How to identify a homophobe

[BerenTebogo]

I can give you shit about being an out of touch misanthropic narcissist if you like.

It'd be appreciated. I need something to balance out the high I get as I look in the mirror.

[BerenTebogo]

Actually I'm going to stop before this thread turns into another me + cadsuane + kuya having a conversation nobody else on the forum gets / cares about.

I love you guys in the gayest possible way.

[archibaldcrane]

[edit] unless you are trying to say that in your case if you were to have come out of the closet you still wouldn't have been bullied. Then you'd be supporting kuya's point and not mine.

there were "out" gay guys in my high school that weren't bullied.

Is my anecdotal example enough to shut you up?

[Tsuko_Asura]

@Cad:

Popular among whom? The only person I ever really see regularly slobbin' on his knobbin' is Ricky, and we all know that's just because he's sexually deprived and doesn't know any better.

[Ksandra]

there were "out" gay guys in my high school that weren't bullied.

Is my anecdotal example enough to shut you up?

How can you even know that?


And that doesn't really change the idea that nerds and gays are bullied for the exact same reason, I was just commenting that sath's post doesn't support kuya and in fact goes against what kuya's defense of "being male".

[BerenTebogo]

actually that's my point though....

[edit] unless you are trying to say that in your case if you were to have come out of the closet you still wouldn't have been bullied. Then you'd be supporting kuya's point and not mine.

It's a bit in-between. I consider myself a geek / nerd, but nobody else around me (who know me outside of the internet anyway) consider me one, no matter what I do.

It's a tip of the hat to kuya's point that I don't fit in the accepted persona of what people consider a geek because I don't complete the package.

[Ksandra]

It's a bit in-between. I consider myself a geek / nerd, but nobody else around me (who know me outside of the internet anyway) consider me one, no matter what I do.

It's a tip of the hat to kuya's point that I don't fit in the accepted persona of what people consider a geek because I don't complete the package.

But see (iono if you bothered to read the whole convo) but I mentioned exactly that.

here to ask, do you think gays and nerds are bullied for the exact same reason? This is what Kuya thinks, and I disagree for exactly what you said. Nerds don't necessarily fall away from that idea of a "man" (muscles, sports, etc.) nor do gays (ie not all are "flammers").

But in your situation do you think if you were "gay" instead of a "nerd" that people would have treated you in the same way, and no one would have attacked you for it?

[Cadsuane]

Actually I'm going to stop before this thread turns into another me + cadsuane + kuya having a conversation nobody else on the forum gets / cares about.

I love you guys in the gayest possible way.

That and I'd kinda like to remain friends.

@Cad:

Popular among whom? The only person I ever really see regularly slobbin' on his knobbin' is Ricky, and we all know that's just because he's sexually deprived and doesn't know any better.

Well like, even Abandon commuted from actually hating him to pretending to for the sake of it being a funny schtick.

[Eratosthenes]

Bullies target people who are different. It doesn't really matter what the difference is; bullies are going to target it.

[Tsuko_Asura]

I don't think having earned the approval of either of the two is grounds for a declaration of forum-wide admiration. If it wasn't for his avatar, I wouldn't know who the fuck Abandon was, and as I previously touched on, Ricky is too anxious for someone to jam it in his pooper to be able to differentiate between desirable and not-even-if-I-were-ruffied.

[BerenTebogo]

But see (iono if you bothered to read the whole convo) but I mentioned exactly that.

here to ask, do you think gays and nerds are bullied for the exact same reason? This is what Kuya thinks, and I disagree for exactly what you said. Nerds don't necessarily fall away from that idea of a "man" (muscles, sports, etc.) nor do gays (ie not all are "flammers").

But in your situation do you think if you were "gay" instead of a "nerd" that people would have treated you in the same way, and no one would have attacked you for it?

