards here, it seems like normal hits are pushing well and good into the crit range, making SA almost obsolete, assuming the nerf bat doesn't hit too hard when it comes. as such, there would be very little reason at all to sub thf on sam, even at the lower lvl range, since things like attack boost and berserk from /war would be so attractive.

I read the same, but even eating Chiefkabobs and with as much +attack gear as I can possibly attain (including Okotes, republic sub, walkure mask, earrings, swordbelt+1, hasso, etc) I still see Tachi:enpi (no SA) do 180avg on ITs and with 120-180TP Sneak Attacks I see 390-483 on Enpi. That was off last night's parse at 47-48 against Rumble Crawlers.

[Amele]

/thf is a horrible sub for soboro sam (but you can get away with it at 50 because soboro still does good per hit damage)

you will be weaponskilling really frequently and hitting a lot with a soboro - so increasing the damage you do every single hit (with /war) will significantly outweigh the (still 1/min) crit bonus to enpi/jinpu.

personally, I've been using sam/nin since the update, but that may not be entirely necessary at 50.

grats on the soboro though talisien^^

[Talisien]

/thf is a horrible sub for soboro sam (but you can get away with it at 50 because soboro still does good per hit damage)

you will be weaponskilling really frequently and hitting a lot with a soboro - so increasing the damage you do every single hit (with /war) will significantly outweigh the (still 1/min) crit bonus to enpi/jinpu.

personally, I've been using sam/nin since the update, but that may not be entirely necessary at 50.

grats on the soboro though talisien^^

Thanks Amele^^ Got it at the cost of a 7 hour camp and enough drama bombs to start a third world war, but it was worth it.

I've been considering /nin now when I don't get a group with a Pally, but I've been lucky enough to have a RDM + WHM in most of my parties, so I just soak up the extra healing. I'll have to see what my gear translates soboro into (only missing Voyager sallet I think, though once I hit 60 my gear will turn crappy again (need a swift belt)). I can tank once my SA WS goes off since the mob is at 30% after bursts, but with Soboro if I'm firing off at 100 10 seconds into the fight, I'm gonna be tanking the whole way home.

[evilpaul]

Are Wivre BLM soloable? (By gaiter-less mere mortal ones.)

[Credos]

What's the right sub for my soon to be 50 (48 and a half right now) Samurai? I got a soboro the other day and was reading the Ringthree3 thread about Brutal Earring. Do I continue with /thf even though Warrior finally gets double attack at sam50/war25? Should I be using /drg for Jumps?

I'm too poor to be /rng I'm afraid.

Thanks. I assume at 60 I'll go back to /thf for SATA, so it's really just 50-59 I'm worried about.

I personally always -hated- /THF. Double Attack, Berserk, Defender are such great JA that I didn't want to lose them for SA and TA.

I'd suggest going /WAR all the way to 75.
please correct me if i'm wrong, i'm not a melee so it's very plausible, but when subbing thf, isn't the only effect of SA to force the next hit to crit? from what i've read on the boards here, it seems like normal hits are pushing well and good into the crit range, making SA almost obsolete, assuming the nerf bat doesn't hit too hard when it comes. as such, there would be very little reason at all to sub thf on sam, even at the lower lvl range, since things like attack boost and berserk from /war would be so attractive.

I was an old school SAM, back when melee actually SCed and the like, SAM was sometimes expected to sub THF to close with Gekko. I personally stopped leveling SAM for a while because people expected me to sub THF and it just plain sucked. Apart from that, there are people who still actually sub thf for the bigger WS damage (They still don't understand DoT). Shit, I had a SAM who was subbing RNG, after the 2h update was spamming sidewinder on Mamool (Nyzul) with Scorpion Arrows :? . I think a lot of the time some people lack the ability to know when to sub what jobs.

Just go with /WAR, it's more DoT and personally I think one of if not the best subjobs for every melee class in FFXI. (Yes I know it's also a great main job)

[Amele]

I think sam/rng still has its place (it's just not on mamool at nyzul lol) although certainly not with scorpion arrows :?

but yeah, unless you actually need the hate control of /thf, sam/war will let you do more over time.

if it's just survivability, I'd probably go sam/nin over sam/thf anyway (esp. at 75 since you can't combine SA and overwhelm)

[Credos]

I think sam/rng still has its place (it's just not on mamool at nyzul lol) although certainly not with scorpion arrows :?

but yeah, unless you actually need the hate control of /thf, sam/war will let you do more over time.

if it's just survivability, I'd probably go sam/nin over sam/thf anyway (esp. at 75 since you can't combine SA and overwhelm)

SAM/RNG is definitely a viable option for certain camps; but I think that was before the two handed change; I haven't played it in a while but I'd imagine that the recent update made it even better to use GKT over Archery.

[Amele]

I think sam/rng still has its place (it's just not on mamool at nyzul lol) although certainly not with scorpion arrows :?

but yeah, unless you actually need the hate control of /thf, sam/war will let you do more over time.

if it's just survivability, I'd probably go sam/nin over sam/thf anyway (esp. at 75 since you can't combine SA and overwhelm)

SAM/RNG is definitely a viable option for certain camps; but I think that was before the two handed change; I haven't played it in a while but I'd imagine that the recent update made it even better to use GKT over Archery.

yes and no, soboro is still wrank capped and still has a base damage of only 40.

assuming your r.acc is good enough then it just comes down to brass tacks between:
52+75%~str * large_pdif * 1.75 vs 129+~16%str+~25%agi * smaller_pdif * 5.0

I suspect that's a close enough competition (especially if you have a piercing bonus) to make it an option in some places.

if you're using hagun it's a bit closer, since both will be wrank 8 it'll be:

91+75%~str * m_pdif * 2.0 vs 129+~16%str+~25%agi * r_pdif * 5.0

which will mostly come down to whether .75str is enough to make up .16str+.25agi+38 and whether m_pdif is large enough compared to r_pdif to make up the 2.0 vs. 5.0 fTP.

[Epical]

I know some people are going to hate me for this, but can someone layman's terms the whole sea gorget deal (I hate trying to comprehend posts like the one above this when trying to find a conclusion for something)? I thought I had it down but then I revisited the the issue, and apparently they're only really worth it for single-hit WS (over PCC on multiple hit)? Would this mean all the time I spent on farming items for Breeze (Jin) and Flame (Asuran) was wasted? =(

[Akroma_Seraph]

I know some people are going to hate me for this, but can someone layman's terms the whole sea gorget deal (I hate trying to comprehend posts like the one above this when trying to find a conclusion for something)? I thought I had it down but then I revisited the the issue, and apparently they're only really worth it for single-hit WS (over PCC on multiple hit)? Would this mean all the time I spent on farming items for Breeze (Jin) and Flame (Asuran) was wasted? =(

Ok, this is my understanding on the matter. I have a good grasp of the math that is used (Its really quite simple), and I've had the conversation with Nagamaki (hes my LS leader ironically) and this is basically how it goes:

Single-hit WS: Gorget is going to win.

Lower-Number-Multi-Hit WS: Gorget is going to win if your ACC is decent at all. Examples of this would be with WS's such as Shark Bite. This also Happens with Jin, if say your using Sushi and keep a high ACC during WS. If your ACC isn't high in WS gear for example, PCC will end up showing better numbers.

High-Number Multi-hit WS: PCC Is going to win the majority of the time. By majority I mean any time your not fighting something that you have 95% ACC rate on in WS gear and your WS isn't more than say, 4 hits.

Thats basically how it works in short. If you go by number of hits, Gorget=1-2 (3+4 Sometimes) PCC=5+ hits.

[Tajin]

Are Wivre BLM soloable? (By gaiter-less mere mortal ones.)

they should have less hp than a king buffalo (just assuming though) and they can be slept.

[Vigilia]

Are Wivre BLM soloable? (By gaiter-less mere mortal ones.)

they should have less hp than a king buffalo (just assuming though) and they can be slept.

Definitely yes, I've watched couple of non-gaiter BLMs and even one RDM soloing them during my last few colibri parties. Sleep and Gravity both seemed to work well. One pretty average-geared taru BLM was keeping the middle section clear of wivres while he was there.

[Byrd]

Fact of Fiction: Ru'Aun Gardens + Light Weather + Lightday = Groundskeeper (or maybe pot too?) become sight aggro? A few people mentioned this like it was common knowledge, but i've never experienced it that I can remember, or heard any stories of like "Holy shit they all aggro'd us", someone must have an interesting story if this is true?

