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  1. #1321
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    not sure if serious...

  2. #1322
    RIDE ARMOR
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    Sorry for noob question, but yeah, it was a serious question

  3. #1323
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    Mainhand TK, drop Rapidus.

  4. #1324
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    put th on the mob then wear a real weapon after.

  5. #1325
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    Thanks for the replies. I just always used THF+Sirocco until now. Always assumed you wear the lower delay weapon offhand. But now that my lower delay weapon has higher dmg, I was confused. Cheers~

  6. #1326
    I'm more gentle than I look.
    Mr. Feathers AKA Mr. Striations
    All hail Lord Yamcha

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    Speaking of wardrobe. Anyone, have updated lists for gear? My auto updater isn't working, before anyone suggests that, lol.

  7. #1327
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    No, you're not supposed to use either of those, since they both suck.

    Oh, there was another page...

  8. #1328
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seoin View Post
    Thanks for the replies. I just always used THF+Sirocco until now. Always assumed you wear the lower delay weapon offhand. But now that my lower delay weapon has higher dmg, I was confused. Cheers~
    Delay doesn't matter. Main hand the highest damage weapon, unless there's something more important (ie dual wielding two different weapon types, or at 75 using senj/fudo on nin, the crit+ outweighed the extra D1 on fudo for jin, etc).

  9. #1329
    An exploitable mess of a card game
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    Do I need to use Savant Legs+1 when I use Parsimony, start the cast, or land the spell?

  10. #1330
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    Has to be on when you end the spell

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    Is storms of fate soloable?

  12. #1332
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    Quote Originally Posted by rog View Post
    Yeah, i guess it's hard to look allllll the way down to the second link. As with all of wiccaan's non olde programs, it doesn't need any memlocs, and will never break.
    The download isn't available to anyone who isn't registered on their forums. I also already had v3, hence the request for a memloc or the program itself -- either would have been acceptable.

    Cream's already given me a link, though, so I'm good. Thanks, Mr. Soda.

  13. #1333
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kohan View Post
    The download isn't available to anyone who isn't registered on their forums. I also already had v3, hence the request for a memloc or the program itself -- either would have been acceptable.
    Oh, i guess to be fair, it is pretty hard to register.

  14. #1334
    Graduate of the BG School of FFXI
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    I'm dropping my Bushi for a suppa. Whats the bare minimum needed to do DM given the current state of things?

  15. #1335
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coolbeans View Post
    I'm dropping my Bushi for a suppa. Whats the bare minimum needed to do DM given the current state of things?
    2war 1smn?

  16. #1336
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coolbeans View Post
    I'm dropping my Bushi for a suppa. Whats the bare minimum needed to do DM given the current state of things?
    we did 6 war 2 smn (1 with alex, other just dd) 1 drk (i don't have war:/). won in 5 minutes 0 sec. could do with half that probably. cleaved the shit out of all of em.

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    a "timeout error in the card authentification process" when trying to change CC information is a problem on SE's side, isnt it?

  18. #1338
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    So, the safest lowman Cleave-like setup I can think of would be DNC + BRD using Aeolian Edge with Razed Ruins / Atma of Gales. Fan Dance (and evasion gear) before Aeolian Edge, Horde Lullaby after. You should be able to consistently break 1k (huge AoE) and do it on any target because it won't mess up your lights. Could use RDM/BLM/SCH for Azure generation purposes, but it would be better to have them change to BRD/WHM for double March + Haste and Horde.

    Assuming the wiki mods and formula is approximately correct (and that alpha applies to magic WSs, which isn't specified):
    ((90+2+(200*.3+150*.3)*.85)*2.75+(16+150-80)/2)*MAB*1.4 = Damage

    Including two MAB dagger, Novio, Moldy, Ugg Pendant, Denali legs, you would have 41 MAB. That would give you 1084 damage + Ascetic's whenever you have it, which would likely be frequently if you're doing this right.

    Costs:
    Fell Cleave does more damage
    You don't Retaliate, so you get TP much slower. Often on WAR I find myself back over 100TP just from Retaliations after a Cleave.

    Benefits:
    Fan Dance and ridiculous Evasion make Dancer much more durable than Warrior, so it requires much less support.
    You can Aeolian Edge burn any type of monster because it makes Amber.

    In a situation with support, obviously it would be better to use Fell Cleave. If you were duofarming gold boxes with a friend, it seems like this might be the best way to do it.

  19. #1339
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guitarman View Post
    a "timeout error in the card authentification process" when trying to change CC information is a problem on SE's side, isnt it?
    It's that time of the month.

  20. #1340
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    Quote Originally Posted by Byrthnoth View Post
    So, the safest lowman Cleave-like setup I can think of would be DNC + BRD using Aeolian Edge with Razed Ruins / Atma of Gales. Fan Dance (and evasion gear) before Aeolian Edge, Horde Lullaby after. You should be able to consistently break 1k (huge AoE) and do it on any target because it won't mess up your lights. Could use RDM/BLM/SCH for Azure generation purposes, but it would be better to have them change to BRD/WHM for double March + Haste and Horde.

    Assuming the wiki mods and formula is approximately correct (and that alpha applies to magic WSs, which isn't specified):
    ((90+2+(200*.3+150*.3)*.85)*2.75+(16+150-80)/2)*MAB*1.4 = Damage

    Including two MAB dagger, Novio, Moldy, Ugg Pendant, Denali legs, you would have 41 MAB. That would give you 1084 damage + Ascetic's whenever you have it, which would likely be frequently if you're doing this right.

    Costs:
    Fell Cleave does more damage
    You don't Retaliate, so you get TP much slower. Often on WAR I find myself back over 100TP just from Retaliations after a Cleave.

    Benefits:
    Fan Dance and ridiculous Evasion make Dancer much more durable than Warrior, so it requires much less support.
    You can Aeolian Edge burn any type of monster because it makes Amber.

    In a situation with support, obviously it would be better to use Fell Cleave. If you were duofarming gold boxes with a friend, it seems like this might be the best way to do it.
    I wonder how BLU could manage with some AOE farming. They have a ton of AOE Damage, Stuns, and Debuffs and finally enough MP recovery to really spam them, plus they still have the capacity to negate a ton of damage with Cocoon and a PDT set for the times when mobs are actually swinging (between said stuns and Flashes and whatnot). I think I might look into making a build for this...

    The only problem is that we can't really cover Amber lights with this setup solo, so we'd still need someone to cover something like Aeolian or Cleave. RDM as the duo partner could possibly cover the WS while lending a PhalanxII to the BLU tanking. Hmmm...

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