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    Real Life True blood Found(sorta). Incoming outing of Vampires everywhere.

    ok so its not synthetic blood but this is still cool nonetheless. Maybe now those assholes at blood banks could stop calling me once a month because I made the mistake of donating blood 6 years ago.


    http://www.fox10tv.com/dpps/health/h...-blood_3642667

    CNN) - Researchers at Canada's McMaster University report that they've figured out how to make blood out of human skin.

    The breakthrough could eventually mean that patients needing blood for surgery, cancer treatment or treatment of blood conditions like anemia will be able to have blood created from a patch of their own skin to provide transfusions, the university said.

    Skin cells that are removed from the patient can be multiplied in a petri dish and converted into a large quantity of blood cells, which themselves can be multiplied, lead researcher Mick Bhatia told CNN.

    "We're hoping that about a 4-by-3-centimeters patch of skin could be removed from the patient, be converted through this process, which we clearly have to optimize, and ultimately have enough to transplant (enough blood for) a full-grown adult," said Bhatia, scientific director of the Stem Cell and Cancer Research Institute in McMaster's Michael G. DeGroote School of Medicine.

    The scientists were able to convert the cells directly without first converting them to pluripotent stem cells - the kind that can grow into any type of organ or tissue - and then converting them again to blood, Bhatia said.

    "This groundbreaking work from Mick Bhatia's lab is both fascinating and important," said Samuel Weiss, professor and director, Hotchkiss Brain Institute, University of Calgary. "It heralds a new age by discovering a role for 'directed differentiation' in the treatment of cancers and other disorders of the blood and immune system."

    The research was funded by the Canadian Institutes of Health Research, the Canadian Cancer Society Research Institute, the Stem Cell Network and the Ontario Ministry of Research and Innovation. It was published in Monday's edition of the journal Nature.

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    just have anal sex and they'll leave you alone forever

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    Nobody wants to get transfused with 'the gay'.

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    Isn't it usually some kind of emergency when someone needs a blood transfusion? How fast is the process from skin -> usable amounts of blood?

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    It can be used to generate extra, matching blood prior to a planned surgery.

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    We're also supposed to be able to grow organs from stem cells, literally re-arrange people's DNA to make them well genetically, and fix paralysis and other types of things. It just seems like there's nothing but research turning out great results but not ever being put into use. I realize there's a ton of red tape before we can safely start using the treatments on humans but...it feels really, really long. How many years will it be before we see blood actually being manufactured from skin cells and able to be used?

    There's only 2 cases I've seen where this line of research has actually been put to use and one was sort of an accident - the guy who got cured of HIV through a bone marrow transplant and the bubble babies who were almost all cured of the disease through gene therapy a couple years ago. I just hope this kind of thing gets put into play as quickly as possible because there is so much potential to save lives with what we're finding out how to do within the last 5-10 years.

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    The scientists were able to convert the cells directly without first converting them to pluripotent stem cells - the kind that can grow into any type of organ or tissue - and then converting them again to blood, Bhatia said.
    This totally sidesteps any of the stupid fucking cunts who try to hold up stem cell research based on the "YER KILLIN BABEEZ" shit.

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    Okay I may be wrong here, but I think Mexico already uses a synthetic blood for their patients (though not nearly as high tech as that), and has been doing so for years.

    Just looked it up, somewhat. We've had fake blood for a while, but it's been mostly single purpose stuff like "something for the heart to pump". "Something for the heart to pump AND carries Oxygen" has been difficult to reproduce, and it still doesn't fully do all the things blood can. Approved by the FDA in 1989, Oxygen Therapeutics, as they're called, have been in wide use in third world countries because finding and maintaining clean blood is next to impossible.

    Which is actually pretty smart, considering they're disease-less and type-less.

    And yea, a few years ago someone came up with making stem cells out of skin, which totally fucked up that whole argument.