Another urban legend Fact or Fiction? If your fomor hate gets high enough, they can aggro you through sneak. I've never seen it happen, I've heard of it happening, but never known anyone it's happened to personally. I think it's bull, as you need max Fomor hate to spawn the Swift Belt NM's, and they don't aggro through sneeak at that point.

[Osede]

Fact of Fiction: Ru'Aun Gardens + Light Weather + Lightday = Groundskeeper (or maybe pot too?) become sight aggro? A few people mentioned this like it was common knowledge, but i've never experienced it that I can remember, or heard any stories of like "Holy shit they all aggro'd us", someone must have an interesting story if this is true?

Another urban legend Fact or Fiction? If your fomor hate gets high enough, they can aggro you through sneak. I've never seen it happen, I've heard of it happening, but never known anyone it's happened to personally. I think it's bull, as you need max Fomor hate to spawn the Swift Belt NM's, and they don't aggro through sneeak at that point.

perhaps that it is sneak on during yellow or red hp? Since that formor not only aggro by sound but also by hp.

[Epical]

I know some people are going to hate me for this, but can someone layman's terms the whole sea gorget deal (I hate trying to comprehend posts like the one above this when trying to find a conclusion for something)? I thought I had it down but then I revisited the the issue, and apparently they're only really worth it for single-hit WS (over PCC on multiple hit)? Would this mean all the time I spent on farming items for Breeze (Jin) and Flame (Asuran) was wasted? =(

Ok, this is my understanding on the matter. I have a good grasp of the math that is used (Its really quite simple), and I've had the conversation with Nagamaki (hes my LS leader ironically) and this is basically how it goes:

Single-hit WS: Gorget is going to win.

Lower-Number-Multi-Hit WS: Gorget is going to win if your ACC is decent at all. Examples of this would be with WS's such as Shark Bite. This also Happens with Jin, if say your using Sushi and keep a high ACC during WS. If your ACC isn't high in WS gear for example, PCC will end up showing better numbers.

High-Number Multi-hit WS: PCC Is going to win the majority of the time. By majority I mean any time your not fighting something that you have 95% ACC rate on in WS gear and your WS isn't more than say, 4 hits.

Thats basically how it works in short. If you go by number of hits, Gorget=1-2 (3+4 Sometimes) PCC=5+ hits.
Awesome, thanks.

[Bwelch]

So... :oops:

I'm sure this is in the Handbook but what is the unit of measurement used in the R and S connectivity status? XD

[Tomiko]

Fact of Fiction: Ru'Aun Gardens + Light Weather + Lightday = Groundskeeper (or maybe pot too?) become sight aggro? A few people mentioned this like it was common knowledge, but i've never experienced it that I can remember, or heard any stories of like "Holy shit they all aggro'd us", someone must have an interesting story if this is true?

Like Bagel said, I'm pretty sure they've fixed this.

I've personally had this happen to me during Light Weather (not sure of day). And it wasn't because I was closer than usual, it was walking/running in the same routes I usually run.

Example: Walking in the middle of Despot hall would get you aggro. When traveling island to island, I couldn't walk along the edge without getting aggro.

Note: This only applied to the Groundskeepers in the walls which are already sight aggro. Light Weather only seemed to enhance their aggro range.

[Winter85]

Cynoprosopi in Limbus NW Apollyon, does it flail too?

Yes.

and it's awesome.
Best way to lose a limbus, ever.

I see. I'll be more careful next time I'm there.

[BRP]

Setting: Two BLMs duoing fafnir clone.

Plot: "I'm a DRG and I'm going to attack fafnir from behind while he binded"

Moral: That DRG was stupid.

[Tyramut]

Which ToAU ring should I choose?

Currently am 75 NIN, MNK and SAM with two Sniper ring's +1. :(

[evilpaul]

melee one's better in Assaults than Sniper+1s

[Amele]

Which ToAU ring should I choose?

Currently am 75 NIN, MNK and SAM with two Sniper ring's +1. :(

that's an easy choice, you can't use any of the other ones currently.

so unless you're about to level a ranger corsair or mage job get the melee ring, or wait.

[Falaras]

Why do Samurais use Hachiman Kote+1? Like I know a few of the Sams that surf these forums do, Rukenshin, Richardd, ect. But I just don't see why you would take Kote+1 over Sune-ate.
Stats run down:
Kote+1 + Fumas = STR+5 Haste+3%
Okote + Hachiman Feet = Atk+20 STR+2 OR Dusk + Hachiman Feet HAste+3% Atk+5 STR+2.
So why do Sams continually wear these?

[Kaylia]

Usukane feet are pretty hot if you have them.

[Allundaria]

Why do Samurais use Hachiman Kote+1? Like I know a few of the Sams that surf these forums do, Rukenshin, Richardd, ect. But I just don't see why you would take Kote+1 over Sune-ate.
Stats run down:
Kote+1 + Fumas = STR+5 Haste+3%
Okote + Hachiman Feet = Atk+20 STR+2 OR Dusk + Hachiman Feet HAste+3% Atk+5 STR+2.
So why do Sams continually wear these?

Store TP +9

[Falaras]

Why do Samurais use Hachiman Kote+1? Like I know a few of the Sams that surf these forums do, Rukenshin, Richardd, ect. But I just don't see why you would take Kote+1 over Sune-ate.
Stats run down:
Kote+1 + Fumas = STR+5 Haste+3%
Okote + Hachiman Feet = Atk+20 STR+2 OR Dusk + Hachiman Feet HAste+3% Atk+5 STR+2.
So why do Sams continually wear these?

Store TP +9
Using Store TP+5 and Store TP+9 is the exact same thing if your aiming for a 6 hit. Unless you merit Zanshin I guess?
Edit: I think I figured it out, the extra +4 Store TP during TP gain phase lets you WS in STR gear instead of Store TP? Please tell me if this is right.

[SamanosukeShiva]

that is correct, you can WS in alky instead of hmn kote and get 16TP back, +17TP x5hit you'd still ended up with 101TP at the 6th hit.

and i guess relic GK is also have 437 delay, which require abit more store TP to have 6hit set up, but that doesnt matter anymore after you do the 1st kaiten which give like +10 store TP.

[Bagel]

I'm not sure about richard, but also keep in mind that Ruke has a relic with 13 less delay than usual gktn.

[Falaras]

Ruke also WSs in no Hachiman though, thats how I figured it out was looking at his Livejournal WS setup and thought something was missing. Thanks for the responses guess I need to work on Hkote+1 now.

[Eldelphia]

Does going up a floor in temenos count as zoning?

Reason I ask is cos we had a stupid moment where we rushed something and 4 peeps died near the tele to the last floor. The remaining handful went up and we expected to be able to get up. Also tonberries did not reset and were constantly making the 'hello, I'll be your aggro for today' noise. Never really come up before >.>. The guys upstairs tried to finish but wiped without any real healing and then the berries reset.

[Everlasting]

Does going up a floor in temenos count as zoning?

Reason I ask is cos we had a stupid moment where we rushed something and 4 peeps died near the tele to the last floor. The remaining handful went up and we expected to be able to get up. Also tonberries did not reset and were constantly making the 'hello, I'll be your aggro for today' noise. Never really come up before >.>. The guys upstairs tried to finish but wiped without any real healing and then the berries reset.

I had the same problem with a floor of Mandys and the answer I got is it happens sometimes, it's a bug type thing.

Ugh, the forums at the thread or something, was gonna find it, but that's the answer: It happens sometimes.

[evilpaul]

It's mentioned on the Wiki too.

[Delekii]

No-one on for me to test with at the moment, does Minne get multiplied by food/ja?

I guess similarly for attack and minuet and food/ja as well.

Just testing on BLU/WAR with a Taco, 326 base def goes to 411 with taco, then 411 + (411*1.25) + (411*1.5) = 718 with both Defender and Cocoon. Is Minne added onto the base pre food? Post food pre-defender?


Minne 3+4 with +1 instrument give 100def, so can I expect:
426(429 with taco vit) *1.25 > 536 + 134 + 268 = 938 ?
326(329) *1.25 > 411 + 100 = 511 + 127 + 255 = 893 ?
326(329) *1.25 > 411 + 102 + 205 = 718 + 100 = 818 ?

Not too important, just interested and as I said, no-one on to test minnes with..

[VZX]

No-one on for me to test with at the moment, does Minne get multiplied by food/ja?

I guess similarly for attack and minuet and food/ja as well.

Just testing on BLU/WAR with a Taco, 326 base def goes to 411 with taco, then 411 + (411*1.25) + (411*1.5) = 718 with both Defender and Cocoon. Is Minne added onto the base pre food? Post food pre-defender?


