Abyssea - Altepa

**NynJa** · 2011-01-20 02:03

Dragua's Wing is definately 30'

**Francisco** · 2011-01-23 00:47

Killed Rani tonight... had a bit of a fuck up when trying to deaggro it.

We got it to ~35% before damage went to the toilet. We all exited the zone except for a PLD and someone else. Rani took off after that other person, and wound up regening back to 100%.

Upon retrieving Rani, a few interesting things happened.

1) She didn't cast Meteor again til under 20%.

2) Didn't come close to regaining any serious PDT.

3) I died at one point, came back and dropped a 2350ish damage Victory Smite on a 22% Rani. Seemed to gain "some PDT" after 50%, but once I came back, it was gone.

Not sure if this is because we "broke" the PDT by making it deaggro - and she simply can't regain her PDT once she loses it... or if it has to do with individuals zoning.

Also of note - she seemed to only absorb spell based status effects like Protect and Shell... she wasn't able to steal Counterstance - which was a huge relief.

**Fievel** · 2011-01-23 01:05

She does meteor at 50%, 40%, 30%, 20%, and 10%, once she's done it, she doesnt redo it.

That was known afaik

the pdt is interesting though, unless you guys just killed fast.

**Foldypaws** · 2011-01-23 02:17

Originally Posted by Francisco

Also of note - she seemed to only absorb spell based status effects like Protect and Shell... she wasn't able to steal Counterstance - which was a huge relief.

It's not only spell based, she absorbed my Magic Attack Bonus from an Ascetic's Tonic when I brewed her on THF once.

**Fievel** · 2011-01-23 02:18

Originally Posted by Foldypaws

It's not only spell based, she absorbed my Magic Attack Bonus from an Ascetic's Tonic when I brewed her on THF once.

Fucking lol that had to suck

**Sylvrdragon** · 2011-01-23 02:22

Originally Posted by Fievel

Fucking lol that had to suck

<.< I'm guessing it made the fight take 40 seconds instead of 30. Must have been brutal man.

**Fievel** · 2011-01-23 02:23

Originally Posted by Sylvrdragon

<.< I'm guessing it made the fight take 40 seconds instead of 30. Must have been brutal man.

I was more so refering to how meteor probably hit him 20 instead of 15, actually.

**Martinius** · 2011-01-23 03:59

Originally Posted by Francisco

Also of note - she seemed to only absorb spell based status effects like Protect and Shell... she wasn't able to steal Counterstance - which was a huge relief.

when i'm tanking her, she steals aggressor from me all the time (which is actually fantastic because it floors her evasion, and her acc is already capped). she's also taken focus, dodge, zerk and defender off of me. my theory is that she can't absorb any JA that would cause her to act outside of her job parameters, which is to say, she can't counter, retaliate, or, i dunno, assassin's charge.

**Restrat** · 2011-01-23 10:47

she stole sublimation: complete as well

**Ramses** · 2011-01-23 13:17

Has anyone ever had a manawall stolen? Rani with manawall would be very amusing. I've had a lord varney that stole manawall and we did indeed have to beat through his entire mp pool before we could damage him. It was the longest lord varney ever, but was pretty funny.

**Holyman** · 2011-01-23 13:29

Originally Posted by Ramses

Has anyone ever had a manawall stolen? Rani with manawall would be very amusing. I've had a lord varney that stole manawall and we did indeed have to beat through his entire mp pool before we could damage him. It was the longest lord varney ever, but was pretty funny.

Can't you finale/dispel those buffs ?
I don't remember Lord Verney being immune to dispel/finale , or Rani for that matter as well.

**Cream Soda** · 2011-02-20 11:25

I'd assume I could just curebomb war + whm on Hazhdiha, or am I going to need to sub nin, shadows, etc? Will be doing war + whm key item x2, swap to mnk Dragua x2.

While I'm at it, anything to look out for when going duo? Should war sub cut it or will I have to go for the shadows? etc. I've fought it before, just not with 2 (not to mention I sux at dual box lol)

**Kilorilo** · 2011-02-20 12:23

Hazhdiha is easy, WAR/NIN(more triggers) + WHM should have little/no problems. For Dragua I only duoed it once WHM/RDM MNK/WAR without any issues, I used its atma on both characters and with barspells the chance of the WHM getting stoned is extremely low, should you need to you can kite it I'd assume around the pillars near there as it doesn't seem to do flail, or its just a lower chance than normal wyrms.

Average fight time was 10-13min with only MNK or WAR DD

**Cream Soda** · 2011-02-20 12:26

Alright, thanks. I have his atma for my main char, as far as the mule goes, I'm buying heroes on it today, so that'll come w/ time.

I'll go war/nin for triggers, but going to test out if I can just blast through it w/o using shadows since the shit is like 100k for a toolbag on my server last time I checked.

**Fottiti** · 2011-02-20 12:46

For dragua duo there is a degree of luck involved. I've done it several times with mnk/war + whm/blm using horned beast atma on whm to reduce chance of terra wing's petrify. Even on mnk using 3 DD atma terra wing has a very low chance of causing petrify with just barpetra, however if it does land on the whm you will want a full stock of cruor meds to survive until it wears off (you can also kite as well, it casts very often, no enhanced movement speed and pathing is great due to its size).

It is probably just due to increased tp frequency but every single time I've been petrified by wing was below 25% and if it lands on both of you it will likely kill you. Whenever you can get a thf/whm or some mule standing outside the 30' range but within casting range of your whm to prevent any potential bad luck wipe.

Hazhdiha is definitely doable without shadows as war/nin and you can always do ni if you get low after it takes all your buffs, gold box farming is also a pretty good way of getting the KI for heroes zones with enhanced lights etc. if you wanted to stay in the zone during a day off work/school, and cata-cleave then change atmas back for dragua.

**Thorny** · 2011-02-20 14:29

catholicon isn't only self target, mnk can use that on whm

if it happens twice, you probably have a cleric's drink somewhere as well

just rebuy catho each fight if you're paranoid, it doesn't land much at all

(or do what i do: bring a thf/whm and stand Dragua-Mnk-20'-WHM-20'-THF)

**Cream Soda** · 2011-02-20 16:33

Earth wyrm or allure for the whm? only has 2 lunars

**Samonez** · 2011-02-20 16:35

you should probably focus on getting your third ASAP before you worry about farming other NMs.

**Cream Soda** · 2011-02-25 13:27

There a secret to Hazhdiha's hate reset? I find it tougher than Dragua cause the shit's always going after my whm

**Fottiti** · 2011-02-25 13:40

After around 40 draguas I haven't figured out exactly how it works but it seems to gain some sort of very rapid hate decay after using tp moves (not after every tp move). I can cure 6, pull hate on whm, voke it back on nin then cure 5 right after and it will go right back on whm, normally after I voke a cure 5 or 6 won't pull hate. Its never caused my whm to really come close to death with 2k hp but it is annoying.

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