Critical Attack Bonus caps at 100% (Critical Hit Damage) (Updated May 2011)

[Kirschy]

I named it Critical Attack Bonus since thats how it's listed on the trait. I'll modify the title though~

[Kirschy]

This def belongs in another thread, but I'm not starting a new one til there's something more conclusive. I played with Gnarled Horn for ~40min /w my LS as we built up time to spam Behe for hands of fastness:

Player            Melee Dmg   Melee %   Hit/Miss   M.Acc %  M.Low/Hi    M.Avg  #Crit  C.Low/Hi   C.Avg     Crit%
Kirschy              237344   90.08 %    1192/75   94.08 %    69/152   100.11    871   172/331  235.60   73.07 %

In general it seems crit rate /w RR is as follows:
5% (Base) + 15%(dDex capped) + 30% (Razed Ruins) + 4% (Merits) = 54%

This is close to what myself and others have parsed on various mobs. The above data shows ~20% increase from Gnarled Horn which gives 3 easy possibilities (assuming margin of error is small with 1200 hits.)

1)RR gives 30% Crit Rate+ and GH gives 20% Crit Rate+
2)Crit Rate+ from atmas is capped at 50%
3)Crit Rate+ from all sources is capped at 75%?

3 Seems doubtful since some people have reported over 75% crit rate, although I don't think any were 500+ hit samples? Def needs more testing and data~

EDIT: Updated parse /w more kills

[carmancilla]

I tried this out of curiosity after reading GH atma effects last night and got 77.something% crit rate vs VV atma of 55%. I'll have to check the parse file again when I get home as I'm not sure if I did 500+ hits but I parsed for about and hour or so.

[Kilik]

From tonights Chloris fights (I get Innin bonus on this more than any other mob):

Melee Damage
Player            Melee Dmg   Melee %   Hit/Miss   M.Acc %  M.Low/Hi    M.Avg  #Crit  C.Low/Hi   C.Avg     Crit%
Aurara                34133   37.39 %     124/17   87.94 %    43/230   149.95     65   166/490  389.02   52.42 %
Doebie                52871   63.09 %     408/62   86.81 %     0/121    67.74    221    49/283  181.91   54.17 %
Eiketsu                2560  100.00 %      89/45   66.42 %      2/32    15.64     22    37/346   68.73   24.72 %
Kilik                 92078   59.29 %     468/82   85.09 %     0/173    65.12    394    64/567  221.47   84.19 %

Here's the overall parse from a few nights ago. All of my others that are from me using RR+GH have me at 75.XX%, this one has me over 76% for over 7000 hits:

Melee Damage
Player            Melee Dmg   Melee %   Hit/Miss   M.Acc %  M.Low/Hi    M.Avg  #Crit  C.Low/Hi   C.Avg     Crit%
Chucknoris           618217   39.17 %   2365/198   92.27 %     0/681   238.61    349     0/790  393.05   14.76 %
Draac                920806   59.35 %   7570/573   92.96 %     0/132    62.28   4412     0/250  164.12   58.28 %
Eiketsu                4556  100.00 %     197/88   69.12 %      0/31    15.08     27     0/214   73.78   13.71 %
Kilik               1251753   61.08 %   7445/617   92.35 %     0/292    76.59   5681     0/601  196.56   76.31 %
Bo                       78  100.00 %        1/0  100.00 %     78/78    78.00      0       0/0    0.00    0.00 %
Garuda                 1603   16.02 %       23/1   95.83 %     11/60    44.69      7   117/137  126.86   30.43 %

These are all without any crit rate + gear.

[carmancilla]

Checked Parse vs. T- VT crawlers, puks 1 Seps 2 Pascepot I had Iga cape (+3% Crit) for Crit gear, RR + GH, Marinara +1, didn't Innin.

Hit/Miss:1383/88 Crit: 77.58%

Small sample size compared to Kilik just wanted to add what I could.

[Shinryuu]

Jesus, 84% crit hit rate. Dayumn.

[Tsuko_Asura]

Does this make GH better than VV for anyone who can take full advantage of the crit. rate increase, then?

[Byrthnoth]

It depends if you gain fSTR from VV, if STR is a WS mod, if your WS can crit, etc etc. For jobs with low weapon rank (Daggers, Katanas, H2H, etc), I can't imagine VV will pull ahead. (assuming 40STR from Furtherances, you're already ~fSTR+10, another 12 STR from food/gear in TP caps your fSTR up to a D53 weapon.)

[Tsuko_Asura]

ffff

Time to go atma hunting :s

[Malacite]

Jesus Murphy 84%....

THF Cream.

[KSDI]

Silly question here, people keep saying +40 from furtherances, I have both abysites and only seem to be getting +30, what am I missing?

[Ocara]

Silly question here, people keep saying +40 from furtherances, I have both abysites and only seem to be getting +30, what am I missing?

martello cores?

[Foldypaws]

martello cores?

Those can push you to at least +50 though (maybe higher)

[Kirschy]

Yea I keep saying +40 myself, but it's +10 base, +10 for each Abyssite of Furtherance, for a total of +30. In newer zones you get an additional stat bonus depending on how the Martello is doing. I won't speak for other servers, but Bastion is almost a fulltime failure here, so it's common to only get a +5-10 bonus. This lead myself and others to believe it was a +40 bonus =x.

[rog]

Thoughts on GH for war?

Things to consider would be that i have barbarus or vermeil. I don't have askar/aurum body, so a 6hit with barbarus without VV would require tactical mantle (-30 atk/3 str), or i could switch to vermeil, for -4 damage, +3.2% delay, +8 str.

[Malacite]

Yeah Bastion ain't doing so well on Bismark either...

But didn't SE say they were gonna adjust it by buffing NPCs?

[rog]

Yeah, i believe so.

Also, it's really not too hard to win with a good rdm or something kiting everything around. Every single time i've done bastion on rdm (ie liek 3 times), we won, with all of those having in the range of 2-5 other people.

[Malacite]

I got so pissed the other night when I died moments before a doll died, I dropped like 70% of it's HP with one Darkesbane [about 1740, I don't have my 2nd lunar yet ; . ;] argh balls. I love that rewards are instant but getting nothing if you're dead blows chunks.

[Sho]

Yeah, i believe so.

Also, it's really not too hard to win with a good rdm or something kiting everything around. Every single time i've done bastion on rdm (ie liek 3 times), we won, with all of those having in the range of 2-5 other people.

A BLU can also roll through and snipe Non-Chariot mobs extremely fast, leading to a win.

[Heian]

If I can remember to do so, I'll do some testing on this later this week.

Razed Ruins makes me want to get back on my NIN, playing around with it on some of the crabs near Cirein-Croin after getting it and we figured I was critting around 80+%, on these I was going 12 ~ 13 crits in a row, Jin crits were wonkey though, just need to test more. No parse was on, but I would imagine over 500 mobs I would be around 75% which seems to make sense as a cap. If I remember I'll post parse log, gear, food etc.. Also I have not been able to get my hands on any of the NIN crit+ damage items. I may do this on WAR too, my crit rate seems to be around 50%~60% on WAR. Also got EE's atma this morning and my god it is just retarded, basically like turning on god mode in terms of DD'n shit.