Atma Effects & Discussion

[Hanyoko]

Well the "Major" was in the english la Theine dialogs (where the bg-wiki listing was extracted from). Could see if its the same in all 10 zones. Its possible the .dat is wrong for it (happened in the past). Someone might want to test just it by itself.

[Kurgan]

He had the title. Is there just a ??? after killing DL or did he literally have to check the Trail Markings again? I'll ask him tomorrow if he did everything.

Both. There is a ??? after killing Dynamis Lord that gives you a key item, and there is a cut scene triggered for checking the trail markings outside afterwards.

It seems a lot of atma are based on your previous titles achieved. There are two different titles for Dyna-Xarc and DL:
Dynamis Lord kill gives title "Lifter of Shadows"
Dynamis - Xarcabard clear (checking trail markings) gives title "Dynamis-Xarcabard Interloper"

[Massimo]

I'm getting 93~94% crit rate with RR, GH and DD. Adding Jupiter's did not boost it. Possibly just capped at 95%?

477 crits
35 hits

total.

[Cream Soda]

That'd confirm the mistranslation.

74% w/ GH, 94% w/ both would put it to 20% crits

[Massimo]

It can still be 30 though. The fact that Jupiter's Staff didn't boost the crit rate further, points towards a cap having been hit. I'll test DD a bit later if no one else bothered to.

[Eldelphia]

Did your friend examine the Trail Markings after defeating DL for the cut scene and "Dynamis - Xarcabard Interloper" title?

I didn't get the final CS, but I had the Xarc interloper title and I got the Atma.

[Phoenyx]

defeated tiamat? What wyrm have you fought?

Only wyrms I have fought and killed are Fafnir and Ouryu for PM4-2. I have not done Ouryu Cometh.

[Byrthnoth]

Didn't they change Razed Ruins and Gnarled Horns descriptions? It may not be incorrect anymore, could be (Superior=30%, Major=20%, Minor=10%).

There may be a 95% crit rate cap from gear/atma (Rogue's Roll during Kirschy's test?)

[Cream Soda]

It can still be 30 though. The fact that Jupiter's Staff didn't boost the crit rate further, points towards a cap having been hit. I'll test DD a bit later if no one else bothered to.

Def not 30%. 74% after almost 700 attacks.

[Cream Soda]

Didn't they change Razed Ruins and Gnarled Horns descriptions? It may not be incorrect anymore, could be (Superior=30%, Major=20%, Minor=10%).

There may be a 95% crit rate cap from gear/atma (Rogue's Roll during Kirschy's test?)

GH is definitely 20

[Byrthnoth]

GH is definitely 20

Is GH still "minor" though? Its description was changed.

[Kirschy]

Didn't they change Razed Ruins and Gnarled Horns descriptions? It may not be incorrect anymore, could be (Superior=30%, Major=20%, Minor=10%).

There may be a 95% crit rate cap from gear/atma (Rogue's Roll during Kirschy's test?)

The test was technicalli done in two parts. The first part had lucky roll on crit putting me over 100%, and I had 100% crit rate over 80ish hits? The second part had a lower roll, and should have put me at 96% which is mostly what I got. (I forget if I explained it in my post.) There would need to be a large sample size to prove it's 100% for sure, but it seems likely there's no cap on total crit rate from what I saw.

It's interesting that using 3x crit atmas brings you up to ~95% and that Jupiter's Staff won't bring you over. The last test would be to have someone use Rouge's Roll on you. If you hit 100% crit, that means the Atma/Eq have their own crit rate cap. If you're still at 95% crit rate then there IS an overall crit rate cap at ~95%.

[Cream Soda]

I'll go put on all 3 and destroyers in a bit fuck around on mnk. Still need bhumi anyway

[Massimo]

Alright. Just tested this with Rogue's roll. Lucky roll with a THF in the party to make sure it's capped. 171 crits, 9 hits = 95%.

95% is definitely the crit cap.

[NynJa]

Just throwing this out there...Kirschy's tests were done before Dec 6 patch, and all this is after the patch. Perhaps they ninja'd a crit hit rate cap in after realizing its doable to go over 100%?

[Hanyoko]

Dats list the following for crit hit rate:
Thrashing Tendrils: Minor
Gnarled Horn : Major
Razed Ruins : Superior
Scorpion Queen: Minor
Dark Depths: Major

So yea, either a ninja cap or mislabel

I would almost go with DD being a Minor as most of the other synthetic only have minor effects with a few exceptions.

[Massimo]

Dats list the following for crit hit rate:
Thrashing Tendrils: Minor
Gnarled Horn : Major
Razed Ruins : Superior
Scorpion Queen: Minor
Dark Depths: Major

So yea, either a ninja cap or mislabel

I would almost go with DD being a Minor as most of the other synthetic only have minor effects with a few exceptions.

Cream Soda just tested DD to be 20% like 8 posts up, which matches Gnarled Horns (20% - both major). I thought it was labeled the same as RR for some reason, hence the confusion earlier.

[Cream Soda]

9 coins away from rev fists+1.

Mnk already 90, but man gonna make ppl shit brix when I lv pup 85-90 w/ crit atma x3

Edit: Well w/ impetus, overshooting on crit rate. Prolly use VV or Alphaomega

[Michelob]

Having Fafnir or Nidhogg title gives the Dragon Rider atma as far as I can tell. I'm pretty sure that Hybrid Beast comes from having any ToAU HNM title (Cerb, Khim, or Hydra).

[seiji]

Having Fafnir or Nidhogg title gives the Dragon Rider atma as far as I can tell. I'm pretty sure that Hybrid Beast comes from having any ToAU HNM title (Cerb, Khim, or Hydra).

disagree on first part since I have dragon rider and never killed faf/nid. Have killed all Battlefield wyrm, only world pop i killed is jormy
Ok on 2nd part ( atma and hydra title)