For those of us who plan to keep on keepin on in FFXIV

[Ikith]

We've seen a ton of "Are you quitting after trial?" threads and all of that.

I was wondering who is planning on staying and why.

I plan to because I like the story so far and I'm HOPING it will get better.

[Saroyan]

I'm staying because I'm holding on to hope, and I already bought the crysta on 9/21.

[Lucavi]

Can someone who is good at photoshop "obamacize" the FFXIV logo with the words "hope" underneath it? I'd love that for my ava, because this game elicits more hope than Jesus and Obama in 08 combined!

[Egon]

Can someone who is good at photoshop "obamacize" the FFXIV logo with the words "hope" underneath it? I'd love that for my ava, because this game elicits more hope than Jesus and Obama in 08 combined!

/thread.

But really, I'm staying because no one plays C&C3:KW anymore.

Also I don't want my new comp build to goto waste.


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[Lucavi]

I play that shit, Egon. I'll look for you. Kane Lives!

[Shade]

I have more patience than six of the average person.
Also, it's a great way to fill bars.

[Nartosar]

I know it will get better. This game is not launch-ready, but will be later.

[Krysania]

I probobly won't play hardcore til some of the more devious issues (skill point gain) are worked out, but I'll continue to amass a small fortune from leves and crafting, as well as hang out with friends still.

[miokomioko]

Yeah, the biggest issues aren't affecting me much because I'm easing into the game instead of trying to hit the ground running. Just trying to get a financial foundation for when I dive into the melee shit after they solidify some of the inconsistencies.

It'll get fixed eventually. Some people are in a big hurry, I'm not.

[Podginator]

The quests are interesting. I'll continue for them, and as others have said, the game will get better. The problem is, with the game like it is, I have little desire to grind out the levels necessary to continue the story.

Hopefully fixes will come soon.

[Zeille]

I'm just playing casually for the time being. No rush at all and I'm enjoying myself. I seriously doubt SE will continue to ignore the problems.

I just hope it's sooner rather than later.

[Egon]

I play that shit, Egon. I'll look for you. Kane Lives!

Cool, name is NpVispor

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[Maaglin]

I'll keep playing since I'm not hardcore about it. I log in for a couple hours after work 3-4 days a week, and maybe will play an 8 hour Saturday sometimes. I feel satisfied with the amount of work to progress ratio I receive doing this.

Long term outlook would be holding out hope that the basic issues get fixed asap. It's a big turn off that there's no search feature, AH, menus suck, can only open 1 window at a time, market wards are a joke, party mechanics are shit, etc. However, since I'm just basically playing solo until this stuff gets sorted, it doesn't affect my gameplay as much as others.

[Achitophel]

^^Same.

[Grey Jorildyn]

Sticking with it too, but at my own pace (which is quite a bit faster than the casual player). Also slammed with graduate classes, but making my time to play when I can.

I have hope for the game too. I wouldn't call them "high hopes" though, just the regular flavor. Looking forward to learning about Gladiator and Thaumaturge a bit, and seeing how party play shapes up.

[fussel]

<- is having fun with some cool LS people. That's worth far more than a technically perfect game.

[Gulkeeva]

Miqo'te and patience like mentioned, some people can't last more then a few min.. or a few days ;/

Hopefully they don't add something like ffxi's old peacock harm method of obtaining that thing... sat in that cave in pretty much 1 spot for a month staring at the screen for endless hours to get it O_o

[crazyrabbit]

I actualy like the game :/
No LS, only botanist and some crafting, searching through bazaars for hours every day, getting no new tool or guild marks and i still have fun. Maybe i'm just weird. I also want to reach max lvl at least once to see the current end of the story.

[EckoGecko]

I only have enough time to play for about 2 hours every other day, so I'm usually just doing leves then logging off. For now I will keep my account because I'd like to progress as the game evolves and gets better. However, if the game isn't patched up and established further (soon) I don't see myself going past January.

Since day one I've felt the game was rushed. Just the thought of not having functions such as search, AH or being able to locate party members on maps is ridiculous.

[Lutia]

Can someone who is good at photoshop "obamacize" the FFXIV logo with the words "hope" underneath it? I'd love that for my ava, because this game elicits more hope than Jesus and Obama in 08 combined!

So I thought what I'd do is .... do exactly that.

http://www.gley.net/ffxiv/ffxiv-obama.png

http://www.gley.net/ffxiv/ffxiv-obama2.jpg

Although I can't really say I hate the game, there's definitely some things that need changing.