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    They want my homo organs but not my homo blood. I got a quite funny letter from them when I updated my drivers license.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silenka View Post
    We're also supposed to be able to grow organs from stem cells, literally re-arrange people's DNA to make them well genetically, and fix paralysis and other types of things. It just seems like there's nothing but research turning out great results but not ever being put into use. I realize there's a ton of red tape before we can safely start using the treatments on humans but...it feels really, really long. How many years will it be before we see blood actually being manufactured from skin cells and able to be used?

    There's only 2 cases I've seen where this line of research has actually been put to use and one was sort of an accident - the guy who got cured of HIV through a bone marrow transplant and the bubble babies who were almost all cured of the disease through gene therapy a couple years ago. I just hope this kind of thing gets put into play as quickly as possible because there is so much potential to save lives with what we're finding out how to do within the last 5-10 years.
    The short answer is that the pharmaceutical industry doesn't want to cure anything, regardless if we can. Why cure people and profit once when you can leave them sick and have guaranteed profits for decades? Since you know, if you don't but from them....you die. Yay Capitalism!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pooky View Post
    The short answer is that the pharmaceutical industry doesn't want to cure anything, regardless if we can. Why cure people and profit once when you can leave them sick and have guaranteed profits for decades? Since you know, if you don't but from them....you die. Yay Capitalism!
    In America, at least, patents expire, generics get released, and when the profit margin drops to near zero, that's when we can cure it. That way, you get a few years on the cure to make a profit before it goes generic.

    On the other hand, global markets are different. Many countries (I think of Canada specifically) have very high generic prices, relatively speaking, because the market prices for the name brands are often restricted or capped.

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    Synthetic blood is infinitely more useful, as the patient could have an auto-immune disease which would render this treatment completely useless.

    Not to mention that they don't even describe the methodology here, which is concerning (to say the least). Although this would increase the success rate of cross-matches and transfusions, transfusions should be a last resort thing anyway and most doctors transfuse without even seeing if there's another way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pooky View Post
    The short answer is that the pharmaceutical industry doesn't want to cure anything, regardless if we can. Why cure people and profit once when you can leave them sick and have guaranteed profits for decades? Since you know, if you don't but from them....you die. Yay Capitalism!
    I really hope you're joking...

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    Quote Originally Posted by orson View Post
    I really hope you're joking...
    You're right to double take. its actually worst then his scenario. Its been well documented that Pharmaceutical companies over-price drugs and and lobby for longer patents so they can keep other companies from releasing a Generic version and in doing so contribute to the suffering and deaths of millions.

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    Newer lines of drugs called biologics don't actually have patents that expire, so generics will never be released of them... big pharma will profit forever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silenka View Post
    We're also supposed to be able to grow organs from stem cells, literally re-arrange people's DNA to make them well genetically, and fix paralysis and other types of things. It just seems like there's nothing but research turning out great results but not ever being put into use. I realize there's a ton of red tape before we can safely start using the treatments on humans but...it feels really, really long. How many years will it be before we see blood actually being manufactured from skin cells and able to be used?

    There's only 2 cases I've seen where this line of research has actually been put to use and one was sort of an accident - the guy who got cured of HIV through a bone marrow transplant and the bubble babies who were almost all cured of the disease through gene therapy a couple years ago. I just hope this kind of thing gets put into play as quickly as possible because there is so much potential to save lives with what we're finding out how to do within the last 5-10 years.
    Unfortunately there is just as much or more that could go wrong with things like gene therapy along with things that could go right. There is huge potential but it needs to be brought along slowly so that no more "mistakes" happen which would inevitably set the research back significantly for each instance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhinox View Post
    You're right to double take. its actually worst then his scenario. Its been well documented that Pharmaceutical companies over-price drugs and and lobby for longer patents so they can keep other companies from releasing a Generic version and in doing so contribute to the suffering and deaths of millions.
    They figure cost vs. reward. Pretty sure that's what happened with Oxycontin..codone.. They knew it was addictive but failed to inform how much so knowing that any cost incurred by lawsuits for this 'failure' on their part would be offset by the massive amounts of profit they'd receive.

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