Thoughts on HGH?

[Omnipotent]

So here is the story. Atm, I fluctuate between 145-150 lbs. I can max around 245 on the bench, but I just cannot put any weight on or build more muscle, all I am doing is toning now. I was thinking about this:

http://www.genf20.com/order.html


Thing is, I am severely allergic to something in creatine and something in all Whey products. So the only way I was bulking up was hounding carbs and eating a lot of meat / eggs. I know a couple people who use HGH, especially this product for uses like hair growth and energy. I cannot seem to find any side affects, just nay says about how bad HGH is, what is so bad about it? Anything in particular about the one I want to buy?

[Headspace]

MUSCLE MILK

[Eliseos]

I don't really know anything about HGH, but if you gain only gain more weight/muscle if your body type supports it. If all you can do is tone up, your metabolism may not allow you to gain more weight. I was the same way when I lifted, I'd gain a little muscle, but once I got to a certain point, all I could do was tone it better. I'm also skinny as fuck and can eat more than a lot of people I know.

[Mojo]

Cancer etc.

Honestly though, I never really saw the point in trying to hulk out. Why not just stay healthy?

[Omnipotent]

Cancer etc.

Honestly though, I never really saw the point in trying to hulk out. Why not just stay healthy?

I'm not trying to hulk out, just be toned and look like I take care of myself. Beach Bod.

[Obev]

If all you're doing is toning, and you want to be toned, why not keep toning? Derp.

Or you could start chugging protein shakes. I hear they're delicious.

[Omnipotent]

If all you're doing is toning, and you want to be toned, why not keep toning? Derp.

Or you could start chugging protein shakes. I hear they're delicious.

As far as my bi's(maybe) and chest and tri's go. I find myself to the point where I can just stop and maintain. But I still need to work on my shoulder's and my bi's COULD maybe bulk up a bit more. So it would only be a temporary thing, just to get to a point where I can maintain.

[Meat]

eat more, 140-150 is far far from the natural limit.

[dudeguy]

Be a man, use some goddamn Weight Gain 4000

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/115673/beefcake.gif

[Omnipotent]

eat more, 140-150 is far far from the natural limit.

My metabolizm is on crack. I shit after I eat everything. I shit 3-4x a day at least. Not to mention I can out eat Man vs Food, and still lose weight. No I don't have worms or some form of virus.

[Atreides]

You can get protein supplements that don't have whey: egg, casein, soy for example. Optimum Nutrition makes all that stuff.

like 90% of the time it isn't genetics that keeps people from putting on mass, it's not eating enough or not lifting heavy enough weights. Ideally you should be eating 500-1000 calories more than you burn in a day (so at least 3000-3500) and trying to increase the weight you're lifting as often as every single workout.

[Kumbai]

Babycakes, you're penis is small enough as is... I wouldn't use 'roids.

[Tyche]

Earn it, pussy.

[archibaldcrane]

Benching 245 while weighing 145-150 is pretty damn good - 245 is my personal max and I was about 178 at the time.

HGH will probably help some, but honestly I'm sure your "beach bod" is in pretty good shape (how tall are you?) and the side-effects are -way- less than steroids.

At the same time - it's illegal, and you aren't a pro-athelete or powerlifter, so it doesn't seem worth the legal risk personally.

[Chips]

So here is the story. Atm, I fluctuate between 145-150 lbs. I can max around 245 on the bench, but I just cannot put any weight on or build more muscle, all I am doing is toning now. I was thinking about this:

http://www.genf20.com/order.html


Thing is, I am severely allergic to something in creatine and something in all Whey products. So the only way I was bulking up was hounding carbs and eating a lot of meat / eggs. I know a couple people who use HGH, especially this product for uses like hair growth and energy. I cannot seem to find any side affects, just nay says about how bad HGH is, what is so bad about it? Anything in particular about the one I want to buy?

If you weigh 145, can bench 245 (poidh), and still want to use HGH, you're absolutely fucking retarded.

Real help: Instead of supplements, look up a good dieting plan. Weight gain is probably 90% diet. No shitty foods like candy, chips, pop... Stick to foods high in protein, each 6 times a day, and don't drink alcohol.

