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[Talint]

She's a career politician. Nothing more. Nothing less. Just another politician who believes it's her duty to run the country with her ideas and not of that of what people paying her salary would like. http://www.gallup.com/poll/143885/pe...s-new-low.aspx

Your reasoning and the poll results do not connect to each other.

[Yuri-G]

all I know is I'm hoping and praying that Tom Emmer does not get elected. right now the results say Dayton but they're so close there will be an automatic recount. I do not want to live in a state with a GOP-controlled House, Senate, and Governorship.

[Acturus]

I can't tell if Sink or Scott won yet. It seems like Scott is still leading.

If he wins, see you in London.

I don't put much faith in Sink either. Something about being the CFO of Florida and yet not knowing what Florida's minimum wage is bothers me.

I know it's irrational to think that way, but I really felt trapped between a giant douche and a turd sandwich this year.

But yeah, Rick Scott man. I really want to read up on how he got out of the giant Medicare fraud deal in the late 90s. I have a hard time believing the CEO doesn't know about such things.

[Atreides]

Arizona Proposition 203:
Medical Marijuana
No: 661,988 (50%)
Yes: 655,285 (50%)
99% of precincts reporting

Soooo clooooose, still hasn't even been called yet

[Yuri-G]

god damnit Arizona, give me a reason to live in your shitty state if I end up moving there

[Cantih]

So, apparently, a large number of of democratic seats in the House that switched to the republican side, were Blue Dog democrats losing to actual republicans.
As such, the political makeup of those seats hasn't actually changed.
And the Blue Dog caucus has been gutted in half, so the democratic party in general is now leaning more left than before.

[Talint]

So, apparently, a large number of of democratic seats in the House that switched to the republican side, were Blue Dog democrats losing to actual republicans.
As such, the political makeup of those seats hasn't actually changed.
And the Blue Dog caucus has been gutted in half, so the democratic party in general is now leaning more left than before.

Yep, though I am sure they will blame the president for the "complete polarization" that's been happening. In their heads maybe. (see Evan Bayh, my favorite fucktwit)

Not that progressive candidates were immune. Real republican prizes have to be the heads of Alan Grayson and Russ Feingold.

[Atreides]

So, apparently, a large number of of democratic seats in the House that switched to the republican side, were Blue Dog democrats losing to actual republicans.
As such, the political makeup of those seats hasn't actually changed.
And the Blue Dog caucus has been gutted in half, so the democratic party in general is now leaning more left than before.

Yep, and you can pretty much blame the Tea Party for all of it. People are trying to compare this to 1994 but in terms of a Republican landslide and a massive update this was kinda incredibly underwhelming. I mean sure, the Tea Party candidates gained something like 35 house seats but they also lost in 54 of their races, and like I've been saying the Tea Party absolutely cost the Repubs the Senate. The Republican leadership is probably pretty steamed over these results, since the landslide they were expecting was nowhere near as pronounced as it needed to be.

and if the Republicans let the Tea Party have as much influence over the 2012 primaries you're only going to see the same thing again, they won't be able to capture the presidency and there's a good chance they'll lose the house again, unless the economy is really really bad or something

[Cantih]

True, the republicans did take real seats, and they do have the House. (Though compared to the democratic percent we just switched out of, the Republican margin is REALLY fucking narrow. Though now the same can be said of the democrats in the Senate.)

But the silver lining is at least the democrats have finally gotten their house cleaned a bit, and the next time things swing to their side, we'll hopefully see a much more useful democratic caucus.
And now with the midterms over, I hope to hear Obama & the democrats really fucking threaten to use the nuclear option/end the filibuster to get shit done.

[Talint]

and if the Republicans let the Tea Party have as much influence over the 2012 primaries you're only going to see the same thing again, they won't be able to capture the presidency and there's a good chance they'll lose the house again, unless the economy is really really bad or something

Evan Bayh is going to primary challenge the President.

THAT will be disastrous; exactly the kind of shit the democrats don't need going into 2012.

[Atreides]

Evan Bayh is going to primary challenge the President.

THAT will be disastrous; exactly the kind of shit the democrats don't need going into 2012.

I dont think anyone should doubt that Barack Obama will get the nomination, the problem Republicans have now (and other democratic candidates, I guess) is that no one out there has the same media exposure and "star power" to put up a fight with Obama. I mean Sarah Palin will probably run in the primary for sure, but the republican leadership knows she can't beat Barack Obama without massive economic downturn or some sort of really bad gaff, but other than that there aren't a lot of candidates that have the level of support Obama does.

MAYBE Mitt Romney, maybe Michael Bloomberg, I know they're throwing around Chris Christie's name but the guy's only been governor for a few years now and just took a huge hit to his popularity over the Tunnel debacle (not to mention he has virtually 0 labor support) but to be honest when you're starting to consider people like Christie and "Fresh faces" it's only because you don't have anyone else and you know you're in for a big challenge.

edit: If the repubs want to win the presidency in 2012 they know they have to get their house in order, close the Tea Party/Leadership gap, and get someone out there in front of cameras as soon as possible and start campaigning... but that seems increasing unlikely since I highly doubt we've even begun to see the worst of Republican infighting

oh and it looks like they're calling FL Gov race for Scott...

[tyven]

Eric Cantor 2012, count on it

[Atreides]

yknow, you might be on to something. The guy is young and well-spoken, somewhat moderate enough to appeal to independents/undecideds but still able to toe the party line, and respected by people on both sides of the aisle. He could probably put up a better fight than Romney could, that's for sure, but I guess we'll see. Someone like him usually gets shoehorned into the VP slot by the rich old white dudes lol

[Cantih]

Erick CantorMarks 2012, count on it

fixed

[Talint]

I dont think anyone should doubt that Barack Obama will get the nomination, the problem Republicans have now (and other democratic candidates, I guess) is that no one out there has the same media exposure and "star power" to put up a fight with Obama. I mean Sarah Palin will probably run in the primary for sure, but the republican leadership knows she can't beat Barack Obama without massive economic downturn or some sort of really bad gaff, but other than that there aren't a lot of candidates that have the level of support Obama does.

But my point moreso is how brutal a primary challenge is to a sitting president. It's so not worth the political capital, and I don't doubt Evan Bayh is going to bulldoze on ahead anyway.

As for not having a viable field of candidates, that's what I was saying about the democrats in 2006. Anything is possible in two years.

[Atreides]

yea true, that's a good point. I remember when Bobby Jindal's name was tossed around right after Obama's election, then he gave that HORRIBLE republican response to the stimulus speech lol. Oddly enough he's probably even more popular now and could have really used the BP disaster to springboard himself, but I guess Karl Rove didn't want that

[Antithesis]

Rick Scott is apparently the winner for Governor now.

See you all in London.

[Altariel]

I think i asked this before, but, why do republicans/conservatives hate Pelosi so much?

Because white males hate powerful white women? And it's an easy target. If she fights back, they brand her in political correct terms as a "bitch" and proves their point.

[Kurp]

I don't even know what to think after seeing what Minnesota has done.

[aurik]

The more I read about Rand Paul the more I admit he seems to be the most honest guy in the field. If there were any merit to his economic ideas he'd be probably be a good Senator. Well, that and if he didn't defend people who stomp on defenseless women.

Rand Paul is fucking crazy. He's libertarian to the point of lunacy. Looking forward to the Rs marginalizing him just as much as Ron.