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Not Kuno
04-08-2009, 07:21 PM
First CS in lower Jeuno

Kill beastmen of the respective types in Jugner, Pash, and Meri Mountains. Then wait till tomorrow for there to actually be mobs/get drops because shit is gay atm.

Then trade them to G-6 in Qufim.

Destinye
04-08-2009, 07:22 PM
Searching Meripo mountains atm.

Ermac
04-08-2009, 07:22 PM
nothin around the three crags.....

Dein
04-08-2009, 07:23 PM
Going back to Pashhow in a moment. I found a field parchment but that's for FoV's elite regiment.

Waku
04-08-2009, 07:24 PM
perhaps fish at the crystal spring J-9 in jugner?

Cream Soda
04-08-2009, 07:25 PM
First CS in lower Jeuno


Fuckin cock blocked me from getting O ingots before they sold out

Aro
04-08-2009, 07:26 PM
Fuckin cock blocked me from getting O ingots before they sold out

Fuckin PL crashing did that to me.

Now O. ingots are bloody 600k.. sigh :(

Aristio
04-08-2009, 07:28 PM
By the item discription, sounds like you have to zone in during clear weather and day in jugner, clear weather during night in meriphataud, and full moon in pashhow. Can't confirm since it wont stop raining in jugner.

Gwynplaine
04-08-2009, 07:29 PM
They drop off enemies in those areas I heard.

Marcicus
04-08-2009, 07:29 PM
guy on allah reporting killing quadavs in pashhow for the seeds. anyone able to confirm?

edit: confirmed. kill the beastmen in each zone

Destinye
04-08-2009, 07:31 PM
Yep, dropping off beastmen..aka NM hunting for normal mobs now!

GaelWanderling
04-08-2009, 07:33 PM
Just got seedspall luna off veteran quadav in pashow.

Fou-Lu
04-08-2009, 07:35 PM
They drop off enemies in those areas I heard.

CONFIRMED FOR BRAWL

Dein
04-08-2009, 07:39 PM
Went 1/1 on a Brass Quadav with thf sub. Going to the other areas now to try my luck.

Gwynplaine
04-08-2009, 07:50 PM
If you kill a mob is it like the Ops BCNM where all party members get its key item?

BadKarma
04-08-2009, 07:51 PM
If you kill a mob is it like the Ops BCNM where all party members get its key item?

no

TripleX
04-08-2009, 07:51 PM
Zlavnich said he saw Seed Fragment in Delkfutts tower. Probably something important later on.

Curcio
04-08-2009, 07:59 PM
Tried in Oztroja, just for kicks since my party members were outside camping against others.

Does not seem to drop there. Out of 12 mobs, but hey, if anyone else can say otherwise go right ahead.

Zeb
04-08-2009, 08:03 PM
There is a goblin in port jeuno asking if you want 1 of 2 key items, those seeds are what he wants in exchange for them.

Vade
04-08-2009, 08:04 PM
It's like HNM camping out here in the three zones. I think I'm going to wait until later. Time to move onto the WOTG missions.

Reapz
04-08-2009, 08:17 PM
Seedspall Luna from Onyx and Greater Quadav also so guessing all beastmen

vivix
04-08-2009, 08:17 PM
This is the worst first mission ever.

Ratatapa
04-08-2009, 08:18 PM
fuck cant find any mobs lol

Onigami The Yagudo King
04-08-2009, 08:26 PM
So far, theres been a drop from Yagudo Theologists and Votary's in meriphataud

Projekt.Ein
04-08-2009, 08:27 PM
Got 3/3 Seedspalls, zoned into Qufim, got no CS, currently looking for a ??? or something.

EDIT: ??? at G-6 behind a rock, trade Seedspalls to it for CS

Suteru
04-08-2009, 08:29 PM
From otherwiki:


Trade the 3 Seedspalls to a ??? at G-6 in Qufim Island for next cutscene.

Reizvoll
04-08-2009, 08:30 PM
There are two(?) new ??? near the tower, check the tree/rocks near the coast north of the Field manual, would be above trickster kinetix.

A-Chaos
04-08-2009, 08:30 PM
FFS SE, I'm not a good NM camper.

Fuck, guess all I get out of the update is summoner buffs.

Corrderio
04-08-2009, 08:42 PM
Gayest mission ever. Why couldn't it have just been a ??? ><

Caudle
04-08-2009, 08:45 PM
Huge clusterfuck in front of the Davoi zone lol.

Any word on where too after qufim cs?

BadKarma
04-08-2009, 08:54 PM
SE fucked up bad with the whole item thing

Projekt.Ein
04-08-2009, 09:02 PM
Anyone happen to know of curious goblin NPC's for Gathering of Light (I)? lol

Tried the gobs in Muckvix's Junk shop, waiting for the Bastok chip goblin to open, I can't think of any other gob NPC's, or "curious goblins".

Edit: Yup, not the chip goblins lol.

Raylinn
04-08-2009, 09:06 PM
I tried muckvix's, chip goblins, stronghold gobs, the new one in port is fucking with me, wants another set of the seedspalls...

Gonna try movalpolos even though I'm doubting it based on it needing CoP

Conker
04-08-2009, 09:06 PM
Not that bad can wait till tomorrow sure it wont be as bad lol

Corrderio
04-08-2009, 09:18 PM
Anyone know if the lower level beastmen in said zones drop the seed crystals to?

Raylinn
04-08-2009, 09:20 PM
Nothing in movalpolos as expected. Not sure where to go from here >.>

Hogie
04-08-2009, 09:22 PM
Nothing in movalpolos as expected. Not sure where to go from here >.>

Davoi Giddious and... Palborow? (sp on all yeah i know, no auto trans here!)

TheTaru
04-08-2009, 09:26 PM
Davoi Giddious and... Palborow? (sp on all yeah i know, no auto trans here!)

The relic NPC goblins? I'll go check now

Edit: Nope, nothing. And after killing ~30 goblins in sauromugue, I'm going to guess it isn't the goblins around jeuno.

Burrows
04-08-2009, 09:30 PM
How about the ones complaining go get a box of tampons and wait until the rush is over... then wait on the Wiki.... then do the missions.

Problem solved.

