Why work hard?

[friedfunk]

http://www.zerohedge.com/article/ent...ome-family-mak

[Kwijiboe]

YAKAWOW. THREADS DEAD.

[Anton]

Do you know what disposable income means? It means money you can spend on baseball games, bling, and prostitutes. IE: money you entertain yourself with.

So, right off the bat, the premise is totally off. One parent has more cash for itself than two? Cool story bro.

Second, food stamps as disposable income? REALLY?

It gets even scarier if one assumes a little dishonesty is throwin in the equation.

Don't take your food stamps for

It's no surprise at all that in a cash business, the employee might stand to make way more by pocketing the earnings and reporting a lower income, cause cash can't be tracked. Repairmen do it. Ticket scalpers do it. Shit, my barber drives a BMW M5, but "business is always bad" lol.

But seriously now, if you took even just food stamps out it wouldn't be a problem. I bet next weeks rant will be "Food Shelters: Assault on the Middle Classes"

Finally, it's worth noting the same shit happens here in Canada, only more severely. Due to the nature of tax brackets, I wager this shit happens all the time, wherever there's a progressive system. It is very possible that a raise could earn you less money per year, and, while uncommon, people do turn them down when they would result in such an occurrence.

Only canadians don't bitch so much that a minimum wage earner gets free milk. Comes in bags, eh?
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I thought the best part of 'Tyler Durden' speech was

Best of all: being on welfare does not judge you if you are stupid enough not to take drugs all day, every day to make some sense out of this Mephistophelian tragicomedy known as living in the USA:

And, I'll be honest, I get 100$ every 3 months for a student HST tax credit, and they're my favourite half-o's of the year.

[Syntex]

Tax everyone 15% including the rich and poor.

Problem solved?

[Anton]

Tax everyone 15% including the rich and poor.

Problem solved?

Rich people pay like 2% and still pay nearly half of America's tax revenue. Which is a bit sad.

Edit: I also understand that changing the tax rate in any direction will piss people off. You'll get "Oh but the poor cant afford to pay what the rich pay" and other inane arguments that make absolutely no sense, but are sensationalist enough to hold media attention until Anna Nicole Smith comes back as a zombie

[ZarakiKujata]

Tax everyone 15% including the rich and poor.

Problem solved?

Cause 15% of a rich person's income impacts them just as much as 15% of a poor person's income.

[Melchiah]

Cause 15% of a rich person's income impacts them just as much as 15% of a poor person's income.

lol

[Rhinox]

Tax everyone 15% including the rich and poor.

Problem solved?

no

[Atreides]

isn't it more like... a person who makes 60k a year is more likely to have a credit card that's maxed out, a mortgage that's underwater, insurance premiums they can barely afford, while they spend shitloads of money on iphones and tvs and video games and volvos, and keep all of their money in checking/savings instead of investments that pay even a little interest?

Granted I am a little tired of hearing about how difficult rich people have it but part of me would like to believe that poor people would know the value of a dollar more than someone in the middle class.

[Kerberoz]

Why are you even discussing a thread with a single link and nothing else in the OP? Quit dignifying it.

[ZarakiKujata]

Especially since OP's link is the political equivalent of sankaku complex.

[aurik]

obl.
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2374/...87e3683a_o.gif

[aurik]

Also
http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/defau...y%20Earned.jpg

What this chart calculates is "net economic benefit", but it glosses over the fact that most of the totals credited to the impoverished family are in the form of non-cash benefits. That money is not savable. If you actually calculate the chart of how much savable money (disposable income) each hypothetical has, you'll see appropriate stratification.

[Fhqwghads]

Let's also not forget that in order to live in that 14k bracket the person is housed in a shit-tastic location which is more than likely surrounded by unsavory and shady characters. Awesome environment to be bringing up 3 kids. But I suppose if they're willingly gaming the system they don't give too much of a fuck about their kids anyway.

[Yabby]

Let's also not forget that in order to live in that 14k bracket the person is housed in a shit-tastic location which is more than likely surrounded by unsavory and shady characters. Awesome environment to be bringing up 3 kids. But I suppose if they're willingly gaming the system they don't give too much of a fuck about their kids anyway.

I does say section 8.... I lived that way when i was a teen. Was funny because non of my friends from school would ever come to my apt because of where i lived. Couldn't even get a pizza delivered because they got shot all the fucking time.

[zoobernut]

Hmm so many things wrong with this thread.

OP is stupid for posting a link and not even bothering to quote the article for people who can't click on the link or don't want to. OP is also stupid for posting a thread with a link and offering no opinion on it or any sort of discussion at all.

Article is stupid for being so grossly confused on what the term disposable income means. Just because the total economic benefit is higher for certain demographics doesn't mean their quality of life is higher nor does it mean they have more money to spend on crap.

[aurik]

Let's also not forget that in order to live in that 14k bracket the person is housed in a shit-tastic location which is more than likely surrounded by unsavory and shady characters. Awesome environment to be bringing up 3 kids. But I suppose if they're willingly gaming the system they don't give too much of a fuck about their kids anyway.

They're not real children anyway, they're just living welfare checks.

[Miragemaiden]

Hmm so many things wrong with this thread.

http://failness.com/wp-content/uploa...ail-thread.jpg

[dudeguy]

How come it costs so much less to take care of a kid when you are making 3k compared to any other wage brackets listed ($2.5k vs $9.6k lol wut)... also how are you supposed to pay rent with the 16k medicaid?

Disclaimer: yes i am to lazy to read any of that fluff

[Anton]

How come it costs so much less to take care of a kid when you are making 3k compared to any other wage brackets listed ($2.5k vs $9.6k lol wut)... also how are you supposed to pay rent with the 16k medicaid?

Disclaimer: yes i am to lazy to read any of that fluff

Ok tl;dr punk,

Article says you get X much more money than a 60k bracket from government programs because you're so broke that you are 'granted' free money for drugs and baseball. Which is 'totally' socialism.

But the whole premise misunderstands disposable income, because you don't have more disposable money at all. What you do have are more government programs that pay for certain things, and not all of them are in the form of money. Like, you can't trade in your food stamps for a baseball game if you aren't hungry as fuck today on your piddly salary.

In fact, if you ignore just the food stamps (which they should have) you have less disposable income than the 60k bracket, and the whole goddamn thing is a waste of time. Shocking that some dumbshit prof actually wrote this crap and forgot the definition of what he was arguing, a definition taught, I believe, in high school. Fuck cleveland, fuck the OP, this thread is a waste of time