Your opinion on the level cap being raised/Abyssea

[Spira]

The point about FFXI at earlygame for new players is the most relevant I think.. The change of pace that Abyssea brings is so ridiculously radical that progressing through endgame is far easier than early on, which is simply odd imo.

There are a whole ton of ways they could easily shift the balance for low levels though. I think basic adjustments like raising exp cap below lv50 to 300 would help some.. increasing the amount of EXP that scrolls grant you could be another. Increasing Campaign Ops exp rewards too. I'd be happy if they started giving chunky EXP rewards for stuff like BC20. It'd encourage people to take up older content again and help reduce the whole exp imbalance at lower levels.

[Dooom]

I'd be happy if they started giving chunky EXP rewards for stuff like BC20. It'd encourage people to take up older content again and help reduce the whole exp imbalance at lower levels.

ENM 30 already gives 3k exp per person iirc, and how many people do those?

[Darkyrm]

3k is pityful xp when counting how much time you need to gather people (or waiting friends to be ready), get key item, get to ENM BC and do it. Yoy can minimize it soloing but still you need to get the key item and get to BC plus you get the xp on the job you make the BC, all that time wasted is not worth it. Something like 10k xp scrolls so you can use that xp on a sub would make it worth it IMO.

While Im having tons of fun with Abyssea stuff I think that the next step for SE alongside future content post-Abyssea is to rebalance old content, make a fun way to raise subs outside Abyssea, tweak Dynamis or make Dynamis related zones were you can purchuase af2 with a point bassed system, (I still want some Dynamis pieces but Im not going to put my foot on standard Dynamis boredom zone ever again), add rewards or +1s to Limbus/Assault/Nyzul/Salvage and xp rewards on non xp mobs, give a great boost to Campaing rewards etc...

And while that should not be a priority over new content I think that would help the game in the long run because even if it dies at some point as a subscrition based game I could see the game doing quite well as a free mmorpg if it has a good all-level balance not current 75+ stuff or bust. [Reworked FFXI in FFXIV engine like someone mentioned would be a wild dream but puts a smile in my face just wishful-thinking about it]

[Cream Soda]

I had to lv whm to 30 (from 28) before I could leech abyssea last night. Shit was painfully slow even w/ PL and Kupo ring. As soon as I dinged 30 I was out of that mother fucker so quick lol. Went to an abyssea pt and went to sleep woke up lv 40 (they only went on for an hour or so more after I got there)

[Shalafi]

WHM is nothing, try leveling SCH low level

[Mahoro]

With respect to post-Heroes content, I'd just like to point out one thing that I haven't seen anybody comment on, either on the forums or in my LS this past week. This is the language from the news item for advance sales of Heroes of Abyssea:

Heroes of Abyssea—the third in the popular series of battle area add-ons—is now available for purchase via the PlayOnline viewer!

Third in the "series." No use of the word "final." Admittedly "popular." I don't recall them using that language with ACP/MKE, etc. These days, if you are still playing FFXI, you ARE shelling out $9.99 for each add-on. They are very nearly NOT optional, unlike ACP/MKE which people blew off and derided as $9.99 for 1 piece of equipment.

Don't think that we've seen the last of Abyssea. With just about every actively playing person dropping $9.99 every few months, they'd have to be IDIOTS not to continue the series in some way, shape or form.

EDIT: Also, remember that people with multiple accounts have been buying the add-ons so that they can enter and do stuff/help people without having to burn stones on their mains. This is very much unlike ACP/MKE. Every 100,000 characters that purchase the add-on is $1,000,000. Econ 101 dictates we will see more of Abyssea.

[Nadrojj]

I, for one, got tired of doing the same events for over 3 years. I am content never having to return to Salvage, Dynamis, Limbus or any of those.

^

Abyssea is awesome, people love it. Low manning things just makes getting things done faster and easier with out having to rely on 10 other people to show up, have RR not go afk etc etc. I love the fact that I never have to go back to limbus/dynamis/sky and all events that were a huge time sync for a limited reward. Now you can enter abyssea when you want, you can farm mobs for pop items, pop mobs and kill with a low group.