[CasualPlayer]

^ Are u the same Lutia that played with Eden? Think I recognize your avatar from their board.

[Lutia]

Of course. There is only one true Lutia :P

[Machazareel]

Damn straight.

And I'll be sticking around as well. Despite the game's many flaws, I'm still having a decent amount of fun, and that's the most important part.

[Meresgi]

I'm staying on, ill give them the change to improve while waiting till PS3 launch. If they don't impress me by then, then i'll probably give Cataclysm a go for a bit and come back later. I didnt expect this game to be amazing at launch but instead have a good foundation to it that hopefully SE can springboard off of.

[Kirbyprime]

I'm staying on for the next 6 months regardless. Already bought Crysta and expected this to be paid beta for a while anyways. Plus I mostly craft so the exp based bugs don't affect me.

[SathFenrir]

Have low / sporadic playtime that shelters me from the majority of the bullshit. I can focus on just grinding leves only and missions as I want.

[Katagai]

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Haven't gotten bored yet, hoping I don't anytime soon either. Don't really have much else to play (that I'm interested in anyways). Finding it kind of weird that this is the only game that I actually enjoy crafting in.

[Teakwood]

I don't expect to give a shit about DoW and DoM classes for another month or so -anyways- at this rate, I'm having a blast crafting and harvesting and nerding about with friends. Pretty sure that by the time I -do- want to roll into Lancer/Conj/Thau, they'll have made party play less of a joke.

[Synbios]

Yeah, the biggest issues aren't affecting me much because I'm easing into the game instead of trying to hit the ground running. Just trying to get a financial foundation for when I dive into the melee shit after they solidify some of the inconsistencies.

It'll get fixed eventually. Some people are in a big hurry, I'm not.

Basically this. I work full time and go to school full time so my playtime is extremely limited. It's that those who are in the "I'm staying" camp are taking this game casually, while those who are hardcore leveling are in the "I'm leaving" camp.

The biggest problem is most of the I'm leaving people I don't feel have ever played a MMO at launch. While I'm sure some have, I find it hard to believe the majority has. There has never, and probably never will be, a MMO that launches with 100% success. I'm not saying that 14 doesn't have major flaws, but giving up so early is just a bad idea IMO. You have to look at how responsive the developer is in the first few months to get a real grasp for how the game will be shaped.

When my free month is up I plan on just purchasing a 6 month pass to save the money. If after 7 months of playing SE hasn't shown that they are taking steps to move forward, I will reevaluate if I want to keep playing or not.

[Lucavi]

I don't see why its a bad idea at all. You've already paid for the game. Its yours. When you want to come back, its not like you have to buy it all over again; you simply start paying the 13 bucks and presto, you're back in it.

Why continue to beat your head against a wall if that's what playing the game feels like to you? Why pay to do that?

If the developers are responsive in the first 6 months, then you come back in 6 months. The devs upgrading the game isn't dependent on my 13 bucks each month; they can earn it back if they want it badly enough.

[Greedouw]

staying on because I have faith that the game WILL get better. Also, as others have stated, I'm casually playing the game so most of the issues the "hardcore crowd" are experiencing really aren't effecting me

[Yoli]

I'm sticking around. If the combat lag fixes itself by the time I start doing anything serious I'll be more or less fine with things. Until I'm doing anything serious, it's more of a nuisance than a problem I simply can't handle. I like the story I've seen so far, like how SE has made the reasonable changes they have so far (as w/ quickly setting up names for their wards), and have had enough fun that I see no problem dropping 15 dollars a month for the next few months or more. It's hardly a fortune. Crafting is pretty fun too (or would be w/ a few less menus... I like the orb thingy though, and the system they have). I had an xp party with 3-4 people the other night once our shared leves were done, and even that was pretty fun. And reasonably productive for skill gain once we stopped trying to skill on IT mobs and started focusing on easier ones in areas with really fast repops. The imbalance in how points are distributed was annoying, but it even sounds like SE is starting to look at the XP system a bit, from the Oct 8th update news. Maybe they'll look into it in a positive way, and people will start xping together more.

I like running around to various spots, and look forward to doing a lot more of that shortly when I'm a bit higher leveled. Personally I find the cut/paste terrain complaints silly, and have a great time looking at new places. Stuck just under rank 20 now, because I haven't had as much time to play as I'd like. But I can't really complain that I have other important things to be doing, since I have a vested interest in how those turn out as well.

