Go vote

[Dimmauk]

I voted, and I'm Hispanic and live in Texas. I voted Democrat, and if no Democrat was running, I voted for anything that wasn't Republican or Tea Party.

[Odesseiron]

I like your complete deflection of everything thrown at you. Food stamps are a form of welfare. If you want to use a more PC phrase, call it Public Assistance. Have you ever considered Section 8? I don't think you have, but I don't know. Another form of PA. I see trying to argue you with you is absolutely pointless as you have that "My vote don't matter so fuck it" attitude. And will put your own spin on whatever somebody says to you. Way to be a good contributing member of society.

[Cream Soda]

Complete deflection. It's pretty obvious I applied for foodstamps, as I just said I was denied for them. You said foodstamps and other forms of welfare. That portion of the response applied to the other forms of welfare.

as you have that "My vote don't matter so fuck it" attitude.

It's not just that because if there were someone I gave a shit about, no, I don't think my one vote would count, but I'd probably put in some volunteer work, etc to get others to vote for said candidate.

That being said, I don't give a fuck about any of the candidates. They're all just as bad as one another, lol.

[Kaylia]

That.

If someone on the street gives you a penny, it's nothing, fucking worthless.
If every person in America gave you a penny, you'd have three million dollars.

People follow your viewpoint, and ain't no pennies gonna be movin' at all.

If you remove any random (non biased) samples from a large population, the odd that it has any impact on the end result is incredibly small. I know we can't talk about "non biased sample" since certain group are less likely to vote, but statistically, your vote doesn't matter, unless you can influence a lot of people.


If you want to change something, the only real way is to implicate yourself (from the inside, or influencing public opinion using the media). That's where your real power is in a democracy. Voting alone won't make any ripple.

[Atreides]

one of them is going to get elected anyway, not voting because you don't like either is just sticking your head in the sand

[Kuya]

Cream Soda represents the poor. If that isn't enough reason to vote republican, i don't know what is.

[dejet]

Then I pity you

Its not worth fighting with the guy. You do your part by showing him how his vote does count, that is all you can do. He wont change his mind.

You are better off moving onto the next person, post on your facebook/tweet(if you have them) to get out and vote. Talk about it at work, thats all I am doing this year, to busy myself to do much more then that.

I would talk about it at my school too, but its not worth it, everyone is set in their ways. I gave up when I talked with a classmate and he said democrat. When asked who, he could not name one person lol.

I no its not worth posting, most people on BG will vote. We have a large college population, and the trend is that college students are voting a hell of a lot more. But for the people who do not.

Local stuff is always worth voting for, why we see a higher turn out rate of voters for president election, I will never understand. This Election is far more important, a president election is almost always a fight in less then 10 states. local elections are almost always a fight no matter what, polls change fast and with such one sided government we have its even a bigger deal.

As the OP said, both sides have to go out and vote, it very well could come down to a few hundred votes to determined how our country is run for the next 2 to 4 years.

[Cream Soda]

one of them is going to get elected anyway, not voting because you don't like either is just sticking your head in the sand

Again, I dislike them all THE SAME, so while yes, one will end up in office. No, I don't care which of the candidates it is.

[Atreides]

the fact that Kuya can't vote really pains me

[Cream Soda]

If you remove any random (non biased) samples from a large population, the odd that it has any impact on the end result is incredibly small. I know we can't talk about "non biased sample" since certain group are less likely to vote, but statistically, your vote doesn't matter, unless you can influence a lot of people.


If you want to change something, the only real way is to implicate yourself and (from the inside, or influencing public opinion using the media). That's where your real power is in a democracy. Voting alone won't make any ripple.

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[Atreides]

Again, I dislike them all THE SAME, so while yes, one will end up in office. No, I don't care which of the candidates it is.

You do know that only one of the senate candidates in FL wants to more or less gut nearly all social welfare programs, raise the retirement age, privatize social security, and make it harder for people to get jobless benefits/food stamps, right?

[darkepyon]

Neither of the main FL gubernatorial candidates are all that appealing. One was involved in one of the biggest medicare frauds in history and the other lost a shitload of pension money. I'll probably be voting for one of the other guys this year. I guess you can say it's like those old Toho kaiju movies (Godzilla etc.) - no matter who wins, Tokyo gets destroyed. I'll just be glad when all the dumb political ads are gone.

[Kaylia]

one of them is going to get elected anyway, not voting because you don't like either is just sticking your head in the sand

I cant speak for USA, but political party receive money for every vote they get here. That's enough of a reason to skip an election when both side are corrupted (and the 3rd one involve hippies that have no chance to get elected). I'm still voting every federal election though.

[Cream Soda]

You do know that only one of the senate candidates in FL wants to more or less gut nearly all social welfare programs, raise the retirement age, privatize social security, and make it harder for people to get jobless benefits/food stamps, right?

As I said on the previous page. I wasn't applying for food stamps saying "omg you guys need to give me money", it was "If I get it, cool. If not, oh well".

[Kuya]

If you remove any random (non biased) samples from a large population, the odd that it has any impact on the end result is incredibly small. I know we can't talk about "non biased sample" since certain group are less likely to vote, but statistically, your vote doesn't matter, unless you can influence a lot of people.


If you want to change something, the only real way is to implicate yourself (from the inside, or influencing public opinion using the media). That's where your real power is in a democracy. Voting alone won't make any ripple.

He is using media. The internet.

I agree that just telling one person that they need to vote because their vote matters sounds statistically inaccurate, but the argument becomes far more relevant when you talk to a much larger number of people, and in theory, by saying this on the interent, he might have enough influence. At least, influence over more than just one person.

[dejet]

Soda is a troll. Give up on the guy. He does not give a shit, find others who might care even a little lol.

[Yabby]

Again, I dislike them all THE SAME, so while yes, one will end up in office. No, I don't care which of the candidates it is.

You just skipped over my post it seem, as you did not answer my question.

[Atreides]

As I said on the previous page. I wasn't applying for food stamps saying "omg you guys need to give me money", it was "If I get it, cool. If not, oh well".

the point is you were standing there with your hand out, and now by not voting you're purposely making it even harder for yourself if you need it in the future. People don't get food stamps because they want to, they do it because they have to (most of the time, anyway).

[dejet]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...ection_results

[Cream Soda]

This is where your point breaks down. The fact that you think they are equally bad shows you don't know anything about ether member and just say they suck because they are running. The only way they could be equal to you is if you 100% agree with BOTH sides of the big issues, which is impossible.

You are ether for or against healthcare, for/against abortions, for/against raising taxes on the top 1%, for/against stopping tax breaks for company. These are issues they are running on. One side is for all these things, one against it. Which side are you on?

Yea, I did miss your question. When I hit new post, it went to the one under it, so I never saw this.

By disliking them both equally, I mean them as people. Imo, all politicians are crooks and liars and even if they say something in a campaign, they are not bound to it, so could be lying on their stance on issues as well.