Concerned About After December Update

[Shazaam]

Ahh found it under the comprehensive list for nov/dec. (before the nov. update when they were listing future fixes)

"Improvements to the Main Menu
The splitting of Attributes & Gear into two separate menu options
The addition of a Loot option for easy access to the loot list"

Guess they added it after all. Here's to hoping a 'loot master' can be added with 'manual sort' then...

Damn, now I am worried too. I keep myself warm at night with thoughts that the only reason to add a 'loot' option to the main menu is to give you options with loot... I hope.

[Kurokikaze]

If you're hoping for end-game loots or NMs you're going to be really disappointed come December. I wouldn't bet on it.

Look forward to some Bubbly Bernie and Mee Deegi the Punisher type mobs.

[Celeras]

The fucks going on here, people talking like Ochiudo/Leaping Boots were't endgame loot for several years lol.

Also: this thread is dumb. Worry about it when it happens.

[Hyan]

The fucks going on here, people talking like Ochiudo/Leaping Boots were't endgame loot for several years lol.

Oh god.

If there is something I want them to learn from, it's O kote/L boots type situation.

Good vertical progression = lvl7 shit isn't better than lvl50 shit.

Fucking vanilla and RotZ.

/hopes for stroper chymes, not morbolgers

[Shazaam]

I thought the point of this thread wasn't about what NM's or gear was coming out... but about the the functionality of the loot system and how it will play into rewarding group members in NM/endgame situations....

How did this turn into a ROTZ drop discussion?

PS: Where the hell is my Jagged-Ear Marmot?

EDIT:
"Good vertical progression = lvl7 shit isn't better than lvl50 shit." ~hyan

That's actually one of the main things I hate about playing WoW... the focus on vertical progression entirely.. While I agree that LL boots shouldn't be best in slot until endgame, I also hate the idea that endgame is constantly overwritten... it leads to a game that lacks content because it has overwritten perfectly good content for newer adepts. This is why WoW has nearly no fun early or Mid-game, and why they had to rewrite the entire game to try to create some. FFXI's system is superior to WoW's in this one aspect. Especially given the option to swap jobs... low level gear that is extremely rare SHOULD be better than lvl50 shit when it can cross many classes.

Damn... I got sucked into the derail...

[miokomioko]

We're going to rely on the honor system. D:

[Hyan]

Since loot system is one of their "derp" innovations currently...

I'm hoping for a point system. Kill NM, get 20 "ichorzenitokens"... collect 1337 of these points, claim your epic loot.

[Shazaam]

We're going to rely on the honor system. D:

I'll 're-lie' 'hon-her'' anytime.

/cue sad rim shot.
; ;

EDIT: If I get Bobobo with maraccas for this post, I guess I deserve my 'pun'-ishment...

[Sephiroth]

Since loot system is one of their "derp" innovations currently...

I'm hoping for a point system. Kill NM, get 20 "ichorzenitokens"... collect 1337 of these points, claim your epic loot.

It looks like it will be something along the lines of this considering the Lodestone post today.
Although it seems you only need one rather than many, but I'm sure they'll make some loot require many later on.
http://lodestone.finalfantasyxiv.com...1377810736881e
But that example is just a leve NM.

Does anyone think the current factions will contain the NMs or will we need new points in a new category? I've been saving my points and getting close to the 999 cap on one of them.

[Hyan]

It looks like it will be something along the lines of this considering the Lodestone post today.

It may be like this, but I don't think so.

What I meant is that everyone gets the same points and can use them to get loot. I'm not sure if everyone will get the runestone here.

Although it's probably the guy who started the faction leve who gets the rune... okay, it makes sense now. Everyone else gets money or whatever.

[Rivian]

I'll 're-lie' 'hon-her'' anytime.

/cue sad rim shot.
; ;

EDIT: If I get Bobobo with maraccas for this post, I guess I deserve my 'pun'-ishment...

i lol'd

[Kurokikaze]

The fucks going on here, people talking like Ochiudo/Leaping Boots were't endgame loot for several years lol.

Also: this thread is dumb. Worry about it when it happens.

Oh my, I totally forgot that. Let's hope that shit doesn't happen again.

[arshesney]

The fucks going on here, people talking like Ochiudo/Leaping Boots were't endgame loot for several years lol.

Also: this thread is dumb. Worry about it when it happens.

Don't forget King Arthro, Simurgh and Roc: all cap 50 "HNMs": Speed Belt, 'nuff said.

[Kaylia]

Since loot system is one of their "derp" innovations currently...

I'm hoping for a point system. Kill NM, get 20 "ichorzenitokens"... collect 1337 of these points, claim your epic loot.

Are you trying to turn FFXIV into WoW? Keep your casual content out of ffxiv.

[ZarakiKujata]

Don't forget King Arthro, Simurgh and Roc: all cap 50 "HNMs": Speed Belt, 'nuff said.

Pretty sure speed belt was 55 chief. That list of JP launch XI updates had the first HNMs being added around RoTZ... and w/ it the rise in level cap

[Hyan]

Are you trying to turn FFXIV into WoW? Keep your casual content out of ffxiv.

Don't worry, it's just temporary!

[fussel]

I'm hoping for a point system. Kill NM, get 20 "ichorzenitokens"... collect 1337 of these points, claim your epic loot.

That's basically FF11's assault system which I liked.

[miokomioko]

Assault Points, Theron Ichor, Allied Notes, Imperial Standing, Conquest Points, etc.

Guaranteed, consistent, and tangible progress is always welcomed.

[Lucavi]

Edit: is it just me or is Lucavi becoming more 'new SE'-friendly with each announcement by the dev team? If so, it's nice to see that their attempts are starting to have some effect, even on those jaded from the 'old-SE' antics.

I call a spade a spade. Just because I didn't apologize or offer excuses for why SE failed so horribly doesn't mean I hate the company. They rushed the shit out the door; I called them out for it; I took heat for it, but whatever. A spade is a spade.

Now they're realizing that their player-base doesn't simply consist of mindless chattel willing to shell out monthly payments by the bucketful because this is the same company that made FFVII. They realized they're going to have to work for this thing to be successful, not simply use alliteration in update notes and treat the game like this is 2001.

They're getting better at it, and consequently, my opinion of them is going up bit by bit. Its still in the cellar, however, when compared to games like Rift, especially when they can't fix simple things like being able to log back into the same leve or behest, or not putting warnings for when you're about to mini-zone so you lose your leves, or not fixing the post-kill corpse-targeting, or the clusterfuck of a repair process, or...

See? Its still the same old me.

[viion]

Well I doubt we will see open world NM's come December, most likely next year.

For these December NM's they come in factions, so you have "Difficulty" control, (thus you can prolly solo some of them). Also you will most likely do them with friends you trust, it is your fault if you do it with people you don't trust.

And finally: The December NM's drop nothing, the Faction itself gives you them token things you trade in, so if you have the faction, you will get it from the faction reward not from the mob itself. There may be other things from the chest but the tokens for the main gear will be given to the person who initiated (or linked) the faction, so no "loot" will be used.

When it comes to the day when things are like XI they will have to implement a global loot with "loot" dice-roll mechanics. People will furiously explode if they kill a NM and some random newbie into a linkshell walks away with XIV's-Ridil.