Minne 3+4 with +1 instrument give 100def, so can I expect:
426(429 with taco vit) *1.25 > 536 + 134 + 268 = 938 ?
326(329) *1.25 > 411 + 100 = 511 + 127 + 255 = 893 ?
326(329) *1.25 > 411 + 102 + 205 = 718 + 100 = 818 ?

Not too important, just interested and as I said, no-one on to test minnes with..
On "attack" case, the order is minuet -> atk food -> berserk
so probably it's the same for defense: minne -> def food -> defender/coccoon

[Fayttt]

Quick question. What's better: Magic Acc+4 or Int/Mnd+5? (I'm referring to the mage TOAU ring vs snow/aqua depending on spells casted rings btw)

[fobber]

Just two quick random questions.

1. For KSNM 30 - Operation desert storm, does scrops build a sleep resist rate?

2. If a negative buff such as Burn/Elegy was casted on a player with stoneskin up, do they get the negative stats?

[zagex]

1. For KSNM 30 - Operation desert storm, does scrops build a sleep resist rate?
I'm fairly sure no. I've wiped in a manaburn before, and we just reraised and started over with no problems.



2. If a negative buff such as Burn/Elegy was casted on a player with stoneskin up, do they get the negative stats?
Yes, you do. Stoneskin will only prevent the -hp on the dots for the elemental debuffs.

[Kaylia]

Quick question. What's better: Magic Acc+4 or Int/Mnd+5? (I'm referring to the mage TOAU ring vs snow/aqua depending on spells casted rings btw)
4 m.acc give a better accuracy than 5int/mnd according to most test, but I would go with mnd/int for potency, unless it doesnt matter for that spell (aspir, drain, sleep) or stuff that resist a ton.

[Osede]

What is the stun proc rate in the platinium grip (both nq and hq) on the type of mobs like VT-IV, dynamis xar, proto-ultima/omega?

and for pole and claymoure grip. Which better for gaxe war? (I bet it would be shit is situational for this lol)

[Sargas]

Does going up a floor in temenos count as zoning?

Reason I ask is cos we had a stupid moment where we rushed something and 4 peeps died near the tele to the last floor. The remaining handful went up and we expected to be able to get up. Also tonberries did not reset and were constantly making the 'hello, I'll be your aggro for today' noise. Never really come up before >.>. The guys upstairs tried to finish but wiped without any real healing and then the berries reset.

As far as I know, going up a floor in limbus doesn't count as zoning. The tonberries still had hate on the people who ported up, but couldn't get to them, so they stayed active at the teleporter until everyone had died and hate was finally reset completely. I believe the dead people could have reraised and ported up without aggro as long as they did nothing else. Performing any sort of action like casting a spell or using an item on themselves would've gotten the tonberries' attention because of the funny alliance hate system in limbus.

[Clipse]

What is the stun proc rate in the platinium grip (both nq and hq) on the type of mobs like VT-IV, dynamis xar, proto-ultima/omega?

and for pole and claymoure grip. Which better for gaxe war? (I bet it would be shit is situational for this lol)
Tried out the NQ while skilling up on Robber Crabs in Boyahda Tree. Proc'ed once every 2-3 mobs or so, had it proc twice on the same mob only once the whole 2 hours I was there. I know you asked for VT-IT mobs, but I assume the proc rate would only be worse on higher lvl mobs.

[Amele]

What is the stun proc rate in the platinium grip (both nq and hq) on the type of mobs like VT-IV, dynamis xar, proto-ultima/omega?

and for pole and claymoure grip. Which better for gaxe war? (I bet it would be shit is situational for this lol)
Tried out the NQ while skilling up on Robber Crabs in Boyahda Tree. Proc'ed once every 2-3 mobs or so, had it proc twice on the same mob only once the whole 2 hours I was there. I know you asked for VT-IT mobs, but I assume the proc rate would only be worse on higher lvl mobs.

someone estimated ~6.25% in one of the patch information threads (not sure which) on the +1 grip. depending on how fast you were killing this might be consistent.

[Spekkio]

1. For KSNM 30 - Operation desert storm, does scrops build a sleep resist rate?
I'm fairly sure no. I've wiped in a manaburn before, and we just reraised and started over with no problems.

i think they do, but i know mob resistance resets if they go unclaimed and heal to full. you can see this in mobs that become grav immune (that immunity builds FAST on many mobs) but if you wipe, reset, and try again, it will forget its immunity.

[Talisien]

Can someone give me some help understanding TP return and weapon skills?

I get 14tp on a typical swing (i'm a 52 sam/war with soboro and +6 store tp) so I assume that # is 14.x (does someone have that formula handy?) because I (according to other people) have a 7 hit setup, I haven't really tested it.

Anyways, on Weapon skills I get the following #s for Tachi: Jinpu and Tachi: Enpi:

0 - Miss
1 - This is when I miss on both hits but a double attack goes off?
13 - This is a hit/miss no double attacks I think
14 - This is a hit/hit I think
15 - This is a hit/hit + double attack
16 - This is a hit + double attack / hit + double attack

I guess I'm asking a few things, 1) Is that little list right? 2) Can soboro proc on weapon skills? 2a) Is a soboro proc treated like a double attack? 3) What's the formula for tp return on a swing, and why does my base swing give 14.x but a 1 hit of my ws give less than that.

Thanks!

[Amele]

Can someone give me some help understanding TP return and weapon skills?

I get 14tp on a typical swing (i'm a 52 sam/war with soboro and +6 store tp) so I assume that # is 14.x (does someone have that formula handy?) because I (according to other people) have a 7 hit setup, I haven't really tested it.

Anyways, on Weapon skills I get the following #s for Tachi: Jinpu and Tachi: Enpi:

0 - Miss
1 - This is when I miss on both hits but a double attack goes off?
13 - This is a hit/miss no double attacks I think
14 - This is a hit/hit I think
15 - This is a hit/hit + double attack
16 - This is a hit + double attack / hit + double attack

I guess I'm asking a few things, 1) Is that little list right? 2) Can soboro proc on weapon skills? 2a) Is a soboro proc treated like a double attack? 3) What's the formula for tp return on a swing, and why does my base swing give 14.x but a 1 hit of my ws give less than that.

Thanks!

this first hit gives your normal tp gain (in this case, 14.4 TP per hit) the second hit gives 1, each connected double attack gives 1.

the tp return you should expect to see (unless you are macroing out your store TP gear for ws) is:

0 - no hits,
1 - missed primary, hit 1 secondary
2 - missed primary, hit 2 secondary (second hit + DA or something)
3 - missed primary, hit 3 secondary (second hit + 2 DA.. this is super unlikely)
14 - hit primary
15 - hit primary+ 1 secondary hit
16 - hit primary + 2 secondary (second hit + DA)
17 - hit primary + 3 secondary (second hit + 2 DA.. this is super unlikely)

if you macro out the store TP gear for weaponskill, then you will get 1 less TP on the WS returns

store TP at 50 is 20 from trait, +6 from gear. store tp works like: TP * (1+StoreTP/100) so TP * 1.26 in this case.

TP for a 450 delay weapon is 11.5

soboro can't proc on weaponskills.

[Talisien]

Can someone give me some help understanding TP return and weapon skills?

I get 14tp on a typical swing (i'm a 52 sam/war with soboro and +6 store tp) so I assume that # is 14.x (does someone have that formula handy?) because I (according to other people) have a 7 hit setup, I haven't really tested it.

Anyways, on Weapon skills I get the following #s for Tachi: Jinpu and Tachi: Enpi:

0 - Miss
1 - This is when I miss on both hits but a double attack goes off?
13 - This is a hit/miss no double attacks I think
14 - This is a hit/hit I think
15 - This is a hit/hit + double attack
16 - This is a hit + double attack / hit + double attack

I guess I'm asking a few things, 1) Is that little list right? 2) Can soboro proc on weapon skills? 2a) Is a soboro proc treated like a double attack? 3) What's the formula for tp return on a swing, and why does my base swing give 14.x but a 1 hit of my ws give less than that.

Thanks!

this first hit gives your normal tp gain (in this case, 14.4 TP per hit) the second hit gives 1, each connected double attack gives 1.

the tp return you should expect to see (unless you are macroing out your store TP gear for ws) is:

0 - no hits,
1 - missed primary, hit 1 secondary
2 - missed primary, hit 2 secondary (second hit + DA or something)
3 - missed primary, hit 3 secondary (second hit + 2 DA.. this is super unlikely)
14 - hit primary
15 - hit primary+ 1 secondary hit
16 - hit primary + 2 secondary (second hit + DA)
17 - hit primary + 3 secondary (second hit + 2 DA.. this is super unlikely)

if you macro out the store TP gear for weaponskill, then you will get 1 less TP on the WS returns

store TP at 50 is 20 from trait, +6 from gear. store tp works like: TP * (1+StoreTP/100) so TP * 1.26 in this case.

