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[Virg]

Someone's killed bukhis with mnk rdm brd?

I heard Pchan solo´d it...ohwait...

[rog]

I heard Pchan solo´d it...ohwait...

Oh, pchan. I wonder if he actually still plays, or if he just reads about the game, and bases his bullshit on that.

[Thorny]

The stagger is before your readies, are you retarded? It was probably someone else fighting something nearby or whatever happened before that.

[rog]

The stagger is before your readies, are you retarded? It was probably someone else fighting something nearby or whatever happened before that.

Well, the log isn't always in order, so that doesn't prove he's wrong. It doesn't really mean anything.

[Thorny]

[14:53:40]Thornyy readies Asuran Fists.

[14:53:41]Your attack staggers the fiend!

[14:53:41]The fiend is unable to use special attacks.

[16:46:06]Thornyy readies Asuran Fists.

[16:46:06]yThe monster was concealing a treasure chest!

[16:46:06]Thornyy hits the Drekavac for 36 points of damage.

[16:46:06]Thornyy uses Boost.

[16:46:06]Thornyy's attacks are enhanced.

[16:46:07]Arcas obtains a revival tree root.

[16:46:07]Your attack staggers the fiend!

[16:46:07]The fiend is unable to use special attacks.

[16:47:07]Thornyy readies Asuran Fists.

[16:47:07]You are too far from the battle to gain experience.

[16:47:07]yYou find a vial of undying ooze on the Decayed Flesh.

[16:47:07]yYou find an undead skin on the Decayed Flesh.

[16:47:07]Thornyy uses Boost.

[16:47:07]Thornyy's attacks are enhanced.

[16:47:07]Your attack staggers the fiend!

[16:47:07]The fiend is unable to use special attacks.

[16:00:29]Thornyy readies Asuran Fists.

[16:00:29]Your attack staggers the fiend!

[16:00:29]The fiend is unable to use special attacks.

[16:42:56]Thornyy readies Howling Fist.

[16:42:56]Your attack staggers the fiend!

[16:42:56]The fiend is unable to use special attacks.

[21:09:54]Thornyy readies Dancing Edge.

[21:09:54]Lordcanti misses the Ab'xzomit.

[21:09:55]Your attack staggers the fiend!

[21:09:55]The fiend is unable to use special attacks.

[00:45:41]Niniann readies Evisceration.

[00:45:41]Equipment changed.

[00:45:41]Equipment changed.

[00:45:41]Equipment changed.

[00:45:42]Arcas uses Retaliation.

[00:45:42]Your attack staggers the fiend!

[00:45:42]The fiend is unable to use special attacks.

[21:47:32]Celille readies Asuran Fists.

[21:47:32]Your attack staggers the fiend!

[21:47:32]The fiend is unable to use special attacks.

[21:57:06]Spaa readies Evisceration.

[21:57:06]Celille hits Npfundlwa for 52 points of damage.

[21:57:06]Spaa scores a critical hit!

[21:57:06]Npfundlwa takes 415 points of damage.

[21:57:07]Your attack staggers the fiend!

[21:57:07]The fiend is unable to use special attacks.

[22:41:28]Celille readies Asuran Fists.

[22:41:28]Your attack staggers the fiend!

[22:41:28]The fiend is unable to use special attacks.

[04:20:37]Thornyy readies Retribution.

[04:20:37]Your attack staggers the fiend!

[04:20:37]The fiend is unable to use special attacks.

Got 90 more hits, want me to go through them? It doesn't show before readies.. readies shows before the WS even goes off. Haven't you had amnesia/stun/mob death occur after your readies message and block your weaponskill?

[ronin sparthos]

http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/6716/smokxd.jpg

So this breaks the pattern of post-75 weaponskills not working eh?

[NynJa]

No it doesnt because thats not a trigger...

[Zadimortis]

Added:

--> !! weaknesses are determined on the elemental day (grellow) and time (blue) of the monster's claim (free-roaming) or spawn (item-popped NM). That is, if you start fighting a monster at 23:00 Lightsday, and you're still fighting it by 8:00 Darksday, its Grellow weaknesses will still be within Electric/Light/Dark elements, and its Blue weakness will still be blunt.
--> --> However, if the monster goes unclaimed and passive, its weakness set will be reset upon next claim.