DnightX
04-08-2009, 09:46 PM
On those 3 goblins, i found some hints from the key items:

Seedspall Caenulum:

A shard of the Seed Crystal retrieved from a health-conscious Goblin.
It tingles to the touch and radiates an otherworldly blue-tingled light


Seedspall Roseum:

A shard of the Seed Crystal retrieved from a veggie-loving Goblin.
It tingles to the touch and radiates an otherworldly red-tingled light


Seedspall Virids:

A shard of the Seed Crystal retrieved from a carnivorous Goblin.
It tingles to the touch and radiates an otherworldly green-tingled light

Kumbai
04-08-2009, 09:46 PM
Anyone figure out what to do for Gatherer of Light (I)?

Xanthe
04-08-2009, 09:50 PM
Those colors remind me of magicite, maybe the goblins near the magicite locations for nation missions?

Casey_
04-08-2009, 09:50 PM
Looks like bastok/sandoria/windurst, Blue/Red/Green.. hmm

anyone check past areas?

icharis
04-08-2009, 09:51 PM
I'm thinking the goblins from THF AF quest in Dangruf, headed there now.

EDIT: Thinking this because you had to give them each a food. 1 salt (health?), 1 grass (vege?), 1 and egg (meat?).

Xanthe
04-08-2009, 09:52 PM
Looks like bastok/sandoria/windurst, Blue/Red/Green.. hmm

anyone check past areas?

The add-on doesn't involve WotG areas. Only original and Zilart zones.

Halon50
04-08-2009, 09:58 PM
I hope it's nothing to do with the 3 pop goblins by the 3 crags. That would suck; just imagine the lines spamming each possible pop point....

Raylinn
04-08-2009, 09:58 PM
I checked the oztroja magicite, nothing there.

Checking the 3 cities again all areas in case there's something new.

Fou-Lu
04-08-2009, 10:01 PM
There is a goblin in port jeuno asking if you want 1 of 2 key items, those seeds are what he wants in exchange for them.

this gob wants all three seedspalls again.................

SE http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v206/KaiserX2/1238631716732.gif

Kumbai
04-08-2009, 10:02 PM
I checked the oztroja magicite, nothing there.

Checking the 3 cities again all areas in case there's something new.

Nothing from the Qulun Dome Magicite~

I checked Upper Jeuno Infimary etc... nothing.

icharis
04-08-2009, 10:05 PM
Traded salt to ??? to spawn goblin, nothing.

drewbixcube
04-08-2009, 10:19 PM
the seeds in pash drop off the quadav halfway towards the op right? went 1/3 on yags but around 0/15 on quads atm

Lutia
04-08-2009, 10:20 PM
2/3 orcs, 2/6 yagudos, 2/18 quadavs.

Ratatapa
04-08-2009, 10:20 PM
after 0/24 in pash i went 1/2 near Beadaux zone

Halon50
04-08-2009, 10:23 PM
Killed ~40 gobs in Dangruf Wadi across all tiers and no drop. Friend in LS did some genocide in Valkurm with no drop either.

Reapz
04-08-2009, 10:26 PM
Goblins in Sauro/Rolan/Batallia drop key items that I dont remember them dropping that are probably linked to the Seedspalls, their descriptions seem to match anyway - they are key items

DnightX
04-08-2009, 10:33 PM
Goblins in Sauro/Rolan/Batallia drop key items that I dont remember them dropping that are probably linked to the Seedspalls, their descriptions seem to match anyway - they are key items

The gob in port asks for key items.... ill head to those areas and give it a shot

Waku
04-08-2009, 10:36 PM
would that be the npc they just removed?

jimbobsonofgod
04-08-2009, 10:37 PM
no

Nalyr
04-08-2009, 10:40 PM
The key items don't drop to all at once when in party. It seems to be randomly assigned with no regard to who killed or fought.

Waku
04-08-2009, 10:43 PM
is it 1 key item per area, then go to gob with all 3 for 3 shards? or need more than that per person?

icharis
04-08-2009, 10:45 PM
Just got a key item "Jug of greasy Goblin juice" from a Goblin Shaman in Rolan.

Waku
04-08-2009, 10:48 PM
got goblin grub key item in saur

Ruin
04-08-2009, 10:51 PM
WHat kind of quadavs have dropped in Pash, seriously about 0/40

Suteru
04-08-2009, 10:53 PM
I went 1/1 on Quads and Yagudo (Took me an hour to claim a yag though) and about 1/4 on Orcs

icharis
04-08-2009, 10:55 PM
WHat kind of quadavs have dropped in Pash, seriously about 0/40

1/1 quads by Beadeaux (spelling)

urat
04-08-2009, 10:57 PM
Confirm that these do not drop off the lower level beastmen. Went 0/20 on the low level quadav in pashow.

Also, goblins do NOT drop the first 3.

Halon50
04-08-2009, 11:00 PM
I can personally confirm that the lower-tier beastmen in Jugner, Meri<tab key> and Pashhow do drop the seeds, as I and 3 others got all 3 (12 seeds total) from the lower-level mobs (the ones NOT next to the BST strongholds).

Wulfgang
04-08-2009, 11:03 PM
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z274/WulfgangFF/untitled-2.png

For those just getting home from work or whatever, I suggest waiting a day or two. Every zone is a clusterfuck and Meriph is fucking terrible.

urat
04-08-2009, 11:05 PM
I can personally confirm that the lower-tier beastmen in Jugner, Meri<tab key> and Pashhow do drop the seeds, as I and 3 others got all 3 (12 seeds total) from the lower-level mobs (the ones NOT next to the BST strongholds).

Must've been retardedly shitty luck then D:

Halon50
04-08-2009, 11:06 PM
The key items don't drop to all at once when in party. It seems to be randomly assigned with no regard to who killed or fought.

Confirmed this. When in a party, if you're in range of the killing blow, you have a random chance of getting the key item.

When the three of us split up to farm goblins in widely disparate areas of the zone, only the person with the killshot got the key item.

byte
04-08-2009, 11:07 PM
The most horrendous mission conceivable for a release day and then an identical one straight after it. Wow, SE.. just wow.

jimbobsonofgod
04-08-2009, 11:08 PM
should be fine in a week or two ... maybe :)

Halon50
04-08-2009, 11:10 PM
Must've been retardedly shitty luck then D:

Very :( Although if it's any consolation, it took maybe 20-25 quad kills before the first seed there dropped for us.

EDIT: I mis-counted, 2 ppl got their items farming near the strongholds before we formed up a pt. So, 10 seeds total from the low-level mobs.