Plus, I'm not much of a pc/console game person in general, so it's not as if I would be using my free time on another one if this wasn't out, or if I stopped playing this. That's probably a factor for me.

[Ketna]

I am enjoying the game as I do not have the 5+ hours a night like I used to when FFXI was new. Now I only spend maybe 3 hours and that is enough time for a couple of leaves and some crafting. I think the game is fun, and I'll stick around until January at least. But for fucks sake they need to bring over the things that were already in FFXI and I would be that much happier.
For me thats compact keyboard settings so I can use the fucking arrow keys for camera, an auction house or being able to use keywords to search like in Lineage 2, and being able to fucking organize my inventory. But other then that I am excited to see this game grow.

[LD]

Even if I had the time to play FFXIV (@ 0 gaming atm), I'm waiting til the first update to cast any enduring judgement. If after the first update things are still more or less the same in terms of shit that's wrong with stuff, I'll probably full time cata and never play a SE MMO again (to be clear, I'm playing cata either way, not mutually exclusive).

[Noob]

http://www.gley.net/ffxiv/ffxiv-obama.png
http://www.gley.net/ffxiv/ffxiv-obama2.jpg

You are awesome.

[Sheebs]

I will just keep doing the guildleves in my spare-time while I wait for Cataclysm to come out.

[Aristio]

I enjoy my time in this game. I know the game will get better, and when it does, I'll have a -lot- of the grinding done already. The market wards aren't as half as you put it out to be once you have a supplier. Make some crafting friends, and have them craft everything for you.

[Algoth]

I actually feel a bit ashamed, but I'm probably gonna continue playing after the free month, even though the game is in pretty bad shape. Not the worst launch I've seen, but still pretty bad. I actually cancelled my CE after the beta literally lagged so much I couldn't even move in the game, but decided to try the retail version after all and pre-ordered the standard version.
I've lost my shit with this game already more times than I can count already (mostly because of technical difficulties, my computer sucks) but somehow, even though there are about million things wrong with this game at the moment, I really like it. I dunno if that's just my FFXI nostalgia (FFXI was my first MMO, so I tend to compare every MMO to it) or if it's the fact that the game is so different from the MMOs I've been playing more recently (EVE, WoW, EQ2 to name few).
I spend my time mostly playing DoL and DoH classes, mainly because the lag makes playing combat classes pretty painful. Crafting and gathering are my favorite things in MMOs anyway, though I do love endgame raids and such too.

I'm considering upgrading my graphics card to alleviate at least some of my problems with the game (I can't go to Limsa Lominsa anymore, the game turns into a slideshow), but I'm curious; can anyone with a high-end system tell me how bad the server lag is? I get about 2-3 sec lag with my actions (crafting, combat abilities) but I can't really tell if it's client- or server-side lag.

[Lucavi]

Its a mix. Having a god-rig will certainly help you, but you'll still see people jumping here or there, and there's still a noticeable delay on pulling up menus and crafting and whatnot. I installed the game both on my mid-range rig, and my brother's God rig, so there's a massive difference where he can run everything maxed and I cannot, so many times i'll do my crafting over there and my fighting over here.

Upgrading certainly wouldn't hurt your gameplay, but expecting everything to be 100% smooth, especially anything concerning menus or crafting, isn't realistic at this point.

[Maaglin]

Everyone is experiencing server lag / delays, whatever you want to call it. I'm running an ATI 5870 with an overclocked i7 920 @ 4.0 Ghz and I bought an SSD just for my OS and this game. I run the game pretty much on max settings, although I did crank down shadows a bit since I was slightly stuttering in town. If I need to go do something in a very busy part of town, it can on rare occasions start to be a problem so I just turn down the settings until I'm done with my business. My video card does run pretty hot though while playing, so I keep tabs on it and manually adjust through catalyst if required. I do not have a problem with combat abilities and the best solution for crafting is I like to summon my retainer to an unused market ward to work on my stuff.

[Drako]

Miqo'te and patience like mentioned, some people can't last more then a few min.. or a few days ;/

Hopefully they don't add something like ffxi's old peacock harm method of obtaining that thing... sat in that cave in pretty much 1 spot for a month staring at the screen for endless hours to get it O_o

endless hours watching + waking up at 5AM to the sound of the bot beeping to an Argus popped far away from you and being claimed by another bot, such nice memories.

