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  1. #41
    Ridill
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    Check the latest Ask the Devs.

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    Two Bards, One Cup
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    Some more data on non-universal crafting gear:

    I asked a 35 CRP wearing Canvas Robe on the bonuses he/she got from it: +7 craftsmanship (+11 for favoured classes) and +6 magical craftsmanship (+7 for favoured classes).

    Now I just need to find data on Hats before I decide on what to use for my various crafts.

  3. #43
    Melee Summoner
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayhawk View Post
    Some more data on non-universal crafting gear:

    I asked a 35 CRP wearing Canvas Robe on the bonuses he/she got from it: +7 craftsmanship (+11 for favoured classes) and +6 magical craftsmanship (+7 for favoured classes).

    Now I just need to find data on Hats before I decide on what to use for my various crafts.
    Hmm, while that sounds decent, it's still far from what Carpenter can get from a Canvas Doublet Vest (+12 craftsmanship). This will come down to what synths require craftsmanship versus magic craftsmanship. As for hats, it seems like spectacles are the way to go for magic craftsmanship with a coif for control unless your craft jobs all benefit from the hat/beret series. This also comes down to how much of an effect control has. We might be able to make up any deficiencies with a specific food, too.

  4. #44
    Ridill
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    What's strange is I put on a canvas robe just to test some stuff out last night, my Craftsmanship went down by 2 points (I was wearing a vest with +7) because im only rank 22. So I swapped to LNC, which is 30, put the robe on again, and got the MND+2 from the robe, even though I was still not listed as favored class.

    Maybe if you out level the item a bit you get full stats regardless? I can't test it myself on CRP yet since im not ranking up that fast, but I found it odd nonetheless.

  5. #45
    Two Bards, One Cup
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    Quote Originally Posted by Meresgi View Post
    What's strange is I put on a canvas robe just to test some stuff out last night, my Craftsmanship went down by 2 points (I was wearing a vest with +7) because im only rank 22. So I swapped to LNC, which is 30, put the robe on again, and got the MND+2 from the robe, even though I was still not listed as favored class.

    Maybe if you out level the item a bit you get full stats regardless? I can't test it myself on CRP yet since im not ranking up that fast, but I found it odd nonetheless.
    The data given from the CRP 35 wearing the Canvas Robe indicates that you don't get full stats if you out level the item.

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    Ridill
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayhawk View Post
    The data given from the CRP 35 wearing the Canvas Robe indicates that you don't get full stats if you out level the item.
    So the question is then..why some bonus stats and not others? Maybe there is a cut off? Like any stat under +4 is awarded in full, but beyond that you get a penalty?

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    Relic Horn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaeda View Post
    You know, I can see this being true since Protect doesn't show up in the status screen, as well as (apparently) food effects.
    You mean any food effect or just crafting property boosts? I've had foods that definitely show base stat and hp/mp increases on the stat window.

  8. #48
    Ridill
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    Question on training bought with guild marks, do I need to equip it? or do anything or am I good just after buying it? I see no indication I have it even though I just bought Tanning Training.

  9. #49
    Old Merits
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    It should take affect without you doing anything, at least that's the way it seems from comparing hook success rate before/after.

  10. #50
    Galkasaur
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    Quote Originally Posted by miokomioko View Post
    It completely depends on the individual recipe. Too bad we don't know what recipes use Craftsmanship and which recipes use Magic Craftsmanship.
    On that note, has anyone made any progress or theorizing regarding which recipes use which? It would obviously be quite the helpful piece of information.

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    Sea Torques
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    Quote Originally Posted by Meresgi View Post
    So the question is then..why some bonus stats and not others? Maybe there is a cut off? Like any stat under +4 is awarded in full, but beyond that you get a penalty?
    I think it has to do with the way they are calculating percentages. I think they go in level ranges below optimum, and the returned value is the next highest integer. In example, something with +2 DEX and +7craftsmanship might give the +2 DEX 10+ ranks below optimal, but only give 3 or 4 of the +7. Obviously, if we had a large pool of information to draw from this would be an easy observation, but since we are reduced to assumptions it seems to be applicable.

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