Atma Effects & Discussion

[Phraust]

Quick test on BLM/WHM with Ambition atma (Fast Cast minor) gave 58 second recast, from what I can understand about recast time calculation it is somewhere between 1.8 and 3.5% recast reduction so ~5% fast cast for minor?

Thanks, that's a little ray of hope that it's not fail. What was the spell you used to test?

Anyone with Matriarch test yet?

[Byrthnoth]

I'd like to propose 10% Triple Attack for Atma of the Apocalypse. Anyone have any counteroffers?

[rog]

I did a quick test and got 15%, but it was only like 140 samples, so obviously it could be way off.

[Not Kuno]

Got Roaring Laughter as soon as I completed Espionage II. Didn't do Zazarg's quest yet but it is available, and didn't do Moogles yet either.

[Hayguyz]

Got Roaring Laughter as soon as I completed Espionage II. Didn't do Zazarg's quest yet but it is available, and didn't do Moogles yet either.

What other quests have you done out of interest? I've done both Espionage I & II and the fabricant still won't offer me RL.

[Jimothy]

Oh yeah forgot to mention used reraise, 60 second base recast.

[Not Kuno]

What other quests have you done out of interest? I've done both Espionage I & II and the fabricant still won't offer me RL.

I've done all of them but the moogle and zazargs.

[Hayguyz]

Ok got it now, did Boreal Blossom and fabricant gave me it, thanks.

[Malacite]

wee calmed down somewhat, catching up on atma discussion... LOL @ ppl who can't grasp the concept of AUTOMATIC RERAISE!

Good grief. Were they trolling or ?

Also anyone figure the proc rate on Quick Magic yet? I heard it's not 100% but it does give insta-cast (not sure how it affects recasts).


I've been mulling over the various Atma and it actually really does seem like DD BRD is viable in Abyssea. Twilight Knife (since Rudra's doesn't crit on its own and should be left to THF & DNC) in main OA2~4 dagger in offhand for TP with Razed Ruins & Merciless Matriarch, just can't seem to figure what would be the best for 3rd Atma slot. I was thinking Deep Devourer but between MM's superior Fast Cast & AF3 you should be hitting the 50% cap. Main reason I bring this up is because BRD gets dull and well and with RR up you can actually contribute to the killing while maintaining buffs so why not go for it?

[Cream Soda]

Does winged gloom protect against doom or just the actual spell death?

[Yugl]

wee calmed down somewhat, catching up on atma discussion... LOL @ ppl who can't grasp the concept of AUTOMATIC RERAISE!

Good grief. Were they trolling or ?

Also anyone figure the proc rate on Quick Magic yet? I heard it's not 100% but it does give insta-cast (not sure how it affects recasts).


I've been mulling over the various Atma and it actually really does seem like DD BRD is viable in Abyssea. Twilight Knife (since Rudra's doesn't crit on its own and should be left to THF & DNC) in main OA2~4 dagger in offhand for TP with Razed Ruins & Merciless Matriarch, just can't seem to figure what would be the best for 3rd Atma slot. I was thinking Deep Devourer but between MM's superior Fast Cast & AF3 you should be hitting the 50% cap. Main reason I bring this up is because BRD gets dull and well and with RR up you can actually contribute to the killing while maintaining buffs so why not go for it?

Quick cast is 95% Fast Cast (It was mentioned earlier). Also, what's the difference between "actually seems like DD BRD is viable" and "actually really does seem like DD BRD is viable"?

[barber2006]

I've done all of them but the moogle and zazargs.

I've only done the snoll, both espionage, and triggered zazarg. Still nothing. I'll do the others in short order and maybe can get the exact requirements narrowed down.

[Hayguyz]

I've only done the snoll, both espionage, and triggered zazarg. Still nothing. I'll do the others in short order and maybe can get the exact requirements narrowed down.

Did all the above, man eating mite, let there be light, all the OPs and couldn't get it. Finished Boreal Blossom earlier and it was in the NPC list.

[Khidir]

Proc rate on aquatic ardor?

When i got it inside abbsyea grauberg and used it on zone boss it proc'd once or twice(maybe more was focused on watching moves) for magic (using smn pets)

tried using it on blu inside attowha versus berstuk and slugs and not a single proc on either magic or physical and I got hit a lot more times in attowha that i can count than on pets for the boss that day


the above arent considered test samples but I'm thinking the proc rate is very low like shadow mantle low on each absorb or something is wrong

I'll test it a bit more but does anyone have more consistent data?

[Khajit]

wee calmed down somewhat, catching up on atma discussion... LOL @ ppl who can't grasp the concept of AUTOMATIC RERAISE!

Good grief. Were they trolling or ?

Also anyone figure the proc rate on Quick Magic yet? I heard it's not 100% but it does give insta-cast (not sure how it affects recasts).


I've been mulling over the various Atma and it actually really does seem like DD BRD is viable in Abyssea. Twilight Knife (since Rudra's doesn't crit on its own and should be left to THF & DNC) in main OA2~4 dagger in offhand for TP with Razed Ruins & Merciless Matriarch, just can't seem to figure what would be the best for 3rd Atma slot. I was thinking Deep Devourer but between MM's superior Fast Cast & AF3 you should be hitting the 50% cap. Main reason I bring this up is because BRD gets dull and well and with RR up you can actually contribute to the killing while maintaining buffs so why not go for it?

I've been outdding people for the last 4+ months on my brd mule. you're late.

[Khidir]

atma and buffs opened the way for a lot of things friend outparsed most dds using rdm and evis with rr atma and heavens most of the dd didnt have rr

[barber2006]

Finally got it. Here's the order I did the quests in. I think it might be a total number of unique quests/ops.

1) Man Eating Mite
2) 9999 Bluffalo Dominion Ops
3) Frozen Flame Redux (several times)
4) Let there be light
5) Boreal Blossom
6) Imperial Espionage
7) More Frozen Flame because I was close to finishing blm hands.
8) Opened Zazarg and Moogle quests (have not completed)
9) Scouts Astray
10) Look out Below
11) Imperial Espionage 2
12) Slip Sliding Away (this is all quests other than moogle and zazarg completed at this point)

At this point I still could not get it. I then did all the OPs at conflux 5 (other than the buffalo which I had already spammed so 3 new ops). It still wasn't there. I then did all the OPs at conflux 7 (5 total ops there). Afterwards it was available to me.

So it's some combination of ops/quests since some are getting it after doing a specific quest and others after ops. It may be certain ops, may just be total ops/quest etc. Whatever the case is it takes forever.

[FailureMidgard]

I've been outdding people for the last 4+ months on my brd mule. you're late.

This is -still- not evidence of it being good. I outdamaged an entire alliance on my 80 DRK using Scythe of Trials like 2 weeks before Heroes came out. I guarantee you DRK + Scythe of Trials is not good damage.

[Khajit]

Eh not my fault most players in this game are pathetic. It gives me something to do that makes me not bored to death.
It's good enough that i wouldn't stop a person properly geared from from meleeing anymore than id tell a drk not to melee.

[Sylvrdragon]

Quick cast is 95% Fast Cast (It was mentioned earlier). Also, what's the difference between "actually seems like DD BRD is viable" and "actually really does seem like DD BRD is viable"?

The difference is that one would be posted by a retard.