[Atreides]

also uh... are you *sure* you're allergic to creatine, and not just something in one of those unnecessarily complicated and retarded creatine products like celltech?

Creatine supplements are generally 1 ingredient (creatine monohydrate) which occurs naturally in the body and being allergic would mean you're allergic to fish and meat.

Not that they're even necessary to build muscle, but yeah.

[Omnipotent]

Babycakes, you're penis is small enough as is... I wouldn't use 'roids.

Don't make me Diaga ure fucking mobs in Korroloka


Benching 245 while weighing 145-150 is pretty damn good - 245 is my personal max and I was about 178 at the time.

HGH will probably help some, but honestly I'm sure your "beach bod" is in pretty good shape (how tall are you?) and the side-effects are -way- less than steroids.

At the same time - it's illegal, and you aren't a pro-athelete or powerlifter, so it doesn't seem worth the legal risk personally.

I am 5'10.5ish. Maybe 5'11 not sure. I didn't think HGH was actually illegal outside of professional sports. If you want to use it for your own service I thought it was okay. Hense why you see testimonials and a lot of sites selling it that look legit.


also uh... are you *sure* you're allergic to creatine, and not just something in one of those unnecessarily complicated and retarded creatine products like celltech?

Creatine supplements are generally 1 ingredient (creatine monohydrate) which occurs naturally in the body and being allergic would mean you're allergic to fish and meat.

Not that they're even necessary to build muscle, but yeah.

It's something in creatine, not sure what though. Probably one of those long ass words, not really sure.

[Atreides]

so then you're just allergic to your particular creatine supplement.

if you have your heart set on taking creatine supps then find one that just has creatine monohydrate and nothing else, there's like 0 chance you're allergic to that since you get around 1-2g a day from just eating normal food.

[MaachaQ]

All I had to do was Google "Side effects of HGH" ^^;

http://www.antiaginginfo.net/hgh-side-effects.htm


HGH Side Effects

HGH side effects are a concern for anyone looking at hormone therapy to slow down or reverse the aging process. The side effects of HGH use can be scary and researchers are still working on the optimal dosage to reduce adverse reactions and enhance results. As with any drug each person must weigh the benefits against the drawbacks and decide if the end justifies the means.

HGH side effects range from the minor joint pain and some fluid retention to the more serious high blood pressure and abnormal bone and cartilage growth. Most medicinal use of HGH focuses on short-term correction of a hormonal imbalance. General growth hormone side effects from this type of use tend to be fluid retention, joint pain, a reversible insulin resistance, and some joint swelling.

HGH for anti-aging or "plastic surgery in a bottle" use leads to more long-term complications such as high blood pressure, more serious fluid retention, chronic joint pain and swelling, and some facial bone growth. Long-term abuse, as seen in athletic use, can lead to more pronounced, and sometimes deadly, side effects such as irregular heart rhythms, increased risk of diabetes, joint and facial deformities, and a shut down of the pituitary glands.

HGH side effects can be reduced by limiting the length of time the hormone is used. Lowering the dosage of human growth hormone can also reduce the number and severity of these reactions. Human growth hormone is a drug. The introduction of any foreign substance, even if your body produces some naturally, will trigger reactions by the body. These reactions cause the effects that we see with any drug. HGH side effects also come from the extra growth hormone in the body along with what is already produced by the pituitary glands.

Some of the more serious side effects of HGH come from the abuse of the hormone. This abuse can come in the form of taking too much of the substance or taking it for too long. Milder versions of these problems can occur from the abuse of supplemental forms of HGH sold over-the-counter.

Your body needs time to return to a normal state of function. If you take more than the suggested dosage for a long period of time you will see complications arise from this abuse. You liver has to work harder to process this externally introduced HGH running through your blood. This could lead to liver stress, and ultimately liver damage. Your body may recognize a higher level of HGH in the bloodstream and stop producing as much for itself. If this goes on long enough the pituitary glands begin to shut down.

