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[Nightfyre]

Merciless: crit pDIF can go below 3.0. Look at the pDIF min function. fSTR min is not a factor, contrary to previous post.

[Skeelo]

So sac puller aggros a cluster of mobs, party pulls the NM off... and down the stairs.... rinse, repeat? Ignore the lesser mobs, and kill the big blobs?

Yes make sure the sac puller is not in the party though, they have party/alliance hate. After sac puller dies have him Reraise and guard the door you guys are fighting by incase mini's come after you. Sometimes they will randomly aggro.

[ronin sparthos]

Couple of other WoE questions...

Wiki said something about not needing to sac pull anymore after the Sept. Update... how true is this?

What is the drop rate on coins of advancement from regular? If I kill a mob in a small party, will it go to my party's loot pool, or to a public loot pool?

Is it "bad form" to jump on a mob being fought by another group already, or is it generally accepted as fair game?

Can like MNK and WHM duo much worthwhile in WoE? If not, what about adding a DNC and/or RDM?

You still need a sac in WoE to stop any mobs you cant handle from reaching your group.

MNK + WHM can effectively "farm" small mobs in 1 + 3 if you have a sac to deagro any extra mobs you have. In Crabs, just move away from the DP if any bosses come down and use your sac to agro and send it back upstairs. You can pick off small crabs without an issue this way.

For Antlions it's more of the same except they don't sit on the DP. The bosses will walk to the DP and then U-turn so you can just grab one at a time and farm until your kicked that way.

Coin drops seem to all have the same rate. The only "rule" of fair play in WoE is to only lot one type of coin that drops in any PUG groups. Well that and knowing how the DPs work to avoid MPKing people with patrol mobs.

[Humblejoe]

I just upped BST via Abyssea, and it's currently lvl 79. I'm not sure what to do for tier 2 merits, can someone shed some light on me as to whats worth it and not worth it?

[Skeelo]

Does Turul turn when he uses Feral peck? Regular amphiteres dont but just want to be prepared. Gonna try to 3 man it and dont need any fun surprises.

[Plow]

I just upped BST via Abyssea, and it's currently lvl 79. I'm not sure what to do for tier 2 merits, can someone shed some light on me as to whats worth it and not worth it?

It seemed pretty clear to me that while the new pets aren't capped below 85, it was somewhat obvious when they'd spawn 83ish instead of 85, so I maxed out affinity and have noticed their strength seems much more consistent.

Other than that they all seem pretty trash, really.

[Francisco]

You still need a sac in WoE to stop any mobs you cant handle from reaching your group.

MNK + WHM can effectively "farm" small mobs in 1 + 3 if you have a sac to deagro any extra mobs you have. In Crabs, just move away from the DP if any bosses come down and use your sac to agro and send it back upstairs. You can pick off small crabs without an issue this way.

For Antlions it's more of the same except they don't sit on the DP. The bosses will walk to the DP and then U-turn so you can just grab one at a time and farm until your kicked that way.

Coin drops seem to all have the same rate. The only "rule" of fair play in WoE is to only lot one type of coin that drops in any PUG groups. Well that and knowing how the DPs work to avoid MPKing people with patrol mobs.

I feel like a failtard asking, but what do you mean by DP?

Just messed around a bit w/ MNK, WHM, DNC, BLM.. killed an antlion, aggroed and died to a megaboss, got up and killed more antlions... they just started coming to us... had the BLM kite while we killed whatever we were fighting. No coins though.

[Aerynlia]

Death point

Edit: Patrol mobs will run to the spot of wherever you killed the last one, it's smart to fight at say the bottom of the stairs in slimes, then hide at the conflux, if you are only doing big blobs.

[jimbobsonofgod]

I just upped BST via Abyssea, and it's currently lvl 79. I'm not sure what to do for tier 2 merits, can someone shed some light on me as to whats worth it and not worth it?

5/5 reward recast
5/5 call beast recast cast

5/5 beast affinity
5/5 beast healer
is what i did.

[Kidnoftle]

Does Turul turn when he uses Feral peck? Regular amphiteres dont but just want to be prepared. Gonna try to 3 man it and dont need any fun surprises.

Feral peck is hate reset afaik so that's why it turns. If you are using a whm to heal you getting hate back should take all of 1 voke or one ws

[Skeelo]

Feral peck is hate reset afaik so that's why it turns. If you are using a whm to heal you getting hate back should take all of 1 voke or one ws

Well i mean if you tank it from the side/back, will it turn to hit you with feral peck since its conal? Amphiteres in xarc S will use it but wont turn to hit you with it so it just wouldnt do anything. Wondering if these do the same thing or if they turn THEN do feral peck.

[Humblejoe]

Thanks guys

[Thorny]

Don't recall on Feral Peck, but Turul's Reaving Wind is hate reset.

[FailureMidgard]

Don't recall on Feral Peck, but Turul's Reaving Wind is hate reset.

It is, it's turned off our dnc with Fan Dance up taking some 400 dmg only, never seen it stay on it's target after. It's also stunable if you're fast. But ya, wind is also.

[dem0nfr0g]

Do the Ephemeral mobs in Abyssea - Kon/Tah/LTP give extra lights like in the newer zones?

[rog]

From the last page:

From every page in the last 2 threads: Yes.

[JigglyJam]

Quit for FFXIV, was disappointed, starting ffxi over and I haven't done a huge amount of leveling yet. I'm trying to come up with what jobs I should level. Was thinking DNC and BLM. I want to play DNC to cap but the second job is kind of still up in the air. What job would best complement DNC? Of course, I don't think I'll limit myself to only two jobs for the rest of my ffxi duration.

Also, I'm assuming viable support jobs for DNC would be NIN, SAM, and WAR? I took MNK to 10 for leveling 1-20.

[Gynin]

Fresh 85 SAM with the weak gear you'd expect. Which Keitonotachi is worth more in the long haul? WS DMG or sTP?

[buddha_masta]

Melee Gaiters enhance Counterstance.. does it have to be equipped for the duration of Counterstance for the bonus to take effect, or only at the moment of activation?

On a side note, there was a thread dedicated to these kinds of items and effects/triggers, anyone have that old link?

[FailureMidgard]

Fresh 85 SAM with the weak gear you'd expect. Which Keitonotachi is worth more in the long haul? WS DMG or sTP?

WS Dmg in the end...can 5hit pretty easily already without the storeTP...but 5hitting the storetp 1 earlier will be a better boost. Also, who knows what will happen next patch, potential 4hit vs so much overflow StoreTP you don't know what to do. Personally if I didn't have better GKs though, I'd do WSdmg.