Random Question Thread XVII: Toy Surprise Inside!

[rog]

might as well +2 the legs at least, would take all of 30minutes

Oh, that's from the orobon. Yeah, guess i'll +2 that then.

[Byrthnoth]

It's "say" text, I think.

Also, it's amazingly incredibly freaking useful. It has a very high proc rate if you legit-land the spell or WS, over 50%. Can use it on stuff like Ironclad to tell if your WSs were legit.

[Rehn]

Essential MNK artifact/relic pieces?

melee gaiters for counterstance
temple cyclas/+1 and melee gloves for chakra

The ones below aren't essential, but they can suit the situation well if you need it specifically:

temple gaiters/+1 macro in for dodge (can even keep on +1 version for evasion set)
melee cyclas for regen idle set
temple crown/+1 macro in for focus

[Kidnoftle]

I thought it just worked like this: If you use a WS 1-x times that isn't in any category or in blue category it will give you the blue proc message. If you cast succesively it will give you the yellow proc (I just spam through ele ni's until I see a message, it's usually about 1 run through if I don't ws). If you start trying for red after 1-x amount of attempts it loads the message. You're saying that everytime you use a potential proc it has a 50% chance of showing you the discernment message?

[Esvedium]

Essential MNK artifact/relic pieces?

AF body/Relic Hands (can +1 body for moar hp) for chakra
Relic Feet for Counterstance
Relic body for Idle

I don't usually have more than that out of storage, especially since the update with claim tickets.

[Raen Ryong]

RDM merits: What do at this point in the game?

For Group 1, is Convert recast a complete waste? I rarely find myself in situations where I need to use it, but I'm not sure about non-abyssea ventures. Also, for macc, I would think 5/5 in ice/earth for slow/para, but what about considering fire for addle, or wind for grav/silence? Could maybe do 3/5 ice/earth 2/5 wind/fire... I dunno.

I can almost guarantee you that the list of situations you'd need other macc merits is even less than those you'd need Convert Recast. Convert recast helps greatly outside Abyssea and inside can allow you to choose more offensive Atma choices, occasionally save you from Oshit situations etc.

[Cream Soda]

Essential MNK artifact/relic pieces?

af: head, body, hands(boooooooost), feet
af2: feet, hands, body(if you ever rest)

[Pandorablue]

I can almost guarantee you that the list of situations you'd need other macc merits is even less than those you'd need Convert Recast. Convert recast helps greatly outside Abyssea and inside can allow you to choose more offensive Atma choices, occasionally save you from Oshit situations etc.

Minikin doesn't count as offensive with all that INT? and even if I do 5/5 convert recast, what do I do with the other 5? spread it out to earth/ice/wind/fire? Sounds feasible I guess. As for Group 2, I think I'm just gonna wait and see what I end up using my RDM for.

[Massimo]

Ice/Convert like always. And while Minkin is a good damage boost with 50 INT, there's other atmas that provide better damage, which makes them better in nuke-zerg type situations.

[takito09]

Sounds like a random number someone pulled out of thin air. Where did you read/hear it at?

From a friend who triod chloris and his whm always seemed to heal doom ( lucky ... perhaps...)

I'll keep curing undead until i cap D:

[Mercilessturtle]

Nothing has changed for rdm merits, 5 convert, 5 ice, 1 slow2, 1 para2, 2 dia3, put the other 6 where ever you want because they don't matter.

[rog]

Ice/Convert like always. And while Minkin is a good damage boost with 50 INT, there's other atmas that provide better damage, which makes them better in nuke-zerg type situations.

Not by a whole hell of a lot, unless you have pw atma. And even then, minikin wins anyway due to refresh, unless you're only doing one fight or something.

[Marcicus]

Along with my Snow Gem question, did anyone ever figure out how the set bonus on Lancer+2 gear worked?

[Massimo]

Not by a whole hell of a lot, unless you have pw atma. And even then, minikin wins anyway due to refresh, unless you're only doing one fight or something.

10/tic refresh doesn't really matter if you have meds and are chainspelling something down. I always use Minkin, don't get me wrong, but it's still situationally beat by the MAB ones.

[Francisco]

Sorta asked this before, but I want to rephrase it.

Can High Kindred Crests even drop outside of abyssea?

Killed shit-tons of demons (level 81-84) in regular Uleguerand and the new level 86-87 eyes - and didn't get a damn thing...

[Dakana]

Sorta asked this before, but I want to rephrase it.

Can High Kindred Crests even drop outside of abyssea?

Killed shit-tons of demons (level 81-84) in regular Uleguerand and the new level 86-87 eyes - and didn't get a damn thing...

I got one off some mob in xarc [s] so they do drop outside abyssea

[Byrthnoth]

I'm fairly sure I got them off T crawlers in Rolanberry [S]. That would probably be a good place to farm them.

[spider123]

Is everyone getting their MNK body seals off the VNM in Grauberg, or is there some NM (aside from the Ironclad) that I'm unaware of?

[Byrthnoth]

I thought it just worked like this: If you use a WS 1-x times that isn't in any category or in blue category it will give you the blue proc message. If you cast succesively it will give you the yellow proc (I just spam through ele ni's until I see a message, it's usually about 1 run through if I don't ws). If you start trying for red after 1-x amount of attempts it loads the message. You're saying that everytime you use a potential proc it has a 50% chance of showing you the discernment message?

My impression is that ~50-100% of the time when you use a WS and it lands at a time that it could theoretically proc (no TP move or Magic, though it doesn't have to be a proccable WS), it will give you the discernment message. Shinryu is Ironclad-esque, but you can see this if you spam Dia on him. I haven't tested it on non-Shinryu mobs yet. Anyway, getting the message is a good way to tell that you've landed it at a proccable time. We use this to tell us to move on to the next WS. It lets you know that you've landed at a time where the WS would have procced, if it could have. It is hard for me to estimate what the message proc rate is, because I've only been doing Shinryu. On other things it'd be easier to be confident that you landed or didn't land a WS.

Really cuts down on the WS-ing time and "awww, I think that one looked clean" statements.


Also, I've reconsidered about Dark Depths. The Triple Attack Atma or some combination of Double Attack and STP is likely better unless your pDIF is crap.

[Dominico]

Need some help making an Evisceration set, as I'm pretty new/retarded on THF. So far I had this in mind:

Ammo: Fire Bomblet?
Head: Lightsome Cap? (Will the acc-9 hurt that bad?) Don't have Maat's/N Head.
Ear: Brutal/??? Don't have Pixie.
Body: Dragon Harness? No Loki's yet.
Hands: N Hands
Ring: Jupiter's/Rajas
Back: Nifty Mantle
Belt: Warwolf
Legs: Raiders +1??? No N Legs.
Feet: Hecatomb