TP for a 450 delay weapon is 11.5

soboro can't proc on weaponskills.

So *this* is why I've been spotting a few 99s in my log again lately. I should be keeping in the +6 during WS so that a 13 + 14.4x6 (=99) doesn't occur.

What do people do on multi-hit weaponskills in terms of accuracy, do you watch for your TP return and make sure you're getting double hits? Or do you just load on the strength anyways? Now that I know I'm getting around 30% single hit WS in my full str gear, maybe I'll rethink this...

Thanks Amele.

[VZX]

What do people do on multi-hit weaponskills in terms of accuracy, do you watch for your TP return and make sure you're getting double hits? Or do you just load on the strength anyways? Now that I know I'm getting around 30% single hit WS in my full str gear, maybe I'll rethink this...
This is coming from BLU/vorpal blade perspective

my full DW vorpal TP return is 13, If I got 12TP+ quite frequently, I consider my accuracy is good (4 out of 5 hits) and can load STR gear if there's other slot I can load STR with minimal accuracy penalty.

[Amele]

sam: focus on accuracy until you get tachi: yukikaze, you'll do more damage landing both hits than you will pumping a single hit on enpi and jinpu.

once you have tachi: yuki, have enough accuracy to *hit* and load strength from there. (remember, you need less accuracy to land one hit 85% of the time than you need to land 2 hits 85% of the time, no matter how counter-intuitive that sounds)

only use enpi or jinpu after you get yuki if it's absolutely critical for a skillchain (hint: it's probably not)

[Talisien]

This is coming from BLU/vorpal blade perspective

my full DW vorpal TP return is 13, If I got 12TP+ quite frequently, I consider my accuracy is good (4 out of 5 hits) and can load STR gear if there's other slot I can load STR with minimal accuracy penalty.


sam: focus on accuracy until you get tachi: yukikaze, you'll do more damage landing both hits than you will pumping a single hit on enpi and jinpu.

once you have tachi: yuki, have enough accuracy to *hit* and load strength from there. (remember, you need less accuracy to land one hit 85% of the time than you need to land 2 hits 85% of the time, no matter how counter-intuitive that sounds)

only use enpi or jinpu after you get yuki if it's absolutely critical for a skillchain (hint: it's probably not)

Oh don't worry, I'm counting the skill-ups till 200 ;)

And thanks for this, I will definitely up my accuracy on WS and probably parse even better +)

[Spartin]

Does going up a floor in temenos count as zoning?

Reason I ask is cos we had a stupid moment where we rushed something and 4 peeps died near the tele to the last floor. The remaining handful went up and we expected to be able to get up. Also tonberries did not reset and were constantly making the 'hello, I'll be your aggro for today' noise. Never really come up before >.>. The guys upstairs tried to finish but wiped without any real healing and then the berries reset.


Happened to my ls once and the tonberries didnt move. They still had hate on the people upstairs so all the did was move further in and the tonberries followed the people upstairs. We could reraise after that and jump on the elevator without any aggro at all.

[Damane]

If I am doing consistently 843 dmg slugshots, does that mean I need to stack up more STR to upp the cap? Because I cant believe I reached my r.att to STR ratio cap with just one chaos roll and a DRK in the pt... It was way strange for me seeing all my slugshots do the exact same dmg.

[VZX]

If I am doing consistently 843 dmg slugshots, does that mean I need to stack up more STR to upp the cap? Because I cant believe I reached my r.att to STR ratio cap with just one chaos roll and a DRK in the pt... It was way strange for me seeing all my slugshots do the exact same dmg.
There's no way slugshot capped at 843 only unless you're using incredibly weak ranged weapons + ammo

Short answer : you're in cRatio range 0.9~1.1 of ranged pDIF. If there was no defense down in any kind of form, adding 2 effects would bring your damage up (i.e. Dia II and acid bolt or frightful roar).

[Damane]

There's no way slugshot capped at 843 only unless you're using incredibly weak ranged weapons + ammo

Short answer : you're in cRatio range 0.9~1.1 of ranged pDIF. If there was no defense down in any kind of form, adding 2 effects would bring your damage up (i.e. Dia II and acid bolt or frightful roar).

then I find it strange why my slugshot was allways hitting for 843. well there was no form of defense down. but what was strange was that it didnt even matter what chaos roll number I rolled... I did hit allways for 843. with an XI or with a VIII didnt matter (which is quiet a difference in attack numbers). I am confused :?

EDIT: I used martial gun (39 base dmg) and steel bullets (70 base dmg)btw.

[Damane]

There's no way slugshot capped at 843 only unless you're using incredibly weak ranged weapons + ammo

Short answer : you're in cRatio range 0.9~1.1 of ranged pDIF. If there was no defense down in any kind of form, adding 2 effects would bring your damage up (i.e. Dia II and acid bolt or frightful roar).

then I find it strange why my slugshot was allways hitting for 843. well there was no form of defense down. but what was strange was that it didnt even matter what chaos roll number I rolled... I did hit allways for 843. with an XI or with a VIII didnt matter (which is quiet a difference in attack numbers). I am confused :?

EDIT: I used martial gun (39 base dmg) and steel bullets (70 base dmg)btw.

EDIT2: even the BRDs minuet IV didnt change the number at all coupled with my chaos roll together.

[VZX]

What mob is it?

[Anakron]

What would be generally considered the most "efficient" way for getting a 6-hit setup for SAMs? That is, getting 6-hit while compromising as little as possible. Given that you need ~45 Store TP for a 6-hit (450 delay GKT), and 25% comes from SAM JTs themselves, assuming no access to Askar or Usukane, where would you get the extra 20?

Some possibilities:


Rajas 5
Merits 0-10
Hachiman Kote 8
Hachiman Sune-ate 5
Chivalrous Chain 1
Brutal Earring 1


You may need a little more than 45 Store TP if you use a different setup for the WS hit (e.g. Alky instead of possibly Hachiman Kote), so what if that's factored as well?

Or is the whole 6-hit thing not worth it to begin with?

[Amele]

What would be generally considered the most "efficient" way for getting a 6-hit setup for SAMs? That is, getting 6-hit while compromising as little as possible. Given that you need ~45 Store TP for a 6-hit (450 delay GKT), and 25% comes from SAM JTs themselves, assuming no access to Askar or Usukane, where would you get the extra 20?

Some possibilities:


Rajas 5
Merits 0-10
Hachiman Kote 8
Hachiman Sune-ate 5
Chivalrous Chain 1
Brutal Earring 1


You may need a little more than 45 Store TP if you use a different setup for the WS hit (e.g. Alky instead of possibly Hachiman Kote), so what if that's factored as well?

Or is the whole 6-hit thing not worth it to begin with?

it is worth it. 46 store tp is how much you need.

you must weaponskill in 46 if you want the benefits of the 6 hit setup.

25 (trait) + 10 merits leaves you with 11 to get in gear.

the easiest setup in terms of slots is brutal + rajas + hachiman feet. you should use dusk gloves or myo+1 hands for TP probably.

alternately, hachiman kote + rajas will do it too (without the brutal) I'd use either amir boots or fuma's for TP.

hachiman kote +1 will allow you to weaponskill in just rajas+brutal, but are much more expensive.

you could also weaponskill in myochin haidate+1 and chivalrous chain if you wanted to use (say) amir feet and enky's for ws.


if you don't have b.haidate, I'd recommend using myo legs+1, chivalrous, fuma's over shura haidate, justice torque, hachiman. (personal preference for haste).

[Niiro]

it is worth it. 46 store tp is how much you need.

you must weaponskill in 46 if you want the benefits of the 6 hit setup.

This isn't necessarily true.

Example:

While meleeing you have:
25 traits
10 merits
5 rajas
8 hachiman kote

Total 48 Store TP, 17 TP per hit.

On weaponskill you have:
25 traits
10 merits
5 Rajas

Total 40 Store TP, 16.1 TP per hit.

You're free to use whatever STR gear you please on WS with no concern for store TP (alky's instead of hachiman kote, rutters instead of sune-ate, etc)

WS in 40 store TP = 16.1 TP

5 hits @ 48 store TP = 85 TP

Total TP after WS + 5 hits = 101.1

Allows freedom to max STR on WS while still maintaining a 6 hit setup.

