Dorp XXV: wtf bynes.

**Fiendishone** · 2011-02-13 08:46

What were party set ups like? Do want that atma for my cannon.

**Skylark** · 2011-02-13 11:18

Originally Posted by Fiendishone

What were party set ups like? Do want that atma for my cannon.

Wondering this as well, how many people did you have, how long did it take?

**Dammerung** · 2011-02-13 16:05

Originally Posted by Airenn

Beneficus~ Yay.

Had a MNK proc Blue on it for me, then I brewed on RDM. Jesus I was scared shitless. Para hit RIGHT after brew landed and I was nervous the entire time knowing ??? could kill me with brew up. -_-

??? needles only did ~2500 to me with brew. Only did it once so not sure if that was a lucky fluke or not.

**Airenn** · 2011-02-13 19:27

Originally Posted by Dammerung

??? needles only did ~2500 to me with brew. Only did it once so not sure if that was a lucky fluke or not.

It's random. Completely. I think it can do some BS 40k needles. Of which brew is not going to save you from obviously.

**matt4684** · 2011-02-13 19:48

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/c...213_192858.jpg

There were a bunch of dead people sending me desperate tells asking for the boomerang. Wasn't expecting the head, but I'll keep it. (No proc)

**jimbobsonofgod** · 2011-02-13 20:00

i smn + bst killed the cactus ??? Needles hit shiva for just over 15k a couple of times puts the total damage on that move around 60k ?

**matt4684** · 2011-02-13 20:34

That seems to be around the max that I've seen

**Revann** · 2011-02-14 03:24

Originally Posted by Skylark

Wondering this as well, how many people did you have, how long did it take?

We had 25ish people for the fight that actually did something, and it took about an hour from pop to final death. but we could have done it in probably 40 flat. Feel free to send PM's for setups/strat etc.

**Alkimi** · 2011-02-14 10:52

Originally Posted by Airenn

It's random. Completely. I think it can do some BS 40k needles. Of which brew is not going to save you from obviously.

We trioed it once as BLM WHM SAM, pretty much just zombie killing it with Apoc atma since all he wanted to use was needles. Highest we saw was just over 65k needles. It's stunnable but damn hard to do so, probably stunned about 50% of them. If you have a bot to do it you'll probably have more luck.

**Myrrh_Quetz** · 2011-02-14 12:50

I loved Soloing it on Smn back when Ducal Guard worked for 100% pdt. Shit was hilarious to see Garuda take 0 and one of my friends take 15~20k dmg

**Afrohatch** · 2011-02-14 13:36

Migawari > 3millionneedles

**Daiiawn** · 2011-02-14 13:59

Originally Posted by Alkimi

We trioed it once as BLM WHM SAM, pretty much just zombie killing it with Apoc atma since all he wanted to use was needles. Highest we saw was just over 65k needles. It's stunnable but damn hard to do so, probably stunned about 50% of them. If you have a bot to do it you'll probably have more luck.

SCH/BLM would have worked a lot better for us than BLM/SCH did, with a SCH/BLM im fairly confident you could stun every ??? needles (unless you got very unlucky and it did it as you were using half cast time strat, but even then it would be doable)

**Thorny** · 2011-02-14 14:22

nin and blm/whm can duo np, stunbot needles and cast migawari whenever a stun goes off in case it uses it again during recast

**Deader2818** · 2011-02-14 15:18

Does that combo still worth without the use of stun bot or do you need to change it up a bit?

**Alkimi** · 2011-02-14 20:20

You'd have to have the reactions of a cat. Another alternative would be to go with NIN and BRD/WHM so you could get the recast time of Migawari down to a point where you'd have it up (almost) constantly. Just keep the NINs HP at full. Apart from ??? needles it's fairly harmless.

**Thorny** · 2011-02-14 20:32

recast- caps at 50%, you get 40% from gear/haste and another 4% from loq/neck if you don't suck.. brd is cutting off like 3 seconds on recast, not worth giving up a real healer/stunner for

realistically, you'd get caught with your pants down or rage it(30 min rage timer, has too much hp to turn every time miga is eaten)

dunno if you can stun ??? without a bot, but don't think you can reliably

**Alkimi** · 2011-02-14 20:38

Ah I see, didn't know that Migawari is actually 'consumed' when you take the damage.

**Revann** · 2011-02-19 14:05

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...RavenXP/AV.png

Popped 2 of these and got the same pool both times. Pretty much a complete joke of a fight at 90. Also got Love Torque/Novio x2 off both the JoL's. Another synthetic atma woohoo?

**Afrohatch** · 2011-02-19 16:45

You can have Miga up fulltime(unless it's consumed by ??? ofcourse) with 2x march and haste, cuts recast down to just about a minute for me.

@Revann, setup for killing AV? Assuming you did the PD method lol

**Michelob** · 2011-02-20 02:30

You can zerg it down without PD, it just requires a little luck that way.

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