US diplomatic cables to be dropped by wikileaks; US doing pre-emptive damage control

[Uzor]

That does not answer my question. Why, if the USA can do anything it wants right now, would Obama not send assassins after Assange, since so many want to see him dead?

I'm sure you can figure out the reason why he isn't dead if you really use the brain you've been given. He is, after all, at a known location without anyone guarding him. I'm sure it wouldn't be hard to assassinate him if Obama sent the order out. So why hasn't he, you think? Why go through the trouble at all to work 24/7 on setting up a case against Assange to get him extraditioned to America, if you can just send assassins after him and get the job done faster?

[BerenTebogo]

That does not answer my question. Why, if the USA can do anything it wants right now, would Obama not send assassins after Assange, since so many want to see him dead?

I'm sure you can figure out the reason why he isn't dead if you really use the brain you've been given. He is, after all, at a known location without anyone guarding him. I'm sure it wouldn't be hard to assassinate him if Obama sent the order out. So why hasn't he, you think? Why go through the trouble at all to work 24/7 on setting up a case against Assange to get him extraditioned to America, if you can just send assassins after him and get the job done faster?

Who says Obama wants him dead? Who says that this whole wikileaks ordeal can't be spinned in a positive direction by Obama's advisers? Since when do rageaholic senators and pundits matter in any way? The entire process is a soap opera. Nothing that has come out so far has hurt Obama in any significant way. Hell, George Bush retained massive amounts of support despite making huge fuck-ups and being called out on them while IN OFFICE. People got over it.

I mean, yeah yeah idealism, but who is to say that the President of the United States of America, the first black one at that, a supposed democrat, and hopefully a decently rational guy, doesn't support the world that Assange is trying to create? He has a part to play in public, yeah, but I firmly believe that if Obama wanted Assange dead, he'd be dead already.

Something tells me that when you see movies, you think that the actors really are the people they portray. We have no evidence as to the true character of Obama aside from him kinda being a pushover with good intentions. You have some heavy delusions about the face of the world that you see on the evening news being all there is. I'd think that after this much has been revealed by Wikileaks it'd be a bit easier to see the many layers involved in every international relationship.

[clobetasol]

They dont need to kill him. Their already ruining his name and reputation.

[Uzor]

Who says Obama wants him dead? Who says that this whole wikileaks ordeal can't be spinned in a positive direction by Obama's advisers? Since when do rageaholic senators and pundits matter in any way? The entire process is a soap opera. Nothing that has come out so far has hurt Obama in any significant way. Hell, George Bush retained massive amounts of support despite making huge fuck-ups and being called out on them while IN OFFICE. People got over it.

I mean, yeah yeah idealism, but who is to say that the President of the United States of America, the first black one at that, a supposed democrat, and hopefully a decently rational guy, doesn't support the world that Assange is trying to create? He has a part to play in public, yeah, but I firmly believe that if Obama wanted Assange dead, he'd be dead already.

Something tells me that when you see movies, you think that the actors really are the people they portray. We have no evidence as to the true character of Obama aside from him kinda being a pushover with good intentions. You have some heavy delusions about the face of the world that you see on the evening news being all there is. I'd think that after this much has been revealed by Wikileaks it'd be a bit easier to see the many layers involved in every international relationship.

See, that's my entire point. Yes, a lot of people want him dead, but - as I even said in an earlier post - I'm sure Obama is a rational guy and wouldn't order a hit on him, but handle things the legal way. Because, as I also said earlier, Assange isn't worth the potential risk. He may be high profile, but he's of little worth and - as I also said earlier, and which you seem to agree with in your post - he's only a mild inconvenience who hasn't done enough harm to "get rid of". Like I said earlier as well (and I hate repeating myself), he's not Osama, even though a lot of politicians seem to want to paint him up to be a terrorist.

And why are you making assumptions about me? Have you run out of arguments so that the only thing you can come up with is making asinine assumptions in an attempt to ridicule me?

[BerenTebogo]

See, that's my entire point. Yes, a lot of people want him dead, but - as I even said in an earlier post - I'm sure Obama is a rational guy and wouldn't order a hit on him, but handle things the legal way. Because, as I also said earlier, Assange isn't worth the potential risk. He may be high profile, but he's of little worth and - as I also said earlier, and which you seem to agree with in your post - he's only a mild inconvenience who hasn't done enough harm to "get rid of". Like I said earlier as well (and I hate repeating myself), he's not Osama, even though a lot of politicians seem to want to paint him up to be a terrorist.

And why are you making assumptions about me? Have you run out of arguments so that the only thing you can come up with is making asinine assumptions in an attempt to ridicule me?

You must be new.

[Indalecia]

http://satwcomic.com/art/leaking.jpg

[Thoronas]

[Uzor]

You must be new.

If you look at my join date you'll see I'm older than you, so no, I'm not new. Yes, I know insulting is common practice on BG, but I'm sure you can think of a better, more fun and witty insults than your previous asinine attempt. Come on, at least make me chuckle.

[BerenTebogo]

Yeah, I'm new.