I go tanning, use moisturizer, I cut and style hair, and know more about make-up than most of the females who post on these boards. I shop almost exclusively at Express and Guess, and I won't leave the apartment, even for an 8am class, without looking nice. If I didn't wear a wedding band every person I talked to would assume I was gay (as opposed to the ~30% who are shocked to find out I'm not gay 1-2 weeks after getting to know me).

The majority of my adult life I've just been comfortable with the fact that because I don't think it's A-OK to walk around in public in sweatpants and the shirt I got drunk in last night I must take it in the ass. I've never really had a problem with it, but I will say - when I was younger - I did get in a few fights that started with something to the effect of "watch where you're standing, fag!" and I've never gotten in a fight that started "watch where you're playing magic the gathering, nerd!" so, who really knows.

It all boils down to what excuse someone wants to use to play "tough guy". I'd say it depends heavily on where you are from / community you live in, etc, but I'm nowhere near as qualified to speak to it as some of the honestly gay and nerdy guys here.

[SephYuyX]

Tsuko is a casual.

[Cadsuane]

I don't think having earned the approval of either of the two is grounds for a declaration of forum-wide admiration. If it wasn't for his avatar, I wouldn't know who the fuck Abandon was, and as I previously touched on, Ricky is too anxious for someone to jam it in his pooper to be able to differentiate between desirable and not-even-if-I-were-ruffied.

lol. Well I didn't mean to say he was that kind of popular, cause you're right obviously, just that he's more of a mascot than a pariah. But I dunno man you seem to have your hand on the pulse more than I do.

[Tsuko_Asura]

Better a casual than a nerd.

[BerenTebogo]

lol. Well I didn't mean to say he was that kind of popular, cause you're right obviously, just that he's more of a mascot than a pariah. But I dunno man you seem to have your hand on the pulse more than I do.

If Seph is our mascot then I want to play for a different team.

[chiyio]

I go tanning, use moisturizer, I cut and style hair, and know more about make-up than most of the females who post on these boards. I shop almost exclusively at Express and Guess, and I won't leave the apartment, even for an 8am class, without looking nice. If I didn't wear a wedding band every person I talked to would assume I was gay (as opposed to the ~30% who are shocked to find out I'm not gay 1-2 weeks after getting to know me).

The majority of my adult life I've just been comfortable with the fact that because I don't think it's A-OK to walk around in public in sweatpants and the shirt I got drunk in last night I must take it in the ass. I've never really had a problem with it, but I will say - when I was younger - I did get in a few fights that started with something to the effect of "watch where you're standing, fag!" and I've never gotten in a fight that started "watch where you're playing magic the gathering, nerd!" so, who really knows.

It all boils down to what excuse someone wants to use to play "tough guy". I'd say it depends heavily on where you are from / community you live in, etc, but I'm nowhere near as qualified to speak to it as some of the honestly gay and nerdy guys here.

replace Express and Guess with j.crew and banana and this is my life, heh.

[archibaldcrane]

How can you even know that?

Because I was friends with a couple of them?

Show Choir motherfuckers.

[Tsuko_Asura]

If Seph is our mascot then I want to play for a different team.

[Ksandra]

. I've never really had a problem with it, but I will say - when I was younger - I did get in a few fights that started with something to the effect of "watch where you're standing, fag!" and I've never gotten in a fight that started "watch where you're playing magic the gathering, nerd!" so, who really knows.

As you said you are just a specific case, and therefore can't be proof of the whole, but at least you might understand why I think the way I do then considering it basically happened to you. (even though you aren't actually gay)

I still think that there is something (whether social/religious/fear/Idon'tknow), that makes people more inclined to attack someone who is gay vs. someone who is a nerd. I agree there's that fundamental basis about "being different" which can come to anything not just nerds (ie. obesity), but I do think there's more it it than just that when it comes to gays that bullies are so against.

[Tsuko_Asura]

replace Express and Guess with j.crew and banana and this is my life, heh.

You're probably not as attractive as Sath, though :s