[Deftscythe]

edit: should've read the past couple pages, asked and answered, sorry.

[sephir]

For Corsairs/Fishermen

For AF2(legs) im having problems fishing up the Hydrogauge. I have tried the following all off Whitegates Northern fishing Docks:

Composite Rod with Lugwoms, Rogue Rig, Little worms
Mithran Fishing rod with Rogue Rig, Little worms
Tarutaru Fishing rod with little worms and Rogue Rig.


none of which has worked after 15 hours of fishing. All of the above are based on friends(all who are 60+ cor) and what they used aswell as ffxiclopedia. So what did everyone use to fish up this item for Af2? and possibly where.

[Epical]

RNG to 37: 2x AGI+2 rings or Mighty/Vision combo? Also, is there anything I should be macroing in for bow WS? I'm going to just assume STR if I can, other than that don't bother?

[VZX]

RNG to 37: 2x AGI+2 rings or Mighty/Vision combo? Also, is there anything I should be macroing in for bow WS? I'm going to just assume STR if I can, other than that don't bother?
- racc ringx2 (horn, is it? I forgot), or you're trying to refer to earring slots?
- don't bother switching, there's only very few pieces you can choose to boost your damage. on top of it, WS multiplier still low

[Niiro]

Scorpion 35?

[Deftscythe]

Does the Walahra NPC still give out the water after you've gotten your turban?

[Epical]

Durrrr I completely forgot about those racc rings, thanks!

[Bloodanaki]

Just need a simple fast reply. Because im oriented to controller style play and heavily rely on macros, is there a command line to cancel such effects on yourself, like berserk, hasso, etc?

i.e. I want to be able to have a macro that will first cancel Hasso, than activate Seigan, followed by activating Third eye.

What would the macro look like?

[evilpaul]

I was under the impression only the most recently activated SAM 'stance' JA will do anything?

[Amele]

don't need to cancel hasso/seigan to activate seigan/hasso, they'll self overwrite each other.

[theo]

No, there is no command line to remove effects from yourself. Thankfully Seigan/Hasso overwrite eachother, so there is no need for manual cancellation.

[Bloodanaki]

Oh hahah wow, shows how long I haven't been in touch with using my SAM sub. It's honestly been since the first release of hasso and seigan that I have gone /SAM anywhere. Is my memory just wrong when I thought that at the time I had to manually cancel one of the effects to have the other activate?

Anyways still curious if there is a command line to remove effects?

[Bloodanaki]

No, there is no command line to remove effects from yourself.

Aww thats a shame. :(

Still I'm relieved that all I need is to active one or the other of SAMs abilities to overwrite.

[Aireiya]

Wouldn't it be fun if en-spells were pt targetable, and still did the additional damage based on the caster's stats?

[theo]

Wouldn't it be fun if en-spells were pt targetable, and still did the additional damage based on the caster's stats?

I'm not sure that this thread is the right place for completely random "what if" speculation, but I'm going to go with this for a second.

Yeah, it would be fun. For about 5 minutes. And then the cold cruel realization would sweep over me that I now not only had to keep the entire party hasted and cured, but also enspelled :|

And besides, enspell damage would be biased towards one-handed duel wielders. Do you really want to give out more biased advantages when the game is finally starting to become somewhat balanced?

[Osede]

Does the Walahra NPC still give out the water after you've gotten your turban?

yes

[Deftscythe]

Does the Walahra NPC still give out the water after you've gotten your turban?

yes

Great. Thanks. Now I can drink the bottle I've had in storage for a year. (I was saving it in case SE added some use for it.) Aged to perfection.

[Talisien]

How much strength do I need to replace Okotes on a weaponskill?

Is it as simple as saying 70% modifier means I need 30str to replace an okote? This obviously seems impossible.

Also is there a quick and dirty way to check how I'm balancing attack/strength for a WS? I've heard this is key to improving your WS numbers.

By the by, I'm a Sam and am mostly concerned with Tachi:Yukikaza and it's brethern (there's no functional difference right?).

Thanks +)

[Septimus]

Wouldn't it be fun if en-spells were pt targetable, and still did the additional damage based on the caster's stats?

I'm not sure that this thread is the right place for completely random "what if" speculation, but I'm going to go with this for a second.

Yeah, it would be fun. For about 5 minutes. And then the cold cruel realization would sweep over me that I now not only had to keep the entire party hasted and cured, but also enspelled :|

And besides, enspell damage would be biased towards one-handed duel wielders. Do you really want to give out more biased advantages when the game is finally starting to become somewhat balanced?

I'm having horrible visions of party chat with calls in it, unleashed the very second that the en-spells drop.

Adaman Hauberk, hold me. I am so frightened and cold.

[Amele]

How much strength do I need to replace Okotes on a weaponskill?

Is it as simple as saying 70% modifier means I need 30str to replace an okote? This obviously seems impossible.

Also is there a quick and dirty way to check how I'm balancing attack/strength for a WS? I've heard this is key to improving your WS numbers.

By the by, I'm a Sam and am mostly concerned with Tachi:Yukikaza and it's brethern (there's no functional difference right?).

Thanks +)

easiest answer: parse.

slightly more difficult answer, if you know your cRatio without anything in the hand slot vs. a typical level 70 monster, (a D-class VIT, war/war level 70 has defense ~281, so your cRatio at level 60 would be: ATT/281 - 0.05 * dLVL -> in this case, ATT/281 - 0.5.

and you can approximate your fstr value (a D-class VIT war/war level 70 has vit ~67) your fstr in this case is (STR - 67 + 4) / 4, capped at DMG/9+8 rounded down. (for soboro this is 12 max)

then you can compare (D+fstr1) * (cRatio1*1.2 - 0.4) * .75*str where fstr1 is the above fstr, and cRatio1 is your cRatio +0.07 (20/281) and str is your strength without the pallas's bracelets.

vs. (D+fstr2) * (cRatio2*1.2 - 0.4 ) * .75(str+9) where cRatio2 is the above cRatio, and fstr2 is the above fstr, with your strength 9 points higher recalculated.

if you'd like, PM me and I'll help you fill in all the calculations to see where you're at.

to answer the implied str vs. att. it's good to have lots of both, so you should generally go for whichever gets you the 'most' bonus in any particular slot (remembering that 1 str is also 1 att now)


tl;dr. personally, with my gear setup, I replaced the okotes with pallas's immediately after the update, (at 65) before, I wasn't sure, so I was mostly just using okotes.

[Seigfried Of Pandy]

is h2h considered 1h,2h, or its own category

[Ryko]

is h2h considered 1h,2h, or its own category

It counts as its own category

[evilpaul]

What, if anything, does magic-bursting Sleep do? More duration?

For whatever reason doing Dynamis-Windurst a few days ago people kept making Darkness on Monk mobs which would Hundred Fists immediately after and they'd get slept and move on to a diff mob until it wears off. It happened a bunch of times, but I never got to time it and they usually got finished off before they would have awakened anyway. :?

[Obev]

More accuracy I believe, but lack proof. If I could connect to POL I'd grab someone to skillchain > sleep on easy preys with a stopwatch.

[Amele]

sleep is a set duration unless it's resisted.

so just accuracy.

[fobber]

What is "generally" better for a necklace. Those torques that are dropped from sea gods or peacockc charm?

I guess I am referring for TP build.

For STR use chiv. chain?

[Amele]

What is "generally" better for a necklace. Those torques that are dropped from sea gods or peacockc charm?

I guess I am referring for TP build.

For STR use chiv. chain?

I would take 6 acc/7 att over 10 acc anyday.

[Tempyst]

Myochin Sune-Ate +1: Do they lose the evasion skill +5 from the NQ or is this a description error?

[SathFenrir]

What is "generally" better for a necklace. Those torques that are dropped from sea gods or peacockc charm?

I guess I am referring for TP build.

For STR use chiv. chain?

I would take 6 acc/7 att over 10 acc anyday.

Sea Torques are made of sunshine and happiness

[Septimus]

What is "generally" better for a necklace. Those torques that are dropped from sea gods or peacockc charm?

I guess I am referring for TP build.

For STR use chiv. chain?

I would take 6 acc/7 att over 10 acc anyday.

Sea Torques are made of sunshine and happiness

Unless you are dual-wielding two different weapon types.

