NASA to Hold News Conference on Astrobiology Discovery

[Kaylia]

Finding bacteria on another planet is impossible at this point since no active mission involve something like this. It could only involve experiments done on Earth or extra-solar planet's atmosphere.

[Zoolander]

they still blue balled everyone, shouldnt have wasted what little public capital they had on this. Just announce it, no need for the buildup.

[Takedown3]

later this week wikileaks is planning on dumping 850,000 documents from various space agencies around the globe, the only details we've been given is that there are a substantial amount of very interesting discoveries that haven't been released to the public over the last 35 years.

[Silenka]

later this week wikileaks is planning on dumping 850,000 documents from various space agencies around the globe, the only details we've been given is that there are a substantial amount of very interesting discoveries that haven't been released to the public over the last 35 years.

Cannot wait for this if true, hoping it actually happens.

[BerenTebogo]

Wouldn't get your hopes up. 99% of the very interesting discoveries that happen wouldn't make sense to any person outside of the very narrow direct field of study.

Get ready for lots of "Oh wow we never knew benzyne could form molecular bonds in that structure! That's very interesting!"

[Shiroikage]

Wouldn't get your hopes up. 99% of the very interesting discoveries that happen wouldn't make sense to any person outside of the very narrow direct field of study.

Get ready for lots of "Oh wow we never knew benzyne could form molecular bonds in that structure! That's very interesting!"

It's probably closer to 100% than 99%.

[Silenka]

Wouldn't get your hopes up. 99% of the very interesting discoveries that happen wouldn't make sense to any person outside of the very narrow direct field of study.

Get ready for lots of "Oh wow we never knew benzyne could form molecular bonds in that structure! That's very interesting!"

Oh, but I would enjoy those kinds of discoveries. The conspiracy theorists are welcome to stick to the foreign government diplomacy cables, lol.

[Jefe]

This is not an argument if you are trying to say the odd is good. We know how organics molecules tend to assemble together, but we don't know to what extent, and which catalyst is required for life. You can have metaphysical argument, but truth is, we don't know the real odd as long we ignore the exact process.


The odd of seeing life emerge from that bottle is incredibly low (somewhere around 10^-300). There was obviously catalyst involved on Earth that can't be found in such soup, but we don't know them, and we don't know if the final odds is 99%, 1%, or 10^-10%.

Wat? What exactly are you arguing about? You are under the assumption that the calculations I posted equate to life. You need to read the post again.

[Takedown3]

did i really just troll the untrollables

[miokomioko]

If it wasn't disclosed, it must be incredibly relevant!

[Kaylia]

Wat? What exactly are you arguing about? You are under the assumption that the calculations I posted equate to life. You need to read the post again.

It doesn't seem like we're alone, folks.

Eh, you're the one who should go reread the posts.


Your first post implied that the odds of seeing life emerge from the "life experiment" was somewhere between 1 and 10^-15. If the odds is very low (10^-15 order), we might very well be alone.

Since we don't know the actual odds, the "life experiment" argument hold very little weight. We know the low limits of 10^-300, but we don't know how good exactly.,

[Jefe]

Are you an ESL student? Serious question.

(..)the life experiment will have been repeated 10^15 times.

[Kaylia]

So there are, what, about 10^20 stars like the sun? It is thought that about 10% of stars have planetary sys. Now if 1 in 10,000 of these planets is the right blah blah blah like earth, then the life experiment will have been repeated 10^15 times. It doesn't seem like we're alone, folks.

Your conclusion dude... The life experiment was repeated 10^15 times with an unknown odd. If that odds is fucking small, your conclusion is wrong.


It doesnt matter how many fucking time you roll the dice, if the the odd is low, you won't win.

[Jefe]

No shit Einstein, as if I was holding the fucking absolute truth in my hands. Are you seriously going to ride my cock because I mentioned that w/ a posibility of the "life experiment" repeating about 1,000,000,000,000,000, there could be a possibility of life? Gawd, someone call the fucking press lol.

[Kaylia]

Riding your cock? You're the one who replied with presumptuous bullshit everytime.

Please look more into 'the life' experiment.

You need to read the post again.

Are you an ESL student? Serious question.

Your original comments is wrong. It was an incomplete version of drake equation that was missing the key elements. I pointed it out in my first reply with a number that should speak for itself, but you decided to be a dick instead.

because I mentioned that w/ a posibility of the "life experiment" repeating about 1,000,000,000,000,000, there could be a possibility of life

You didn't mention a "possibility". Your post implied heavily that we are not alone.

Are you ESL to not understand the huge difference between "life can possibly emerge somewhere else" and "it doesn't seem like we're alone"? I don't care if you don't hold the truth in your hands, if you're making wrong science statement in a sciences thread, expect to be nitpicked.

[Jefe]

It does not seem likely that we are alone.

It appears that there's reasonable probability that we are not alone.

Opinions != facts, etc. Someone get this ESL guy a grammar book.

[Kaylia]

It does not seem likely that we are alone.

It appears that there's reasonable probability that we are not alone.

Someone get this ESL guy a grammar book.

The "life" factor of Drake equation varies between 10^-300 and 1. It is not reasonable unless you assume that the probability is extremely high, and we can't do that until we get better models of proof that life can easily emergy in a similar scenario.


This proof will probably be done in the next century if it can be done, but the "habitable world" is only half of the problem.

[Max™]

Well, you can assume that, but it isn't supported by data.

I can assume tiny pink elephants carry EM waves on their backs, but it isn't supported by data either.

[Kaylia]

Well, you can assume that, but it isn't supported by data.

I can assume tiny pink elephants carry EM waves on their backs, but it isn't supported by data either.

True, but that wouldnt be reasonable.

Omitting the most important statistical factor of a particular event is not okay.

Opinions != facts, etc.

No, but weak opinions don't have any place in sciences (or anywhere).


Why mention statistics about planets if you are planning to skip the most important part of the argument? If it was something you omited by mistake in the first post, fine, but your replies seem to indicate that you have no grasp of the issue in the first place.

[Jefe]

Lol you gotta be shitting me. Perhaps you need more dicks in your life, since you seem to be ok with it in a 'scientific' thread.

Definition of SEEM
intransitive verb
1
: to appear to the observation or understanding
2
: to give the impression of being