Halon50
04-08-2009, 11:11 PM
It looks like the 3 keys items just net you a Viridian Key and have nothing to do with the 3 goblin seeds. Hmm....?

A-Chaos
04-08-2009, 11:12 PM
1/1 Passhow.

0/152 Meriphataud

Botters camping in Jugner.

Seriously SE, fuck you and your mini expansion. If the Shantotto one is nearly this retarded, I'll eat my hat, and throw in some shoes for good measure. Size 16 shoes.

icharis
04-08-2009, 11:12 PM
Trading the 3 key items from the goblins to the goblin in Port Jeuno for the Viridian Key will unlock some kind of time limit.

DnightX
04-08-2009, 11:15 PM
http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/8311/capturestw.jpg

BadKarma
04-08-2009, 11:17 PM
1/12 on Qudav 0/25 on Bird 0/19 on Orc THIS SHIT IS FUCKING STUPID SE

GFG

Kumbai
04-08-2009, 11:23 PM
Any idea what we do with the Viridian Key?

Corrderio
04-08-2009, 11:24 PM
So after I trade the first 3 seeds I need to talk to Squitrox?

Ermac
04-08-2009, 11:24 PM
Juice from shaman in rolanberry.
Grub from mugger in sauromogue
Furrier in batallia for salad

Projekt.Ein
04-08-2009, 11:25 PM
Probably nothing to do with the ACP missions, but I went and got 3 more Seeds and turned them in for a Crimson Key, went to the chest in the Tenshodo, and it has an option to use the Crimson Key (Level 30).

Edit: Obtained: Chunk of mythril ore.


...FML...

DnightX
04-08-2009, 11:25 PM
I found out it was from the coffer Neptune spire...... and i got a Corsette!

http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/3821/capturelzc.jpg

Kumbai
04-08-2009, 11:26 PM
That's me got my Key~

Kumbai
04-08-2009, 11:27 PM
Siriusly lol? So it's nothing to do with it? XD

Sci
04-08-2009, 11:27 PM
I got two of the goblin items from goblin pets. So that makes them just ever so slightly better to farm than the first 3 seeds.

*edit. Not that it seems to matter anymore D:

Kumbai
04-08-2009, 11:31 PM
Potion +1.... yay -_-;


Edit: Not a clue what to do now tbh.

Edit 2: Giving up for the night :3 GL peeps!

Ermac
04-08-2009, 11:42 PM
so any clue as to where the Viridian Key goes????

Raylinn
04-08-2009, 11:44 PM
From the SS above, it says accepting puts a time limit on the quest "Gatherer of Light" which is the correct mission. Whether opening the box is the right thing or not though.. no clue.

lancaster
04-08-2009, 11:46 PM
Regardless of overcamping, the concept behind the first two missions is a huge step backward in terms of design.

Ermac
04-08-2009, 11:49 PM
im searching for the green treasure coffer in all jeuno now.... let me know if you find it

Waef
04-08-2009, 11:50 PM
"Haste"+1? Wtf is that? Can't they stick with Haste+1%?

Unless it means that it boosts the effect of haste spells and such.

icharis
04-08-2009, 11:50 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v631/icharis29/img_20090408_214420.png

Corrderio
04-08-2009, 11:50 PM
I tried my best to talk to a JP and they did say that the key items are linked to it. How, I don't know. However they did kill 2 NM mandies in Qufim.

Blackmagik
04-08-2009, 11:50 PM
So... Anyone knowyet where to get the next 3 shards of light?

GaelWanderling
04-08-2009, 11:54 PM
Trading the key items to squintix does not allow you to advance in missions, it's more like extra bonuses, the key items are traded to ???s in certain zones (still looking for them) that pop a goblin NM that apparently drops the shard.

Stubwub
04-08-2009, 11:54 PM
For the goblin items, I'm hearing on alla that you have to go to a ??? in the respective zones and fight a spawn gobbie NM, which drops the item you need. So.. head out and fight 3 gobbie NMs.

Raylinn
04-08-2009, 11:56 PM
Just killed vegnix greenthumb in batallia on ledge from beaucedine got seedspall roseum. heading to rolan now

Blackmagik
04-08-2009, 11:57 PM
For the goblin items, I'm hearing on alla that you have to go to a ??? in the respective zones and fight a spawn gobbie NM, which drops the item you need. So.. head out and fight 3 gobbie NMs.

any idea how to pop them? the key items?

lilfoo
04-09-2009, 12:00 AM
Well, I go three goblin key items: Bowl of bland goblin salad, Jug of Greasy Goblin Juice, and Chunk of Smoked Goblin Grub. I went to F-5 (used the shining point shortcut in Batallia) and found a ??? north of the Eldieme entrance there. Clicking on it spawned Vegnix Greenthumb and he dropped a key item: Seedspall Roseum. I'm not sure if the other three key items are needed, but I still kept the Salad which I'm guessing lured it out. So there are probably two other ???s in Rolanberry and Saurumugue and I'm guessing in the two bird NM areas to keep in trend with the hard to reach areas. Will try to confirm if no one else does by the time I check it out :o)

found this on alla

Ermac
04-09-2009, 12:03 AM
Just killed vegnix greenthumb in batallia on ledge from beaucedine got seedspall roseum. heading to rolan now

soloable?

edit: also.... were all 3 key items needed for each party member>??

Raylinn
04-09-2009, 12:05 AM
Yes, fight was very easy. I killed it in 10 hits or so, took 1 shadow down.

VZX
04-09-2009, 12:05 AM
killed the NM popped on center of F-5 batallia down, down with 1 CA disseverment (1.5k damage).
Got my seedspall roseum. I think jeuno goblin trolled you

Hwang
04-09-2009, 12:08 AM
Confirmed this. When in a party, if you're in range of the killing blow, you have a random chance of getting the key item.

When the three of us split up to farm goblins in widely disparate areas of the zone, only the person with the killshot got the key item.


This is not true, we've been killing gobs slowly just to try this out, we had someone over 5 blocks away and they received a key item

Raylinn
04-09-2009, 12:09 AM
killed the NM popped on F-5 batallia down, down with 1 CA disseverment (1.5k damage).
Got my seedspall roseum. I think jeuno goblin trolled you

My guess is that the key 'can' be used for the mission. It simply places a time limit on how quickly you must kill all 3 gobs (obviously very easy since they're pushovers). If you win the limit, the prize in the box may increase.

