Atma Effects & Discussion

[Randorn]

ToM Axes?

Also, ferine quijotes and job trait stout servant should add about -8% pdt

[Xilk]

Shucks... I guess there are so few active BST on BG. This topic has been discussed to death by BST on alla for the last 2 months.

Atma of the Lion 10% -pdt
Atma of the Zenith 10% -dt
Atma of heavens 10% -pdt
Atma of the Winged Gloom 30% -dt
Atma of the Ducal Guard 50% -dt
Atma of Tremors ??% -dt
Atma of the Earth Wyrm ??%

the last 2 have few reports. both have been used but neither tested for exact numbers. it was clear they were less than 10% so they were less desirable for pet damage reduction sets.

Did anyone do more extensive testing on Summoner? They said they were only getting about 87% after they nerfed SMN Ducal Guard usage. did they try using more than just Ducal Guard?
I didn't think the problem was that smn gets 100% -pdt (although that is pretty broken since smn pet will be immune to a magical element also) but that ducal guard was activating at 100% hp instead of 50% hp, also they could accomplish 100% -pdt and huge -mdt from a single atma.

Frankly BST can get 100% -mdt and 100% -pdt on PET but the downside REALLY sux to doing that. (yeah you can solo alot of stuff, but your damage SUX and it takes forever. but you can hold most any NM forever. DoT's like poison, dia, bio still proc.

[Amok]

Does Ducal guard activate for BST pets at 100% or 50%?

[Scizor]

50% for BST pets

[Lyramion]

Whats the current concusion on Atma of the Winged Gloom? Activates bewteen 25 and 75%? Activates at 100% HP igrnoring Cruor HP?

[Xilk]

50% for BST pets

ducal guard is a bit glitched still. usually 50% but I've seen/heard several reports of it activating around 65% hp. I saw this several times while trying to solo Hedjedjet. (solo possible but boring/expensive. I haven't soloed only because I got a smn to help from 50%hp down)

Winged Gloom will activate at 100% hp. you and pet both get 30 damage / tic.

However, if you put on cruor buffs it will not activate on you, but it will still be active on pet. IF your hp drops down to your non-cruor-buffed hp levels, it will activate on you as well. It's a royal pain trying to get 3k+ of galka bst hp back up so you don't take the slip damage anymore.

I recommend a regen atma to counteract it. Mounted Champion is the most reliable. 10/tic is much more manageable than 30/tic. It makes it easy to keep hitting pethpp macro and toss a pet food if you drop down to 25% pet hp. Zeta will often kick pet hp back up over 50% or pretty close.

I've held Amorok, Orthrus, Isgebind and Shinryu this way in a low man while someone else would proc WS's. It really isn't needed for Isgebind or Amorok. Probably not for Orthrus either. Its certainly handy for Shinryu farming, or Rani or Raja. Or for the first time to you take on an NM. You can challenge most any NM without being sure about your setup or worrying about losing/wasting your trigger set. BST ensure's you won't lose claim or have a full wipe. Quite handy for low-man or zombie'ing. Its not an ideal approach to most NM's but it works.

It won't work for something like Chillwing Hwitti or something w/ a very potent DoT aura.

[Fiendishone]

1 Atma short for Savior. Goblin Gunpowder is the cockblock . . .0/30+, even with TH/blue proc/etc. Shit is pissing me off.

Anyone who's gotten the Gunpowder have any tips/hints/suggestions? Or is it just that shitty of a drop rate?

[reaper1228]

It is a pretty shitty drop rate but 0/30+ is a bit unheard of. When I did it with my ls, due to the low drop rate, we just killed the goblin as fast as possible to get as many pops killed in as short of a time as possible. I think in the end we went 15/50-60~.

[ronin sparthos]

1 Atma short for Savior. Goblin Gunpowder is the cockblock . . .0/30+, even with TH/blue proc/etc. Shit is pissing me off.

Anyone who's gotten the Gunpowder have any tips/hints/suggestions? Or is it just that shitty of a drop rate?

Sounds like horrible luck. At the most I had to kill the T1 gob twice for the gunpowder at 3 runs of the T2 >.>

Pretty sure if any !! affected the gunpowder it'd be yellow anyway.

[grevenilvec75]

1 Atma short for Savior. Goblin Gunpowder is the cockblock . . .0/30+, even with TH/blue proc/etc. Shit is pissing me off.

Anyone who's gotten the Gunpowder have any tips/hints/suggestions? Or is it just that shitty of a drop rate?

Worst we had was 0/10ish you just unlucky. Procs dont help

[Scizor]

ducal guard is a bit glitched still. usually 50% but I've seen/heard several reports of it activating around 65% hp. I saw this several times while trying to solo Hedjedjet. (solo possible but boring/expensive. I haven't soloed only because I got a smn to help from 50%hp down)

Winged Gloom will activate at 100% hp. you and pet both get 30 damage / tic.

However, if you put on cruor buffs it will not activate on you, but it will still be active on pet. IF your hp drops down to your non-cruor-buffed hp levels, it will activate on you as well. It's a royal pain trying to get 3k+ of galka bst hp back up so you don't take the slip damage anymore.

I recommend a regen atma to counteract it. Mounted Champion is the most reliable. 10/tic is much more manageable than 30/tic. It makes it easy to keep hitting pethpp macro and toss a pet food if you drop down to 25% pet hp. Zeta will often kick pet hp back up over 50% or pretty close.

