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  1. #1101
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    Quote Originally Posted by Michelob View Post
    So selling an item is extortion now? Sounds to me more like a market economy. In case you didn't realize, the developers even implemented a currency in the game called "gil" that was created for the sole purpose of item trade between players.
    I'll concede that "Extort" isn't an accurate term, but I was trying to point out that when you reply to a request with just "50k" you come off like a douche. Then when people respond to that angrily, you forfeit the ability to say anything about it. Provoking someone then making fun of them for being provoked is just... bullying? Draylo mentioned it was a joke bid but in no way did it read like a joke, that's all.

  2. #1102
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyall View Post
    I'll concede that "Extort" isn't an accurate term, but I was trying to point out that when you reply to a request with just "50k" you come off like a douche. Then when people respond to that angrily, you forfeit the ability to say anything about it. Provoking someone then making fun of them for being provoked is just... bullying? Draylo mentioned it was a joke bid but in no way did it read like a joke, that's all.
    I understand what you are saying, however I really don't see how asking for gil in return (or even saying no regardless) is being a douche. Just because many people out there are nice enough to give people things they don't need or want doesn't mean people should expect the same from everyone else. I can't tell you how many times I've killed something like Rani selling Epona's Rings and had people spam /tells at me while I'm trying to keep myself alive (2box) and blue !! it saying "invite me for win please" and when I tell them "sorry, I'm busy right now" and end up killing it they freak out on me telling me how much of an asshole I am for not inviting them. While I admit it would've been nice of me to invite them, I don't see how not inviting them is me being an asshole. Same mentality is being applied here in my eyes with the seals.

  3. #1103
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyall View Post
    I'll concede that "Extort" isn't an accurate term, but I was trying to point out that when you reply to a request with just "50k" you come off like a douche. Then when people respond to that angrily, you forfeit the ability to say anything about it. Provoking someone then making fun of them for being provoked is just... bullying? Draylo mentioned it was a joke bid but in no way did it read like a joke, that's all.
    Honestly, people come across as douches asking in the first place without offering something in return (which by no means has to be accepted but at least offered). It's people that try to freeload off of others that are truly douche bags, whether it be someone trying to leech off a group claiming a monster or being superior players. Just as a disagreement to your conception of naming a price as provoking.

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    Valid points all around, I guess we just chalk this one up to varying opinions about what's acceptable communications. No harm no foul; I agree to a point that people shouldn't just expect seals from anyone else's NM, but I personally wouldn't have made a "joke" about it costing any money.

    To each their own, though. What's done is done, blah blah blah etcetera.

  5. #1105
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    Lighten up it was funny :/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Draylo View Post
    Lighten up it was funny :/
    ur face is funneh

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    Quote Originally Posted by Draylo View Post
    Lighten up it was funny :/
    I disagree. An easily misunderstood conversation wherein your punchline is "lol u mad bro?" doesn't equal entertainment. Very creative though.

    I guess.

    Or something.

  8. #1108
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyall View Post
    I disagree. An easily misunderstood conversation wherein your punchline is "lol u mad bro?" doesn't equal entertainment. Very creative though.

    I guess.

    Or something.
    Or you are a hard ass and should stop posting?

  9. #1109
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    Ironic.

  10. #1110
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    Geez this is still being talked about.

  11. #1111
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    Here's some random fail. My account got closed due to unpaid fees even though I have money on my visa and this month should be free.

  12. #1112
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    Quote Originally Posted by Myrrh_Quetz View Post
    Here's some random fail. My account got closed due to unpaid fees even though I have money on my visa and this month should be free.
    Same thing happened to me and a lot of other people.

    There's topics on the Official site and Alla also.

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    Good to know i'm not the only one effected by this stupidity of SE. I wouldn't have any issue but I fucking forgot my POL because shit, why not have 19 fucking passwords for a video game.

  14. #1114
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    Random Fail on my part. I had Welfare blisted so I thought this guy was arguing with me but he was arguing with Welfare.

    http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f2...402_154100.png

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    There is nothing fail about having Welfare on your blacklist. The real fail is that the other guy doesn't have him on blist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Myrrh_Quetz View Post
    Here's some random fail. My account got closed due to unpaid fees even though I have money on my visa and this month should be free.
    Hey, when they said it was free, they didn't say you can play for free. Problem? I think not.

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    Chalk it up to silly translations. "FF free in April" actually meant "FF-free in April."

    Stupid language barriers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuishen View Post
    Random Fail on my part. I had Welfare blisted so I thought this guy was arguing with me but he was arguing with Welfare.

    http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f2...402_154100.png
    haha i saw that retard complaining this morning and it took me a minute to realize what was going on. i have welfare blisted on 3 chars >.>;

  19. #1119
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    Valefor's been fun lately... part of it's 'cause I haven't bothered to block Welfare, but he provides me with a good deal of amusement between the annoyances, so... yeah.

    Story before pics since I forgot to SS the first part. :c

    There's this guy who's constantly on /anon WHM60+ (judging by gear), Hashhman. He sits in PJ and shouts all day for people to do stuff for him or tell him where to go. He shouted about fifteen times "Where is Garlaige Citadel" "Can someone take me to Garlaige Citadel" before this. He doesn't actually spell it that well... as you'll see in the first screenshot earlier. The other day he was shouting for people to GIVE him WHM defense gear for Maat. Not sell, give.

    So, in the first part of the screenshot that I missed, he was shouting for someone to take him to "Cape Terongy" which is where this fun begins:



    And then just the little tidbit for everyone's amusement, I think we've all just wanted to scream this but applaud the idiot for doing so. :D


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    "You're named after your main source of income."

    lol

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