As far as the gear goes you have to release new gear with new content. New gear is going to trump old gear due to the fact that the levels are raised. Yes people are going to QQ about their Ebod no longer being the best item in the game, but oh well shit happens. Look at wow every time they have an expansion old gear is obsolete. Old gear is old, old content is old, change with the times or play another game.

Obligatory you got banned for cheating now you came back to QQ how the game is different comment.

[Rocl]

Actually you can see the map by clicking the world map on the airship... don't try so hard.

Holy shit you are so so fucking dumb are you braindead or something maybe you should go find an adult and strap your helmet on extra tight before posting

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[Raen Ryong]

When Rocl is provoked, it is an event of unparalleled terror.

[Rocl]

my razor wit knows no bounds

[Colenzo]

When Rocl is provoked, it is an event of unparalleled terror.

Knowing wtf is going on isn't terrifying, its the retards rolling there drool covered faces on their keyboards and clicking "post quick reply" thats scary.

[shepardG]

Change kings repops to 6 hours, make killing them 5-10 times part of a nice trial weapon or armor upgrade, younger players can now get. Some nice gear and older folks still have incentive to help out. Again thinking out loud not sure how excited i'd be about this but who wants an e.body when they have a grim cruaiss or whatever af3 turns out to be. Meh food for thought I guess

[mdkuser]

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Abyssea is awesome, people love it. Low manning things just makes getting things done faster and easier with out having to rely on 10 other people to show up, have RR not go afk etc etc. I love the fact that I never have to go back to limbus/dynamis/sky and all events that were a huge time sync for a limited reward. Now you can enter abyssea when you want, you can farm mobs for pop items, pop mobs and kill with a low group.

As far as the gear goes you have to release new gear with new content. New gear is going to trump old gear due to the fact that the levels are raised. Yes people are going to QQ about their Ebod no longer being the best item in the game, but oh well shit happens. Look at wow every time they have an expansion old gear is obsolete. Old gear is old, old content is old, change with the times or play another game.

Obligatory you got banned for cheating now you came back to QQ how the game is different comment.

First wow is not a reference seing as they failed to release more finished extensions than FFXI with 30x more subscribers and secondly well you know what will happen in the close future to relics, empyreal weapons and armors. So looking at this I wouldn't really rejoice about the supposedely awesome gear ( < + 5 % damage compared to the previously best gear at best seing as any melee stat beside crit haste is irrelevant, not talking about weapons).

[Plow]

(yes even Defending Ring doesn't seem like it's worth the trouble anymore.)

Am I the only person that thinks DRing is more valuable now than it ever has been in all of FFXI, save perhaps the few months before people figured out pld/nin?

I agree with the atma point, but how can you call Abyssea too time consuming and too limited? You're playing an MMO, the goal is to be time consuming. The fact that there's so much to do now is pretty good (though I think trials are stupid as fuck still and they went about them all wrong). And how is Abyssea limited? It's the least limiting event to date...

I think what he's getting at is the way it restricts how you go about things. Even if you have tons of stones, it doesn't mean everyone with you does. If anyone is at all limited, it means you've got to farm small shit, which sucks. However, we kind of tend to forget that it's pretty much always been that way.

Even looking back to sky, what was the worst part? Popping Ulli, popping despot, popping SC, farming water. It's really kind of a complaint towards all MMO's more than anything, all the good ones still rely on forced trash mobs along side the entertaining shit.

Fuck, you could even make Yilbegan useful through magians.

You should be hung for suggesting this.

[Salmijr]

Isn't current PDT cappable now without Dring?

[Plow]

10% is a lot of room for decent gear in your pdt/mdt sets...

Not to mention if it doesn't affect x-hit you pretty much might as well use it in tp sets.

[Mojo]

It's still certainly a good item, but with all that there is to do now and how easy it is to do all of these things without a defending ring, fuck if I'd ever be seen in Behemoth's Dominion trying to get one.

[Byrthnoth]

It's still a solid piece, but it has never been worth camping.

[Plow]

Oh it's definitely a personal decision, I would never put in the camping it takes to get. If you have it/care enough to get it though, it's as good or better now than ever considering how much we're just facing up and eating the dmg these days.

Hell, I'd probably pick it if I won bonanza >.>

Not like gil matters now anyway.

[Tsuko_Asura]

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