Guild Mark Data Collection

[Cjskater]

Leve Name                Craft   Rank  City            PR     Gil      Marks   
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Just for Kecks           WVR     20    Ul'Dah          273    11760    0
A Spot in the Shade      WVR     25    Ul'Dah          209    13400    0
Training and Tailoring   WVR     30    Limsa Lominsa   202    11880    0
Clearing Emerald Moss    WVR     25    Gridania        186    13100    0
Clearing Bentbranch      WVR     25    Gridania        202    12000    0

The Mad Tanner           TAN     20    Limsa Lominsa   113    5440     0
Hungry Like the Wolves   TAN     30    Gridania        35     11664    0
Back in the Harness      TAN     30    Gridania        24     8332     0

[bruiser]

Leve Name                Craft   Rank  City            PR     Gil      Marks   
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Just for Kecks           WVR     20    Ul'Dah          273    11760    0
A Spot in the Shade      WVR     25    Ul'Dah          209    13400    0
Training and Tailoring   WVR     30    Limsa Lominsa   202    11880    0
Clearing Emerald Moss    WVR     25    Gridania        186    13100    0
Clearing Bentbranch      WVR     25    Gridania        202    12000    0

The Mad Tanner           TAN     20    Limsa Lominsa   113    5440     0
Hungry Like the Wolves   TAN     30    Gridania        35     11664    0
Back in the Harness      TAN     30    Gridania        24     8332     0

Wow... 273. BTW anyone know what the different item tiers are? I know at 100 you get an additional reward item. What about 200? 300? 400? etc? I'm not tracking this, but mostly just curious.

[bruiser]

Important:

If you all don't mind, from now on please post data in the following format:

LeveName,Rank,YourName,PerformanceRating,BonusItems,GilReward,MarksReward

Bold above represents an optional field. BonusItems is either blank, 0, 1, or 2. Blank means you forgot, 0 means you completed exactly the number of items required to pass the leve. 1 is 1 bonus item. 2 is 2 bonus items.
Italics represents that exactly one item should be set, and the other should be blank. Example:

Showing Some Leg,25,Bruiser,63,1,10269,
Wear and Tear,20,Bruiser,20,,,609


It will probably take some getting used to this format but it makes it far, far easier for me to enter the data. Note there is no trade name (WVR, ARM, etc) and no city name. I'm not gonna reject anything that doesn't fit this format, but if you don't mind, it would make my life easier

[Cjskater]

Wow... 273. BTW anyone know what the different item tiers are? I know at 100 you get an additional reward item. What about 200? 300? 400? etc? I'm not tracking this, but mostly just curious.

At 200 you get more of the item you got at 100, at least for me it's like that. 10 Canvas Fent @100; 20 Canvas Fent @200.

[Murky]

Bruiser - I'm not certain what you mean by Bonus Items. In my experience the items you get are determined by the number of tries you get on the leve (generally more tries the higher the leve level is), and the number of items you get is based on each 100 appraisal bracket. Sometimes these numbers aren't really in even 10-item fent sets like tailoring, e.g. alchemy leves which give bonus quicksilver hands it out in sets of 5.

Starveling Soldiers,20,Ceiling Cat,229,,11680,
Just For Kecks,30,Ceiling Cat,80,,,712
Busier than the Blades,20,Ceiling Cat,172,,4000,
Fire on the Water,20,Ceiling Cat,218,,,952
Quelling Bloody Rumors,20,Ceiling Cat,144,,10960,
Clearing Emerald Moss,20,Ceiling Cat,40,,9240,
A Spot in the Shade,35,Ceiling Cat,28,,11289,
Strapped for Straps,20,Ceiling Cat,33,,7341

[bruiser]

Bruiser - I'm not certain what you mean by Bonus Items. In my experience the items you get are determined by the number of tries you get on the leve (generally more tries the higher the leve level is), and the number of items you get is based on each 100 appraisal bracket. Sometimes these numbers aren't really in even 10-item fent sets like tailoring, e.g. alchemy leves which give bonus quicksilver hands it out in sets of 5.

I mean that normally the item reward you get is stated in your journal entry. But with a performance rating of >=100, you get an additional item that isn't even listed. With a performance rating of >= 200, you get more of that item. So I'm just wondering what happens at 300, 400, etc. Just continue to get more of the additional item, or do you get new items at certain points?