[Spekkio]

sleep is a set duration unless it's resisted.

so just accuracy.
correct. bursting elegy does not increase the potency of slow, nor does bursting frost increase the DoT of it (i don't think at least...) on the other hand, if you happen to be having trouble sticking elegy and your melees happen to be making a darkness SC or something like that, bursting elegy can help a lot in sticking it. then again, if a mob is already eating an SC and an MB, there's probably not much of it left to be worth it. ^^

[fantasticdan]

Can you use the registration codes from a 360 version to play on PC?

[VZX]

is h2h considered 1h,2h, or its own category

It counts as its own category
Just want to make it clear

pDIF-wise , it's counted as 1h
fSTR-cap wise, it has its own category
fSTR-increment wise, it's counted as 1h

[Septimus]

is h2h considered 1h,2h, or its own category

It counts as its own category
Just want to make it clear

pDIF-wise , it's counted as 1h
fSTR-cap wise, it has its own category
fSTR-increment wise, it's counted as 1h

From what I remember hearing, hand-to-hand was originally going to allow people to equip two one-handed weapons. (Like dual wield, but only hand-to-hand weapons.) You would have delays based off of each weapon equipped, but damage increases as well. Some of the Dark Stalker mobs in Eldieme Necropolis and Fei'Yin have a single hand-to-hand weapon equipped. (Like this (http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/Image:Western_Shadow.jpg).)

[Tekumel]

Can you use the registration codes from a 360 version to play on PC?

Yes. Accounts & registration codes are universal, but once you start using one region (NA, JP, or EU) you must get expansions to match that region.

[Kaylia]

My chocobo is 1st class in both STR and END on day 50. What's the best way to learn skill now (if its not too late) and raise my discernment, without dropping STR/END?

[Max™]

My chocobo is 1st class in both STR and END on day 50. What's the best way to learn skill now (if its not too late) and raise my discernment, without dropping STR/END?

Dig for Treasure.

[evilpaul]

I'm pretty sure that drops your endurance.

[Rocl]

viewtopic.php?p=436971#p436971 (http://www.bluegartr.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=436971#p436971)

Is the post I use when raising chocobos, not what you were looking for I know, but I'm almost pretty certain there is no care plan that raises discernment without lowering STR/END (unless you count Basic Care)

[LordMagnus]

I read something somewhere on these forums about a zerg strategy called "100 GA", which I assume is a parody of Hundred Fists that uses greataxe. Assuming I read this correctly (I searched for the thread but couldn't find it, everything with "ga spell" and "100 percent" flooded me), and it's actually a real, tried, and true strategy, how does it work?

[diony]

DRK/SAM with Maximum possible haste and delay reduction (93.3%) and Fortitude axe

[LordMagnus]

DRK/SAM with Maximum possible haste and delay reduction (93.3%) and Fortitude axe
I feel silly now, didn't even notice DRK could use Fort. I think I'm going to try this the next time my LS does DL, thanks!

Edit: 'Nother question '3' Why DRK/SAM rather than DRK/WAR? Wouldn't DRK/WAR have the same attack speed, since a 10% DA rate is basically a 10% attack speed reduction, except /WAR would also offer Berzerk?

[Max™]

DRK/SAM with Maximum possible haste and delay reduction (93.3%) and Fortitude axe
I feel silly now, didn't even notice DRK could use Fort. I think I'm going to try this the next time my LS does DL, thanks!

Edit: 'Nother question '3' Why DRK/SAM rather than DRK/WAR? Wouldn't DRK/WAR have the same attack speed, since a 10% DA rate is basically a 10% attack speed reduction, except /WAR would also offer Berzerk?

DA doesn't affect time between swings.

That's the key factor in SE/BW Zerging, getting in as many procs as possible.

[Spekkio]

has anyone tried an extreme chr build for blu, for casting eyes on me? i've seen reference to people trying marginal ones, however the only numbers i've turned up were from a single post about fighting ouryu and the individual did not have a heavy chr build for it, nor did he explore the effect of MAB on it. with yigit gear, moldavite, memento mori, and uggly pendant, there's no end of MAB a blu can stack, and with gear like mahatma pants, chr is not hard either. does anyone know of a solid test on it that's already been conducted? having just dinged 61 last night, i've had no chance to experiment on my own, however i'd be more interested in the results a 75 blu could produce with proper gear on higher end targets (like ouryu or something in that category.) the post i found did mention that he saw no resists, which may have its uses on mobs i can't think of off the top of my head. perhaps i'm just overthinking things though.

[Meat]

DRK/SAM with Maximum possible haste and delay reduction (93.3%) and Fortitude axe
wait, fort or rune?

[Talisien]

Ninja (in the 30s, but it's a general question too) dual-wielding:

Does it matter which weapon you put in which hand?

Does delay matter in this decision?

Does base damage matter in this decision?

thanks.

ps: the goal is maximizing dps obviously.

[evilpaul]

Always use the high DMG rated weapon in your mainhand as that is what gets the most hits in on WS.

[Spekkio]

delay is calculated based off a sum of the two delays and reduced by a %. the % is dependent upon the level of dual wield you have. meanwhile, the damage per hit is calculated individually. on a normal attack round, it doesn't matter which hand hits first, the stronger or the weaker (unless maybe there's something to do with an add effect, but idk about that, ask someone smarter.) on the other hand, weapon skills have a certain number of hits with each hand, (iirc all ws have 1 or more main hand swings and exactly 1 offhand. don't quote me, ask someone smarter.) and as such, you want your harder hitting weapon to swing more times. since the main hand always gets more swings than your off, and is the one that swings for double attacks on ws (i think. again, someone smarter. is it the only one that swings on a normal double attack too?) you want to make sure you put your stronger weapon in the main slot, as the above poster stated.

[Epical]

Am I going crazy or whenever you go and get signet it takes like 10 seconds for the guy to acknowledge you're continuing the conversation (so he can cast on you)?

[Charismatic]

Am I going crazy or whenever you go and get signet it takes like 10 seconds for the guy to acknowledge you're continuing the conversation (so he can cast on you)?
I am getting this issue as well, I thought maybe it was just the signet guys in Sandy, or just my comp... but since you're having the problem too I don't think it's just my comp

[Talisien]

Am I going crazy or whenever you go and get signet it takes like 10 seconds for the guy to acknowledge you're continuing the conversation (so he can cast on you)?
I am getting this issue as well, I thought maybe it was just the signet guys in Sandy, or just my comp... but since you're having the problem too I don't think it's just my comp

Getting it everywhere signet is offered, since the August patch.

[Talisien]

delay is calculated based off a sum of the two delays and reduced by a %. the % is dependent upon the level of dual wield you have. meanwhile, the damage per hit is calculated individually. on a normal attack round, it doesn't matter which hand hits first, the stronger or the weaker (unless maybe there's something to do with an add effect, but idk about that, ask someone smarter.) on the other hand, weapon skills have a certain number of hits with each hand, (iirc all ws have 1 or more main hand swings and exactly 1 offhand. don't quote me, ask someone smarter.) and as such, you want your harder hitting weapon to swing more times. since the main hand always gets more swings than your off, and is the one that swings for double attacks on ws (i think. again, someone smarter. is it the only one that swings on a normal double attack too?) you want to make sure you put your stronger weapon in the main slot, as the above poster stated.

Cool, thank you.

So short version: Ignore delay when you're figuring which weapon goes where, just get the best dps weapons you can and put the one with the higher D value in your mainhand.

[UnwittingInsomniac]

Extremely basic question, sigh :(

How much +ACC gear should I be shooting for in a standard meritting TP setup, assuming my goal is to eat meat? Really, I guess, I'm wondering what the point is where I can stop downing sushi for the auto-cap on ACC and get greater returns from the large ATK boost. Basics; MNK, so A+ combat skill rating (stuck with sushi forever on NIN, meh), 8/8 H2H merits, will of course vary between Mamool/Trolls/Colibri/lolMire. Minimal ACC in my TP build currently puts me right at +32, swapping Turban for OHat is pretty much the only change I make currently when I don't eat sushi for a total of +42. I've heard that you want to aim for anywhere from +20 to +40 ACC over when EXP mobs start checking Low Evasion for an acceptable hit rate, so clearing that up would be enormously helpful. :?

Also, Rajas Ring; worth it to wear fulltime? It puts me over 10 TP/round with Destroyers, so I've been going Sniper's/Rajas since I got the blasted thing, but I see tons of monks still going dual Sniper's/Woodsman.

