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  1. #61
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucavi View Post
    Yeah, there's a lot of butthurt over nothing in that post. I'm happy with plenty of games, like TF2. It takes much more, however, to satisfy me in a game that I'm paying for on a monthly basis.

    You want more money out of me in the long run? Build a better game.
    This is a mmorpg, there's a major difference from single player or online shooters or whatever games.
    The good news is that mmorpg titles such as: final fantasy 14 constantly evolve and get better through updates and expansions so give it some time, i'm sure you'll be satisfied after waiting for a year or so.

  2. #62
    SayomiSassaki
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    Well this is nice, seems like these outfit will take the place of the Artifact 1 that you were getting at lvl 50-60 in FFXI. And well, the Artifact in FFXI wasn't all looking good, and theirs stats wasn't the best of all, each piece had a reason to be and so will be these. Anyway we all know that lvl 50 won't be the highest lvl we could get in FFXIV, so in the future these outfit will be nice to have free at lvl 50. ^^

  3. #63
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    Quote Originally Posted by SayomiSassaki View Post
    And well, the Artifact in FFXI wasn't all looking good.
    Uh... Maybe seeing them over and over for a long time or better gear over time changed your view of them, but I'm pretty sure most people were inspired to hit 50+ to start getting their artifact armor in 11. I don't think there is any inspiration in 14 yet for leveling up, other than assumption that there is a reason for it eventually.

  4. #64
    the whitest knight u' know
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    Storyline missions, class quests, and rewards from leves are the current incentives for leveling.

  5. #65
    SayomiSassaki
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    Well, the stats in the harlequin are more relate to the mage job... not like the artifact like i said who didnt have good stats to wear all the time

    Exemple with DRK Artifact :
    - Body who had VIT and HP, not really in use unless you solo or have a really bad tank lol
    - Legs with INT, only helpful a little when you use magic and with the number of spell you use in a fight your better with something else or put it in macro...
    - Feet with MND, who were only use when doing a WS who need MND...

    So at less the Harlequin have stats relate for the class (maybe exept for the Craftmanship...), maybe there is gear who is better to buy instead of using them, but in FFXI there was also better gear to buy instead of the Artifact, most of ppl where getting it only for said they have them or for use some of the piece...

    And speaking for myself, i dont really hate the appearance of the set and I never saw someone in a set who look like it. If there is one i would like to see it. ^^

  6. #66
    Ridill Ninja Lotter
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    Quote Originally Posted by SayomiSassaki View Post
    not like the artifact like i said who didnt have good stats to wear any of the time

    ftfy. FFXI AF was shit, and I'm pretty sure they've admitted as such. Who the fuck macroed in MND over acc/attack/STR on drk ws? Same w/ the body and VIT/HP, neither of which would do shit to save you since phys dmg calculations in XI were retarded enough to spawn Utsusemi tanking in the first place.

  7. #67
    SayomiSassaki
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZarakiKujata View Post
    ftfy. FFXI AF was shit, and I'm pretty sure they've admitted as such. Who the fuck macroed in MND over acc/attack/STR on drk ws? Same w/ the body and VIT/HP, neither of which would do shit to save you since phys dmg calculations in XI were retarded enough to spawn Utsusemi tanking in the first place.
    There was some WS who the damage has MND base, and they would do more damage when your MND was high and wouldnt change a lot if you had only STR, like Guillotine (STR25% ; MND25%) Cross reaper (STR 30% ; MND 30%) if you did those with only STR you will do damage, but if you would get some MND too you would do more dmg.

    For the VIT/HP i agree that it didnt help but there was still ppl using it for solo or switch to it when they get the hate in a party.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SayomiSassaki View Post
    if you did those with only STR you will do damage, but if you would get some MND too you would do more dmg.
    jesus christ, I mean its been 3 years so I don't remember all the WS dmg formulas but having MND in spots instead of STR/acc/attack or DEX seems wrong to me?

  9. #69
    SayomiSassaki
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZarakiKujata View Post
    jesus christ, I mean its been 3 years so I don't remember all the WS dmg formulas but having MND in spots instead of STR/acc/attack or DEX seems wrong to me?
    It's been some year i didn't play too (I didnt remember the % so I found them on ZAM ^^) And the idea wasn't to put MND in all your slot, but have a balance of STR and MND for the WS, there was multiple hit WS who need some acc too, to be sure to not miss one of the hit, but I tested it with and without MND and there was a difference of ~200-500 more dmg. And well if it wouldnt be of the macro equip + WS I would never took the time to swap MND item for a WS

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agito View Post
    This is a mmorpg, there's a major difference from single player or online shooters or whatever games.
    The good news is that mmorpg titles such as: final fantasy 14 constantly evolve and get better through updates and expansions so give it some time, i'm sure you'll be satisfied after waiting for a year or so.
    Hence the waiting until March, but thank you for that. Really.

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