The Current Hierarchy of DDs

[Snick]

Clearly they should nerf RR~

Sorta half serious.

[Byrthnoth]

Well, regardless of how awesome it is, RR could still be overthrown in the next patch for jobs like WAR because DEX is likely to be irrelevant. If they keep monster stat progression the same, most WARs will have capped dDex on everything that matters without the +50 from RR. Then they could combine other Atmas with Major (or superior) Critical Hit rate and Crit damage bonus to get the same effect as RR while picking up better secondary stats. Seems unlikely though... RR is such a tidy package.

I don't really see the jobs on the top getting unthroned (Monk in particular), but that doesn't mean SE won't close the gap somehow.

Also, what are people's feelings on our odds of seeing new WSs this coming update? Last update had WSs you got through skill cap increases. The most recent update had WSs you got from Empyreals. I'm suspecting we're going to see another round of skill or quest based WSs in this next patch, potentially associated with a particular magian path again (WS damage?).

[blowfin]

Clearly they should nerf RR~

Sorta half serious.

Well, that will come with some decent content after we're done with Abyss and level cap goes to 99. Hopes aren't very high at the moment though...

[Taint]

I'm suspecting we're going to see another round of skill or quest based WSs in this next patch, potentially associated with a particular magian path again (WS damage?).

Player 1 - "Don't you have a lvl90 Masamune, why don't you use it any more?"

Player 2 - "Yep, but my Keitonotachi WSD+12% gives me Tachi: Crityoface"

[Zubuis]

Regardless of whatever happens in next update WAR is always going to be a strong abyssea job. Not necessarly because its a strong DD (which it is regardless), but because it can trigger so many red and blue !!, it has access to a ton of different weapons so its really good because of the versatility that it offers.

Monk is probably still going to be upper tier because it is the best dd tank (imo). It has high HP, counterstance, perfect counter, subtle blow, counter, easy to keep shadows up etc. Ascetics fury rapes with RR and VV (other atmas are similarly good) which makes it easy to hold hate.

However as people have said update is not that far away, and everything could change. Jobs could get new ws's that change the ways things currently are. I think the majority of DD are fairly strong with the Atma's. But I dont think Abyssea is necessarly about Hierachy of DD's. You can take a job like DRG that imo, is a very strong DD with Drakesbane and all the atmas, but its lack of versatility when it comes to red and blue !!, make it not as appetizing compared to WAR. DRK is another job which I dont think is really very strong in Abyssea, but next update if they get some better ws's maybe that changes (yet it still can trigger some yellow, red and blue because it does have some versatility as well). I think out of all the dd jobs, RNG suffers the most. I just dont think the Atmas help the job that much (compared to other jobs) from what I've seen. But saying that its still a useful job in abyssea because of widescan and markmanship and archery can be useful for Blue !! and the fact that you can damage from out of AoE.

[KSDI]

Player 1 - "Don't you have a lvl90 Masamune, why don't you use it any more?"

Player 2 - "Yep, but my Keitonotachi WSD+12% gives me Tachi: Crityoface"

This was funny, btw taint, how has kaces done with the emp. axe/ridill combo?

[Sho]

Am I the only one that gets turned off by this math nonesense? Whatever happened to beating shit till it died? Oh wait, that's exactly what happens in these threads. Dead horse etc

Best post in thread by far, lol. Also, concur. Only math that truly matters is Kirschy-math 90% of the time. And this Mala dude should get into the trolling business, it is amazing how I get confused if he's serious or trolling.

[Draylo]

BLU is at the top tbh, MNK and WAR somewhere after that.

[Byrthnoth]

BLU is at the top tbh, MNK and WAR somewhere after that.

haha, it had to happen

[Sho]

BLU is at the top tbh, MNK and WAR somewhere after that.

As a fellow BLU main, I could slap you silly.

[isladar]

Totally late to the party, but obligatory: this'll end in tears.

[FailureMidgard]

Totally late to the party, but obligatory: this'll end in tears.

Honestly, I don't understand...is there something wrong with the topic of the thread or the discussion thus far? Or you're just saying someone is going to get into a personal shit-flinging contest? If it's the latter, I change my mind and do understand, if it's the former...I'm honestly lost.

[Yabby]

latter, this is bg...

[Malacite]

^ it hasn't already? :3

Just an aside about Zubuis' point, maybe this is SE's way of coming through with one of the many job updates they said they were thinking of but never delivered, like the DRK Scythe update lol. I remember them specifically citing in a past interview or website article years ago that they wanted to put more emphasis on WAR's ability to wield so many weapon types. Well, here we are with Abyssea and so far so good. I'm actually very glad I got Nightfall now lol since up until recently it's been sitting in my storage.

[Purrloin]

latter, this is bg...

This is BG. *MY* DD is best!

[Mercilessturtle]

tired old blu trolling

What you lack in brains you make up for in dedication.

[vagus]

With minkin and beyond rdm can tank just fine also really. pld is dead. has been for long time now. Some ls's just cant let it go.

An LS on Odin has 5 Aegis. Lolz.

[Odin'sLaw]

An LS on Odin has 5 Aegis. Lolz.

saddening isn't it? :/

[jurjur]

Fear not, SE will make trials for Aegis and all will be well. You'll just have to shield bash a few thousand mobs to death, np.

[Malacite]

Until Heroes comes out and it turns out SE was just teasing us this whole time with weak mobs >_>b

lol it could happen.