DnightX
04-09-2009, 12:09 AM
did you get the key to pop it or used the key item from the gobs?

edit: it wont pop for me and i have all 3 key items ;;;

VZX
04-09-2009, 12:12 AM
did you get the key to pop it or used the key item from the gobs?

edit: it wont pop for me and i have all 3 key items ;;;
the key is not gone after i killed the nm

DnightX
04-09-2009, 12:12 AM
the key is not gone after i killed the nm

So i need the key from the goblin npc?

Tyrath
04-09-2009, 12:14 AM
For those who popped the NMs, what did you do after trading the first 3 seedspalls in qufim? Need to talk to anyone else before trying NMs/keyitems?

Sqwunk
04-09-2009, 12:15 AM
So i need the key from the goblin npc?

Hmm but it was stated that he still had the Goblin Key items in his Key item list, and I thought you lost them when you got the veridian key.

DnightX
04-09-2009, 12:16 AM
Hmm but it was stated that he still had the Goblin Key items in his Key item list, and I thought you lost them when you got the veridian key.

I did but i just refarmed them lol.

Halon50
04-09-2009, 12:17 AM
Just confirmed the goblin in Rolanberry is on the upper ledge near Simurgh's spawn area.

Corrderio
04-09-2009, 12:17 AM
From the sound of it these goblins are located on ledges you need an alt. route through >.>

Raylinn
04-09-2009, 12:21 AM
All 3 gob nms down now. Heading back to Qufim for next CS.

Blackmagik
04-09-2009, 12:24 AM
All 3 gob nms down now. Heading back to Qufim for next CS.

did you need the 3 key items for spawning the nms? and where in saurmage is the one there?

Asura_Zilla
04-09-2009, 12:24 AM
So wait do I need to trade my salad/grub/whateverelse for the Viridian Key, and then with that pop the NMs? Or is the Viridian Key totally unrelated?

lilfoo
04-09-2009, 12:27 AM
you MUST have the key items. i tried Rol w/o and it did not pop

Tyrath
04-09-2009, 12:27 AM
You need the keyitem of the zone to pop the NM of each respective zone. Can be done one at a time rather than getting all 3 keyitems first.

vivix
04-09-2009, 12:28 AM
hmm, my friends and I were able to pop the batallia NM with just the batallia and rollanberry items (no v. key). Heading to rollanberry NM now.

Malacite
04-09-2009, 12:28 AM
This is the worst first mission ever.

5 mother fucking hours. That's how long it took my PT to get all 3 items because of the competition in these areas. Didn't help that so many people had Flash or Stun either and camping exact spawn locations in groups. I would have thought SE learned their lesson about this from the last batch of WotG missions but silly me...

Tyrath
04-09-2009, 12:31 AM
5 mother fucking hours. That's how long it took my PT to get all 3 items because of the competition in these areas. Didn't help that so many people had Flash or Stun either and camping exact spawn locations in groups. I would have thought SE learned their lesson about this from the last batch of WotG missions but silly me...

I'm glad I'm doing this stuff solo. Widescan makes it easy to snipe obscure pops in all the zones.

lilfoo
04-09-2009, 12:33 AM
Repop on ???'s is ~1 min

icharis
04-09-2009, 12:34 AM
I have v. key and salad, can't pop NM in batallia though. Not sure why.

Raylinn
04-09-2009, 12:34 AM
Went back to Qufim. Traded in the new seedspalls and Mandragora's attacked.

Had to fight about 20 seed mandragoras right in the open of qufim. It said i had a time limit of 30 min, killed them in less than 5 though, again, really easy fight.

Halon50
04-09-2009, 12:39 AM
Sauromugue goblin ??? is at the intersection of I-9/I-10/J-9/J-10 and is RNG type.

Rolanberry was THF type (perfect dodge).

Batallia was WAR type. All three were something like lv30, easy as cake.

EDIT: Sauromugue goblin is indeed up the ledge around Roc's spawn.

DnightX
04-09-2009, 12:39 AM
ACP broken?

http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/835/img20090409013111.png

icharis
04-09-2009, 12:50 AM
Same problem. Watched 4 people kill, hitting the ??? after each one with the key item. No luck.

Burrows
04-09-2009, 12:56 AM
Got my items in less than 2 hours. How I love bein' RNG.

VZX
04-09-2009, 12:59 AM
ACP broken?

http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/835/img20090409013111.png
Are you on the correct spot?

Sqwunk
04-09-2009, 12:59 AM
Hmm try rezoning? relogging?

Hwang
04-09-2009, 01:02 AM
Tried getting other people the key item from the goblin, you have to have the key item to get the item from the goblin (common knowledge I guess).

Going to try the rest of the NM's now just to make sure everything works fine

Onigami The Yagudo King
04-09-2009, 01:16 AM
We've been in jugner about 2 and a half hours now killing orcs outside davoi. We've killed 70+ orcs... starting to believe this shit doesnt drop even though we know it does. wtf

DnightX
04-09-2009, 01:17 AM
Are you on the correct spot?

Yeah i am. I just logged for the night so ill try tomorrow~

Raylinn
04-09-2009, 01:19 AM
After the mandragora fight, I headed to Fei'yin where I got a CS upon entry. I had to look around for seed afterglow. When I got all of them, I was given an option of Mark of Seed, or Azure Key.
I grabbed the mark since I just want to do the missions currently.

Headed to Qu'bia arena for CS and fight.
The battle has Seed Goblin,Yagudo,Org,Quadav and I was unable to solo it. Just too many enemies for me to worry about. Gonna try and join a group as they come up.

If you leave the arena, you need to reget the seed afterglows to redo.

lilfoo
04-09-2009, 01:21 AM
I killed NM friend got key item (he was on other side of the zone) and anyone in your PT can get key item off any kill. You do not have to be close to get it or get the kill shot. (got fried 2 items this way).

TheTaru
04-09-2009, 01:34 AM
After the mandragora fight, I headed to Fei'yin where I got a CS upon entry. I had to look around for seed afterglow. When I got all of them, I was given an option of Mark of Seed, or Azure Key.
I grabbed the mark since I just want to do the missions currently.

Headed to Qu'bia arena for CS and fight.
The battle has Seed Goblin,Yagudo,Org,Quadav and I was unable to solo it. Just too many enemies for me to worry about. Gonna try and join a group as they come up.