HGH side effects can come from any HGH use. Minimizing the side effects by lower the dosage and the length of time on the growth hormone can be helpful. Each person must weigh the benefits against the possibilities and decide if this course will help them reach their anti aging goals.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Growth_hormone



Side-effects
Main article: HGH controversies

There is theoretical concern that HGH treatment may increase the risks of diabetes, especially in those with other predispositions treated with higher doses. If used for training, growth at a young age (25 or less) can cause severe symptoms. One survey of adults that had been treated with replacement cadaver GH (which has not been used anywhere in the world since 1985) during childhood showed a mildly increased incidence of colon cancer and prostate cancer, but linkage with the GH treatment was not established.[31]

Regular application of extra GH may show several negative side-effects such as joint swelling, joint pain, carpal tunnel syndrome, and an increased risk of diabetes.[25]


History

Following a study in 1990 by Rudman[1] which showed fat loss, muscle mass increase and maintenance of healthy skin from the administration of growth hormone in elderly men, there has been a burgeoning industry surrounding the sale and administration of HGH and its purported anti-aging effects.

A report from the United States House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform on steroid and growth hormone use found that the misguided use of HGH by professional athletes and entertainers was fuelling the industry peddling the drug to the general public for medically inappropriate uses[2].
[edit] Research

As is common with such therapies, the literature is now dominated by advocacy from pharmaceutical companies, with solid medical evidence harder to find. However, systematic reviews have demonstrated that hGH supplementation does not significantly increase muscle strength or aerobic exercise capacity in healthy individuals[3]. While it is possible that there are some advantages, it is also evident that benefits are being exaggerated by some for commercial gain[4].
[edit] Side-effects

Some of the side effects reportedly seen in previously healthy mature patients after taking HGH include:

* Edema (retention of fluids) in extremities[5]
* Arthralgia (joint pain)[5]
* Carpal tunnel syndrome[5]
* Hypertension
* Diabetes and other glucose metabolism imbalances[5]
* Gynecomastia (enlargement of male mammary glands)[5]

Chronic use of HGH is not well studied, except when used in children for acute growth deficiencies. A long term increase in colon cancer and Hodgkin's Disease has been observed in these cases.[6]

[Zalius]

how tall are you, about how many miles/day do you walk/run regardless of workouts (est), and what are you eating right now?

a. you need to eat more. theres no way around this, even if youre taking supps.
b. do you really want to risk using creatine over having slightly better looking features slightly faster? you could probably get the same results without the creatine in another 1-2 months. it's not like it's unlocking some new potential in your body, it just does what your lazy ass is too lazy to do. you're still going to HAVE to eat more.

Be consistent. Don't just increase your calories on workout days, increase them all of the time. Set a goal to eat 115-120% of your caloric needs per day, walk an extra mile and keep going bigger. bench doesn't really mean jack shit, its just a relative point of reference.

my best advice, honestly, is go to the gym and find someone that looks like you want to look, and ask them if it's ok if you sit in on their session and ask them a few questions. most health and nutrition freaks will be more than happy to talk their whole workout (burns faster) and tell you how to improve yourself.

[Omnipotent]

All I had to do was Google "Side effects of HGH" ^^; http://www.antiaginginfo.net/hgh-side-effects.htm

There are side effects to drinking milk and snoring. I saw that but ignored it, I don't plan on abusing HGH, I intend to take it respectfully. Besides, you get those side effects from just about anything.

[archibaldcrane]

I am 5'10.5ish. Maybe 5'11 not sure. I didn't think HGH was actually illegal outside of professional sports. If you want to use it for your own service I thought it was okay. Hense why you see testimonials and a lot of sites selling it that look legit.Whoa, ok.

I thought you were like 5'6 or something. Dude. Don't be retarded. If you're that tall (my height exactly, actually) - you can't just...put on muscle weight without eating more. It's not possible. The only thing slowing down your increased bulk is lack of calories - that's it. If you're that strong at that height/weight, it's just a calories in/out issue here. Period.

Don't waste money on HGH. Find a pure creatine source to avoid whatever allergy you're dealing with. And yeah, it's illegal.

21 USC § 333(e) prohibits the distribution or possession with intent to distribute hGH for any use in humans other than for recognized medical reasons and pursuant to a valid prescription. Violations may be punishable by imprisonment of up to 5 years (10 years if to a person under 18 years).It's prescription drug abuse, essentially.

[Omnipotent]

Whoa, ok.

