Official BG Minecraft Server Thread

**Psion** · 2012-01-19 07:11

Oh yeah, huh? i never got my chest with several of each of the 11 records :D

That's on top of the 5 large chests of ice :3

**Pyro** · 2012-01-19 07:13

At this point, with the requests for chests full of materials and monster spawners, might as well make this a creative server.

**ChooChooTrain** · 2012-01-19 10:18

You know what, i don't want ice. Its kind of leaving a sour taste in my mouth with how much everyone is asking for.

**Viena** · 2012-01-19 10:20

Originally Posted by Pyro

At this point, with the requests for chests full of materials and monster spawners, might as well make this a creative server.

I had a short discussion about this the other day.

Some people find creative boring, others dislike survival. Personally, I find the whole material gathering aspect boring to tears and the mobs little else than an annoyance, which the introduction of the hunger system only worsened. I like coming up with a concept, designing, improving it and polishing the result, a process which the survival aspects only hinder. Basically, the fun I get from Minecraft would be the same kind of fun one could get from playing with Lego and having an unbounded resource of blocks.

Having said that, there are certainly issues with creative mode on a multi-player server, the most obvious one being the potential for griefing that flying and an infinite source of TNT bring. There's also the fact that some people's builds might have a tendency to grow "out of control", leading to a high amount of large, obnoxious and often either bland or overdone structures being built all over the place, ruining the look of some people's settlements and the overall feel of the server. Some creative Minecraft servers might be a good example of this, but one needs to look no further than remembering how mine0/1 developed, with huge obsidian/lava/gold/diamond castles all over spawn and a messy network of serpenting "skybridges" covering the skies over everyone's builds.

The thing is, there's the possibility of setting creative mode on a per player basis rather than changing the mode for the entire server. There's apparently some demand for creative given that otherwise people wouldn't be asking for chests of stuff even now that the lack of Nether is no longer an excuse for some materials.

In my opinion, allowing a few players to play on creative could be considered. As long as they built in a responsible manner it shouldn't have much of an impact on the ones that prefer playing in survival. The problem is how one could guarantee said responsibility, as if anyone who just asked to play on creative were granted such a thing, the griefing/messy building issues could easily show up. Not sure what everyone's thoughts on this are.

If ragns were to consider this, my only suggestion would be that such a thing is granted only to familiar players who requested it as long as other people have been comfortable with their behavior and building style until now.

Llimona

Originally Posted by ChooChooTrain

You know what, i don't want ice. Its kind of leaving a sour taste in my mouth with how much everyone is asking for.

That's kind of what I feel. I really dislike asking for stuff, but some things are just unfeasible without doing so. I would have taken me several months of just farming wool to get the roughly 6k wool that my blimp required. Rather than asking ragns, I placed a chest where some people could donate, but that's still asking in some way or another. I would have preferred not having to ask anything at all, but the alternative would have been scrapping the project. :/

**Hank** · 2012-01-19 10:46

Is it possible to give infinite blocks of a certain type only?

**djzombie** · 2012-01-19 14:08

I can understand why some people are getting frustrated at the amount of materials requested. I have built everything I have so far by gathering materials.

However I'm at a point now where I have everything I need built, and the only stuff left to build is for the benefit of the server. IE giant friggen bridges. Just don't wanna spend huge amounts of time farming shit for that.

**Chrian** · 2012-01-19 14:31

Ok so I should probably set better ground rules for chest requests mind you I really do not like to spawn 400 chests of cobblestones.
When I do map updates it's really because people wanted their buildings back.
Those people mind you had already worked their keyboard off building and gathering so asking for impossible items to add that final touch is all right.
Also when making railways ask the owners of the land to go through it.
Industrialization is good and so are way stations for the walking traveler.
Asking for ice is ok as to some it's a final touch.
mine and build for your base as the work put in makes the finished product that much sweeter.
And if in the final stages of your design you want flying flags of Ice ok I'll look into it.

This map update will me just spawning the old buildings from mine1 and some from mine2 and mine3 in a remote location for people to peruse and view.

**Kuishen** · 2012-01-19 14:33

EDIT: Beaten.