If you leave the arena, you need to reget the seed afterglows to redo.

How badly did you lose at the fight, and how hard did the mobs hit? I'm probably going to try to duo/trio it if I can't solo

Halon50
04-09-2009, 01:43 AM
Tried the Qu'Bia Arena BC with PLD/RDM and underequipped BLM/WHM. Got torn down very quickly. These mobs are at least LV70, if not higher, and hit hard.

The Yagudo is WHM and tried to Shellra IV/Protectra IV.

The Quadav hit reasonably hard and had very strange aggro - when the PLD aggro'd all 4 and I got close to attempt an ES sleepga (which failed), the quad turned to me before I started casting.

The Orc seemed to be a WAR type, hit very hard and fast.

The Goblin's TP move would teleport behind the PLD and do a rush from there to avoid his shield I guess. Very funky.

We wiped with the Orc at ~80% and the other 3 at full health. The "fastest time" on this BC was a little under 11 mins with a pt of 5, when we entered, if that gives you an idea of its difficulty.

Nitrous24
04-09-2009, 01:44 AM
You keep the key items after you do the gobbie nms btw. So if you wanna get the key after you can. I still have all mine after doing Rolanberry and Sauromague nms

Dathus
04-09-2009, 01:58 AM
After that, you go to G-6 again and speak to Aldo for two CSes and a fight with Mandies(easy as HELL! As well, very fun if you have an AoE WS or a BLM). Need to do the fight once per person.

Sci
04-09-2009, 01:59 AM
By the way, for collecting the seeds of light to get the mark of the seed for the Qu'Bia fight. 5 are upstairs, 4 in the main large rooms, 1 in one of the shadow's rooms. 4 more downstairs, 3 are in small rooms behind doors, 1 in cassie's room. They move at random intervals, but they seemed to stay to fixed areas.

Also, collecting them is time based but I never saw more than one warning message about the mark wearing off. And the first time collecting them I went to a lot of dead ends, like walking all the way to the Shiva zone line. This was going around with red legs and sprinters though.

drwaffles
04-09-2009, 02:00 AM
Qu'Bia NMs are no joke... we went as the jobs we'd been running around for the previous missions on (WHM/SCH, BLM/RDM and THF/NIN) and got creamed. They don't sleep, but they are susceptible to at least Gravity and Slow. Didn't get much chance to try anything else before getting gangraped.

Malacite
04-09-2009, 02:02 AM
According to Alla thread you have to get the vermillion key, but before this you need to kill Goblins in batallia, Rolanberry and Sauromauge to get a key item from each of those gobs... then you get the vermillion key from gobbie in jeuno (after that I have no god damn clue)

This is by far, the most poorly designed mission set in the history of the game. WHO THE FUCK TESTED/APPROVED THIS SHIT?

GaelWanderling
04-09-2009, 02:08 AM
According to Alla thread you have to get the vermillion key, but before this you need to kill Goblins in batallia, Rolanberry and Sauromauge to get a key item from each of those gobs... then you get the vermillion key from gobbie in jeuno (after that I have no god damn clue)

This is by far, the most poorly designed mission set in the history of the game. WHO THE FUCK TESTED/APPROVED THIS SHIT?

after you get those key items from the gobs... you take them to where the past mission told you... which is back to qufin.. you dont need the vermillion key thats a added reward.. squintix gives the extra content for repeating the missions. (don't skip over the CS.. they tell you what you have to do)

frodnonnag
04-09-2009, 02:09 AM
According to Alla thread you have to get the vermillion key, but before this you need to kill Goblins in batallia, Rolanberry and Sauromauge to get a key item from each of those gobs... then you get the vermillion key from gobbie in jeuno (after that I have no god damn clue)

This is by far, the most poorly designed mission set in the history of the game. WHO THE FUCK TESTED/APPROVED THIS SHIT?

MOAR FETCH QUESTS.

Corrderio
04-09-2009, 02:24 AM
I never got the Vermillion key and was able to pop the goblin NMs.

Anyway yeah the Fei'Yin BCNM isn't a joke. I got creamed going in solo as a PLD/WAR. Going to try and find ppl for it. Want to try and beat this before I go to bed.

matix
04-09-2009, 02:33 AM
so if u fail the mandies how do u pop them again? u need tog et all the gob nm again? any clue, anyone?

edit: found it

Eanae
04-09-2009, 02:34 AM
Party just had key items for mission four consumed without the mandys popping...

Suteru
04-09-2009, 02:37 AM
Click the ??? again to pop them. >.>

Eanae
04-09-2009, 02:41 AM
Click the ??? again to pop them. >.>

Nothing happens, which is the problem. The mission "started" and then the level cap immediately wore off.

Ruin
04-09-2009, 02:49 AM
Recap (While I wait for someone to open the Banishing Gate..)

1) CS in Lower Jeuno

2) get 3 rare/ex drops from meri yagudo, pash quadav, jugner orc

3) CS Quifim G-6

4) kill gobs in rollanberry, sauro, battalia to get key items > use the key items in the same area to pop NM for the real key items.

5) CS Quifim > fight easy swarm of mandys

6) CS Feiyin > " By the way, for collecting the seeds of light to get the mark of the seed for the Qu'Bia fight. 5 are upstairs, 4 in the main large rooms, 1 in one of the shadow's rooms. 4 more downstairs, 3 are in small rooms behind doors, 1 in cassie's room. They move at random intervals, but they seemed to stay to fixed areas. Also, collecting them is time based but I never saw more than one warning message about the mark wearing off. And the first time collecting them I went to a lot of dead ends, like walking all the way to the Shiva zone line.
>> " When I got all of them, I was given an option of Mark of Seed, or Azure Key.
I grabbed the mark since I just want to do the missions currently. "

So find light seeds > choose Mark to continue with missions > Qu'Bia Arena BC

7) BC fight :

The Yagudo is WHM and tried to Shellra IV/Protectra IV.

The Quadav hit reasonably hard and had very strange aggro - when the PLD aggro'd all 4 and I got close to attempt an ES sleepga (which failed), the quad turned to me before I started casting.

The Orc seemed to be a WAR type, hit very hard and fast.

The Goblin's TP move would teleport behind the PLD and do a rush from there to avoid his shield I guess. Very funky.

8: ???


Questions I have:

1) People are saying after you have the 3 key items from normal gobs, you can get Veridian/Vermillion Key ( which one is correct or is there 2? ) Also what do you do with this key?