I thought you were like 5'6 or something. Dude. Don't be retarded. If you're that tall (my height exactly, actually) - you can't just...put on muscle weight without eating more. It's not possible. The only thing slowing down your increased bulk is lack of calories - that's it. If you're that strong at that height/weight, it's just a calories in/out issue here. Period.

Don't waste money on HGH. Find a pure creatine source to avoid whatever allergy you're dealing with. And yeah, it's illegal.
It's prescription drug abuse, essentially.

Alright lol. I just don't think I can eat anymore lol. I literally eat HUGE meals 3x a day with almost immediate snacking in between. Guess I am off to Mcdonalds tomorrow.

[Suited Aces]

The supplement that OP linked isn't HGH. It's just gonna make your body produce more. Well that's what it claims to do.

[N3AND3RTHAL]

Personally, I wouldn't take HGH. I played college baseball/semi-pro and HGH usage was everywhere. I've seen too many bad side effects to ever consider it.

I'm a bit confused what you want your goals to be. At one point, you seemed like you wanted tone, at another bulk. If you want to bulk up particular muscles, do lower reps of higher weight. Protein, protein, protein. It will make you shit a ton more than you even normally do. Make another shake. If you are still doing cardio, you may want to tone it down while trying to bulk up.

Of course a lot of this comes down to what body type you are. I have an extremely easy time putting on 10 lbs in the gym if I want to, but have to really work for tone. My best advice would be to acknowledge your own particular strengths and maximize them if what you want is a beach body.

[archibaldcrane]

How old are you? You're obviously thin at that height-weight, but I imagine you're pretty fucking shredded. Do you really want to stuff your face with a shitload of cholesterol just to put on a few more pounds for your "beach body"? (also ps it's fucking winter)

I'd say "your metabolism will slow down as you age"..but my brother is 5'11 150 and he's 31 - although he's mostly vegetarian.

[Omnipotent]

How old are you? You're obviously thin at that height-weight, but I imagine you're pretty fucking shredded. Do you really want to stuff your face with a shitload of cholesterol just to put on a few more pounds for your "beach body"? (also ps it's fucking winter)

I'd say "your metabolism will slow down as you age"..but my brother is 5'11 150 and he's 31 - although he's mostly vegetarian.

Winter is one of the main reasons I do this. I work harder and hit the gym more during winter, which is usually where people get lazy and fall asleep under warm blankets. I solely really want to use HGH or whatever to rape my shoulders and abs. I have abs, I used to have a 6 pack with a shadowed 8 pack, but after my surgery on my hip, I have a strong 4 pack with a faint 6 pack.

Edit: 20, 21 in 4 months.

[archibaldcrane]

Just the cost and legal issues aren't worth it. No reason why you can't build your shoulders and get your 6 pack back naturally.

[Dolmen]

Edit: 20, 21 in 4 months.

As you get older you'll pack on more pounds/mass. I was (somewhat) in your position when I was 19-21 in that I could eat massive meals, and all working out did is tone me. I was tone as hell, but I was 6'3 and ~140 lbs. Now that I'm 29, I'm 6'5 and fluctuate between 190-210ish depending on the time of year (busy times at work I'll put on the fat). I'd recommend sucking it up for a bit and let age catch up to your metabolism. I also stopped eating massive meals, and now eat 5-6 smaller meals per day. This was probably the biggest change I made that helped me gain more.

I'm not sure why it took me getting older to be able to build more muscle, but I also grew two inches from 25-29, so I'm guessing my body widened as well.

[Weeks]

hGH causes you to put on water weight. It doesn't increase functional strength.

Plus, yeah, it's illegal outside of some very limited medical uses, and everything you see about the wonders of hGH are from before the government started cracking down on its uses, when quacks were hyping it for everything.

[Atreides]

I solely really want to use HGH or whatever to rape my shoulders and abs.

making your abs show is a lot more about diet than it is about what you do in the gym and what supplements/drugs you take.

if you're planning on bulking up and adding muscle mass, then having ab definition should probably be the last thing on your mind, last thing you want is to starve yourself and short circuit your progress when you can easily burn the flab off after you put on some lean mass

as mentioned earlier you should probably figure out what you want first

[Celeras]

Alright lol. I just don't think I can eat anymore lol. I literally eat HUGE meals 3x a day with almost immediate snacking in between. Guess I am off to Mcdonalds tomorrow.