[diony]

My Samurai has:

+5 (Onimaru)
+5(C.chain)
+3(Fowling Earring)
+10(Hauby)
+4(TOA Ring)
+10(Life belt)
+7(Shura legs)
+44 Raw accuracy

+5 DEX (Hauby)
+5 (Rajas)
And +10 DEX

+55 Total accuracy and full GKT merits, i parse 93%ish accuracy at Nyzul isle birds(without madrigal), and 85% ish at Mamool Ja staging point (taking into account flash and warm-up)

With madrigal a MNK should be able to hit near accuracy cap at most exp camps

Edit: Oh I seigan full time too risky to use hasso

[RandomLurker]

Unless you're talking pre-patch you also have an extremely large accuracy bonus via base DEX; Comparing apples and oranges. Realistically the only camps that meat is a 'trouble' for some MNKs is North thickets/Nyzul mamools. Personally I use sushi at nyzul mamools and push H.pie and acc heavy setup for north thickets, including things like Noritsune Kote (instead of attack hands), Minuet earring (instead of merman's) and Ohat for Infiltartors/Lurkers. Save Focus for Lurker pulls, and make sure your bard/s are competant enough to play madrigal when these are your target. If youre looking for a number, youre going to want over 50 from gear for the more evasive mamools with meat.

Wont say much about rajas since many people feel differently about it, but it isn't particularly useful for MNK if you allready own 2 Acc rings allready.

[Delekii]

Am I going crazy or whenever you go and get signet it takes like 10 seconds for the guy to acknowledge you're continuing the conversation (so he can cast on you)?
I am getting this issue as well, I thought maybe it was just the signet guys in Sandy, or just my comp... but since you're having the problem too I don't think it's just my comp

Getting it everywhere signet is offered, since the August patch.
ditto, and sanction too.

[Epical]

Faced with a dilemma: I was planning on taking up SAM to 75 next (and BLM after that), but after thinking about the new jobs available in the expansion and how they'll change general party configurations and job usefulness... should I do BLM first and SAM after? BLM is really the only big magical damage dealer, and SAM is hardly alone in their respective category, so I figure it would be more worthwhile to do BLM first. As far as gear and other jobs go, SAM is pretty much a free ride to 75 save GKT purchases, lol. I have some higher-level gear left over from RDM I can use on BLM, but otherwise I'd need to invest in all that fun stuff. Merits-wise, I'm completely melee-based.

Sooooooooooo, yar. Halp. =(

[Senji]

Lvl sam, mingle in making money at the same time, ding 51 on blm into a full set of HQ staves.

[evilpaul]

Are Kung Fu Shoes worth it at 51?

[Kaope]

Is it possible to solo Carmine Dobsonfly as rdm? assuming I'm prepared to reraise alot..... :lol:

[RandomLurker]

Kung fu's: They probably are going to be equal/better than fumas/feddy kyahan, but kick bonus isnt terribly noticeable pre-KA2, coupled with the fact you likely wont have merit-like acc. It will be marginal either way, if you own Sarutobi/fuma kyahan for another job, I would just use those.

Solo dobsonfly: Pretty sure its possible. If you search KI BLU forums theres a topic there about soloing it with pinecone bomb (damages + sleeps), which actually involves not dying as much as dot+rr.

[fantasticdan]

Is it possible to solo Carmine Dobsonfly as rdm? assuming I'm prepared to reraise alot..... :lol:

You sure can, sub /nin(tonko and utsusemi won't aggro the clusters), bring a hell of a lot of reraise charges, and just keep tapping it down with bio2 and poison. The main problem is just staying alive and keeping claim while it dies. Blm/nin probably better so you can finish off with an ES nuke, thou I never tried on blm.

I tried the blu method for kicks, but it's really all luck. Pinecone bomb accuracy sucks, and the sleep duration is wonky. If you ever miss a pinecone bomb, you're going to die, and the mob is going to regen to full. Thou I guess when you take failures into account, you still might not die as much as rdm or blm needs to. Just bring a lot of squid sushi (and yag drinks?) if you want to try blu method. I got one fly kill and maybe like 3-5 deaths on blu.

EDIT: Just to elaborate on how it works on blu; wait until a lone dobsonfly is relatively close to the portal, than pinecone bomb it. Run through portal and back quickly to reset hate, than immediately pinecone bomb it again when it wakes up. When it get's low on health, 25-33% ish? Use 2hr if it's up, than CA jet stream, this does pretty huge damage to it, spam bludgeon and whatever else you have equipped if it's still alive. Interesting thing to note, if you one-shot the fly at low health while unclaimed, it will not aggro the rest of the flies, so it's technically possible to do this without dying, however you will die if you magic aggro a cluster like I did at the end. :D

[theo]

What would be the easiest method of getting 40k Conquest Points? I've got a couple sub jobs to level but I doubt that will be enough for 40k. I've been putting off Master Caster's Bracelets for a long time now cause I didn't want to switch nations, but I'm starting to feel gimp w/o them :|

[sb]

mog enhancement:conquest should help you with that. oh, and make sure you have signet >.>. I've gone through a number of jobs without signet due to Whitegate~>teleport.

edit:
Talk to a Singet guard, and ask him to explain signet. There are a number of modifiers such as nation rank and region ownership that modify conquest points received.

[evilpaul]

You sure can, sub /nin(tonko and utsusemi won't aggro the clusters), bring a hell of a lot of reraise charges, and just keep tapping it down with bio2 and poison. The main problem is just staying alive and keeping claim while it dies. Blm/nin probably better so you can finish off with an ES nuke, thou I never tried on blm.You'll be double weakened several times over, so I'd just /NIN so you can stay alive longer and hopefully have it die claimed.

[Falaras]

Does Absorb TP have modifiers past Macc and Dark Magic Skill? (INT and Matk? or others?)

[Tyche]

Where the fuck are the Brie slimes in mamook?

[Tajin]

So i know this has been asked already, i just need to STFU some stubbonr taru

/shout is whole zone?

[Amele]

So i know this has been asked already, i just need to STFU some stubbonr taru

/shout is whole zone?

no. typically 2-4 tiles, but varies by map.

[fobber]

I know that some 3hr food can be made into 30 min food. Judging by the stats, is there any reason to get a 30 min food over the 3 hr food? Disgard price and stackable.

Example.

30 min food.

Effects for Coeurl Sub:
MP +10
Strength +5
Agility +1
Intelligence -2
HP Regeneration While Healing +1
Resist Stun
Resist Sleep
Attack +20% (Cap: 75@375 Base Attack)
Ranged Attack +20% (Cap: 75@375 Base Ranged Attack)

3 hour food

Effects for Coeurl Sautee:
Strength +5
Agility +1
Intelligence -2
Resist Stun
Attack +20% (Cap: 75@375 Base Attack)
Ranged Attack +20% (Cap: 75@375 Base Ranged Attack)

[VZX]

I know that some 3hr food can be made into 30 min food. Judging by the stats, is there any reason to get a 30 min food over the 3 hr food? Disgard price and stackable.

Short time event/ if you often die / pick up PT where mostly won't stay for 3 hrs

[Talisien]

I only have one piece of haste gear, but I'm interested to see how haste macros work, can I simply do this:

/console exec haste.txt
/ma "utsusemi: ichi" <me>
/recast "utsusemi: ichi"
/console exec tp.txt

Because I tried that and it seemed like the second /console command (to equip my tp gear) failed to activate most of the time. Do I need to put a /wait 1 after the /recast ? Or is it better to just have two separate macros for this.

Actually I guess this question is also for WS too (replace /ma utsu with /ws "blah" and the haste with ws.txt). Do people that use windower macros typically have a separate button press for their tp gear, or do they contain it all in one macro, and if the latter, how do you do that.

Thanks very much.

[Slott]

So i know this has been asked already, i just need to STFU some stubbonr taru

/shout is whole zone?

no. typically 2-4 tiles, but varies by map.
god I can just see this being tested for actual distance now verizon style...

1 person stand at a certain spot while other roams away. "Can you hear me now?"

[OctavoGilgamesh]

I only have one piece of haste gear, but I'm interested to see how haste macros work, can I simply do this:

/console exec haste.txt
/ma "utsusemi: ichi" <me>
/recast "utsusemi: ichi"
/console exec tp.txt

Because I tried that and it seemed like the second /console command (to equip my tp gear) failed to activate most of the time. Do I need to put a /wait 1 after the /recast ? Or is it better to just have two separate macros for this.

Yes, use a /wait 1 after recast, maybe a bit more like 1.5 if you still have problems with it.

[Seigfried Of Pandy]

do the ice spikes from ice shield give paralysis?

[fantasticdan]

do the ice spikes from ice shield give paralysis?

Yes, been paralyzed by it in ballista.

