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    Quote Originally Posted by Zoolander View Post
    Meek should have gotten out of the god damn senate race. I can't believe 20% of people voted for him, even that is way higher than I expected. All the black people vote for him or what? He was a terrible candidate with no chance of winning anyways lol, my god.

    Angle is inching closer to Reid but he still has a huge lead. I can't imagine she gets in, hope Im right.
    I'm not exactly sure how it works but if Meek had actually done that and thrown in the towel too early, he risked getting under 10% of the vote which would have relegated the democrats to minor party status in 2012, which would have been BIG trouble for Barack Obama's re-election since he is probably going to need those 25 electoral votes.

    If anyone should have resigned it was Crist, but honestly both of them were such horrible candidates I don't think either of them could have beaten Rubio

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurokikaze View Post
    Yeah I'm actually surprised by that. Guess it just wasn't marketed very well or at all... You'd think with all the potheads in Cali that would get passed so fast.

    Or maybe they would rather not have it be legal and taxable.
    Anyone whose actually been high or around people who are high know what to expect, and I didn't expect this to win at all. Majority of the stoners stayed home and are prolly gonna try and vote tomorrow or some crazy shit like that.

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    There were medical marijuana initiatives on the ballot in AZ and SD btw, the South Dakota one failed but the Arizona one is currently neck and neck

    edit: also I think Arizona might actually pass a law banning affirmative action in public employment and education >_>

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    MSNBC calling it for Reid.

    Holy. Fucking. Shit.

    This man was toast at the start of the year. Upset of the fucking century.

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    Wow, holy fucking shit. Harry Reid keeps his seat, somehow.

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    the people that don't smoke, never smoke or hate it, are usually just closed minded and think its the devil because it's illegal

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zealot View Post
    I'd love to know what factors keep people from voting to legalize marijuana. I've never smoked, and I don't intend to, but unless I'm really missing something I don't see why other non-stoner people are so opposed to legalizing this. Is the wave of misinformation just that incredible?
    Dare to say no bro.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zealot View Post
    I'd love to know what factors keep people from voting to legalize marijuana. I've never smoked, and I don't intend to, but unless I'm really missing something I don't see why other non-stoner people are so opposed to legalizing this. Is the wave of misinformation just that incredible?
    I'd have to agree... I'm the same as you: never smoked/don't intend to do it ever (even if legalized). I think it really is just misinformation and something being a drug is ultimately bad. Probably believe there's a good reason for it to be illegal like other drugs without really understanding the drug itself. Plus, hemp is so useful.

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    ^ pretty much. (what Jaregue said)

    Did you guys watch Bill Maher when Zack Galifianakis was on and he starts yelling about dragons? Thats pretty much it; misinformation. Alcohol is far worse than pot.


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    Looks like Dems need one of Washington or Colorado to keep the majority and not have to count on Sanders/Lieberman. Colorado looks like GOP might get it, Washington still a toss up.

    Lot of close Gov races too.

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    I'd like to mention NO WHERE during this season's campaign did I see anything about the marijuana campaign. They definitely didn't advertise the logic behind it enough. Only people talking about it is word of mouth and a couple of news stations that didn't explain it very well.

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    So, did anyone win by 1 vote?


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    Prop. 19, the measure to legalize marijuana in California, drew its strongest support from voters under 25 years old, Democrats and big-city-dwellers.

    But the California exit poll also found that opposition to the initiative was widespread. The Bay Area was the only region that tilted toward the measure -- and just barely, at 51% to 49%. It lost 54% to 46% in Los Angeles County, and 59% to 41% in the rest of Southern California.

    Men and women opposed it. Voters of every race and ethnicity opposed it. Asian American voters were most strongly against it, 62% to 38%, according to the poll conducted by Edison Research for the National Voter Pool, a consortium of the major television news networks and the Associated Press.

    Voters 65 and older opposed it by more than 2 to 1. Support was strongest among voters between 18 and 24, who went for it 64% to 36%. Voters between 25 and 29 narrowly backed it, 52% to 48%. But voters under 30 made up just 13% of the electorate, about the same as is typical in a midterm election. In presidential election years, these voters are at least 20% of the turnout.

    The poll found that the initiative did not win over the state’s middle-of-the-road voters, who make up the decisive swing vote. Although voters who think of themselves as Democrats went for it, 55% to 45%, nonpartisan and third-party voters went against it, 54% to 46%. Republicans rejected it 70% to 30%. Liberals supported the measure, but both moderates and conservatives sided against it.

    Neither income nor education seemed to make a big difference, although voters with a high school degree or less were most strongly opposed, turning 61% to 39% against it.
    But opponents said the initiative was riddled with flaws and would lead to more teenagers trying pot and more buzzed Californians on the roads and in the workplace.
    ~LATimes

    A host of other interests felt legalizing marijuana would create more problems than solutions. Some worried stoned drivers might take to the roads, creating more traffic accidents, or show up to their jobs high on pot. Many argued against the notion that marijuana is a mild drug, instead saying marijuana is a “gateway” drug that would lead to other problems for the state further down the road.

    Other opponents noted that the measure would lead to a patchwork of marijuana laws because it gave municipalities the power to make their own rules about marijuana.
    It is also still a federal crime and U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder recently declared that the federal government would continue to prosecute marijuana users and growers even if Prop. 19 passed.
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    "Same shit" opposition - gateway drug, people gonna be high at work, stoner drivers will ruin the roads. Basically there was little marketing for prop 19 outside of Facebook ads, guess they forgot? Advocates just assumed it'd win, but they left it up to the 18-24 turnout to win it, who were obviously too stoned to show up today.

    I think the second part was the most interesting, claiming that Prop 19 was not well designed as a bill, that every municipality would get its own interpretation

    EditEdit: CNN has closed the book on Prop19. Projected loss

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    It's really close in WA. Dem ahead by ~15000 and only 54% in according to MSNBC.

    Yeah Ksandra, thats what I thought. I'm not from Cali, but I only heard of Prop 19 towards the ass end of the election from the boards.

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    Pretty much every florida candidate is perfectly tied, with exactly 100% votes counted. Such a shame.

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    Yeah, I recall Maher saying the projected youth vote jumped from 6% to 12% in CA due to Prop 19 which, while still a huge jump, is pretty pathetic in terms of real support

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    There's an initiative on the ballot in Colorado btw, that would define "personhood" at conception, which opens up a whole host of problems for abortion/stem cell research/etc... and it's doing really well it seems

    Besides that there's health care votes in AZ/CO/OK that would prevent its citizens from being penalized for failing to buy health insurance, basically the "fuck you obamacare" amendments, and the Arizona Affirmative Action ban I mentioned earlier.

    Did they call Prop 19 yet? Still really close on Medical Marijuana in Arizona too

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    @Prop 19 - Yeah I think lack of funding sources probably didn't help advocates better educate CA on marijuana and prop 19. Perhaps their frame of reference wasn't so good either--as in, believing that running with the message that passing of prop 19 will help the economy would convince people to vote for it. Think for next time, they should also spend more time re-educating people and clarifying the misinformation.

    edit: @Atreides-- those two points you mention make me sad

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cream Soda View Post
    So, did anyone win by 1 vote?
    Nah, but thousands lazy fuckers like you allowed more morons to represent your state.

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    someone should have told him there was free food and wifi there

    edit: and working toilets

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