[Burningthought]

Despite everyone's incessant bitching I'm actually having a lot of fun, reminds me of my old FFXI days. Plus I've seen this game come a long way since alpha testing and they've really pushed a lot of changes already.

Right now my only complaint is the lack of content and the chat text closing whenever a new window is opening(small gripe).

And if FFXI taught me anything, it's that it only gets better from here on out.

[CrstyCptSteveWitherspoon]

Plus I've seen this game come a long way since alpha testing and they've really pushed a lot of changes already.


Not trying to troll or anything, but what exactly has changed since alpha for the better? I've been playing since CB and here's what I've seen change.

Server stability - a given, and needed to be done. I don't give any credit for this as it's a basic for any game.
Skill points - I've seen different builds. One gave too much, one gave too few, one I feel hit the nail on the head and they should have kept it; I don't like the one we have now.
Hardware mouse - switch "ON"
Synthing - probably the largest change, SP are given after every synth, rapid was nerfed to where I don't use it anymore, abilities only pop once each synth now(used to pop multiple times in CB), added one extra attempt at each local leve
Combat - Changed crit hit animation and ws animations a bit.

That's about it off the top of my head. Not going to bother mentioning adding '/l' for chat and such, or lolparty search. I mean, ok maybe it was really hard to do these changes but... it just seems like not a lot had happened. Maybe I expected too much.

[Lucavi]

Despite everyone's incessant bitching I'm actually having a lot of fun, reminds me of my old FFXI days. Plus I've seen this game come a long way since alpha testing and they've really pushed a lot of changes already.

Right now my only complaint is the lack of content and the chat text closing whenever a new window is opening(small gripe).

And if FFXI taught me anything, it's that it only gets better from here on out.

When you're at the bottom of the ladder, or at the bottom of a deep pit, there's only one way to go.

[Achitophel]

And considering it's pretty fun playing casually already...

[miokomioko]

When you're at the bottom of the ladder, or at the bottom of a deep pit, there's only one way to go.

Can you take the bullshit back to the boohoowahwah threads?

[Burningthought]

Not trying to troll or anything, but what exactly has changed since alpha for the better? I've been playing since CB and here's what I've seen change.

Server stability - a given, and needed to be done. I don't give any credit for this as it's a basic for any game.
Skill points - I've seen different builds. One gave too much, one gave too few, one I feel hit the nail on the head and they should have kept it; I don't like the one we have now.
Hardware mouse - switch "ON"
Synthing - probably the largest change, SP are given after every synth, rapid was nerfed to where I don't use it anymore, abilities only pop once each synth now(used to pop multiple times in CB), added one extra attempt at each local leve
Combat - Changed crit hit animation and ws animations a bit.

That's about it off the top of my head. Not going to bother mentioning adding '/l' for chat and such, or lolparty search. I mean, ok maybe it was really hard to do these changes but... it just seems like not a lot had happened. Maybe I expected too much.

Alpha to now:

- UI Update (Going from weird crappy menu, to the new polished one.)
- Semi-rehauled battle system (Effect Gauge/Stamina bar)
- 2 New City States
- Less crashing (I haven't crashed once since retail started)
- The new towns around Eorzea have opened up, (Aleport, The bazaars, etc... granted they basically have nothing in them.)
- Behest were added in the beta
- Changed Guildleve reset time from 48hrs to 36hrs
- Crafting isn't fucking impossible (I had a hard time with the crafting stuff in the Alpha)
- The client is more optimized than the alpha and beta clients.
- NPC Dialog having it's own box, and not thrown into the chatlogs (I sent tons of feedback about that)
* I mean I can go on and on and on.

Honestly I feel like i'm watching a baby grow up, it's gone from 5-6 alpha test phases where only 100 or so people could actually stay logged in long enough to do anything, to being for the most part polished and stable. The only thing they need to do is keep pushing out bug fixes, and add more content. And as a added bonus, if they could throw the media a bone and let everyone know what's coming up the pipeline that'd be awesome, because right now I have no real motivation to get anything done, I just login an hour or so a day.

I guess I feel like people who came in during the open beta, and CE start are spoiled because they have no idea how far the game has come since alpha.

