Additions and Adjustments Galore! (12/06/2010)

[CubsWoo]

Is it just me or is this starting to feel like they're making everything a bit TOO easy? As frustrating as camping something can be, that's the nature of the game. I was equally frustrated on Amun or t2 vnm pot but you persist and eventually succeed. I guess if spoon-feeding is what everyone wants we'll see a lot of people quit because they accomplished all their goals so quickly.

We don't know the difficulty or bottlenecks that Heroes gives us. Maybe their way of doing this is easing the bottlenecks once new content is released so they can get more people progressing forward after the first few months?

[Gunitsoldier]

Would be cool to see NQ's and maybe even +1 Af3 drop in dynamis... But thank god for the lowering of the trials!

No.

[roflman]

Why has it taken so long for the dev team to become epic?

[Cream Soda]

- Trigger conditions for certain NMs will be eased

I hope this means that you don't need 4 fuckin items to pop Chloris anymore

[Dooom]

Now I'm just confused...I figured Phoenix was just being shitty or something when everyone talked about Heqet this camped, but now you're here claiming it's that camped too, yet every we've gone in (basically any time except ~4/5 AM until 9-10 AM), we've had no issues getting Heqet or any other NM. Heqet is up roaming for significant periods of time, etc. The only NM we've ever seen camped this bad is Amun, and I've still only seen one time on Amun that it felt like anything resembling Aery.

really? haha, guess my luck just suck then. Almost every time I've gone to check on Heqet it's been camped by considerable groups. I know quite a few people working on Masamune in my LS, and they're reporting the same as I'm seeing.

I've personally had more trouble with a specific 3 popped NMs than I have any roaming-KI dropping NM. Said 3 popped NMs are Baba Yaga, LaTheine Leige, and Carabosse. Every time anyone in my LS went there, there were other groups trying to fight them pretty much.

Whereas I've only had it once where someone was fighting one of these NMs when I or a friend or someone in LS went to pop them, lol. Funny how our experiences differ so much despite being on the same server.

Is it just me or is this starting to feel like they're making everything a bit TOO easy?

camping =/= difficulty.

[Sho]

Is it just me or is this starting to feel like they're making everything a bit TOO easy? As frustrating as camping something can be, that's the nature of the game. I was equally frustrated on Amun or t2 vnm pot but you persist and eventually succeed. I guess if spoon-feeding is what everyone wants we'll see a lot of people quit because they accomplished all their goals so quickly.

I actually feel the same way, bro. However, the game was set to easy mode the minute Scars was released, to be honest. People are just complaining to complain now if anything. Even amongst all of the bitching about timed NMs and claiming, this is MUCH easier than camping Aery/Dominion/Valley or doing Dynamis for 2+ hrs for little reward over the course of 5+ years.

[Kaslo]

Think of it this way.

When the 99 cap comes and the mobs pop IT (so thats what... 106? 108?) If that group fighting leaves those mobs will eventually depop to the ones a lvl 75 could actually have a chance of fighting.

Except that at 99 nothing will pop IT.

[Yugl]

Awesome!

[Byrthnoth]

as of today, you'll have that back, since you can store individual items. no need to do dynamis to complete it. or you could be smart, and just toss the junk pieces u dont use, and keep the ONE you do.

I'd give you good odds that the "storable on a piece by piece basis" stuff will be Abyssea +2 pieces. Also, I forgot that I have 4/5 BST too! So make that 19 slots back!

I'd drop shit, but I don't actually need the space badly enough and jobs I'm not using taking 0 slots is a lot better than 5 slots.

[benny]

I've personally had more trouble with a specific 3 popped NMs than I have any roaming-KI dropping NM. Said 3 popped NMs are Baba Yaga, LaTheine Leige, and Carabosse. Every time anyone in my LS went there, there were other groups trying to fight them pretty much.

This... Time NMs are pretty annoying too but almost every time I zone into La Theine there's a group of 3-5 ppl fighting Carabosse, and sometimes other groups waiting in line behind them too.

[Guitarman]

was really hoping for more out of WoE. I'm willing to deal with the shit rates, its the leechers that's the problem. would a nyzul isle style system for WoE be that bad?

