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[Andradi]

The greatest irony is the 7% haste pants which are WAR and SAM only, considering those jobs don't even need the haste to cap and get it on their AF3 anyway.

[Fiarlia]

Anyone know the amount of Fast Cast Augur's Gaiters gives?

[FailureMidgard]

The greatest irony is the 7% haste pants which are WAR and SAM only, considering those jobs don't even need the haste to cap and get it on their AF3 anyway.

??? Sam can't cap haste unless you use a Sentinel Shield or those pants, actually. Furthermore, with a new STP trait likely at 90, and/or any additional STP at all, those will be the best pants to use without Hasso up for sure, and likely even with Hasso up (inside Abyssea for sure, outside depends on other factors/etc).

In fact, DRK can hit gear haste cap at the moment, and SAM can't. Hate to break it to ya. :/

[FailureMidgard]

Anyone know the amount of Fast Cast Augur's Gaiters gives?

1% recast, same as Loq. Didn't test exact x/1024, but 10/1024 seems like a safe enough assumption. If it follows normal patterns, that'll mean it's a 2% reduction to cast time. No way in hell I'm going to actually try to test that.

[Andradi]

??? Sam can't cap haste unless you use a Sentinel Shield or those pants, actually. Furthermore, with a new STP trait likely at 90, and/or any additional STP at all, those will be the best pants to use without Hasso up for sure, and likely even with Hasso up (inside Abyssea for sure, outside depends on other factors/etc).

In fact, DRK can hit gear haste cap at the moment, and SAM can't. Hate to break it to ya. :/

Oh, derp. I assumed SAM was drowning in haste like warrior is (I think? I don't know anymore). That's what I get for assuming.

[FailureMidgard]

Oh, derp. I assumed SAM was drowning in haste like warrior is (I think? I don't know anymore). That's what I get for assuming.

Ya, warrior can hit something crazy...I already hit 27, dropped back to Ninurta's for now, could still gain 1 on head, 1 on feet, and theoretically 2 on body (though I don't really see that as useful). Sam however hits 25 without those 7haste pants, which is of course half a percent short (and that's using Byakkos). Gaining that haste not only increases haste, but allows you to gain other stats elsewhere.

[TheDirtyHobo]

Sam can't cap haste unless you use those pants

In fact, DRK can hit gear haste cap at the moment, and SAM can't.

Pick one.

Sure, you can't hit the haste cap from gear while maintaining a 5-hit build. DRK has a hell of a time hitting the haste cap at all, and abyssea has generally shafted them all-around. Not having any 5%+ pants makes a pretty huge difference for them.

Unless I'm missing something, SAM totals up to 27% haste using 5 gear slots, DRK totals up to 26% haste using 7 gear slots. SAM gets a hell of a lot more wiggle room than DRK does.

[Andradi]

Hitting the haste cap is also kind of obtuse for DRK, rules out 3 nice chunks of STP you might need,

[TheDirtyHobo]

Hitting the haste cap is also kind of obtuse for DRK, rules out 3 nice chunks of STP you might need,

Which is the point, to hit the haste cap for DRK you HAVE TO use Timarli Jawshan, which means you're giving up 7 STP from Aurum. Saying SAM "can't" hit the haste cap because it would lower you down to a 6-hit instead of 5-hit, but then turning around and saying DRK can cap haste while completely ignoring their needs for STP is sort of a double standard.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but DRK needs 48 STP to 5-hit empyrean scythe, 39 to 5-hit any 528delay scythe. At best, that's 15 /sam, 5 rajas, 4 rose, 1 brutal, 6 tactical, 2 almah, 1 attilla's, 2 white, 6 carbonara. Technically enough to 5-hit a non-empyrean DRK, but still well short of 5-hitting empyrean, you would have to use Aurum to cap, thus putting you at 24% haste from gear.

[FailureMidgard]

Pick one.

Sure, you can't hit the haste cap from gear while maintaining a 5-hit build. DRK has a hell of a time hitting the haste cap at all, and abyssea has generally shafted them all-around. Not having any 5%+ pants makes a pretty huge difference for them.

Unless I'm missing something, SAM totals up to 27% haste using 5 gear slots, DRK totals up to 26% haste using 7 gear slots. SAM gets a hell of a lot more wiggle room than DRK does.

sorry, the reference point was in response to

The greatest irony is the 7% haste pants which are WAR and SAM only, considering those jobs don't even need the haste to cap and get it on their AF3 anyway.

I'm saying no, Sam can't even hit haste cap outside of those pants. Sorry if it was implied instead of stated...

You also left Hoard Ring off your 5hit fwiw, and Goading Belt which leaves you at 25, which is higher than Sam's 24. This isn't really worth debating, DRK should be dual-wielding, and SAM just needs any crit-hit WS :/

[psykopat]

Hi,

Not sure if that's the right place to ask and sorry if this has been asked already but well. Is it possible to proc red !! on avatars in vision zones ? I'm mainly thinking about Bhumi, I have a friend having hard time to get his last Abyssite of merit and was thinking about proccing red !! to help him.

Thx in advance.

[TheDirtyHobo]

You also left Hoard Ring off your 5hit fwiw, and Goading Belt which leaves you at 25, which is higher than Sam's 24.

In order to use either of those, you have to take a loss in haste over the 'ideal' alternative (blitz and bullwhip respectively).

But yeah, neither job is exactly drowning in haste the way WAR and MNK are, and the lack of a decent crit (2handed) WS could hurt their chances in keeping up. SAMs only saving grace right now is 5-hitting a relatively low delay weapon with near-capped haste and having far-and-away the best non-crit WS.

[TheDirtyHobo]

Hi,

Not sure if that's the right place to ask and sorry if this has been asked already but well. Is it possible to proc red !! on avatars in vision zones ? I'm mainly thinking about Bhumi, I have a friend having hard time to get his last Abyssite of merit and was thinking about proccing red !! to help him.

Thx in advance.

Yes, it's 'possible', but they die so fast that it's not worth even trying. Either just start killing as many as you can as fast as you can, or do red !! on Mictlantecuhtli instead, he's a pushover with 2 RDM/NINs and drops the same Abyssite plus a chance at Serpentes.

[psykopat]

Thx for the reply ! The problem in killing as many Bhumi as possible is to actually claim them lol ^^ They are raped hard on my server so when we get one it's better to try to proc red !!

I'll think about your idea concerning the Corse NM though ^^ Serpentes hands would be great actually.

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[lesiu]

is there any way to put "wait" in windower script file? want to make file that spam songs but "input /wait 15" dosnt work ofc. or any other way to do it. i have nothing about spellcast tho. want simple macro that looks kile this:


input /ma "Victory March" <me>;
wait 15
input /ma "Advancing March" <me>;

just copied like 500 times so i dont have to 3 box so often

[Andradi]

pause instead of wait, I think.

[lesiu]

that works thx a lot you saved me a lot of work

[gnat]

Any lowman strats for Khalkotaur in Abyssea - Vunk?

[Mrbeansman]

Optimal setup for group 2 merits on dnc? Also duo/trio strat for cuelebre?