[CrstyCptSteveWitherspoon]

Ah ok. I see where you're coming from. Personally I don't consider half of that anything new. The cities and towns, behest, etc are content that I would expect to be done and ready for release. The UI, crafting changes, and bugs are more beta work imo, and I didn't see all that many. Anyway I've said my beef liek 30 times now (autosort, mailbox, AH/search function, player search, SP bugs, SP gain for combat classes, transportation that should have been in since launch ie choco/airship), and Ima just wait it out. If it's not done in a timely manner I'll cancel and maybe check out GW2. That looks pretty sweet.

[Burningthought]

Ah ok. I see where you're coming from. Personally I don't consider half of that anything new. The cities and towns, behest, etc are content that I would expect to be done and ready for release. The UI, crafting changes, and bugs are more beta work imo, and I didn't see all that many. Anyway I've said my beef liek 30 times now (autosort, mailbox, AH/search function, player search, SP bugs, SP gain for combat classes, transportation that should have been in since launch ie choco/airship), and Ima just wait it out. If it's not done in a timely manner I'll cancel and maybe check out GW2. That looks pretty sweet.

Offtopic: Guild Wars 2 from what I've seen really does look amazing. Being able to participate in all sorts of events without having to worry about level and all that stuff looks like it could be a blast.

Ontopic-ish: I'm really hoping for those things too, and even I'm a little disappointed that they didn't have a few basic things that FFXI already had, like message system and all that stuff.

[CrstyCptSteveWitherspoon]

Yea my bro came in and watched me play for a bit today. I was like "you see this? Yea that's an issue, that sucks, hope they fix this, feint is cool on this class though, armor looks sweet". Then he's all *busts out laptop* check out GW2. After watching the vid I was like "uhhhh that looks so much better than this atm" lol.

[Algoth]

Its a mix. Having a god-rig will certainly help you, but you'll still see people jumping here or there, and there's still a noticeable delay on pulling up menus and crafting and whatnot. I installed the game both on my mid-range rig, and my brother's God rig, so there's a massive difference where he can run everything maxed and I cannot, so many times i'll do my crafting over there and my fighting over here.

Upgrading certainly wouldn't hurt your gameplay, but expecting everything to be 100% smooth, especially anything concerning menus or crafting, isn't realistic at this point.

Thanks, this is what I wanted to know. I kinda suspected there was some server-side lag but haven't had a chance to test the game with a better rig. I'll probably upgrade anyway, the client-side lag really get unbearable sometimes, especially in crowded places and areas with weather effects.

[Lucavi]

No problem. Share the knowledge. Upgrading will never hurt you, even if it doesn't fix the problem entirely. SE's going to have to do the rest.

[Lazytowner]

I'll keep it up, just out of curiosity.

This release is hilariously bad (had to download a torrent since i had a bad install disc, update shat three bricks before i could play, and still run into slightly more than occasional disconnects) but wanting to know what completely irresponsible, convoluted, or greedy ruse (or any ruse at all) Square Enix is plotting for during and after the wait for PS3 release will keep me popping my head in occasionally and getting a decent rank on most of the Disciplines.

It's a $15 recurring fee with two characters -- I'm pretty sure I can afford that. I waste twice as much money every month paying Wendy's to clog my arteries, so fuck it.

EDIT: 4.0

[Elcura]

When you're at the bottom of the ladder, or at the bottom of a deep pit, there's only one way to go.

I delved deeper... into the cravass...

[Lucavi]

I delved deeper... into the cravass...

Well, to be fair, it is warm down there, and crabs in a pot, ect.

[Elcura]

Well, to be fair, it is warm down there, and crabs in a pot, ect.

Someone's never seen 30 Rock. Bah.

[Lucavi]

I don't watch TV. Sports and the web are it.

[Rocl]

I delved deeper... into the cravass...

A-
(crevasse)

[Elcura]

A-
(crevasse)

I knew something looked wrong.

[CasualPlayer]

endless hours watching + waking up at 5AM to the sound of the bot beeping to an Argus popped far away from you and being claimed by another bot, such nice memories.

This made me lol at work, and I work in a quiet place. Ahh memories

[TStupified]

I'm going to keep playing the game.

Reasons? Well there are many, mainly because I'm already as addicted to it as I was to FFXI when I started it, I play countless hours a day because I like it, not because I'm "forced to spend countless hours to useless timesinks" like some people are saying, no one is forced to play a game. The game seems to have nearly enough content to keep me interested a few months, I'm not one of those people who like to rush to max lvl (rank) to do endgame content. I enjoy crafting a lot, I enjoy gathering a lot, doing leves whenever they're reset and some grinding here and there too, I know, there isn't a lot more to do besides those and some quests (btw. the main questline is very interesting), but I don't even need more for now.

