New Job Traits & Abilities (12/7/10)

[FailureMidgard]

And how does someone get 1shotted anyway? What the fuck does more than 2k damage?

OSHIT! That is pretty useful then! For one type of mob in the game.

Bukhis (after HP down procs esp).
Iron Giant (Weakness).
New Khimaira (Weakness).
Hedjedjet (If someone misses a stun).
Carabosse (If you don't want to carry MDT gear / don't get re-shelled fast enough . . . not that nin has shit for MDT anyway).
All 3 +2 dropping NMs in Attohwa -can- (Hadal Summons, Fire Break, Slaverous Gale).
Calamitous Wind maybe? Not sure on this one TBH.
??? Needles (nin seems far and away the best tank for that cactuar now).
AV Meteor (maybe other meteors...Hadhayosh perhaps?).

I'm bored, I could list more I'm sure though. It seems like a pretty nice/solid spell. I haven't fought a lot of the new NMs in Heroes zones (only done the 3 boss clears, Hedjedjet, and 1 Iron Giant as far as t2+).

Edit: Had to add, new Caturae that people are making sound super hard?

[Deader2818]

Wouldnt it be good for Galvoid too?

[FailureMidgard]

Wouldnt it be good for Galvoid too?

My list was in no way meant to be complete, just a quick "comes to the top of my head" type thing.

[Foldypaws]

What's "PLD"?


And how does someone get 1shotted anyway? What the fuck does more than 2k damage?

Trisitia's spikes, before they patched it >_>

[Atoreis]

Now whats matter if max hp is based on HP w/o cruor buffs or after? Probably body enhance will lower the % of you hp that need to be done to 75% like scherzo. I quess i will go test this myself and will post results.

ewwwwwwwww.... Cruor buffs count so its a lot less useful :/. Wears off after it proc. I have 3k hp on NIN so its hard to be hit by 3k but there is a lot of attack that do 2k+. Idk maybe with Alpha and Omega or w/o cruor buffs for some fights like this scorpion that do Death scissors for 2,6k and thats his only treat. All my hope is body lowers % to like 75% but more likely it will make it works 2-3 times before wearing instead.

[Clave]

Surprised it hasn't been mentioned yet, but Counterstance seems unaffected as a sub. It also doesn't seem to increase counter rate of Third Eye with Seigan. Might be worth subbing in EXP as SAM with Hasso.

[rog]

Surprised it hasn't been mentioned yet, but Counterstance seems unaffected as a sub.

You mean it works like normal?

[Clave]

Right, counter rate was ~50% or more, eyeballing.

[rog]

Ah, ok. I figured. Definitely sounds awesome for sam, and nin. Potentially war too, but ehhh, not sure.

[Karbuncle]

Bukhis (after HP down procs esp).
Iron Giant (Weakness).
New Khimaira (Weakness).
Hedjedjet (If someone misses a stun).
Carabosse (If you don't want to carry MDT gear / don't get re-shelled fast enough . . . not that nin has shit for MDT anyway).
All 3 +2 dropping NMs in Attohwa -can- (Hadal Summons, Fire Break, Slaverous Gale).
Calamitous Wind maybe? Not sure on this one TBH.
??? Needles (nin seems far and away the best tank for that cactuar now).
AV Meteor (maybe other meteors...Hadhayosh perhaps?).

I'm bored, I could list more I'm sure though. It seems like a pretty nice/solid spell. I haven't fought a lot of the new NMs in Heroes zones (only done the 3 boss clears, Hedjedjet, and 1 Iron Giant as far as t2+).

Edit: Had to add, new Caturae that people are making sound super hard?

Hyad's meteor is actually really weak, only problem is curse armor right before it if you don't turn quick enough.

You can also add the tier III VNM in La'Theine to that last. IDK What move it used on me as MNK, but it did roughly 2300 damage, admittedly not a 1 shot if i was at full HP, but it wrecked me pretty hard.

[Darkmagi]

His manafont meteor can hit for quite large amounts of damage, easily in one shot ranges depending on max hp iirc.

[FailureMidgard]

Hyad's meteor is actually really weak, only problem is curse armor right before it if you don't turn quick enough.

You can also add the tier III VNM in La'Theine to that last. IDK What move it used on me as MNK, but it did roughly 2300 damage, admittedly not a 1 shot if i was at full HP, but it wrecked me pretty hard.

He has 2 meteors. Ecliptic is weak. The real Meteor can do 2k+. Also, curse -should- make Migawari proc more often...so go nuts meleeing his curse spikes?

[Sho]

Just tested on beating up a Jala with Ultimate-Atma reduced HP. Tidal Wave (magical dmg) was annulled as anticipated.

[Atoreis]

He has 2 meteors. Ecliptic is weak. The real Meteor can do 2k+. Also, curse -should- make Migawari proc more often...so go nuts meleeing his curse spikes?

I was trio it today and yeah Migiwari worked well on 600hp and mateor :D the only problem is that he can follow this meteor with some tp move and migiwari wears off after one use. didnt happen to me tho and it was smooth. On the other hand its so easy that Migiwari was only used for fun.

[Kidnoftle]

I was under the impression that migiwari didnt prevent magical death? Was fighting the t3 Ifrit vnm in altep and AF most certainly killed me with migi up :c

[Sho]

I was under the impression that migiwari didnt prevent magical death? Was fighting the t3 Ifrit vnm in altep and AF most certainly killed me with migi up :c

Maybe it wore just before AF landed on you. >.>'

[Kari]

So nobody has found a real use for Striking Flourish?
I've tried using it with various WSs every now and then, no noticeable difference.
So I'm thinking...either, A> The buff from the AF3 piece is amazing, B> I'm doin' it wrong, or C> SE gave us an effectively useless skill.
If it's C, I'm hoping for a "fix" like they did with Presto when it was deemed mostly useless.

[Auronku]

Regarding Enmity Douse, I hadn't seen anyone else report this but it seems to lead to a wiping of claim acknowledgment on Key Item mobs along with the Enmity wipe. Had a Black Mage claim Impervious Chariot and use Enmity Douse during the course of the fight without it ever going unclaimed. Proced Red !! and Black Mage received no key item. Double-checked with everyone in the ally and noone else got it either. So, if you're on Black Mage and trying to get Key Items off NMs don't use Enmity Douse.

[Massimo]

That's .. not right. Our BLM used Enmity Douse yesterday after claiming and still got the key item. Someone fucked up.

[Auronku]

Dunno then, did the same thing second time sans the Enmity Douse part and he got the Key Item just fine. Possible someone's too lazy to check their chat log right, but noone else in the alliance already had the Key Item and everyone claimed not to have gotten it.