Abyssea - Uleguerand

[Kidnoftle]

I thought apedemak also leveled up if it kills a player. Seemed to happen alot when I tried 4manning it and couldn't keep up living through fulm spam.

[ronin sparthos]

Off the Khim topic but relevant to the thread:

What are the typical strats for Pankorator? Ive seen everything from a kite strat to claims of an easy 3man.

[Kidnoftle]

Uhm pankrator is pretty straightforward: 4legs form = magi, 2legs form = physical. It heals it if you ws/dmg during its tp shots and use magic on it during its casts. Courtesy of akatora's info pank will have a random chance to 2h when you heal it. From what I've seen that % chance is pretty low. Switching between forms seems to be on a timer as well as coming off a 2h. 4legs form 2h is chainspell, 2legs form 2h is HF. Chainspell is slightly dangerous if your healer falls behind or misses a heal, in capped mdt-% I still got hit for around 500-1k depending on spell. Otherwise it has about 60k hp.

[Scrooge]

Haven't fought it extensively a normal way, but it's only ever changed forms from 2hr'ing in the instances I've fought it. Personally, seems like it's not a random chance of 2hr'ing upon healing, rather a certain threshold of healing that triggers it. Could be mistaken, but it always seems if someone fucks up with a big weapon skill, it'll always do it.

Whether it is hard or easy comes down solely to how good or bad your melee/tank is at turning properly and not healing it. If you suck at it, it's gonna be a rough fight. If you're good at it, it's a piss easy fight.

Somewhat related note, unlike most mobs, this one does WS during hundred fists.

[Massimo]

Uhm pankrator is pretty straightforward: 4legs form = magi, 2legs form = physical. It heals it if you ws/dmg during its tp shots and use magic on it during its casts. Courtesy of akatora's info pank will have a random chance to 2h when you heal it. From what I've seen that % chance is pretty low. Switching between forms seems to be on a timer as well as coming off a 2h. 4legs form 2h is chainspell, 2legs form 2h is HF. Chainspell is slightly dangerous if your healer falls behind or misses a heal, in capped mdt-% I still got hit for around 500-1k depending on spell. Otherwise it has about 60k hp.

Nahh. It doesn't cast on 2 legs and everything heals it during its weaponskills. On 4 legs it casts, and everything heals it during casts, nothing during weaponskills.

To the post above - we've had it been healed and trigger* from something as low as 500 damage, while over 2k from a melee round didn't. I do however always see it when a weaponskill ends up healing it though, so it's either a higher % chance the more damage you do, or it's just glitched for us a few times.

[Aihree]

I thought apedemak also leveled up if it kills a player. Seemed to happen alot when I tried 4manning it and couldn't keep up living through fulm spam.

Yes, I actually saw this happen last night. Shocked the heck out of me, given that one of my group enjoys being killed, reraising with Apoc atma, and continuing to fight. *lvUP* *lvUP* "OMG get out of there!"

[Odin'sLaw]

Nahh. It doesn't cast on 2 legs and everything heals it during its weaponskills. On 4 legs it casts, and everything heals it during casts, nothing during weaponskills.

To the post above - we've had it been healed and trigger* from something as low as 500 damage, while over 2k from a melee round didn't. I do however always see it when a weaponskill ends up healing it though, so it's either a higher % chance the more damage you do, or it's just glitched for us a few times.

seem's to be the same with the "mini byakko" in there also it can Perfect dodge at any time but will PD more often if you hit it during a tp move but won't always happen this zone seem's a little gimiky but easy to figure out

[Darkmagi]

Will only PD if you heal it. Has only happened if i wsed or hit it more than a couple attack rounds out of 20+ kills though.

[Odin'sLaw]

Will only PD if you heal it. Has only happened if i wsed or hit it more than a couple attack rounds out of 20+ kills though.

i've had it pd from a 21 damage heal from a thf not turning fast enough (weak bitch) but anything that heals him gives him a slight chance of perfect dodging

i know it can perfect dodge at any point at least once on 3 fights it perfect dodged at 25% w/o readying a tp move at all but this was the first time it had perfect dodged at all during these fights

[Alkimi]

Yeah, just try not to heal while at low HP. We made him chainspell at around 10% and he just spammed Thundaga IV and made mincemeat of all our DDs.

[Anomander]

Also, if shock spikes cause Apademak to level up, then that may have been the source of my previous woes. I'll try using AF2+2 body next time...

It definitely can, we found this one out the hard way.

Interesting to read that he can level up from killing someone. We did one the other night and couldn't figure out what caused it to level up. It may have been that, as our thief tends to go in for TH poke on the same side as the dd's and get raped (atma of the apocalypse makes me not care about this on most things). We eventually chalked it up to a skillchain possibly doing it, does anyone know if that can trigger the level up?

[Byrthnoth]

It definitely can, we found this one out the hard way.

Interesting to read that he can level up from killing someone. We did one the other night and couldn't figure out what caused it to level up. It may have been that, as our thief tends to go in for TH poke on the same side as the dd's and get raped (atma of the apocalypse makes me not care about this on most things). We eventually chalked it up to a skillchain possibly doing it, does anyone know if that can trigger the level up?

If Shock Spikes can level him up, it seems likely that Skillchain damage could make it level up. Impaction, Fragmentation, or Light would all be potential candidates for Thunder damage.

[orson]

What are people's luck with Pankorator and it drops? Do you pretty much need blue to get a Zelus Tiara? Also I haven't really done any chest farming in Uleg but can you cleave most of his pop set? In comparison to Rani is this thing actually all that tough? To be honest the first time we fought Rani it was pretty much a complete joke.

[OdinBlaize]

The only key items you can get out of big gold chests in this zone are for Resheph and Isgebind. The two needed to pop Pantokrator need to be farmed from their respective lesser NMs.

[Tarubaby]

What are people's luck with Pankorator and it drops? Do you pretty much need blue to get a Zelus Tiara? Also I haven't really done any chest farming in Uleg but can you cleave most of his pop set? In comparison to Rani is this thing actually all that tough? To be honest the first time we fought Rani it was pretty much a complete joke.

If you don't get blue, don't expect it to drop. Hell, even with blue and TH procs I still haven't gotten one :/.

[orson]

If you don't get blue, don't expect it to drop. Hell, even with blue and TH procs I still haven't gotten one :/.

So your average blue rare drop like 20-40%?

[Kidnoftle]

It's probably around 60-70% w/ blue and at least TH 7. It's about as hard as rani I guess... not really sure what constitutes hard anymore but yeah everything it has is pretty manageable by anyone with mdt/pdt/eva sets. Could honestly probably duo it whm nin, although that could get shitty if you proc chainspell at a lower %. 4-6 people should have no problem.

[Ihina]

We're 2/4 kills with blue. About as hard as Rani pre-50% that doesn't rage at all with CS ga4's being the only actual threat if it goes off.

[Anomander]

We're 2/4 kills with blue. About as hard as Rani pre-50% that doesn't rage at all with CS ga4's being the only actual threat if it goes off.

Pankrator is all about positioning. He has one massive conal move and a couple large aoe moves. The key is getting your supports set up so that they can heal the dd/tanks without getting hammered. I recommend more than one tank as it can hate reset.

[Thorny]

blue seems to be +50% to anything not effected by grellow, the only reason shinryu drops are rarer is because they're a shared slot

personally 3/4 on zelus tiara, but worrying about droprate with blue is silly