[Murky]

I mean that normally the item reward you get is stated in your journal entry. But with a performance rating of >=100, you get an additional item that isn't even listed. With a performance rating of >= 200, you get more of that item. So I'm just wondering what happens at 300, 400, etc. Just continue to get more of the additional item, or do you get new items at certain points?

Also, from what I've seen, there are sometimes variants of the same name quest. Like Mad Tanner(20) in Limsa has two versions - one for Dodoskin Field Belts where they give you 4 sets, one for Survival Belts where they give you 5 sets, so IDing guildleves merely by name probably won't work too well for distinguishing quests apart from each other.

Anyway, like I said, many lv20 quests have 4-set and 5-set variants. Scoring 100+ appraisal on the 4-set leves will get you cotton fents in sets of 10. Scoring 100+ appraisal on the 5-set leves will get you canvas fents in sets of 10. I've gotten 30 canvas/cotton fents before on lucky 300 appraisals of these. I haven't really scored very well on 6/7-item leves, so I can't say anything about those, but it seems to hold that you only get one type of extra item per leve.

[Drako]

im not sure the PR is the only variable for the number of marks you receive, last night i got 1083 marks for a rank30 GLD leve (im rank25) with something like 20 or 30 PR.. sorry i didnt recorded properly.

i think its has more to do with the dificulty of the leve for your actual rank (for base value + RNG).

would be nice if everyone put their class rank too, that might be a missing variable.

[Cjskater]

Leve Name                Craft   Rank  City            PR     Gil      Marks   
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Holes in Their Defense   WVR     30    Ul'Dah          147    16200    0
Pants Make the Man       WVR     30    Ul'Dah          158    15960    0
Exposed to the Elements  WVR     35    Ul'Dah          124    20160    0
Training and Tailoring   WVR     30    Limsa Lominsa   171    0        1056
Clearing Emerald Moss    WVR     25    Gridania        134    14700    0
Clearing Nine Ivies      WVR     25    Gridania        123    13300    0

The Mad Tanner           TAN     20    Limsa Lominsa   59     8204     0
Back in the Harness      TAN     20    Gridania        72     0        364

[bruiser]

im not sure the PR is the only variable for the number of marks you receive, last night i got 1083 marks for a rank30 GLD leve (im rank25) with something like 20 or 30 PR.. sorry i didnt recorded properly.

i think its has more to do with the dificulty of the leve for your actual rank (for base value + RNG).

I just assumed that this was explained there being a min and max reward that was a function of performance rating. And you're more likely to hit the middle of that range rather than the edges. For example, suppose that for a performance rating of 50, min=500 marks, max=1200 marks. Then imagine a normal curve where the left was 500, right was 1200, and you have a bell curve in between, with the peak of that bell curve being 850.

That's how I was assuming it worked.

Showing Some Leg,25,Bruiser,78,,1326
Hungry Like the Wolves,30,Bruiser,37,7069,
Harnessing Help,30,Bruiser,27,11201,
Cord and Orders,20,Bruiser,92,,1128

[bruiser]

Leve,Rank,Player,Appraisal,BonusItems,Gil,Marks

The Mad Tanner,30,Bruiser,26,1,11113,
Shoeing the Shore,20,Bruiser,78,1,4485,
Training and Trading,25,Bruiser,70,2,,969
Making Headway,25,Bruiser,39,2,7895,
Cord and Orders,20,Bruiser,58,0,5688,
Back in the Harness,20,Bruiser,145,2,7040,

[Cjskater]

Leve Name                Craft   Rank  City            PR     Gil      Marks  
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Hanging by a Thread      WVR     40    Ul'Dah          51     8697     0
Pants Make the Man       WVR     30    Ul'Dah          152    12720    0
Exposed to the Elements  WVR     25    Ul'Dah          218    0        1220
Training and Tailoring   WVR     30    Limsa Lominsa   170    9360     0
Wear and Tear            WVR     20    Limsa Lominsa   302    4880     0

Camp Drybone Cares       TAN     20    Ul'Dah          44     8409     0
The Mad Tanner           TAN     20    Limsa Lominsa   69     6895     0
Back in the Harness      TAN     30    Gridania        28     6912     0

[bruiser]

Cj, do you happen to recall what your item reward was on that Wear and Tear leve with 302 appraisal? I'm just curious if there were 3 unique items, or 2 unique items with additional quantities of one of the two.

[bruiser]

Uploaded new images to the front page. Also added a new graph, showing off the mark percentage as a function of level rank. I think this graph is pretty conclusive evidence that leve rank does not affect mark probability.