[Gunitsoldier]

I hope this means that you don't need 4 fuckin items to pop Chloris anymore

This times a million, fucking annoying KI's are fucking annoying.

@Failure:
Srsly? Complaining over Masa? REALLY? The thing is beyond easy to get and still complain? REALLY NOW?

[NynJa]

- Quests in Abyssea – Konschtat offered by the NPC Ayame will be available to players regardless of current fame.

wtf does this mean?
Both of Ayame's quests are rank 1, as are all of the quests that become available once you do her quests.

[Ayn]

I was telling my LS that they could rejoice in not having to hear me bitch anymore about trials when I finished this weekend. One retorted with "But will we get to hear you bitch when they lower the requirement on Monday?"

I logged with 670ish left for the last Apoc trial. If they lower it even to 1500, that's a hell of a lot better than what I had to deal with before.

I actually feel the same way, bro. However, the game was set to easy mode the minute Scars was released, to be honest. People are just complaining to complain now if anything. Even amongst all of the bitching about timed NMs and claiming, this is MUCH easier than camping Aery/Dominion/Valley or doing Dynamis for 2+ hrs for little reward over the course of 5+ years.

I miss the Aery. With the fishies and the lake and the scenic run through the tree.

[Hyan]

Where the fk are the update notes? >__>;

[danpelope]

I'd give you good odds that the "storable on a piece by piece basis" stuff will be Abyssea +2 pieces.

Except that SE wrote the following in regards to the porter moogles:

MHMU-certified Porter Moogles will soon be dispatched to the areas listed below to provide storage services for some of your most prized gear, such as those of the Artifact and Relic persuasions, as well as pieces acquired via Limbus and Salvage forays.

[ronin sparthos]

wtf does this mean?
Both of Ayame's quests are rank 1, as are all of the quests that become available once you do her quests.

You needed to do Refuel and Replenish in order to unlock "Rose on the Heath" which was a cockblock because no one uses martellos often enough for them to require refuels.

[Cream Soda]

You needed to do Refuel and Replenish in order to unlock "Rose on the Heath" which was a cockblock because no one uses martellos often enough for them to require refuels.

It's not as bad as everyone makes it seem unless you don' thave friends willing to spend 2 minutes on you.

Grab 5 friends, the 6 of you use the martello to restore mp once, bam below 89%, quest done.

[Isiolia]

Is it just me or is this starting to feel like they're making everything a bit TOO easy? As frustrating as camping something can be, that's the nature of the game. I was equally frustrated on Amun or t2 vnm pot but you persist and eventually succeed. I guess if spoon-feeding is what everyone wants we'll see a lot of people quit because they accomplished all their goals so quickly.

Depends on what. Camping an NM amounts to sitting around hoping you get to actually play the game you're paying to play. To a (much lesser) point, even popped NMs can be like that, if you need to wait on other groups or something.

Challenge should be in the actual content...which admittedly is a bit less so with Atmas and things...but another way to look at it is that proc'ing !!s and such is harder to do than just rushing something down (or slowly killing it from a distance in some cases), but also generally more rewarding.

I think this is less due to spoon-feeding, and more due to actually trying to do something about overcrowding before it becomes a major problem as it had been with...most other popular events in endgame at one time or another.

[FailureMidgard]

@Failure:
Srsly? Complaining over Masa? REALLY? The thing is beyond easy to get and still complain? REALLY NOW?

I'm not complaining at all, and when I did mine, it was before the rush. But I've helped 2 friends in LS with it more recently, and I'm merely stating a fact that it's far harder to pop any of the 3 Carabosse NMs than it is to claim -any- free-roaming KI dropping NM, which seem to sit up for 30min at a time unclaimed all the time unless -we- are camping it. Nobody seems the least bit dedicated to it. I'm just stating the facts. Everyone here is saying that these free-roaming NMs are camped like Aery, and I'm saying that I've seen far more competition at Carabosse than I have at them. As a side note, Pascerpot seems to be more heavily camped than Heqet...there's -always- a group there spam popping it.