2) After collecting light seeds in Feiyin, you can choose Seed ( to continue with missions) or Azure key, what is this key for?

Isawa
04-09-2009, 02:55 AM
Orc - WAR
Quadav - RDM
Yagudo - WHM
Goblin - Possibly THF?

Just tried with 4, didn't go to well. Atonement works well, was chipping 6-7% HP off the Orc everytime. Would have died had the WHM not kept curing.

drwaffles
04-09-2009, 02:57 AM
Goblin is THF, yes. Hate is strange, they bounce around a lot. It's now almost 9am, just wiped with 4 to our second attempt at the BC... think it might be time to sleep soon!

Asura_Zilla
04-09-2009, 02:58 AM
Definitely some screwy hate on the BC NMs, I'm thinking something along the lines of linked hate between the Yag and the Orc, because as soon as I started on Yag Orc went directly for me, even though Isawa had already started on it. No idea about the Quadav and the Goblin, we didn't even manage to finish off one.

drwaffles
04-09-2009, 03:00 AM
The Yagudo spams Cure V on itself, so you need at least one real DD job, preferably more, to take it down quickly. NIN/WAR couldn't take it down fast enough to secure a win on our second attempt.

Waku
04-09-2009, 03:00 AM
Feiyin BC caught us off guard too. No xp loss inside the bc at least.

Isawa
04-09-2009, 03:00 AM
Noticed something odd about Quadav as well. It would run around the arena chasing the RDM then stop and cast a random debuff on me then return to chasing RDM.

drwaffles
04-09-2009, 03:01 AM
Oh, the Quadav has a nasty move that inflicts Virus + Curse, so have your healers watch out for you if you plan on kiting it.

Isawa
04-09-2009, 03:25 AM
Goblin has a nasty AoE called Saucepan, I believe. Inflicts -10 to all stats.

Tidane
04-09-2009, 03:26 AM
WAR DRG SAM SAM RDM RDM

Took down the Yagudo first (Samurai 2hr'd). After that we took the Goblin, Orc, and finally the Quadav. WAR and one of the RDMs ended up dying, but it wasn't too difficult. The first time we tried (THFx2, DNC, RDM, RDM, WHM) we didn't have enough damage and hate was everywhere. Hate was still everywhere, but they died to fast for it to matter.

Suteru
04-09-2009, 03:27 AM
Light based sleep seems to work. Was able to Light Shot the goblin. 2/4 down sofar

Fou-Lu
04-09-2009, 03:28 AM
cs in hall of the gods after bc

Suteru
04-09-2009, 03:30 AM
Just won with BLU BLM COR DNC THF MNK.

Went Yag > Orc > Quad > Goblin

lilfoo
04-09-2009, 03:33 AM
Was resonably hard with BLM BLM BLM RDM SMN DNC Know how to kite if you burn it and have the rdm/nin and hold the quadav

montgomery
04-09-2009, 03:35 AM
I'm having trouble with the mandies too.. well popping them. Got my CS with the mandies staring me and lil' aldo down, then it cuts out and when I check the ??? again I get "There is nothing out of the ordinary here." It didn't consume my key items, but it won't pop the mandies when I try. I tried to zone after game day switch and everything also.

Fou-Lu
04-09-2009, 03:40 AM
Finished BC
Got CS in Hall of the Gods
Just hit a Seed Fragment in Lower Delfruts Tower

"Foulu's Level is currently restricted to 30"


lulz to ensue

Suteru
04-09-2009, 03:49 AM
Seems we're going to stellar fulcrum next.

lancaster
04-09-2009, 03:51 AM
edit: I was concerned about not being able to progress past Mission 8 (Hall of the Gods CS) without Sky access, but if I'm understanding the associated ZMs correctly, you can zone into Hall of the Gods but not progress through it without completing them, right?

Eanae
04-09-2009, 03:53 AM
Mission 4 is broken on Cerberus now. No one can pop the mandys. It consumes key items and immediately ends the quest before popping.

Isawa
04-09-2009, 03:54 AM
1/2

PLD/RDM NIN/DNC THF BLU RDM BRD

Went Yagudo > Quadav > Orc > Goblin

Was relatively easy with 6 people. Goblin was probably the hardest to kill, due to teleporting.

EDIT: BRD seem to be to sleep without much trouble.

matix
04-09-2009, 03:55 AM
Mission 4 is broken on Cerberus now. No one can pop the mandys. It consumes key items and immediately ends the quest before popping.

apparently the same on rag

NoCause
04-09-2009, 03:55 AM
Mandy fight Broken on Ragnorock as well i was the last person to fight them after that everyone has lost their key itemss.... i have warned people to not touch the ??? but you know the ffxi player base needs to try it for their self.

montgomery
04-09-2009, 03:56 AM
Seen 4 other people pop mandies after I got initial CS, assited in one fight hoping it'd get me past the mission but no dice. :( This is gay.

Suteru
04-09-2009, 03:58 AM
Seems Mission 9 is a climb through Delkfutt's Tower, collecting seed fragments. Maybe your cap raises on each floor?

lilfoo
04-09-2009, 04:21 AM
Cap dose not rise. Must find 12 seeds while under a lvl 30 cap for ALL floors

Ruin
04-09-2009, 04:23 AM
Mandy fight Broken on Ragnorock as well i was the last person to fight them after that everyone has lost their key itemss.... i have warned people to not touch the ??? but you know the ffxi player base needs to try it for their self.

I came to the ?? to fight the mandys

got the 1st CS and lost the 3 NM key items

clicked it a bunch cuz it said please wait, got the 30min msg then immediatly after the level restriction wears off msg. Now I just get nothing out of the ordinary, still possess the 3 regular gob key items, but I am on Gather of Light II, so idk wtf goin on. Should be able to just pop the mandys as soon as they emergancy maint. this shit

montgomery
04-09-2009, 04:35 AM
Do you need the regular goblin key items still? The grub, etc? I turned them in for a viridian key after i did the 3 goblin nms and ended up getting an oak log from the coffer in tenshodo. If I can't pop it because I didn't have the grub and those other two items.. I'll be upset over losing an hour-or-so trying to pop those mandies over key items I thought were inconsequential after spawning the 3 NMs.

lilfoo
04-09-2009, 04:49 AM
Bring a 75 for the tower climb. it sucks ass w/o one

lilfoo
04-09-2009, 04:53 AM
Oils and powders.... lots of them.....