If you're serious about wanting to gain weight, 5-6 smaller meals kicks the shit out of 3 big meals for calorie intake.

[Ghost_Wheel22]

Alright lol. I just don't think I can eat anymore lol. I literally eat HUGE meals 3x a day with almost immediate snacking in between. Guess I am off to Mcdonalds tomorrow.

6-10 meals per day, each no bigger then your closed fist. Eating huge portions of food is a no-no. Your body gets sluggish and becomes unable to process nutrients efficiently so you end up shitting out perfectly good food.

And true allergies to creatine products are relatively uncommon, most comes from the random shit companies mix in for product fluffing.

Need to clearly rethink your shit if you're hoping for HGH or AS to solve your plateau problems.

[Meat]

My metabolizm is on crack. I shit after I eat everything. I shit 3-4x a day at least. Not to mention I can out eat Man vs Food, and still lose weight. No I don't have worms or some form of virus.

supplement with some higher calorie shakes. i can assure being 150 is nowhere near a plateau of any sort. there's no point in resorting to as\hgh when you're that small and that young.

[Nekonaruto]

Don't forget to post a pic of your muscles when you're done, so some scam site can use it as their picture...or was it the other way I around?

[Chips]

Don't forget to post a pic of your muscles when you're done, so some scam site can use it as their picture...or was it the other way I around?

I'm assuming it's the other way around, but if it's not that really sucks for Buckethead, haha. If that was me, I'd freak out everytime I saw an online ad with myself in it.

[N3AND3RTHAL]

If you want abs the key is cardio. Oh, and not doing 20 crunches and thinking you are done. People go to the gym and do chest for an hour and half, do 20 crunches, and expect abs. They work the same as any other muscle.

[EternalSnow]

Don't forget to post a pic of your muscles when you're done, so some scam site can use it as their picture...or was it the other way I around?

Was the other way around D:

[kisada]

try fixing your diet first before you go with HGH. as people said, eat smaller but more varied meals a day. if you're willing to do HGH, then you should be willing to wake up every 4 hours to eat, no exceptions. also, do some research and determine what your current daily calorie deficit or surplus is and try to get it into the +500 range every day. that'll generally give you the best returns on adding lean muscle. you're complaining about having too high a metabolism, but if that's the case you pretty much already know the answer: you're bleeding calories. so find your daily number, whether it's + or -, and keep it on the + side.

try hunting for some non-whey protein powders. shakes are obviously really good as drinking them as snacks will help you a lot in maintaining a positive surplus. if you don't typically have anything to eat or drink post-workout, i recommend either some kind of protein shake (if you find some non-whey powder) or a large glass of chocolate milk. having a very particular ratio of carbs to protein up to 2 hours after a workout will help you immensely in growth and recovery (though something within 45 mins is best). a lot of people think just going crazy on protein is the best thing you can do, but adding the right mix of carbs to that protein helps you produce more insulin, which is key for muscle growth. try chocolate milk within the first 30 minutes, then a protein shake 90 minutes later.

do you take any supplements? creatine isn't the only thing out there. i'd highly recommend taking glutamine supplements daily. it does a bunch of things, but the most important thing it does is it helps prevent muscles from breaking down while you work out.

one last thing you could try is re-evaluating whatever current exercises you're doing now. make sure you're doing a lowish amount of reps per set (something heavy enough to hit fail rep by 12), as more than 15 means it's too light and you're not optimizing growth. also completely junking your exercises and weightlifting schedule every now and then and starting anew will help jump start you once you stop seeing growth. i'm doing a shoulders > chest/bi > back/tri workout split and maybe in a couple months i'll switch out some of the individual exercises and go for a shoulders > chest/tri > back/bi split.

obviously it doesn't really answer your original question on HGH but there are a lot of easier things you can do before resorting to that.

[Jodwahh]

To point out the obvious just pig out on fucking everything. Want to eat pizza? Eat 2! Those donuts looking tasty? Buy a tray! Dinner was tasty? Make another one!

[Plow]

http://greensboring.com/pod/meatcake02.jpg

[Jodwahh]

Plows got the right idea.

[Chips]

Plows got the right idea.

Not at all, you don't just want calories.

