Tomb Raider

**Souj** · 2013-03-16 21:41

Just picked up the game tonight and started playing it.
This isn't really a complaint about Tomb Raider as it is about all video games;
Why do all video games now need to splash blood/water on the screen as if there is a literal camera following the player? I can see it's raining, I don't need little annoying spots of water on the screen to let me know that it is.
If it did something to the gameplay, like if it was a rain storm or something that obscures your vision, fine I understand that, but why does seemingly every video game do this?
Is this a feature people complain about if it's missing from a game? Or is this just some odd thing every company decided to put in for no reason other than because someone put it in a game a long time ago and everyone's just done it since for no reason other than to not be different? Personally it immediately takes me right out of the game. Literally as well as figuratively in this case as I'm sitting here typing this out with Tomb Raider on pause god damn it.

I've seen it done really well one time in I think it was God of War 3? Might be wrong on that. But it's telling you to smash a button to punch somebody's face in and as you do blood flies into the screen. You can stop smashing the button after like the second time, but if you keep going, you'll end up with the entire screen covered in blood.
That was God of War 3, right?

**Grey Jorildyn** · 2013-03-16 22:22

It's called immersion. Action games these days use camera splatter to convey life/health. It has the added benefit of saving them from having to display a UI element (usually an ugly bar). I hated it at first too but it grew on me.

**Souj** · 2013-03-16 23:19

Originally Posted by Grey Jorildyn

It's called immersion. Action games these days use camera splatter to convey life/health. It has the added benefit of saving them from having to display a UI element (usually an ugly bar). I hated it at first too but it grew on me.

I'm not talking about the red that shows when you take damage. I'm talking about rain drops on the screen.

**Grey Jorildyn** · 2013-03-16 23:40

First sentence!

**notorious bum** · 2013-03-16 23:46

This game actually pulls the distortion visuals off very well. When it gets windy, foggy, blizzard, etc. your vision is obscured enough for it to actually make you aim and, as mentioned, immerses you in the game.

Immersion is superb in this game, not just because the graffix are sexy, the execution is the best I've seen since....RE4? Maybe the first Dead Space, too.

**Ksandra** · 2013-03-16 23:47

Originally Posted by Moridam

but all of the documents/relics/caches & area challenges should be accessible after beating the game.

Thanks! ya it's just for completion sake. I will probably do a "trophy run" sometime in the future, but since I've gone pretty far in getting most of the areas capped already, I wanted to know if I needed to keep at it before beating the game or not.

**Souj** · 2013-03-17 00:10

Originally Posted by Grey Jorildyn

First sentence!

"It's called immersion" isn't a very good rebuttal when my argument is "it takes me out of the game."

**Grey Jorildyn** · 2013-03-17 00:35

Originally Posted by Souj

"It's called immersion" isn't a very good rebuttal when my argument is "it takes me out of the game."

I just gave the objective answer to every question you asked in your post. I could say "the developer feels it adds immersion" if that makes you feel better. Sounds like it's just something you personally don't like.

**Souj** · 2013-03-17 16:27

Do all British pronounce Edo with a long E or just Lara?
fucking things up with the bow feels pretty great in this game.
Hope I get more stuff to upgrade though. I'm sitting on a bunch of salvage atm.

**djzombie** · 2013-03-17 17:26

Originally Posted by Souj

"It's called immersion" isn't a very good rebuttal when my argument is "it takes me out of the game."

Originally Posted by Grey Jorildyn

I just gave the objective answer to every question you asked in your post. I could say "the developer feels it adds immersion" if that makes you feel better. Sounds like it's just something you personally don't like.

I actually really liked the screen effects in the game, and thought that it added a greater depth of immersion to the game because it actually effected my aim as well as the rate i could navigate obstacles, it just made it feel like the weather was more than just eye candy.

**Xerlic** · 2013-03-18 08:35

Originally Posted by Moridam

there's a trophy for having conversations with the crew members throughout the game that's easily missable, and the convos start very early on. i'm also guessing if you didn't get the zipline kills trophy by the time you finish the story, you'll need to start a new file as i never encountered any ziplining enemies in my postgame wrap-up.

I guess talking to crew members is the last secret achievement for me. As much as I liked the game, I'm not going to restart a new file just for that achievement.

I think you have 2 major encounters to get the zipline kills:

Spoiler: show

I don't remember seeing a large number of zipline enemies outside of those 2 times.

I also believe the achievement for rope pulling 5 guys off of ledges is missable as well.

Originally Posted by Souj

Hope I get more stuff to upgrade though. I'm sitting on a bunch of salvage atm.

You will. The cost of the upgrades eventually outpaces the rate at which you collect salvage.

**hey** · 2013-03-18 09:21

Originally Posted by Souj

Do all British pronounce Edo with a long E or just Lara?
fucking things up with the bow feels pretty great in this game.
Hope I get more stuff to upgrade though. I'm sitting on a bunch of salvage atm.

I think it's fairly common for non-japanese people to have no idea how to pronounce Japanese words.

**Salodin** · 2013-03-18 10:05

Originally Posted by hey

I think it's fairly common for non-japanese people to have no idea how to pronounce Japanese words.

I thought this when I heard it, but then the next edo period treasure I found was pronounced correctly. Wasnt a big deal but I chuckled.

**Burningthought** · 2013-03-18 16:12

Finally finished the game. I was impressed. I like the new direction the series is going in.

**Salodin** · 2013-03-18 19:24

Finally took time from SC2 to finish this game. Gave up on 100% once I realized I wasn't going to get any new gameplay items, so I finished with a 94%. Don't know how people had xp and salvage shortages, I completed the game with all weapons 100%, and almost 500 salvage left over. If you get the ability to collect salvage from dead bodys you start rolling in it. Never once was I short salvage.

**Reality** · 2013-03-19 03:33

Some screenshots that are pretty nice that I took tonight, as well as my benchmark scores (2560x1440, maxed settings + tressFx, FXAA with Ultra FXAA set in RadeonPro, along with maxed Texture Detail and LOD)

Spoiler: show

**Ksandra** · 2013-03-19 19:39

I just beat the game. I has sad now. ;_;

Ending spoiler:

Spoiler: show

**Amiricle** · 2013-03-20 01:07

Originally Posted by Ksandra

I just beat the game. I has sad now. ;_;

Ending spoiler:

Spoiler: show

Just beat it as well and yea, that finale was brilliantly done. Absolutely loved this game and the next TR game they do is a preorder day 1 buy for me.
97% completion. I missed the rope pull and zipline kill trophies as well as the crew one.

**Mythe_Seraph** · 2013-03-20 23:02

Dang, so I redboxed this game last night and played it all night and then some of today since my internship doesn't happen due to spring break. I think it was a really fun game. I can't see myself spending $60 on it to have it but it was really fun for what it was. I really hope they make another one and I really really hope they expand on the multiplayer element of the game. I played maybe two matches and it was fun but kind of lack-luster. The character selection and acquisition seemed really tough though, like that Samurai guy is prestige 3? I don't see many people playing it that much to get that high of a rank, I'm sure someone will but definitely not for every player.

Anyways, 7 hrs completion time and 70% completion rate. Started getting antsy and stopped exploring every area because I had homework to do and wanted to finish it up and return it so I didn't have to pay a two day fee.

**notorious bum** · 2013-03-20 23:12

If it was alot harder, it would've been worth the $60. Especially if the optional tombs were complex and involved more than 1-2 simple tasks. I bet the sequel will have them, I saw alot of the same complaining in reviews.

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