Correct me if my phrasing is wrong/misleading. Also fixed the blurb (which was flat-out wrong) under Grellow !!s, and linked to the better Blue !! list. Also set that link to the grellow !! list.

I'm not updating the post-75 WS's bit because there isn't affirmative proof that Refulgent Arrow set off the blue !! in that screenshot. As Thorny offered in copious amounts, the !! message should go off just after the weaponskill is readied, not before.

[aspekt]

I have never ever see a proc message before the spell/ws. And I also have over 70 SS to proof. With that said, if your SS was not cropped and it's not filtered will make it more believeable.

[Colenzo]

All ephermals do not give 10 lights. They may however give 5 as a base then 7.5 for your first light enhancing abyssite then a full 10 if you have both abyssites. For the people that do not have the abyssite, you will not get the full effect of the lights for the people that got the kill shot with the abyssites. It can vary from ephermal to ephermal also, they don't all give the same number of lights.

[rog]

They all give more than 1.

[fab]

are you retarded

easy !

well refulgent arrow need pretty long from start animation to finish that might be a reason . Also playing with a HSDPA connection might be another reason .

I have never ever see a proc message before the spell/ws. And I also have over 70 SS to proof. With that said, if your SS was not cropped and it's not filtered will make it more believeable.

i was the only person who was allowed to ws in that moment also .

also got an uncropped version of this .

[rog]

i was the only person who was allowed to ws in that moment also .

Was anyone else nearby?

[fab]

2nd ranger who weaponskilled 20 sec before me with detonator. only 2x pld on the mob the rest was standing behind me since we got red before and let smn/blm/rng finish it off.

as i can see in that other guy chatlog print he always got the stagger and ws readies message in the same second . so with just a lilbit lag .....

@ 15.55.24

http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/981/smokk.jpg

[cdgreg]

Definitely odd. I'm not familiar with other mobs near Smok in abyssea. Is it an area where people drag nms or pretty desolate?

[Kidnoftle]

t2/3 VNM can pop there

[Sylvrdragon]

One of the links in the OP says that Red !! is for Key Items and Blue !! is for rare drops, but neither that post, nor the OP state what Grellow !! does...

[fab]

we where the only ppl there no1 else was closer then 100 yalms . also no chatfilter or can you read the stagger message even when ppl are outside of chatlog range ?

[NynJa]

Dudes got filters on, unless its just coincidence that the only spells casted, damage shown, buffs casted, etc etc, only apply to the 6 people in your party, and Miwako is going Ballad^^ but not casting it because he wants to be cool.

Sorry, not Refulgent, try again.

[aspekt]

you will be able to read OTHERS stagger message even with full chat filter on.

[00:44:24]Aspekt scores a critical hit!

[00:44:24]The Ignis Eruca takes 204 points of damage.

[00:44:25]BastionPrefect : Alert! A modest enemy force has appeared on the southern verge!

[00:44:25]All noncombatants, evacuate to safety immediately!

[00:44:25]BastionPrefect : The southern enemy force is 400 yalms away from the outpost and closing!

[00:44:25]We had best step up our preparations.

[00:44:25]Your attack staggers the fiend!

[00:44:25]The fiend is unable to cast magic.

[00:44:26]Pilfered defeats the Ignis Eruca.

[00:44:26]{You must wait longer to perform that action.

[00:44:28]BastionPrefect : The defense of the outpost is hereby commenced!

[00:44:28]Those wishing to lend their sword arms, report to me for Pennant issuance!

[00:44:28]{You must wait longer to perform that action.

[00:44:31]BastionPrefect : The southern enemy force is 300 yalms away from the outpost and closing!

[00:44:31]I pray that the traps will have the desired effect.

Edit: I was thinking, the only way to PROVE that any WS outside of the "15" can proc is to suck it up and proc it again,
otherwise, we are going to keep getting these over and over, this goes same for other then Blue !!, proc it twice and SS it.