I've held Amorok, Orthrus, Isgebind and Shinryu this way in a low man while someone else would proc WS's. It really isn't needed for Isgebind or Amorok. Probably not for Orthrus either. Its certainly handy for Shinryu farming, or Rani or Raja. Or for the first time to you take on an NM. You can challenge most any NM without being sure about your setup or worrying about losing/wasting your trigger set. BST ensure's you won't lose claim or have a full wipe. Quite handy for low-man or zombie'ing. Its not an ideal approach to most NM's but it works.

It won't work for something like Chillwing Hwitti or something w/ a very potent DoT aura.

Alot of good info, thanks for sharing! I don't know if its just me but Ducal Guard sometimes didn't kick in until my pet was sitting between 45-49%(no regen atams or dot inflicted) anyone else seen this occur?

[Fiendishone]

While solo'n the Gob that drops the gunpowder one day, I ended up joining a group that was farming it as well (they ended up going 2/3 on the drop, so much hate after my 0/30+) and then we killed the T2 gob for atma so finally got Savior.

And I gotta say, it's a really nice atma for my PLD while doing skill ups lol
The proc rate on the "occasionally absorbs physical damage taken" wasn't as bad as I would have thought. Several times this happened:
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m...viorprocX3.png
Also would absorb physical tp moves as well (in this case Electrocharge or whatever tp move it is they use).
Highest absorb I had was 170hp (assumed it was from a crit hit).
I'll have to do some more testing on higher tier mobs & NM's as well, plus I'm curious about how well the "resistance to status ailments" works.

P.S. also have a question about ace angler atma as to what pre-requisites are needed for it. I've heard either the Lu Shang's quest or get your fishing skill up to be able to do the Inside the Belly quest.

[cdgreg]

P.S. also have a question about ace angler atma as to what pre-requisites are needed for it. I've heard either the Lu Shang's quest or get your fishing skill up to be able to do the Inside the Belly quest.

Not the Lu quest, never did it on my main and I had access to atma.

[Limlight]

While solo'n the Gob that drops the gunpowder one day, I ended up joining a group that was farming it as well (they ended up going 2/3 on the drop, so much hate after my 0/30+) and then we killed the T2 gob for atma so finally got Savior.

And I gotta say, it's a really nice atma for my PLD while doing skill ups lol
The proc rate on the "occasionally absorbs physical damage taken" wasn't as bad as I would have thought. Several times this happened:
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m...viorprocX3.png
Also would absorb physical tp moves as well (in this case Electrocharge or whatever tp move it is they use).
Highest absorb I had was 170hp (assumed it was from a crit hit).
I'll have to do some more testing on higher tier mobs & NM's as well, plus I'm curious about how well the "resistance to status ailments" works.

P.S. also have a question about ace angler atma as to what pre-requisites are needed for it. I've heard either the Lu Shang's quest or get your fishing skill up to be able to do the Inside the Belly quest.

grats fiend, glad we could help

[Henihhi]

For the ace angler atma, it is doing the inside the belly quest i think. You have to turn in a silver shark for the "Lu Shang like fisherman"title is what someone said, but i had already done it years ago and atma was there for me when i entered abyssea. It may just be any of the inside the belly quests though.

[Amok]

I did inside the belly with marlins only so (far for pirate's chart) and I didn't have Ace Angler. So it could be the silver shark title. Are there other titles from belly quest?

[Henihhi]

O im sorry the Lu Shang title is from titanticus, silver shark gives "Ace angler" title and ogre eels and i think catfish give a cordon bleu title when you turn them in for the Inside the Belly quest. But considering the Atma is called "Ace Angler" and thats the silver shark title, i am assuming that is the trigger. Please correct me if anyone finds out otherwise, like i said i had turned all these in ages ago so could be any of them.

[matix]

i thought it was from placing in the fish ranking contest? i could be entirely wrong tho

[Esvedium]

From what I've done in fishing, it's from trading in a silver shark. That's one of 2 fish I've turned in to Zaldon, and I've never ranked higher than like 35th in the fishing contests, so I doubt that's it.

My fishing is sub-40, didn't quest lu's, obviously no ebisu, and I think that the only 2 fish I've ever turned in were sharks and marlin for those god damned charts.

{edit}I forgot that I have traded ~10 each of lik and gug, too, but gave up on that insanity.

[Byrthnoth]

Necroing this for the sake of testing! Below I have matched all the Atma that we don't have solid values for (but are possible to test) with the things about them that need to be tested. The tests range from "10 seconds tops" to "maybe two hours." If you are interested in contributing but don't know how to do a test, please post and ask.

Misc Tests

• Ranged Attack: Atma of the Drifter, Atma of the Stout Arm, Atma of Fires and Flares
• Enemy critical Hit Rate: Atma of Eternity
• Enhances the Effects of Riceballs: Atma of the Winged Enigma
• Snapshot: Atma of the Ascending One
• Critical Hit Damage: Atma of the Hero
• Enhances Demon Killer effect: Atma of the Hell's Guardian
• Evasion - Atma of Roaring Laughter (negative)
  

Magic Tests:

• Enhanced Drain/Aspir Test: Atma of Dunes
• Enhances Dia effect: Atma of Blighted Breath
• Enhances Addle effect: Atma of the Foe Flayer
• Quick Magic proc rate: Atma of the Apocalypse
• MCrit Rate: Atma of the Smoldering Sky, Atma of the Azure Sky

Enmity tests:

• Enmity: Atma of Luminous Wings
• Enmity Decrease when Taking Damage: Atma of the Mounted Champion
  

Bold = The ones that I don't have access to or think other people can do much faster than I can.
Italics = The ones I anticipate testing shortly