Of course, there will be time when I'll be wanting for more, but it should be clear that there will be more eventually, not even SE is so stupid that they'd leave the game to it's current state. Everyone who's not totally ignorant or overpessimistic does know that there will be more things to do in the game in a couple of months, just let it evolve. I just hate the "there isn't going to be anything EVER because those things weren't there in the launch" -attitude some people have. What's with nowadays people needing to have everything right away?

[Algoth]

I had to go back on my word and cancel my FFXIV subscription. :\
I thought I could deal with the UI lag, but when it started to take me an hour to even begin crafting (having to swap items with the retainer), and I looked at the pile of PS3 and Xbox 360 games that I'm still trying to find time to play, I decided that sticking around wasn't really worth it. I really do want to like the game, and I will check it out again either in December if the patch is good or at the PS3 launch if it isn't, but right now I'd rather play the 10~ games I actually have fun with and that don't require lying to myself in order to enjoy them.

Also, not that big of a deal to most people, but I found it funny that if you cancel your service, you won't be able to access the game anymore. Most MMOs let you play until your game time expires, Square-Enix just tells you to fuck off if you cancel your service. :D

[Elcura]

Also, not that big of a deal to most people, but I found it funny that if you cancel your service, you won't be able to access the game anymore. Most MMOs let you play until your game time expires, Square-Enix just tells you to fuck off if you cancel your service. :D

Well... to be fair, if you didn't want to play anymore, then surely it doesn't matter, right?

[Dooom]

Depends why you're canceling. Bored of the game? Doesn't matter. Being shipped off on a tour of duty and you're canceling now while you remember but still want to play? Matters.

[Algoth]

Well... to be fair, if you didn't want to play anymore, then surely it doesn't matter, right?

To me? No, I actually uninstalled the game after I unsubscribed. But technically I have paid for the 30 days that comes with the game so this seems, for a lack of better term, a bullshit move. Even more so, if this happens when you've paid a monthly fee; you pay for 30 days, cancel so you won't get accidentally billed for the next month (if you are taking a break for the game for example) and you can't login.

[Kaylia]

Well... to be fair, if you didn't want to play anymore, then surely it doesn't matter, right?

In WoW, I always cancel my account immediatly after registering to make sure im not paying for more than one month at time. It's easy to forget about canceling, and end up paying for another month when you're not playing.

[Lucavi]

Well... to be fair, if you didn't want to play anymore, then surely it doesn't matter, right?

That's not the point and you know it. I'd love to hear SE use that excuse in court.

[Blasta]

I play countless hours a day because I like it, not because I'm "forced to spend countless hours to useless timesinks", but because i don't have a job and nothing else to do.

Fixed, sorry it had to be done. We both know the truth.

[Elcura]

That's not the point and you know it. I'd love to hear SE use that excuse in court.

It was a question (hence the question mark) that was answered by Algoth (and echoed by Kaylia). Step off. People cancel accounts to not get billed more than necessary, that makes sense.

[Lucavi]

You made it sound like there's no problem with SE cutting off remaining playtime days if someone quits because they obviously weren't planning on using them up. If SE is actually doing that, its wrong. That was the point.

[Algoth]

I've played A LOT of MMOs, and I've gotta say that this is the first one for me that doesn't let you use your remaining gametime if you unsubscribe. :\
But like I said, I'm not pissed off about it or anything, it just took me by surprise, and I've no idea what S-E has to gain from doing this. If anything, letting people still play (until their gametime expires) after canceling their account might make them resubscribe, if they find something that makes them want to keep playing. This is obviously not the case with me, I actually like the game, like I already said in my previous post. And I will be coming back, but right now it still feels like playing a beta version, and I have other games to spend my time with.

[Elcura]

You made it sound like there's no problem with SE cutting off remaining playtime days if someone quits because they obviously weren't planning on using them up. If SE is actually doing that, its wrong. That was the point.

Looking back over what I said, placing the commas differently would have changed the tone drastically. Initially, what you said is exactly what I was thinking, but now I know differently. Simple, right?

(lol I did it again.)

[Katlan]

I'll play again when they fix stuff in December. As much as the promise of all the fixes makes me happy, I am just not happy enough w/the current state of the game to play right now while waiting for things to get better. I find stuff too frusterating