Suteru
04-09-2009, 04:58 AM
Yes, oils and powders. Having our 75 with key to go resupply us @ 10.

On 9th floor at the moment. Came in with full stack of both, have one left of each

Waku
04-09-2009, 05:07 AM
are the seeds in random locations on each floor?

lilfoo
04-09-2009, 05:22 AM
Seeds dont move and are on the way up. info on BC in 5 min

Suteru
04-09-2009, 05:25 AM
Capped at 30? Waiting on supplies on floor 11 right now.

Tidane
04-09-2009, 05:30 AM
No, uncapped.

Suteru
04-09-2009, 05:37 AM
Just made it to Fulcrum. Seems this is the last fight.

Auburn
04-09-2009, 05:39 AM
We're at the Fulcrum too, just waiting for one member.

lilfoo
04-09-2009, 05:42 AM
BC cheats like fuck.

Spams AoE
Magic dose very little DMG (174 bliz 3 in very GOOD gear)
AoE charms that lasts longer then frog
Edit: Just spawned adds adds mirrored players like the ZNM
Edit: recovery from wipe is impossible. Draw in + no space. boss dose not move.

Suteru
04-09-2009, 05:44 AM
Do you lose key item going in? aka do you have to reclimb if you lose?

lilfoo
04-09-2009, 05:45 AM
Yes, We cant get back in. We wont be climbing again....

Isawa
04-09-2009, 05:45 AM
It has some cheap ass moves. Spawned one doppelganger, I thought "this won't be to bad", then it popped out another one. Charm turns you into a mandy and lasts for quite a while. Also drains your abilities, similar to Sandworm.

You do lose key item upon entering, you don't lose EXP in the BC.

Ziegus
04-09-2009, 05:46 AM
Just made it to Fulcrum. Seems this is the last fight.

Retard question probably. Last fight of the expansion?

Tidane
04-09-2009, 05:46 AM
Lose the key item when you enter.
Spams AoE ability.
Casts AoE magic.
Uses an AoE charm.
Spawns cloned players.
Appears to have a move that uses your abilities (only saw 2hr, but might work with others).

Samurai melee attacks were doing from 13 to 110. WSs did from 500 to 600.

The mob's melee attacks were doing 41-150 (not sure what was going on, he had some crits that did 71 and regular attacks that did 160). The AoE attack took 2 shadows and did 200-400 damage.

Suteru
04-09-2009, 05:46 AM
Spoiler'd for end boss questions

Do we have to fight the stupid crystal? What kind of moves/etc does it have?

Fou-Lu
04-09-2009, 05:47 AM
stunable?

Odin'sLaw
04-09-2009, 05:47 AM
merrow #5 charm time? >.>;

Hyan
04-09-2009, 05:48 AM
Damn that fight sounds like fun

lilfoo
04-09-2009, 05:48 AM
It is stunable. But TP moves are near instant

lilfoo
04-09-2009, 05:49 AM
only damn chance i see is 6 SMN atm.... GG SE

Also spams teir 3 -Ga's

Isawa
04-09-2009, 05:50 AM
Seed of Deference - Charm
Seed of Deception - Doppelganger
Seed of Nihility - Knockback, possible hate reset?
Capable of casting -aga III, unsure of what else.

Hyan
04-09-2009, 05:51 AM
only damn chance i see is 6 SMN atm.... GG SE

Also spams teir 3 -Ga's

Hard BCNM, wtf is SE thinking!

Max™
04-09-2009, 05:52 AM
Hard fetch
Easier fetch
Easy fights
Easier fight(s)
Easy search
Challenging fight
Harder search
Hardest fight

Between me thinking that SE wanted me to farm the r/e spalls twice (glad I was going to get both full sets before doing anything with the gob), back to back, then hearing that, I think I have whiplash.

Wonder if the Crimson/Viridian/Azure key set has anything to do with the last fight difficulty mebbe?

lilfoo
04-09-2009, 05:54 AM
Hard BCNM, wtf is SE thinking!

more pissed at the fact i have to climb again.

Isawa
04-09-2009, 05:54 AM
Hard fetch
Easier fetch
Easy fights
Easier fight(s)
Easy search
Challenging fight
Harder search
Hardest fight

Between me thinking that SE wanted me to farm the r/e spalls twice (glad I was going to get both full sets before doing anything with the gob), back to back, then hearing that, I think I have whiplash.

Wonder if the Crimson/Viridian/Azure key set has anything to do with the last fight difficulty mebbe?

Or maybe, I need a Taru PLD to throw at it. Maybe a certain Maxa.. OH WAIT, YOU LEFT LEVI QQ.

EDIT: It doesn't hit hard, the AoEs are nasty though. As for the keys, I don't have any of them. But knowing how SE is, that's probably what's required.

Suteru
04-09-2009, 05:55 AM
Got it down to 88% before wipe...

Auburn
04-09-2009, 05:58 AM
Wow, only 88%? ><

Max™
04-09-2009, 05:58 AM
Tomorrow I'll finish getting my other two spalls and go get an azure key, see if anything interesting pops up.

lilfoo
04-09-2009, 05:58 AM
Wow we got it to 82% i don't feel so bad >.>

Suteru
04-09-2009, 06:00 AM
We were WHM COR DNC BLU BLM THF, so we had no real DD or tank.

Max™
04-09-2009, 06:02 AM
Seed of Deference
Seed of Deception
Seed of Nihility

Three seeds, three collection quests required to progress to the fourth gathering quest, three keys offered, which seem not worth using alone.

Yeah, did any of you have any of the keys on you during the fight?

lilfoo
04-09-2009, 06:07 AM
2/3, all of had 2/3

Were going k clubbing this weekend...

Suteru
04-09-2009, 06:08 AM
Were those the Amber/Ivory keys you got during missions, or the actual other keys?

lilfoo
04-09-2009, 06:09 AM
amber & ivory. none turned there gob items into keys or did 1st shards again.

Max™
04-09-2009, 06:10 AM
2/3, all of had 2/3

Were going k clubbing this weekend...

Ok, saw they didn't have Viridian/Crimson/Azure.

Anyone who fights with one or all.

Did he use all of his moves/they had the same debilitating effects?

Tired so I might have literally just missed you stating what he did.

I mean the Gob in port who wants spalls/gob food for viridian/crimson, and the azure key offered in Fei'yin.