[Delekii]

I only have one piece of haste gear, but I'm interested to see how haste macros work, can I simply do this:

/console exec haste.txt
/ma "utsusemi: ichi" <me>
/recast "utsusemi: ichi"
/console exec tp.txt

Because I tried that and it seemed like the second /console command (to equip my tp gear) failed to activate most of the time. Do I need to put a /wait 1 after the /recast ? Or is it better to just have two separate macros for this.

Yes, use a /wait 1 after recast, maybe a bit more like 1.5 if you still have problems with it.
Not to mention, recast is calculated at the end of the spell, so you aren't getting any benefit from that haste gear if it switches back as soon as you start casting..

Cast time = calculated at the start of the spell
Recast = calculated at time of spell taking effect

[evilpaul]

What's with General Zazarg's name?

[Swampthing]

Could a Ninja and mage duo Guardian Statue (http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Guardian_Statue), the Red Mage AF3 quest doll NM?

[Woozie]

Most likely. I trio'd it with RDM PLD SAM (well technically four-man because of the lowbie RDM with us, but she was half dcing the whole time anyways).

[Saraphym]

Could a Ninja and mage duo Guardian Statue (http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Guardian_Statue), the Red Mage AF3 quest doll NM?


75Nin? yes, otherwise depending on the level, maybe.


75nin and a mage should be able to duo all AF3 mobs iirc.

[Kaylia]

Pull to zone and bio kill it on any job, if your 2h isnt enough to one shot it at 75.

[shishio]

Could a Ninja and mage duo Guardian Statue (http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Guardian_Statue), the Red Mage AF3 quest doll NM?

it's soloable by a 75 nin/rdm

[Swampthing]

Thanks ^^

[Khajit]

how big is the haste bonus on uskane?
It exists on my server so hopefully somone has talked to or speaks the language of whomever else has a full set can test it out.
if all else fails ask that guy nightmare on quetz for testing since i dont speak a word of japanese.

[theo]

I think a thread in the events forum found it to be ~5% haste from the set bonus, not counting the haste stats on the armors themselves.

[Epical]

Am I ever going to use DRG sub for anything? NIN MNK SAM* RDM BLM* Other than Jumps and and accuracy bonus, is there anything it offers?

[RandomLurker]

If you ballista its a pretty nice sub for MNK and SAM from time to time, other than that, there aren't many practical instances where you'll end up needing it.

[Ryko]

"Shit is situational" in of itself is a copout answer for not wanting to tell you which situation each falls into.

That said, shit is situational.

[Thulius]

Attack earrings until suppa/brutal, macro eris' into voke if you want to bother with that, otherwise eris' fulltime. You really shouldn't need HP gear in exp ever. Evasion gear is nice to have around, especially when you're in a party with little support, but you should be able to go all out DD gear comfortably with a brd and/or rdm.

[deivi]

Am I ever going to use DRG sub for anything? NIN MNK SAM* RDM BLM* Other than Jumps and and accuracy bonus, is there anything it offers?

NIN MNK SAM RDM BLM are your 75's? then no dont bother lving 37DRG. after the SAM update the only job that really uses /DRG anymore is DRK cause its a way to get extra haste and acc w/o screwing with casting

[Necrosis]

Should I demerit my 4 -enmity merits? (Leveling PLD) I plan on using PLD fairly often endgame-wise. My other jobs are BLM (used often), BRD (somewhat often), THF (rarely), RNG (never)

[Saraphym]

Should I demerit my 4 -enmity merits? (Leveling PLD) I plan on using PLD fairly often endgame-wise. My other jobs are BLM (used often), BRD (somewhat often), THF (rarely), RNG (never)

I prefer to leave enmity merits alone.

IMO; I'd say if you're still using brd and blm at least 30% of the time, then the -enmitys are fine, and won't really affect your tanking skills on PLD, but will benefit your brd/blm to a degree that its worth it.

[tornfleshofsoul]

Am I ever going to use DRG sub for anything? NIN MNK SAM* RDM BLM* Other than Jumps and and accuracy bonus, is there anything it offers?

NIN MNK SAM RDM BLM are your 75's? then no dont bother lving 37DRG. after the SAM update the only job that really uses /DRG anymore is DRK cause its a way to get extra haste and acc w/o screwing with casting

Isn't MNK/DRG in exp still decent? With Wyvern earring for haste and the acc bonus trait. I remember it being on par with /war in KRT back in the day. I dunno about birds or Mamools now though.

[Saraphym]

Isn't MNK/DRG in exp still decent? With Wyvern earring for haste and the acc bonus trait. I remember it being on par with /war in KRT back in the day. I dunno about birds or Mamools now though.

/DRG vs /WAR

I don't see how +10 acc & jumps are superior to 10% double attack and berserk, even with haste earring.



edit: noticed the wording was "on par" and not superior, though it's not really on par either.

[Delekii]

Isn't MNK/DRG in exp still decent? With Wyvern earring for haste and the acc bonus trait. I remember it being on par with /war in KRT back in the day. I dunno about birds or Mamools now though.

/DRG vs /WAR

I don't see how +10 acc & jumps are superior to 10% double attack and berserk, even with haste earring.

edit: noticed the wording was "on par" and not superior, though it's not really on par either.

MNK/DRG used to be an absolute terror in KRT, I couldn't tell you why. We had some of the best equipped monks back in the day, and when doing brd brd mnk mnk rdm whm in krt, 1 would go /DRG, and 1 /WAR for voke, and regardless of who did which, the drg came out on top more often than not, despite that fact that with voking you should have more opportunity to counter.

[Saraphym]

Isn't MNK/DRG in exp still decent? With Wyvern earring for haste and the acc bonus trait. I remember it being on par with /war in KRT back in the day. I dunno about birds or Mamools now though.

/DRG vs /WAR

I don't see how +10 acc & jumps are superior to 10% double attack and berserk, even with haste earring.

edit: noticed the wording was "on par" and not superior, though it's not really on par either.

MNK/DRG used to be an absolute terror in KRT, I couldn't tell you why. We had some of the best equipped monks back in the day, and when doing brd brd mnk mnk rdm whm in krt, 1 would go /DRG, and 1 /WAR for voke, and regardless of who did which, the drg came out on top more often than not, despite that fact that with voking you should have more opportunity to counter.

can someone tell me why then? and why mnks don't sub drg now? Is it something specific to /drg and KRT? did something change since then? srsly i'd like to know.

[Obev]

I'd wager that with the relatively low level of monsters in the tomb, as well as the whole blindness thing, ten accuracy for free doesn't hurt, especially for the purposes of Counter. And of course, 5% haste is just plain broken for an earring, moreso when you consider that pre-Aht Urhgan there was no turban for non-DRG-subbing monks to hit the gear haste cap with.

[RandomLurker]

KRT mobs have lower defence than your general ToAU merit mob, so berserk isn't as potent. 10acc, 5% haste and jumps has ability to produce similarly to /WAR in alot of instances, especially KRT. The reason you generally don't see it now, is because it also MP sponges like /WAR would.

[Skai]

Justice/Joy or Joy/Justice? I am currently using Joy/Justice because Joy have 1 DMG over Justice.

[Amele]

KRT mobs have lower defence than your general ToAU merit mob, so berserk isn't as potent. 10acc, 5% haste and jumps has ability to produce similarly to /WAR in alot of instances, especially KRT. The reason you generally don't see it now, is because it also MP sponges like /WAR would.

"berserk isn't as potent"? unless you're hitting the attack cap, % boosts are the same across the entire range (example: 200/100 > 230/100 is a 15% boost. 200/200 > 230/200 is *still* a 15% boost.) in terms of sheer damage, you actually get a larger absolute boost from 200/100 > 230/100 (2 to 2.3 vs
1 to 1.15) but in terms of %dot over time, they're exactly the same.

/drg was better back in the day because hitting the haste cap was impossible without it; and 5% going from 56% haste (1 march) to 61% haste is fucking -huge-.

[RandomLurker]

With 2 minuets and meat(while /DRG), I honestly wouldnt be surprised if you're close to/at capped attack down there, for clarity.

[Rehn]

Any reason for me to continue hanging onto byakko's axe after I get perdu voulge?

[Miang]

Justice/Joy or Joy/Justice? I am currently using Joy/Justice because Joy have 1 DMG over Justice.
Joy/Justice is the better combo, because as you say, it has 1 more DMG, making it better for WS

[Aireiya]

I could probably find this elsewhere, but I did a cursory search and didn't find what I was looking for.

What are the new values for 1hd and 2hd pdif's at different cratio ranges?