Abyssea - Altepa

**NynJa** · 2011-01-04 04:57

Only problem is Orthrus has some form of hate reset, which if youre lowmanning can become an extreme nuisance. I was able to tank it fine on my thf, wasnt even bothering with evasion gear/atma/utsu...but then it howled and completely forgot I existed.

Then again, every fucking mob in Heroes seems to have some kinda hate reset

**Massimo** · 2011-01-04 05:01

It resets hate on everyone when it howls.. I usually just voke on WAR, but as long as the mages stay off the big cures 'til you've landed a weaponskill, it's not an issue at all.

**Kirschy** · 2011-01-04 12:37

We did like 9 of these in a row last night. Gonna agree /w Massimo in that it seemed like a full hate reset. I just timed my voke so it would land shortly after the howl animation was finished and it rarely moved from it's spot. In terms of damage taken, I solo tanked all of them on MNK/WAR /w counterstance, hit me for around 300-400 and /w a good MDT set nothing was landing near 1k except for it's unique move it gets at the end (Acheron Flame). Took like 300-1400 damage, seemed to vary a lot or I was resisting. I think it would be easy to low-man, except your current jobs aren't optimal at all. Mostly agree with Salmi in that the killing it will probably be long and drawn-out.

**Atoreis** · 2011-01-04 12:45

Originally Posted by Massimo

It resets hate on everyone when it howls.. I usually just voke on WAR, but as long as the mages stay off the big cures 'til you've landed a weaponskill, it's not an issue at all.

So that's why it sometimes turned to mages w/o moving ..lol. I quess on NIN I hit too fast to lose hate for more then sec

**Zag** · 2011-01-05 13:32

I have a question on Hedjedjet. We had the ladybug NM at 100% and the the other Scorpion NM at 100%. Hedjedjet under tier 3 is also at 100%. I saw him up yesterday but now the ladybug NM is at 50%.

If the Dominion OPs drops and it no longer 100%, does Hedjedjet depop as well?
Some people are telling me it has to STAY 100% for the NM to pop but other people are telling me that once you pop a certain NM in a zone, that its permenant and will always be up even if the other NMs decay down in percentage in Dominion OPs.

short version: So ladybug is at 50% now but was 100% at one point. Well hedjedjet be unspawnable or will he spawn still.

**Foldypaws** · 2011-01-05 13:37

Hedjedjet has definitely spawned on my server when the ladybug was at ~60%. I don't know what would make her stop spawning, but it's not that.

**Zag** · 2011-01-05 13:49

sweet.... very nice info thank you very much. I seen it up 2 times yellow in the wee early hours of the morning when noone is online.

I was planning on using atma of apoc and fast cast:superior atma.
sub /nin. Nuke on blm with fast cast and hope that atma of apoc procs get a lucky stagger then brew him for 3 coins. If i die.... reraise x100 with apoc atma and nuke him again till it proc. too lazy to do 6 more bennu.

**NynJa** · 2011-01-05 13:51

Dont quote me on this as I might be wrong, but I'd believe it works like so:
Push T1 to 100% to load up its subsequent T2. As long as T1 is at 100%, T2 will be available. In order for T2 to despawn, it will have to drop to 0% and T1 not be at 100% either. Same rules for T3 apply, once T3 is up, it'll be available as long as it's not at 0% or the T2 is at 100%.

**Salmijr** · 2011-01-05 15:32

It was in the update notes that if lower tiers were to drop to 0, the NM would stay up but get stronger. Dunno if that only applies to standing NMs, force pops, or both.

**NynJa** · 2011-01-05 16:37

Originally Posted by Salmijr

It was in the update notes that if lower tiers were to drop to 0, the NM would stay up but get stronger. Dunno if that only applies to standing NMs, force pops, or both.

This is accurate, http://www.playonline.com/pcd/verup/...etail.html#012

*The exact quantity of foes and NMs will differ for each group.
*The Resistance's sphere of influence will diminish over time if players do not keep up the attack. Notorious fiends that have appeared will remain on the battlefield, and will see their powers burgeon as the enemy's influence grows.

I probably overlooked that since at the time I had no idea how dominion really worked, and never re-read the notes after understanding the system.

Does that mean though that NM's will never depop?

**Arthars** · 2011-01-05 21:37

well, theres a case that T2 chariot dissappeared for at least 3 days because T1 chariot dropped to 0%....

the T2 chariot's name even became ????? but says its at 100% lol

T1 chariot was at 0% that point of time

it was after maint, so yea...NMs will depop

**Zag** · 2011-01-06 05:57

That explains Rani and Hedjedjet getting a little weaker at 100%. When they were lower percentage, they were nearly impossible to kill. Getting Rani below 30% without much problems now but he is still tough.

Hedjedjet is at 100% still and so is the other scorpion NM. Its just the damn ladybug that keeps decaying. Maybe the NM was simply killed. I need to camp a full 20 mins with widescan before I can see if it still pops or not.

**Massimo** · 2011-01-06 06:19

No. NMs will not depop. For the 16th time, the only reason the NMs in Altepa depopped, was because they were bugged since the release of Heroes, in the sense that they were up without being properly unlocked. After that maintenance, people had to get the required NMs/ops to 100% before they would properly pop again. It was that one time, nothing else.

**Rehn** · 2011-01-07 01:03

Planning on brewing cuijatender... is it still possible for him to outright kill me with ??? needles?

**Ocara** · 2011-01-07 01:20

Originally Posted by Rehn

Planning on brewing cuijatender... is it still possible for him to outright kill me with ??? needles?

Unless you use fanatics or something it can do (way) more than 9999 damage with ??? needles and that'd kill you brew or not. I'm not sure if fanatics even blocks it.

**Kirschy** · 2011-01-07 01:40

Originally Posted by Rehn

Planning on brewing cuijatender... is it still possible for him to outright kill me with ??? needles?

Last time I killed it, I was doing the calculations backwards and getting 20k for the initial damage. So assuming it doesn't have some random mechanic to it, it'll probably do 20k damage to one person and kill you /w brew =p

**Foldypaws** · 2011-01-07 01:47

It definitely doesn't simply do 20k damage. I got hit for nearly 64k from it. And then 30k once, and 52k another time, and then most recently it only did like 7k spread across 3 people.

It is random like whoa.

**NynJa** · 2011-01-07 01:50

Shouldnt Fanatics block it though being physical?

**Foldypaws** · 2011-01-07 01:54

Theoretically, but it's never used ???? needles when I've had a fanatics up.

**Rehn** · 2011-01-07 02:00

Guessing ~50k HP health for cuija? Or is it higher? Good info also, thanks folks, luckily I got a fanatic laying around.

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