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  1. #21
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    No one noticed the Break spell being added for RDM and SCH?

    I bet it will be very inaccurate and/or petrify for an entire 2 seconds, though.

  2. #22
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    Quote Originally Posted by Uzor View Post
    No one noticed the Break spell being added for RDM and SCH?

    I bet it will be very inaccurate and/or petrify for an entire 2 seconds, though.
    We knew about it already. Also BLM already had it and yes, it sucks. If you hit the mob, they 'wake up'.

  3. #23
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jornna View Post
    This putting much puts SCH/NIN as strong as a soloer/duoer now as RDM/NIN but SCH has access to better tier nukes.
    Not without bind/gravity

  4. #24
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    Didn't someone call "Tier II Circles" in the .dat minning thread?

    Fucking, I knew it was just stupid enough to be right.

    Also, My GF Was telling me "I'm sure the new Ifrit BP Will be a real strong Physical BP, he's the STR avatar, It has to be" and i've been saying "It'll be something retarded like "Virus" or "Plague""

    Fucking LOL @ Enfire, how more fucking useless could they have made that bloodpact? Garuda's Movement speed BP might be fun, at best, and Shivas..

    lol.. Evasion Down, Good lord, I knew they'd all be useless as shit~ Could have at least given poor Ifrit something useful... Enfire, Like people used Rolling Thunder, Ever.

    Also, MP > TP For avatar could be boss, Probably like Sublimation, Drains 2MP for 1 TP to Pet or something, And with Refreshes inside Abyssea it won't matter the MP lost for stronger BP Rages.

    THF Ability is pointless, but a nice effort, especially for Triggering, less TP Fed is always nice. Should be using a seperate TP mob but hey.

    RNG Getting a TH Shot is another nail shoved into THF's already buried coffin.

    Outside of that, Psyched about SCH additions 100%, Helps my SMN's sub job choice more now. Interested in seeing new stuff.

    Edit: LolGarudaSMNs, Lern2Shiva! Atma of Beyond > Life. Merit and win. Predater CLAWLs
    Edit2: While not super excited, I'm happy for this update. I should give up expecting anything good for THF to come, SE has them defined as a Dead-Support job thats only using is Shark Bite for Blue Triggering.

  5. #25
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bikpik View Post
    Not without bind/gravity
    Seems to me alot of new NMs are immune to bind/gravity so it wont really play that large of a rule. Plus if you duo, you just bounce hate anyways.

  6. #26
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    Oh god, if I weren't set on leveling mnk and sch before I am now.

    Also Enfire? Really? Damn it. I hope Fleeting Wind is at least 25% like mazurka/good bolter's.

  7. #27
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    So they finally seeing sense and added SS/Blink to SCH's arsenal. Perhaps they'll add SCH to Morrigan's whilst they're at it. /hater

    Pretty nice shit all 'round though... Was gonna level Smn first after update to get the shittier one out the way quickly, but hell, these new toys for the rest of ma jobs seem too nice.

  8. #28
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    Pretty... weird stuff ^^;

  9. #29
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    Stratagem: Immanence (SCH Lv.87)
    Makes it possible for your next elemental magic spell to be used in a skillchain, but not a magic burst.
    Occult Accumen on SCH finally explained?

  10. #30
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    All in all I'm pretty happy. SCH is getting a lot of new toys, and Garuda's BP doesn't suck. Not the best update for me, but it's better than nothing. At least I'm not THF, RDM, or DRK.

  11. #31
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    So I guess this update puts mnk & war even further ahead of the other DDs, and mnk above war pretty safely now. Shitty none of the other DDs get anything worth noting.

    And wtf @ the drg breath commands, does this mean drg is going to be able to heal w/o subbing mage now? Self sufficient Spirit Links would be nice.

  12. #32
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    Also with Stratagem: Immanence, SCHs could effectively self-SC and MB... WS (Omni/Ret) > Immanence > Whatevernuke > Alacrity > NukeforMB. And if this new spell truly is Regain, then all the better, lol...

  13. #33
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    Quote Originally Posted by Forte View Post
    All in all I'm pretty happy. SCH is getting a lot of new toys, and Garuda's BP doesn't suck. Not the best update for me, but it's better than nothing. At least I'm not THF, RDM, or DRK.
    Meh, people always bring up RDM but the thing is, RDM has always been strong as hell. Its hard for them to add much to the job without totally breaking it. RDM hasnt fallen behind, SCH is just catching up.

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    Khim will be my bitch now on DRK!!! Can't wait

  15. #35
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    If the current pattern continues then SCH will get 5 charges with 30 sec reuse timer at lvl 90 also.

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    migawari = substitute for, sacrifice of to
    probably some enfeeb that binds the enemy.

  17. #37
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    Quote Originally Posted by Damane View Post
    migawari = substitute for, sacrifice of to
    probably some enfeeb that binds the enemy.
    Its Earth based, apparently.

    My brother made a joke it would be "Reduces enemy Critical hit rate" (Criticals Related to DEX, DEX being thunder, Earth would debuff that), It sounds just stupid enough to actually work.

    Hey you're hitting a Wooden Log, You can't critical me!

    I mean, First Added Subtle Blow, Lowered TP Gain, Lowered.. Critical hit rate!

  18. #38
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    No matter what they do to SCH, it'll never come close to being as awesome as WHM these days.

  19. #39
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    Mokujin made me think it was stoneskin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amok View Post
    Mokujin made me think it was stoneskin.
    Pretty sure someone in the .dat thread said it was an Earth Based Debuff.

    I could be wrong though... or could have read it wrong.

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