[Jodwahh]

I know he doesn't just need calories, but eatting that entire beef cake thing would certainly help him to put on some weight.

[Plow]

beef cake

someone almost caught it

[melbufrauma]

yeah when trying to put on muscle you cant just eat things thinking to put on weight then turn to muscle.. ie do not eat mcdonalds or anything fast food, go stock up on steaks and chicken and fish

[Diamicles]

quit trying to take shortcuts that will affect your health later in life and just work for it naturally.

[dudeguy]

someone almost caught it

if that was a south park reference i am going to kill you in your sleep

[Omnipotent]

yeah when trying to put on muscle you cant just eat things thinking to put on weight then turn to muscle.. ie do not eat mcdonalds or anything fast food, go stock up on steaks and chicken and fish

Haven't had fast food aside from the rare taco bell in years. I was just joking on that :P. I usually make a HUGE pot of rice, poach alot of chicken add it all togethar with some crushed red pepper and a little hot sauce and Im golden for dinner for a week.

[Meat]

what's your shake intake like?

[Omnipotent]

what's your shake intake like?

Find it really hard to take down a shake, everytime I try one, it feels like I have something stuck in my throat.

[Takedown3]

smoke weed

[Meat]

Find it really hard to take down a shake, everytime I try one, it feels like I have something stuck in my throat.

there's your problem, there's absolutely no way anyone can stomach 2-400g of protein a day without supplementation. Find a shake that works for you, find a method of making the shake that works for you.

[archibaldcrane]

Muscle Milk blended with ice and water is delicious. If you can't handle that, then you're not going to be able to handle any shake.

(it's not the best shake you can use nutritionally but it's the tastiest)

[Nyx]

Find a protein shake that you can tolerate, drink those, and eat loads of egg beaters, ground turkey, chicken, fish (if you like it, tuna is the easiest), beef, cottage cheese, and eat things like peanut butter, almonds, or cashews as snacks.

You need to up your protein content. Be sure to eat at least every two hours or so, too (even if it's only a handful of almonds).

[Guppy]

http://www.genf20.com/order.html


HGH is a peptide hormone, like insulin. Unfortunately, this means that, similar to insulin, it mostly gets digested if swallowed, and the molecule is too large to be efficiently adsorbed through sprays, sublingual tablets, and other such methods.

[Omnipotent]

Find a protein shake that you can tolerate, drink those, and eat loads of egg beaters, ground turkey, chicken, fish (if you like it, tuna is the easiest), beef, cottage cheese, and eat things like peanut butter, almonds, or cashews as snacks.

You need to up your protein content. Be sure to eat at least every two hours or so, too (even if it's only a handful of almonds).

I have a tuna sandwich almost every day. Put tuna in my rice/chicken bowl combo too.

Thanx for the tip guys. Let's give some of these a try.

[shepardG]

syntha-6, best protein i've came across personally, i buy a case of bottle water, and a funnel, (did this a ton in afghanistan as water is free over there) drink like 2-3 mouth fulls of the 20oz water, funnel in 2 scoops of protein, cap and shake. When your done, toss that shit. Because i hate fucking cleaning my shakers ever fucking day.

If your trying to get your Biceps to pop, try not focusing on them. Use complex excercises such as pullups (over and under handed) and get to the point where your doing 5 sets of 5 reps with progressive weight. I know i stoped blasting my arms and wound up puting an inch on them i think because i wasn't tearing them down as much, by curling the shit out of dumbells. Just weight room advice, do what feels best above all else

[richardd]

i never actually took supplements whenever i work out, i used to consider it a "temporary fix". but after seeing the success people had with it, i cant help but be curious about it. especially how fast some people are getting results in the gym that i used to go to. im maxing out at about 370 whenever i bench, but thats not really anything to be proud of since im naturally a big guy and now im focused on doing lesser weights/higher reps. but im now interested in including these shakes into my diet after talking with residue about it. i just cant find out which one is good for me lol. they have a TON of weight gain ones <_>; i dont need that shit lol. i used to pile up eggwhites so this is gonna be new for me. i gotta do some research and see how much protein i can fit in 1 glass.

its cool as hell to see BG peers all working for a similiar goal though. :D

[archibaldcrane]

370 is no joke - how big are you?