+Amber/Ivory for the missions, wonder if there is a 6th out there?

Gotta be it then... fuck.

Least after you do the three gob pops/mandies, losing those isn't bad.

Gotta go get two more spalls though, maybe I didn't waste an hour getting a second pashow one yesterday.

lilfoo
04-09-2009, 06:11 AM
Set up was

MNK/NIN (BB and all the dressings)
DNC/NIN (Support and thought we would be ok)
WHM/BLM
RDM/WHM
BLM/RDM
SMN/WHM

He did all three of those moves. Spammed them all.....

Auburn
04-09-2009, 06:12 AM
About to go in, wish us luck. hahhaha (we're doomed ._.)

lilfoo
04-09-2009, 06:13 AM
BTW didn't SE say they would reward you along the way? That's where i think the keys come in.

thetruepandagod
04-09-2009, 06:14 AM
how was melee damage on this? sitting at entrance to bc now waiting for 2hr to come back

Max™
04-09-2009, 06:15 AM
Trading the keys to the coffer is a trick.

You can probably repeat it, which is neat, but atm I would keep a set before trying the last fight.

You keep Amber/Ivory, why are the other three there? Haste +1% Corsettes and Walnut logs?

I don't think so.

Auburn
04-09-2009, 06:16 AM
74 and counting

thetruepandagod
04-09-2009, 06:16 AM
also anyone get a chance to see how much hp his dopplegangers back?

lilfoo
04-09-2009, 06:17 AM
melee dmg was steady but charmga will rape. Might have to have all in range for whole BC.Would suck to be a mage cause that AoE hurts.

Auburn
04-09-2009, 06:20 AM
Seed of Judgement is rape...

Seraphus
04-09-2009, 06:20 AM
What's the radius like on the charmga?

Would it be feasible for a setup of PLD DD RDM WHM BLM BLM?

Black Mages time nuke the Doppelgangers
Red Mage Sleepga the Charmed and Black Mages overwrite with Sleepga II?

Might work seeing as how the final NM is stationary.

Suteru
04-09-2009, 06:20 AM
I can't buy the Viridian Key right now it seems. Gives me an odd message.
"Woah woah! Slow down there bud! Gimmie some time to sort out the stuff you just sold me, why don't ya?"

thetruepandagod
04-09-2009, 06:21 AM
Seed of Judgement is rape...

care to tell us why its rape?

Tzar
04-09-2009, 06:22 AM
Gonna go in as Pld, nin, rdm, whm, drg and brd soonish. Any tips you wanna give us? >_>

Auburn
04-09-2009, 06:22 AM
600-700 Damage plus knockback for Seed of Judgement.

lilfoo
04-09-2009, 06:24 AM
What's the radius like on the charmga?

Would it be feasible for a setup of PLD DD RDM WHM BLM BLM?

Black Mages time nuke the Doppelgangers
Red Mage Sleepga the Charmed and Black Mages overwrite with Sleepga II?

Might work seeing as how the final NM is stationary.

1.) idk i never got charmed i got hit by AoE 3 time b4 i got out of range of his moves.

2.) If it cant hit some one it will draw in.

thetruepandagod
04-09-2009, 06:24 AM
600-700 Damage plus knockback for Seed of Judgement.

whats your setup? dopplegangers have how much hp roughly? and is seed of judgement instant or stunnable?

Auburn
04-09-2009, 06:24 AM
Anyway, we got it down to about 43% and then seed of judgment just messed us up. haha

Auburn
04-09-2009, 06:25 AM
Our setup was RDM/DRK, PLD/NIN, BRD, WHM, THF, RNG. It seemed to be instant, opened the fight with chainstun and ignored the adds.

Tomino
04-09-2009, 06:26 AM
could anyone spoiler tag about the last BCNM? Who's the boss, basically?

lilfoo
04-09-2009, 06:27 AM
could anyone spoiler tag about the last BCNM? Who's the boss, basically?

Seed Crystal

Warning: may haunt your dreams to know what will rape you.

Fou-Lu
04-09-2009, 06:27 AM
got to 41%
Fight was pretty manageable, he kept doppelganger the brd and whm.
Charm people were sleepable and dopplegangers were not by GJ brd
You can not out run him.
music is awesome
all adds depopped after his Ultra Combo Finish
Pics
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v206/KaiserX2/pol2009-04-0907-14-37-03.jpg

Funkworkz
04-09-2009, 06:29 AM
were there any stupid shared hate problems from dopplegangers?

Auburn
04-09-2009, 06:29 AM
Recovered from wipe, gonna try again if time permits.

Funkworkz
04-09-2009, 06:31 AM
does it regen after wipe? or can you zombie?

Caclax
04-09-2009, 06:31 AM
if not too much hp brd rdm/drk + 4 zerg dd might be win? or does it not seem zergable?

Auburn
04-09-2009, 06:31 AM
Boss 100%

thetruepandagod
04-09-2009, 06:32 AM
spoiler

spoiler kind sir

Auburn
04-09-2009, 06:33 AM
It has a ton of HP, we had a relic thf for dmg, buff rng, and a relic soul voice and it wasn't enough.

Seraphus
04-09-2009, 06:33 AM
I assume that if it's spamming AOE, including the knockback move, that would make it really hard to zerg even with a chainstun. (Since the testimonials have deemed the tp moves as instant)

Funkworkz
04-09-2009, 06:34 AM
do buffs wear when you enter?

thetruepandagod
04-09-2009, 06:34 AM
do buffs wear and tp dissapear when u enter?

Caclax
04-09-2009, 06:34 AM
was thinking more along the lines of bravura war + 3 kc prolly wont ge tto try til tomorrow though stuck waiting for se to fix mandy glitch

Auburn
04-09-2009, 06:38 AM
I'm not sure if it wears when entering.

Max™
04-09-2009, 06:40 AM
*going to keep bitching about the keys because he's a goddamn physicist and knows a simple truth when he sees it*

thetruepandagod
04-09-2009, 06:42 AM
buffs do wear, and when u first zone in you start at 17.5 distance so dont scoot forward

Funkworkz
04-09-2009, 06:43 AM
hows its evasion?

Fou-Lu
04-09-2009, 06:48 AM
its alot like the Final ToAU fight.... He just sits there and you can tank from afar if you want

Funkworkz
04-09-2009, 06:55 AM
WIN