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    FL Assault "Better than One" changed 11/19?

    We just retried this one for a few other members. My hit rate which has been 90~95% on him in the past was down to ~20%. None of our melee could hit him at all. Either his evasion has become sky high or the general change to attributes to nerf 2H jobs a little also effects 1H jobs. This was as NIN. After 15m of plugging away he was still at around 95%. In the past, 15m was enough to kill him.

    The other NIN and the DRK also reported ultra low hit rates, but I don't have parse data for them -- I filter all buy my own data.

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    Re: FL Assault "Better than One" changed 11/19?

    Are you Bjond, Okuza?

    That sucks, dude. Seems like the game is seriously bugged.

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    Re: FL Assault "Better than One" changed 11/19?

    Just go in your moghouse and stay there until the apocalypse end. Going outside isn't safe atm.

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    Re: FL Assault "Better than One" changed 11/19?

    Did this today post patch and evasion was still an issue. Had PLD, MNK, RNG, BLM, WHM and BRD.

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    Re: FL Assault "Better than One" changed 11/19?

    Group of mine attempted this today, 11/20. Absolutely insane evasion. Something is seriously wrong. lol

    note: This was using a brd who switched to double madrigal when he saw how much we were missing. (with sushi)
    All properly geared people in pt... and accuracy remained at about 25%. (yes, 25%.. ugh)

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    Re: FL Assault "Better than One" changed 11/19?

    Semi-off topic but we tried Susanoo Shuffle twice tonight and got fucked both times. Lost at 25% the first time and 70% or so the second time. I would say that maybe the tier10 assaults have been adjusted but we did Bloody Rondo tonight also and that one went pretty smoothly. Here's a few awesome screenshots:

    http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/1244/serp1ik0.jpg

    http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/4357/serp2tp9.jpg

    http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/7020/serp3yn5.jpg

    http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/9052/tremblecd5.jpg

    I dunno, there's a few things we could have done better but the stuff I read about this made it sound ridiculously easy, to the extent that folks were actually considering it doable with 3 people. We had NIN THF RDM BRD BLM WHM. Either it changed or we were just sucking that hard, but I'd be pretty freakin impressed if anyone managed to trio it in its current state.

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    Re: FL Assault "Better than One" changed 11/19?

    Serpentine Tail is supposed to hit like a truck, usually Trembling is blinkable and unless he's spamming TP moves 500-550 damage isn't all that bad.

    Just turn as soon as you see him spin around and you shouldn't get flailed. Besides, it's blinkable if I recall correctly.

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    Re: FL Assault "Better than One" changed 11/19?

    My grp also did Susano Shuffle and Bloody Rondo and didnt notice anything out of ordinary. Rondo was stragihtforward win with PLD, NIN, RNG, BLM, WHM, BRD with kiting in about 20min and Shuffle we had the BLM change to RDM and the PLD to WAR and won in about 15.

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    Re: FL Assault "Better than One" changed 11/19?

    I also did Bloody Rondo yesterday and noticed nothing that isn't explainable. First time we lost at <10% to go because of Doom->Doppelganger->Bat with Doom killing one of the NINs, doppelganger duping the PLD and afterwards turning him into a bat (who promptly had a d/c icon ) all in about 10-15 seconds time.

    Second time with less melee on it we got him down comfortably. So much fun killing our PLD (doppelganger) all the time

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    Re: FL Assault "Better than One" changed 11/19?

    Rondo appears unchanged. Did Susanoo Shuffle, won first attempt today 11/20. As long as you're not giving it TP while in tail mode, it won't 'flail' you. Was an easy win.

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    Re: FL Assault "Better than One" changed 11/19?

    Cool, guess we were just failing. We realized the "don't give TP during tail mode" thing during the second run but by then it was too late and I'm not sure how well that would even work given that it looks like it's doing TP autoregen. The only two accounts of this fight on the old wiki are "We beat this easily with ..." and "another group defeated it easily..." so we didn't take it seriously enough and didn't start turning in tail mode until it was too late. And yeah, Trembling is blinkable but it can take more than one shadow and the there was no time to cast even Ni between the weird back to back ones (you can see me get owned as I try to cast Ni right after the first Trembling).

    Time to try it again

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    Re: FL Assault "Better than One" changed 11/19?

    Quote Originally Posted by suji
    Semi-off topic but we tried Susanoo Shuffle twice tonight and got fucked both times. Lost at 25% the first time and 70% or so the second time. I would say that maybe the tier10 assaults have been adjusted but we did Bloody Rondo tonight also and that one went pretty smoothly. Here's a few awesome screenshots:

    http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/1244/serp1ik0.jpg

    http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/4357/serp2tp9.jpg

    http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/7020/serp3yn5.jpg

    http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/9052/tremblecd5.jpg

    I dunno, there's a few things we could have done better but the stuff I read about this made it sound ridiculously easy, to the extent that folks were actually considering it doable with 3 people. We had NIN THF RDM BRD BLM WHM. Either it changed or we were just sucking that hard, but I'd be pretty freakin impressed if anyone managed to trio it in its current state.
    that's just a failed run. turn when it thrashes or eat tail.

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    Re: FL Assault "Better than One" changed 11/19?

    Dont remember orochi to auto tp that fast tho. We just turned and ate one ws maybe during the whole trashing thing.

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    Re: FL Assault "Better than One" changed 11/19?

    Any news on a ninja fix? Scheduled to do Goldemar and Cerb tonight, Cerb will be the only thing keeping us from Captain if they havent fixed it.

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    Re: FL Assault "Better than One" changed 11/19?

    Just did this again 5 mins ago. Still has like 80 percent evasion. Had full acc gear on and used sushi. Its the last assault we needed too. FAIL SE FAILLLLL

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    Re: FL Assault "Better than One" changed 11/19?

    Argh. I was hoping they got it in the patch today adjusting 'monster abilities.'


    /emo. Well, at least we can do Goldemar.

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    Re: FL Assault "Better than One" changed 11/19?

    mob still has messed up eva, tried doing it w/ 2-3 blms got it down to 17% in the better run, welp nothing to do but wait i guess..

    bastard is keaping our static from captain /cry

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    Re: FL Assault "Better than One" changed 11/19?

    I tried Bloody Rondo today, Dracula was doing 200dmg to our pld, is this normal? Also his AoE was doing 400dmg + to everyone. Killed us in less than 5 mins, idk if something is wrong with it or we just sucked lol.

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    Re: FL Assault "Better than One" changed 11/19?

    That's normal for Rondo. He's the weakest of the FL NMs. All the others hit for 300+. Typically, folks kite him because of his insane charm rate and other AEs. It is possible to lock him up and zerg him down, but kite works nearly every time. Zerg works only if you get lucky or are willing to burn CS+stun.

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    Re: FL Assault "Better than One" changed 11/19?

    We always straight-tank dracula, never use CS stun, and we rarely fail. Hard to tell if he's actually gotten more difficult. He's very random, depending on his weaponskill choices.

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