[richardd]

370 is no joke - how big are you?

eh, its ok in general i guess. but fact of the matter is, you are more fit than me in that dept regardless since the ratio on your end is better. and 370 isnt really bad i guess. im proud of myself for it, but i seen small korean guys half my size put up more weight with more reps lol


im 6'2 and i weigh about 280. i will post a pic later to show you in general how my body is at its natural state, its cool anyways since that RL pic thread went to shit.


gimme about an hour or 2 since im heading off to LA fitness now lol

[Meat]

i never actually took supplements whenever i work out, i used to consider it a "temporary fix". but after seeing the success people had with it, i cant help but be curious about it. especially how fast some people are getting results in the gym that i used to go to. im maxing out at about 370 whenever i bench, but thats not really anything to be proud of since im naturally a big guy and now im focused on doing lesser weights/higher reps. but im now interested in including these shakes into my diet after talking with residue about it. i just cant find out which one is good for me lol. they have a TON of weight gain ones <_>; i dont need that shit lol. i used to pile up eggwhites so this is gonna be new for me. i gotta do some research and see how much protein i can fit in 1 glass.

its cool as hell to see BG peers all working for a similiar goal though. :D

Don't change your lifting, keep doing w\e rep range got you going to a 370 bench. all that less weight more reps shit is going to do is cause you to sweat some water weight off and lose strength.

good protein powders are like isopure and isolyze, but they're expensive because you're paying for the name. optimum nutrition has some decently priced stuff

[archibaldcrane]

I actually can't lift for shit now - training for this marathon has liquidated all my muscle - I couldn't even put up 225 a few weeks ago. I'm going to be a fucking stick by March, it sucks. I'm down to about 170 now and I'm sure I'll keep losing weight, but I know a bunch of it is muscle. Bleh.

[Meat]

marathon, why would you ever.

[archibaldcrane]

marathon, why would you ever.Out of spite for marathoners who think they're doing something -soooo- amazing.

I hate running, it's awful.

Brb 8 miles. :(

[Tyche]

Soon, you'll be as skinny....
http://208.177.25.18/0/56114/325/56114-325-014f.jpg

[archibaldcrane]

How do these fat bitches run marathons and still stay fat?

That's what I don't get. Yeah I know they're running 5:30 times, but still - how do you do even a moderate amount of training, and then slowly jog 26.2 miles, and still be all huge?

Shit doesn't make sense.

[Tyche]

I think I can safely say that I can't even begin to answer that question. I manage to keep a constant weight, no gain or loss.

[archibaldcrane]

Oh god. I usually run shirtless, but it was pretty chilly and the sun was setting.

After 8 miles, fuck my nipples hurt. Ow :(

[Tyche]

Protip: polyester

[richardd]

special thanks to residue and a lot of other peeps on here who provided info


this is the most recent (ugly) pic i could get of me, arch. my friend took the pic and she was sitting on my bed i guess when she took it. i hate looking down. it makes my face look fat :(


anyways, this is me in natural form i guess. no flexing.

http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/2219/picture717.jpg

im no where near the lvl of the peers i ask for advice on here for, but i can still use lots of improvement. after FFXI left my life, i mustve gained like 70 lbs lol. luckily, weight is 10x easier to lose than it is to build muscle. so in about 1-2 months, i went from 340 to 280. my initial weight before than was 240, and i wore size 38 jeans. the pants i have on in the pic are SUPER baggy, but they are around 44 lol. so im assuming i might be 42 now? im 6'2, 280, and i know i got a belly still and love handles but my size 15 shoes make me look proportioned to my body still lol. im 22 so i still have a long way to go, but im on the right track

residue is my savior tho man. all the workouts i thought were meaningless turned out to be the shit i needed to do.:D


god what a terrible pic. i just got done workin out and my hair is a fuckin mess. im such a woman sometimes when it comes to lookin good for the camera. i guess i was just too exhausted to look good for my peers on BG lol

[archibaldcrane]

I knew it before...


...but the fact that you're a gigantic black dude is still just so fucking weird for me Richardd.

Anyway, that looks like a really good base to slim down/build up from.

[richardd]

I knew it before...


...but the fact that you're a gigantic black dude is still just so fucking weird for me Richardd.

