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[Yugl]

Have you guys considered super tanking and did he not summon babies if you super tanked?

Edit: Also applies to killing all but one pet.

[Soho]

Have you guys considered super tanking and did he not summon babies if you super tanked?

We did all mine back when cap was still Lv75 man, so no, we just did it the safe way with 2x PLD or PLD and RDM tanks. And BLMs nuking out the babies.

Sorry I don't have more recent info for you, I just wanted to shed some light on the puddle thing.

[Yugl]

That's cool, thanks for clearing up the misconception.

[cdgreg]

Anyone had any experience with Observant_Zekka at 85? I know people said all box nms can be killed with rdm/nin but I'll also have an 85 thf/nin there for TH who is decently geared. Was wondering if rdm + thf duo would be better? I've never fought whether at 75 or 85 so not sure what to really worry about.

[Raen Ryong]

I'd argue 1m 30 Angon is pretty amazing for melee stuff. Normally stuff won't last that long but if you're one of the only DDs ... contrary to popular belief, you don't autocap Attack.

Soul Jump/Spirit Jump although infrequent are pretty damn nice too! Sekka from sub can pair well with Angon.

[rog]

contrary to popular belief, you don't autocap Attack.

With red curry, stalwar's, etc, i usually hit 900+ atk without bersekf. Just sayin'.

[Buffy]

Hope this doesn't double post. Read my post above hers. I went 0-60 off gold nuggets then 60-70 off platinum (long time ago) There was no cap as she said, but I was under the impression that larger level gap = more impurities during feeding. More impurities = more explosions. More explosions = less time feeding. Less time feeding = less skill ups.

Absolutely correct about the explosions. I used haste and stoneskin. I did it over the course of a month or so, got 70 about 3 weeks ago. To be clear, I went from 0-70 off Platinum nuggets recipe since the last update.

[cdgreg]

Absolutely correct about the explosions. I used haste and stoneskin. I did it over the course of a month or so, got 70 about 3 weeks ago. To be clear, I went from 0-70 off Platinum nuggets recipe since the last update.

Can we skill past 70? Wiki has new bodies at 70+, but 70 is still blue under my craft skills.

[jimbobsonofgod]

Can we skill past 70? Wiki has new bodies at 70+, but 70 is still blue under my craft skills.

Its capped at 70

[Raen Ryong]

With red curry, stalwar's, etc, i usually hit 900+ atk without bersekf. Just sayin'.

How did I forget about Stalwarts ;o I don't remember it being that potent though - probably is however. Okay, ignore that point largely outside of niches.

[Khajit]

WHy arent people considering kraken rng in that listing? Empyrian is ok for making the order but a kclub isnt?

[Yugl]

WHy arent people considering kraken rng in that listing? Empyrian is ok for making the order but a kclub isnt?

It takes skill and talent to own a Kraken club.

[FailureMidgard]

22% haste before legs means you're better off using koga actually.

Before legs, you have 50% dw (assuming wiki is right about head being 5% dw). 5 more is .5/.45=1.111

22% haste, plus 22% march, 15% haste is 59%. .41/.38=1.079

Hardly even close, assuming capped acc, and ddex, and ignoring the lower tp/hit.

This isn't exactly an accurate answer...for 1, you're at 222/1024, meaning 21.6, standing to gain 34/1024 haste, or 3.32%, .4132/.38=1.087. Obviously this is still lower than your #, but as you already mentioning this is assuming capped acc/attack/ddex, and ignoring TP loss per hit from DW, -hp, and -storetp, and the ability to gain counter when tanking. K, I added some things to it, but your statement was ignoring the fact you can switch Bullwhip to Goading, drop the neck for a variety of options, and gain Katana skill, set bonus, and counter on legs.

Honestly, don't think Koga is worth the inventory space, but if you want to use one of the things Dooom mentioned, I could see it I guess.

[rog]

How did I forget about Stalwarts ;o I don't remember it being that potent though - probably is however. Okay, ignore that point largely outside of niches.

Well, i tp in something like 180 str, which is 135 atk. skill is 347 with merits. Gear adds another 55 atk, and traits are 10. That's a total of 547 already. Curry adds 150, which is 697. I usually have march+minuet, since i pretty much only use war for cleaves, so that's up to 763, before stalwars. Can't check exactly how much stalwarts is, since my computer isn't working atm, but i'm pretty sure it brings me into the low/mid 900s, and i always have it up. I don't even use berserk usually, since 1150 atk is rather pointless.

It's really not that hard to cap atk.

[Myrrh_Quetz]

What's a Fell Cleaveable mob in Abyssea Kon?

[Aerynlia]

Saplings won't give ruby.

[Khajit]

It takes skill and talent to own a Kraken club.

Also i have to be honest with you guys. that listing forgot brd since even brd is probably a better DD than drk and sam atm if the rare parties i give my brd are any indication.

[ikariiiii]

Anyone had any experience with Observant_Zekka at 85? I know people said all box nms can be killed with rdm/nin but I'll also have an 85 thf/nin there for TH who is decently geared. Was wondering if rdm + thf duo would be better? I've never fought whether at 75 or 85 so not sure what to really worry about.

bring lots of echo drops, and be prepared for a pretty annoying yet relatively easy fight. meleeing it increases frequency of annoying imp moves (only uses silencega/amnesia), so i'd stick to dots and nukes. he randomly changes to a reflect attack type, which is easy to deal with as long as you keep an eye on shadows- it will eventually turn off without notice and you can resume normal nukes. best bet for your first try is to bring a second rdm/nin, makes it beyond easy.

[FailureMidgard]

Also i have to be honest with you guys. that listing forgot brd since even brd is probably a better DD than drk and sam atm if the rare parties i give my brd are any indication.

Sorry if I'm getting whooshed, but this is the dumbest thing I've read all day.

[Guitarman]

Sorry if I'm getting whooshed, but this is the dumbest thing I've read all day.

better be.

http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/c...114_001125.jpg

There's a ton of gimpshit drk and sam out there. This is nothing new.