Ah, that explains it.

[notorious bum]

Yeah, I'm a Swede.

You're forgiven.

[Ragnus]

http://www.news.com.au/features/wiki...-1225974366476

JULIAN Assange, the man behind WikiLeaks, today launched a wide ranging series of attacks on both his enemies and allies as he defended his public and private conduct.

In his first UK newspaper interview since releasing hundreds of secret diplomatic cables last month, Mr Assange told The Times he predicts the US will face reprisals if it attempts to extradite him on conspiracy charges.

He accused his media partners at The Guardian newspaper, which worked with him to make the embarrassing leaks public, of unfairly tarnishing him by revealing damaging details of the sex assault allegations he faces in Sweden.

He insisted that the women behind the claims were motivated by revenge.

Mr Assange said he had enough material ready to destroy the bosses of one of the world’s biggest banks.

Speaking from the English mansion where he is confined on bail, the 39-year-old Australian said that the decision to publish incriminating police files about him was "disgusting". The Guardian had previously used him as its source for hundreds of leaked US embassy cables.

Mr Assange is understood to be particularly angry with a senior reporter at the paper and former friend for "selectively publishing" incriminating sections of the police report, although The Guardian made clear that the WikiLeaks founder was given several days to respond.

Mr Assange claimed the newspaper received leaked documents from Swedish authorities or "other intelligence agencies" intent on jeopardising his defence.

"The leak was clearly designed to undermine my bail application," he said. "Someone in authority clearly intended to keep Julian in prison."

He denied allegations of sexual assault and said that the allegations by two Swedish women he met in August "came from nowhere".

Mr Assange was arrested and held in Wandsworth prison after Swedish authorities issued an extradition request. He was released on bail last week on a surety of £275,000 ($US427,872).

He said that he still had not seen the full extent of the allegations against him, although he accepted that his Swedish lawyer had been handed many of the details.

When asked if he was promiscuous, he replied: "I’m not promiscuous. I just really like women."

Mr Assange also confirmed that WikiLeaks was holding a vast amount of material about a bank which it intends to release early next year.

Shares in Bank of America recently fell after speculation spread that it was the target.

"We don’t want the bank to suffer unless it’s called for," Mr Assange said. "But if its management is operating in a responsive way there will be resignations."

US officials are reportedly searching for ways to extradite him on espionage charges. Vice President Joe Biden recently called the WikiLeaks founder a "high-tech terrorist".

Mr Assange said that he believed that the US situation would "turn around absolutely" as a groundswell of favourable opinion grew in America.

"The people in power are organised and were able to respond quickly," he said. "But numerically they are not that strong and our support in the general population is tremendous."

Mr Assange's interview follows revelations that police feared he would be assassinated on the front steps of London's High Court.

He revealed earlier he was told to keep a statement celebrating his freedom brief due a perceived threat on his life.

The police concerns emerged as Mr Assange revealed further details about his prison stay - including that he was housed alongside paedophiles and found support among prison guards.

That comic on this page is perfect.


Also, lol at the reporter using an Iphone to record his statement.

[Meian]

Eh so the founder of Wikileaks is upset about leaks against him? lol...

[aurik]

So? He has every right to be.

[kuronosan]

So what's this about the Repubs opposing a whistle-blowing rights bill?

[Shuvo]

So? He has every right to be.

Lol I'm seeing so many people acting smug about that. Retards.

[Khajit]

The stuff leaked on wikileaks is being kept secret because it's being purposely hidden to prevent retribution or at least prevent the rest of the civilians in the world from being made aware of anything.
The stuff leaked about julian assange wasn't released because it was still being investigated and the release of said leak essentially amounts to nothing more than a smear campaign.
Amazing how hard it is to see the difference between a massive cover up of officials callously throwing away the lives of hundreds of thousands of people and a police investigation.

A rare Israel related cable seems to have popped up too. If the Israeli official was accurate in his statements then it prettymuch exposes(more than everyone already knew) outright the fact that the US never gave a shit about the peace process and just wants to suck israeli dick.

[Salodin]

What is in said cable?

[Olo401]

So much for the controlled release of the documents and oversight by traditional media..

[Bingbong]

So much for the controlled release of the documents and oversight by traditional media..

http://randazza.files.wordpress.com/...pg?w=300&h=240

[Khajit]

What is in said cable?

I read it on mondoweiss. giving you a link, a random quote and a tldr.


http://mondoweiss.net/2010/12/the-sm...-must-end.html

"MFA Middle East Director (Assistant Secretary-equivalent) Patrice Paoli informed POL Minister Counselor June 18 that Israeli Defense Minister Ehud Barak
told French officials in Paris June 15 that the Israelis have
a "secret accord" with the USG to continue the "natural
growth" of Israeli settlements in the West Bank. Paoli noted
that the French anticipate strong Israeli resistance to USG
pressure on this issue....

http://cablesearch.org/?id=09PARIS827&v


TLDR: Israel said they have a secret accord to continue their crap they aren't supposed to be doing while the US pretends to say that Israel should stop it.