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  1. #81
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    Not sure if anyone noticed this, but after the update, even being lv90, my THF seems much less evasive than few days ago. Being consistently hit by EP mobs makes me wonder if SE either lowered THF EVA bonus or messed up in AGI calculation when it comes to evasion bonus when they were introducing Subtle Blow? Any thoughts?

  2. #82
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    Maybe they can tell us the damn Pet-Food-Eta biscuit Recipe now?

  3. #83
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    Quote Originally Posted by Karbuncle View Post
    Maybe they can tell us the damn Pet-Food-Eta biscuit Recipe now?
    Earth Crystal

    * 1 x Lizard Egg
    * 1 x Coeurl Meat
    * 1 x San d'Orian Flour
    * 1 x Distilled Water

    This is Zetas, If it followed how the ones before it, and how I stupid easy it was to figure out the Normal non Synergy Cooking recipes for Lucky Carrot and other jugs 6 months ago,

    Start Subbing the Meat and maybe the Flour(Rye? Buckwheat I think is one? or Poison Flour thing from Gobs).

    Ziz meat? (-.-) Dragon Meat? Cerb Meat? Ruszor Meat? maybe? none on my AH

    Its not,

    Buffalo Meat
    Lynx Meat
    Karakul Meat
    Orobon Meat
    Hydra Meat
    Smilodon Liver

    I tested them.

    I recall hearing something in the update about Ziz Meat for a jug, most likely that too for the food.

    The newest synergy jugs should work with normal synth, Mellow Bird has gelatin in it like tiger, so it should be water crystal. You may have to adjust the quantity tho or remove an extra item(one less egg?).

    At this time I haven't attempted to make any, but I will later tonight.

    Edit: Jackass other crook-cooks trying to jack the prices of the new jug pets. Come to me with the ingredients when I'm on if on my server(Quetzalcoatl, Sagecal). I'll craft for free. I find you turn it around for profit tho, I'll cut you off, and flood the market, killing your future profits. I be a cook for the bsts, not thfs.

  4. #84
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    Has anyone experienced procing red !! on something with an Atma and not getting Atma? During one of our Sippoy fights last night we proced red !! and then killed. We had multiple people who didn't have Atma, and no one got it. I know for a fact that only one red !! was proced.

  5. #85
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    I'd like to know too Calintzpso, a friend of mine was asking. Also same deal with jugs, catch me not busy with mats, ye bsts, and I'll make 'em for your own use. Sell and I'll find a way to ruin the market for you; I do have a jueno mule so I could proly drown the market. ^^

    Oh and just so people know; my chara name is the same name as my username, Elizara.

  6. #86
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zirael View Post
    Not sure if anyone noticed this, but after the update, even being lv90, my THF seems much less evasive than few days ago. Being consistently hit by EP mobs makes me wonder if SE either lowered THF EVA bonus or messed up in AGI calculation when it comes to evasion bonus when they were introducing Subtle Blow? Any thoughts?
    I feel appropriately more evasive than I did a few days ago on Dancer, but I picked up 30 skill and upgraded my AGI dagger to 90.

  7. #87
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    Quote Originally Posted by Calintzpso View Post
    Earth Crystal

    * 1 x Lizard Egg
    * 1 x Coeurl Meat
    * 1 x San d'Orian Flour
    * 1 x Distilled Water

    This is Zetas, If it followed how the ones before it, and how I stupid easy it was to figure out the Normal non Synergy Cooking recipes for Lucky Carrot and other jugs 6 months ago,

    Start Subbing the Meat and maybe the Flour(Rye? Buckwheat I think is one? or Poison Flour thing from Gobs).

    Ziz meat? (-.-) Dragon Meat? Cerb Meat? Ruszor Meat? maybe? none on my AH

    Its not,

    Buffalo Meat
    Lynx Meat
    Karakul Meat
    Orobon Meat
    Hydra Meat
    Smilodon Liver

    I tested them.

    I recall hearing something in the update about Ziz Meat for a jug, most likely that too for the food.

    The newest synergy jugs should work with normal synth, Mellow Bird has gelatin in it like tiger, so it should be water crystal. You may have to adjust the quantity tho or remove an extra item(one less egg?).

    At this time I haven't attempted to make any, but I will later tonight.

    Edit: Jackass other crook-cooks trying to jack the prices of the new jug pets. Come to me with the ingredients when I'm on if on my server(Quetzalcoatl, Sagecal). I'll craft for free. I find you turn it around for profit tho, I'll cut you off, and flood the market, killing your future profits. I be a cook for the bsts, not thfs.
    There was a lot of testing done on FFXIAH too, No luck either. shame.

