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  1. #2701
    Chram
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    Deejay Zombie
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    Excalibur

    Kinda want to get back into this game, any rules for the server?
    I think the only rules were against general douchebaggery, don't destroy people's shit, don't take anything from chests unless there is a sign next to it that specifically says its fair game for anyone. That's what I've been playing by anyways and haven't had an issue.

  2. #2702
    Sea Torques
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    Helmir Rainteau
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    Ultros
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    Phoenix

    Also some people don't like you building stuff on their doorstep, although it isn't a rule it would probably piss someone off.

  3. #2703
    Relic Weapons
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    Quetzalcoatl

    Quote Originally Posted by Helm View Post
    Also some people don't like you building stuff on their doorstep, although it isn't a rule it would probably piss someone off.
    Yeah. Use the map and find yourself a nice open spot. There's plenty out there!

  4. #2704
    Black Mage
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    Chrian Kywind
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    Gilgamesh
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    Diabolos

    yea hmm with the low visibility in the world it would be counter productive to spawn all the buildsing from mine1 2,3
    this world is mine4 to me

  5. #2705
    Chram
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    Wonder what setting ragns has the view distance as. If it's less than 10, he might want to set it to the default at least, since any lower and mob spawns get bugged.

  6. #2706
    Chram
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    Quote Originally Posted by Psion View Post
    Wonder what setting ragns has the view distance as. If it's less than 10, he might want to set it to the default at least, since any lower and mob spawns get bugged.
    didn't realize that was a server setting, it did seem kind of low despite me setting mine to max. I have noticed that i can see chunk edges frequently, kinda takes away from the seamless world experience when you can't see the horizon and instead just looks like the edge of the world. probably a reason its set that way, server overhead what have you, would be nice to see it brought up though.

  7. #2707
    Black Mage
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    Chrian Kywind
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    Gilgamesh
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    Diabolos

    its low because at it's current state minecraft for some reason takes up whole gigs of ram instead of tf2 which takes like nothing

  8. #2708
    Chram
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    True, there's a bug in multiplayer where if a mob wanders into an chunk too far from the player for it to load, it gets stuck in memory, clogging up the mob limit permanantly till you go and hunt it down. From what i've seen, even if you reload the mob later it won't despawn, even if you move far away enough, even if you move to like 100 blocks away and wait for 2 hours. I THINK if you have it set to default 10, then the issue only occurs very rarely, if at all, whereas if you set it lower like say 5, then if the mob wanders off to 6-10 distance or further it becomes bugged.

    So I'm not sure, but it might be better to set it to 10, so that it either hogs less memory in the long run, or at least avoids the issue of hostiles not spawning because the world cap has been reached.

    Also I want my old station and a 20 high layer of sand over the outline of my new one GC! :D also a few chests of netherwarts, and another each of glowstone, netherrack, blaze rods, ghast tears, and soulsand!

  9. #2709
    Black Mage
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    Chrian Kywind
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    lol chunks not loaded in memory aren't loaded in memory, and whats this world cap your talking about I see nothing about it on the interwebs so I need proof for that.

  10. #2710
    Chram
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    There's some sort of bukkit tool that mentioned being able to lower the max amount of hostiles that can spawn on a server, and they gave the example of changing the default from 3000 hostiles worldwide (I presume the 200 hostiles cap in an area around each player still applies as well) to 2000 for example. That's the world cap, essentially theres a maximum amount of hostiles that can be up at once, even if there's like 1000 players online on a server somehow there could still only be 3000 hostiles up at once. The problem is when a mob, either hostile or passive, spawns and then moves further away, into an unloaded chunk. Normally, they would despawn if they moved too far away from the player, but if your world is shorter than the default distance, then they basically move into an unloaded chunk BEFORE they reach the 128 block distance that force despawns them. Then they get stuck in that unloaded chunk and their body gets added to the global mob limit count. It's a bug in multiplayer, which is why you want to make sure not to lower the distance too far, or else the glitch has a high chance of occuring and you get like thousands of creepers/skellys/skreeders hogging the hostile cap despite not being in loaded chunks, which means nothing new spawns in new chunks, until you go and murder some of the old ones.

  11. #2711
    Tarutaru Subligar Inspector
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    So, putting my random single player survival building on hold and coming to BG server. Anyone got any tips?

    Oooh...free sword and junk for new guys, I like this.

  12. #2712
    Black Mage
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    Chrian Kywind
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    use my old farm near spawn for food

  13. #2713
    Tarutaru Subligar Inspector
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    Least I assume it's free....otherwise is a confusing sign...

  14. #2714
    Black Mage
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    Chrian Kywind
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    use the map and just reseed and wait

  15. #2715
    Tarutaru Subligar Inspector
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    Waiting for daytime, then will scrounge some food and set off to find me a base.

  16. #2716
    Chram
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    there is a bunch of us west of the spawn, spread out surrounding some npc villages, if you need any supplies im at 32, 1986

    lots of farming supplies in chests near the garden outside my house. don't mind if you take whats in my garden as long as you replant, help yourself to seeds in the chests as long as you dont take them all.

    http://mine.bluegartr.com/map/#/38/6.../mcmapLighting

    link shows my setup

  17. #2717
    Tarutaru Subligar Inspector
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    Set up around -250, 2200. Didn't get much more than a hole dug, but then fell down and had to run the whole damn way back from the spawn because I didn't bother with bed, lol.

  18. #2718
    Chram
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    nice, well except for death and runback.. but that means you're pretty close, just north of the river that's due north of me, on the map thats a chunk that has yet to be explored, map should update soon, i think thats why the server goes down every night.

  19. #2719
    Pay No Attention to the Man Behind the Curtain
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    Ragns Meuhie
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    BTW BG donations are up again. Reminding people that we can afford the Minecraft server because of the surplus we make on the raffle.

  20. #2720
    Relic Weapons
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    Helm, you need to chill out on your ethug rampage. Can't win fights without zombe
    Love you though.

    also, psions xp grinder didn't work right after helm did something to it.
    Also, expect a crater from helm's zombe'ing with creepers about.

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