Anyway, that looks like a really good base to slim down/build up from.

im like rykoshet #2

but i can say the same thing about you. until i saw your pic, i thought of you as some tall big buff ladies man. i had no idea you were skinny like tyche haha (still tall tho). but i admire you guys for those marathons. i did one before a long time ago, so know the hard work that follows through it. gl with that shit homiez! and thanks for the compliment :)

[archibaldcrane]

Heh. Noone questions Ryko's blackness.

And I'm really about the most average height, average-built middle of the road white american dude ever. Not even close to Tyche-skinny thank god, although I do fear for my future...

Oh, and remember, I'm running this marathon out of spite. What I'm doing is not to be admired, I'm doing it so that I can say to all the marathoner assholes who think they are doing something to be admired "yeah - you ran a marathon, so fucking what? you're still a twat, shut up about your stupid marathon, running sucks cock."

[Gorki]

I think I can safely say that I can't even begin to answer that question. I manage to keep a constant weight, no gain or loss.

This, been 155 for as long as I can remember.

Off Topic: What marathon are you running? Just did the Detroit Freepress Marathon and it was a goddamn torture. 3 people died..

[archibaldcrane]

Off Topic: What marathon are you running? Just did the Detroit Freepress Marathon and it was a goddamn torture. 3 people died..Ah, I heard about that - you see I work in television, and what they didn't tell you was there is no "Detroit Freepress Marathon" - that was actually a reality show pilot for a new series on NBC in 2010 called "The Running Man".

Now see, that's the type of marathon I can get down with. People dying? Awesome. Marathon runners dying? Great, fuck those guys and their stupid marathons, serves them right.

On Off Topic: I'm running the LA Marathon at the end of march - it actually has a pretty cool course this year (instead of running a loop between downtown and koreatown - so miserable) - It runs from Dodger Stadium, along Sunset and then Hollywood Blvd through Hollywood, Beverly Hills, past UCLA, through Santa Monica to the ocean. http://www.lamarathon.com/event/course-map/

Basically my friends tricked me into it while I was sleeping. Long story.

[Gorki]

That sounds more like a Fox pilot ;)

Ahhh LA marathon, I have former teammates going to that as well. Being tricked is okay, I got tricked into literally running for 9 years...

[Ghost_Wheel22]

Heh. Noone questions Ryko's blackness.

Holy shit Ryko's black?!

[antihero]

oops, I dunno how I managed to bump this, it was on the first page somehow, delete ploxx

[Pikarya]

http://www.animalpak.com/

Pricey, but it works and you get what you pay for. Make sure to get the supplement you require.

[Diamicles]

eat more, 140-150 is far far from the natural limit.

THIS

I weight 148 and don't push heavy weights, and I have to limit my caloric intake because I'm trying to NOT gain weight right now.

[ZarakiKujata]

so then you're just allergic to your particular creatine supplement.

if you have your heart set on taking creatine supps then find one that just has creatine monohydrate and nothing else, there's like 0 chance you're allergic to that since you get around 1-2g a day from just eating normal food.

Seriously this was my first thought. Creatine is naturally occuring in protein, you'd probably be dead if you were allergic to it for real.

[Osede]

Winter is one of the main reasons I do this. I work harder and hit the gym more during winter, which is usually where people get lazy and fall asleep under warm blankets. I solely really want to use HGH or whatever to rape my shoulders and abs. I have abs, I used to have a 6 pack with a shadowed 8 pack, but after my surgery on my hip, I have a strong 4 pack with a faint 6 pack.

Edit: 20, 21 in 4 months.

if you are 20 and 21, it is normal. Probably just want to hit close to 4500 a day. It just that you are still very young. My housemate also used to like shit at least twice a day, while I'm like once every two days. And I workout more than him, but I was like 4-5 years older than him.

What you can do is dont eat too big meal at once, but some what big for 4-5times a day (aka dont let your stomach feel extremely full after each meal). Then you probably can eat more

[Atreides]

why the hell are people responding to old ass posts

[shaddix]

I dunno but here's my contribution


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbxKpipTNZg

[Chips]

^ Was that supposed to be impressive? I do that in my sleep. Might be because they're dreams... regardless. WEAK