  8. #88
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    Quote Originally Posted by AzazaelFenrir View Post
    Has anyone experienced procing red !! on something with an Atma and not getting Atma? During one of our Sippoy fights last night we proced red !! and then killed. We had multiple people who didn't have Atma, and no one got it. I know for a fact that only one red !! was proced.
    Only if Proc person left the zone or something of that sort or they disbanded and they had it already. Also wont get if the mob went yellow normally we have not gotten the atma when one of these have occurerd...

  9. #89
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    Quote Originally Posted by Calintzpso View Post
    I find you turn it around for profit tho, I'll cut you off, and flood the market, killing your future profits. I be a cook for the bsts, not thfs.
    Ironically, the two classes that received a separate update page?

  10. #90
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    Quote Originally Posted by kenshyn View Post
    Only if Proc person left the zone or something of that sort or they disbanded and they had it already. Also wont get if the mob went yellow normally we have not gotten the atma when one of these have occurerd...
    Person didn't leave or disband. Never had heard of it not dropping if proccer had it (though he didn't)

  11. #91
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    Quote Originally Posted by AzazaelFenrir View Post
    Person didn't leave or disband. Never had heard of it not dropping if proccer had it (though he didn't)
    If the proc leaves the party and he had the atma no one would get the atma. Did the mob ever go yellow? if not its just a random guess that !! isn't 100% more like 99%ish...

  12. #92
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zirael View Post
    Not sure if anyone noticed this, but after the update, even being lv90, my THF seems much less evasive than few days ago. Being consistently hit by EP mobs makes me wonder if SE either lowered THF EVA bonus or messed up in AGI calculation when it comes to evasion bonus when they were introducing Subtle Blow? Any thoughts?
    I'm very happy with how evasive my 90 thf is

  13. #93
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    A) My thf seems quite evasive at 86 still, so unless it's a specific bug with THF87-90, I think it's just you.

    B) When we did Eccentric Eve, we proced Red, no one left party, mob didn't go passive, still no atma. Red !! is not 100%, just very likely.

  14. #94
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    Red proc has never been a 100% for KI/Atma/Abyssites. It boosts the chances to extremely high, but it's never been 100%, you probably just got your luck shat on, it happens. =/

  15. #95
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    Has anyone noticed difficulty with leveling abyssea mob groups up? Yesterday my ls and me were gonna go aoe kill chigoes for quick exp. When we arrived all the mobs were popped as EP so when we aoe killed them a bunch of chests would pop but 0 exp. well after an hour later (and 5 or 6 tunga repops that we had to kill) those chigoes had barely leveled up to DC mobs and were only giving 20 per kill. needless to say that run did not work.

    however when we swapped to worms and were killing them they leveled up from dc to IT within 2 or 3 kills (so like 10-20 minutes).

    has anyone actually encountered the chigoes in attohwa as IT's since the update? is there something i'm not understanding about the way mobs level up?

  16. #96
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    I had never seen a red not give anything. Oh wells, thanks all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rog View Post
    Are you using windower?
    Yea, using windower. Not using spellcast or anything other than the basic plugins (Timestamp, distance, party TP). Still crashing on me when I shutdown.

  18. #98
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dominico View Post
    Yea, using windower. Not using spellcast or anything other than the basic plugins (Timestamp, distance, party TP). Still crashing on me when I shutdown.
    Distance has always been borked for me when shutting down, I have to do //unload distance before a /shutdown or POL crashes. Doesn't matter if it's in or out of mog house. Actually I made an alias for //shutdown to handle both, but meh. Try unloading distance first and see how it works for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fiarlia View Post
    Distance has always been borked for me when shutting down, I have to do //unload distance before a /shutdown or POL crashes. Doesn't matter if it's in or out of mog house. Actually I made an alias for //shutdown to handle both, but meh. Try unloading distance first and see how it works for you.
    Has never been an issue for me until right after the update. Very odd.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pldhighlulu View Post
    Has anyone noticed difficulty with leveling abyssea mob groups up? Yesterday my ls and me were gonna go aoe kill chigoes for quick exp. When we arrived all the mobs were popped as EP so when we aoe killed them a bunch of chests would pop but 0 exp. well after an hour later (and 5 or 6 tunga repops that we had to kill) those chigoes had barely leveled up to DC mobs and were only giving 20 per kill. needless to say that run did not work.

    however when we swapped to worms and were killing them they leveled up from dc to IT within 2 or 3 kills (so like 10-20 minutes).

    has anyone actually encountered the chigoes in attohwa as IT's since the update? is there something i'm not understanding about the way mobs level up?
    They changed the mechanics such that mobs depop and respawn at a lesser level if not killed. Perhaps you were taking too much time between Cleaves?

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