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    Prop 8 WAS just for marriage, CA still has civil unions.

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    OMG NOOOOOOOOO
    http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...y/#more-133982

    Well, maybe Parker Spitzer might actually get some ratings now

    God this is honestly bumming me out worse than the elections did

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    You wouldn't know that though because you've demonstrably never picked up a book nor educated yourself on the matter. Let me guess, overweight housewife?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Restrat View Post
    Prop 8 WAS just for marriage, CA still has civil unions.
    you missed my point.

    The fact that prop 8 was for "marriage" is what helped fuck it over in the first place.

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    but if it wasn't for "marriage" there would BE no prop 8, thats all it was. the word marriage versus civil union in state language

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    You wouldn't know that though because you've demonstrably never picked up a book nor educated yourself on the matter. Let me guess, overweight housewife?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Restrat View Post
    but if it wasn't for "marriage" there would BE no prop 8, thats all it was. the word marriage versus civil union in state language
    you realize marriage has benefits and civil unions don't right?

    So no it wasn't all it was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atreides View Post
    OMG NOOOOOOOOO
    http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...y/#more-133982

    Well, maybe Parker Spitzer might actually get some ratings now

    God this is honestly bumming me out worse than the elections did
    Fucking owned. What a bonehead move.

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    yeah it was pretty dumb on his part, but it looks like the guy who suspended him has been being pretty draconian with MSNBC's hosts for a while now. If they ever get rid of maddow I'll be out in the street, but hopefully Olbermann gets his show back or ends up on CNN or something

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    Quote Originally Posted by aurik View Post
    This is why republicans saw a large increase in the LGBT vote:

    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi..._Needs.svg.png

    Safety is below love/belonging.

    Actually it's just because gay people are just as retarded as everybody else.

    It's the same as the like 80% union workers in Kansas that are extremely dependent on unemployment (especially lately) in our economy that's largely based around the aircraft industry, overwhelmingly voting for Sam fucking Brownback as governor, electing Tihart over and over again, etc. etc. They believe what they hear, and one side is a hell of a lot louder than the other.

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    I always saw Keith as the Glenn/Rush of the left... just not nearly half as bad. This is pretty upsetting though.

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    It really seems more like the issue was that Olbermann violated MSNBC's policy.

    It's $7,200 between three candidates (two in AZ, fucked up place; and Conway in KY).
    Plus it's an individual donation (motivated by a discussion with a friend), instead of a corporate/entire network donating.

    Maybe they're trying to dump him, it seems it's more the violation of policy, TBH.

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    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/#40018721

    Latest episode of The Last Word. Pretty crazy.

    Edit:

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/#40018314

    Latest episode of The Rachel Maddow show cause its fucking hilarious. Easily my new favorite left media show because of her awesome sarcasm. It's kinda like Jon Stewart but less jokes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atreides View Post
    yeah it was pretty dumb on his part, but it looks like the guy who suspended him has been being pretty draconian with MSNBC's hosts for a while now. If they ever get rid of maddow I'll be out in the street, but hopefully Olbermann gets his show back or ends up on CNN or something
    on who's part?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edelweiss View Post
    It really seems more like the issue was that Olbermann violated MSNBC's policy.
    Just like Juan Williams continually violated NPR's policy. I see no difference here - both of them deserve what they get/got. Private companies are not Congress and may regulate their employees how they see fit, or within the boundaries of the contracts with their employees. We may not agree with it, we may be upset to the point of boycott, but if it is within their rights and doesn't violate the law or a contract between the two parties then it is legitimate.

    Maybe they're trying to dump him, it seems it's more the violation of policy, TBH.
    Yeah it's definitely a policy thing. NBC News, despite the bend of its on-air personalities and completely opposite of News Corp/FNC, keeps an extremely strict policy of impartiality in regards to employee donations to politicians. I imagine CNN, CBS and ABC also have similar policies.

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    it's not like anyone thinks keith olbermann is MORE of a liberal now

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    Hmm.. the plot gets thicker... http://twitter.com/chrislhayes/

    OK: I'm not filling in on Countdown tonight because I didn't feel comfortable doing it given the circumstances.
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    My not hosting tonight has nothing to do with several donations I made to two friends before I ever signed an MSNBC contract.

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    anyone know where I can find full eps of parker spitzer (and joy behar, I love it, stfu) online? MSNBC is great about having full eps of their big 1 hour programs but CNN only does excerpts which is beyond annoying

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    OH LOOKIE HERE - Joe Scarborough did EXACTLY the same thing and he's never been suspended.

    All of a sudden MSNBC's management & ownership looks like it has an agenda.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Olo401 View Post
    Hmm.. the plot gets thicker... http://twitter.com/chrislhayes/
    who do you think they'll get? last time Olbermann was off it was that Cenk dude, although I don't see him as a full time replacement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atreides View Post
    who do you think they'll get? last time Olbermann was off it was that Cenk dude, although I don't see him as a full time replacement.
    At this short notice I'm not sure.. They might get Cenk, they might have Rachel cover for two hours.

    I'd like to see Sam Seder take the chair personally. You don't see him enough anymore since AAR went buhbye.

    Edit: Looks like they found some random scrub to fill in.

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