[Cjskater]

Cj, do you happen to recall what your item reward was on that Wear and Tear leve with 302 appraisal? I'm just curious if there were 3 unique items, or 2 unique items with additional quantities of one of the two.

Your reward is based on a performance rating of 302.
You obtain 3 cotton bolls.
You obtain 30 strips of cotton fent.
You obtain 10 ice shards.
You obtain 4880 gil.

Just more fent.

[bruiser]

Ahh ok. Least that quells my curiosity about that :D

[goodr]

Here's a pile of catching up on local leves:
A Feast Fit for an Admiral, 25, Goodr, 18, 2, 4307,
A Feast Fit for an Admiral, 10, Goodr, 179, 2, 4600,
Tall Cool One, 5, Goodr, 194, 2, 2280,
Just Desserts, 25, Goodr, 23, 2, 3936,
Baderon's New Breakfast, 1, Goodr, 213, 2, 272,
Finger Foods, 20, Goodr, 21, 2, 3049,
A Mother's Cookies, 1, Goodr, 229, 2, 336, 0; 4 fire crystals
Irrational Behavior, 15, Goodr, 62, 2, 4471, 0; 3 water crystals
A Slave to Fashion, 20, Goodr, , 1,
Battle of the Breads, 1, Goodr, 153, 2, 272, 0; 50 fire shards
A Mother's Cookies, 1, Goodr, 240, 2, 396, 0; 50 wind shards
Momodi's Breakfast Bread, 1, Goodr, 214, 2, 292, 0; 50 fire shards
A Bluefog Induction, 20, Goodr, 17, 0, 3135, 0; 2 wind crystals
Irrational Behavior, 15, Goodr, 57, 2, 4662, 0; 39 ice shards
Momodi's Breakfast Bread, 1, Goodr, 100, 2, 456, 0; 4 wind crystals
Tender Victuals, 1, Goodr, 228, 2, 460, 0; 4 ice crystals

I started noting the crystal rewards as they were remarkably substantial. But that was just for me. I included them in case they were useful for anyone else.

[Cjskater]

Some backlog, sorted in case it matters...
Pre-patch:

Leve Name                Craft   Rank  City            PR     Gil      Marks  
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Hanging by a Thread      WVR     40    Ul'Dah          26     13104    0
Pants Make the Man       WVR     30    Ul'Dah          187    12360    0
The Mad Hatter           WVR     25    Limsa Lominsa   210    8500     0
Quelling Bloody Rumors   WVR     30    Gridania        82     10046    0

World-weary Soles        TAN     20    Ul'Dah          71     6566     0
The Mad Tanner           TAN     20    Limsa Lominsa   59     5533     0
Work of Friction         TAN     25    Gridania        35     7155     0
Under Foot               TAN     30    Limsa Lominsa   18     5026     0

Post-patch:

Leve Name                Craft   Rank  City            PR     Gil      Marks  
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Exposed to the Elements  WVR     35    Ul'Dah          36     8323     0

Showing Some Leg         TAN     25    Ul'Dah          25     5312     0
Work of Friction         TAN     25    Gridania        19     5890     0
Cord and Orders          TAN     30    Gridania        26     4888     0
Hungry Like the Wolves   TAN     30    Gridania        19     5355     0
The Mad Tanner           TAN     20    Limsa Lominsa   20     0        864

Post-patch Round 2:

Leve Name                Craft   Rank  City            PR     Gil      Marks  
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Holes in Their Defense   WVR     40    Ul'Dah          30     9038     0
Hanging by a Thread      WVR     40    Ul'Dah          32     6058     0
Clearing Bentbranch      WVR     35    Gridania        36     9710     0

Cord and Orders          TAN     20    Gridania        17     3463     0
The Mad Tanner           TAN     30    Limsa Lominsa   34     6164     0
Harnessing Help          TAN     30    Gridania        15     4485     0
I Would Walk 500 Malms   TAN     20    Ul'Dah          23     0        634

Also, thanks to the patch:
You use Bold Synthesis.
Progress increases by 9%.
Durability decreases by 9.
Quality increases by 3.

Fuck getting high PR.

[bruiser]

I'm trying to decide what to do with all this data now. I'm not sure if I should throw away everything collected pre-patch, but it seems like there's a decent chance that that data is now invalid.

[tymora]

I seem to be getting marks around 1 in 4 now - Rate has definitely changed. I think the marks you get (if you get it) has been increased as well.