**Chrian** · 2012-01-19 14:44

Ok so I thought about it a bit more and talked with some people
here are some rules concerning requests and some more additions:
Older players will be given higher consideration in as they know not to abuse block requests
new players must have a base built and basically play and their requests will be given consideration
no free billion blocks

1)reasonable block requests will be accepted
2) unreasonable block requests will be given a no.
3) I will be spawning some starter kits at spawn to help people skip the punching tree's part along with food and other supplies to help them live and survive to make a base.
which will be in a building at spawn , chosen building will be determined later via either voting or other mysterious ways.

**lolBST** · 2012-01-19 15:32

If anyone is too lazy to gather their own sheep and needs wool, I got the sheepatorium up and running. Got a pair of all 16 colors in their own pens, and 4 more pens up top for random colors.

**Doombear** · 2012-01-19 15:52

Gah I have just had the urge to make something on the server again... it has been so long and last time all I did was get distracted and make the Maze of Yeahfuckingright! Hmm, maybe I need to just build. I think I shall wait to see where Souj's DS Palace gets plopped down and wander off from there. I must be close to that gem.

Degenxerate · 2012-01-19 18:24

I'd be willing to help people gather mats like cobble or wool or whatever. I could see wool actually being super easy with how fast sheep grow it back now.

**djzombie** · 2012-01-19 18:30

If you dont want to give me chests of cobble thats fine, its easy enough to gather, but the rails, jesus the rails are difficult to come by.

If my requests are unreasonable, thats fine, I dont need that shit, because I don't really need a bridge back to the spawn or the floating islands. Was just building that stuff for the ease of others on the server.

**Chrian** · 2012-01-19 19:18

floating islands has millions of ore

just mine it? Can always collab with someone to ease the burden , I'am going to spawn chests just what I'am spawning is under consideration, I mean if i recall wasn't psion also making rails?

**djzombie** · 2012-01-19 19:42

thats cool, didn't realize the floating islands were filled with ore

and yeah psion gave me about 1/2 the rails i needed to finish my initial bridge.

**Kuishen** · 2012-01-19 20:37

:O Are floating islands free game then? I figured they were part of somebody's creation so I didn't mess with them. My temp base is off to the west (according to the map) of the group of buildings that (I assume, since some of them were disjointed) were part of what was ported over. I loaded some new chunks and settled down there for the time being, the plan is to make a castle in the middle of a large section of ocean and have an epic water interaction with lava thing going.

Buildings I'm referring to are North of the spawn according to the map, I would be NW. (At least I assume the red point on the compass is North on the map)

**Ragns** · 2012-01-19 20:44

Originally Posted by Kuishen

:O Are floating islands free game then? I figured they were part of somebody's creation so I didn't mess with them. My temp base is off to the west (according to the map) of the group of buildings that (I assume, since some of them were disjointed) were part of what was ported over. I loaded some new chunks and settled down there for the time being, the plan is to make a castle in the middle of a large section of ocean and have an epic water interaction with lava thing going.

Buildings I'm referring to are North of the spawn according to the map, I would be NW. (At least I assume the red point on the compass is North on the map)

The islands are from a previous map with a custom generator, you can assume it's safe to claim some parts if there's no buildings around.

**Chrian** · 2012-01-19 22:39

yea floating islands as long as your not looting is just fine to mine.

**djzombie** · 2012-01-19 23:06

yeah there is a significant amount of buildings on some of the floating islands, all the ore though, from what ragns said, is underneath the islands, not inside them. I've been mining there most of the day and haven't seen anyone else.

Built a watermelon patch there because i didn't have enough food to mine and make it back.

Gonna start building that bridge as soon as i get the rails made.

edit: just lost everything i spent the day mining for, done with even trying to get the mats to do such a large project

**Psion** · 2012-01-20 06:51

k, server went down for the night, GC.

5 large chests of ice and several of each of the 11 records for me, don't forget! :D (only cause they aren't things i can get normally.

)

(a stack of each of cow, chicken, mooshroom, wolf, pig, and sheep spawning eggs would be nice too, if it's not too much trouble)

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