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  1. #1161
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rida View Post
    the time you wasted getting your KI back a BLU mage could have farmed an entire popset using charged whisker.
    http://operatorchan.org/k/arch/src/k...haha_ohwow.jpg

    almost sig-worthy, almost

  2. #1162
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    Pretty simple really, make it your sig Ill just make you look stupid by posting 20+ gold chests from one pull of all Taurii and gargoilles in Vunk, and Im pretty certain La theine is an easier zone.

    Like I said, a poor mans Demetrious....

  3. #1163
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    Quote Originally Posted by IronPandemonium View Post
    Well he's correct assuming capped lights. Without, no way.

    and Im pretty certain La theine is an easier zone.
    La Theine has many decent areas. I like damselflies if nobody is on them the most.

  4. #1164
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    I would assume everyone farming would cap lights. Considering I can cap lights on NIN in what 15 min tops a well oiled BLU could in half that time. 1 KI 1 NM vs. Capping light + whole popset no contest.

    Though Im sure Ill be asked for some proof.

  5. #1165
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    being the "i gotta see it to believe it" type my bst friend proved just how ungodly charged whisker can be.

    Friggin insanity lol .

  6. #1166
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    What atmas people use for it ? I have never played blu but have a couple of blu in shell.

  7. #1167
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    Lion/BlindingHorn/Ultimate

    replace Ultimate with Minikin if you feel MP is an issue (shouldn't be given temp items, ISLs and temp item boxes along with Convert).

  8. #1168
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    It doesnt degrade like BLM Ga spells do, so more mobs same damage ^^b.

    edit: and use Jupiters not sword.

  9. #1169
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    How much time are we seriously assuming it takes to make a Briareus set? Or how much time he wasted getting that 1 KI back?

    No matter how fast a BLU can kill, and I know it's fast, they do have to deal with repops and/or re-pulling. Plus there's the fact that Gold Pyxides more often than not have Temp Items, or Augmented Crap. Then you have to lower your potential for KIs even more when you take into account the fact that you'll also be seeing Carabosse and Hadhayosh pops in the chests. Oh and duplicates. Duplicates suck, especially if you're solo and/or otherwise don't have the room to hold the duplicate KIs.

    Charged Whiskering is too unreliable for my taste. Even when I have the option, I'll just blitz through the NMs for a guaranteed set rather than potentially waste my time not seeing any of the right KIs or losing KIs to duplication.

  10. #1170
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    takes me roughly 20-30min to make a full pop set on braireus, shorter if 1/1 on pop item or I'm buying them or 1/1 on proc from war or nin.

  11. #1171
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shenrien View Post
    takes me roughly 20-30min to make a full pop set on braireus, shorter if 1/1 on pop item or I'm buying them or 1/1 on proc from war or nin.
    About 20 minutes here, yeah. If we wanted to compare that to a BLU, it'd be a matter of luck. But to say that a BLU can farm an entire set "Faster than a NIN can reclaim and kill 1 KI NM" is ridiculous.

  12. #1172
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    Solution: BLU cleave gold boxes on the mobs that drop pop items > NIN Kills NMs while doing that.

  13. #1173
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greatguardian View Post
    About 20 minutes here, yeah. If we wanted to compare that to a BLU, it'd be a matter of luck. But to say that a BLU can farm an entire set "Faster than a NIN can reclaim and kill 1 KI NM" is ridiculous.
    wow, 20min seems a little fast considering the run times between pops. Though I never did bri rotations with less than 3 characters and that normally took me 100minutes w/ farming included (whm thf nin). And as to the whole KI debate, it seems extremely stupid to me to cleave for 1 KI considering its like a 1/16ish chance (before different % drop rate on certain gold box items is considered, I figure that KIs have a lower % than temps and shit like that). Would basically be luck if you got the KI faster than just doing the nm.

  14. #1174
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    I think hes just dumb for deaggroing with competition nearby and then crying cause they took his mob loool.

  15. #1175
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    Quote Originally Posted by Draylo View Post
    I think hes just dumb for deaggroing with competition nearby and then crying cause they took his mob loool.
    he's always been a bitch so pay him no mind, 30 min's seems right for about 3 pop sets takes my group about an hour to farm 8 pops per nm then kill 24 nm's then run back and kill 8 bri's hoping for 16 helms

  16. #1176
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raen Ryong View Post
    Well he's correct assuming capped lights.
    raenbro, i've gotta admit i've always valued your posts/input always, but this right here is wholly untrue; to go in-depth, example, when we first went on our first few tahrongi expeditions, we'd split cleaver lights accordingly (one dropped party after capping pearl, got amber capped as the other cleaver went and got azure capped with the rest of the people present), and even still with pure 30pearl/30amber cleaving, we'd only run into 1-2 key items per cleave, otherwise they were temp/augmented items

    in the end, we [without regret] swapped to purely cleaving time, getting up to 360 mins as we claim adze/minhocao freely during such, as our thf steadily gets quivering eggs, tailmeat, etc, and then us spawning the cockatrice/manticore accordingly after time/aids/minicow

    some things are debatable/arguable, but in the case of going manually for key items against amber-cleaving key item gathering, i'm 100% certain (paired with the fact of our +225 glavoid shell count in the span of three weeks, going on almost every second day) on giving a big fuck you to cleaving for key items

    Quote Originally Posted by Draylo View Post
    crying
    how am i anywhere along the lines of being on the bad end of the stick when i got my key item as intended, but with the included joy of watching random people make fools of themselves on the very same pop


    Quote Originally Posted by Odin'sLaw View Post
    he's always been a bitch so pay him no mind
    still salty over the past i see =(


    ANYWAYS, semi-on-topic,

    http://img806.imageshack.us/img806/3...hertsunami.png

    full timed, of course

    fucking jp at amun man, HOLY SHIT

    x2 elusive earrings right there btw

  17. #1177
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    so 27% haste + eva set? ok stun katana's are confusing but not sure why thats a terrible set

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    Quote Originally Posted by Odin'sLaw View Post
    so 27% haste + eva set? ok stun katana's are confusing but not sure why thats a terrible set
    he saw pink and most likely said "OMG GIMP"

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    Are you two being serious defending that?

  20. #1180
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fievel View Post
    Are you two being serious defending that?
    capped haste + eva build....can't not defend it i personally just don't like the weapon choices

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