Some TH Testing

[Fallyn]

Perhaps it's just harder to proc the further you go beyond your tag TH.

That's what I believe:

The effectiveness of the THF job trait "Treasure Hunter" now occasionally increases with each melee attack landed. Further, damage dealt with either the "Sneak Attack" or "Trick Attack" ability will have a greater likelihood of enhancing this trait.

Cap haste, land high dmg SA/TA and you'll occasionally get an increase. The further past your gear/atma #, the harder/less likely to gain.

[Enedin]

If the TH calculations remain the same as they once were (for the original traits, never done tests with extra items), it's an extra roll per level. I doubt that though, would make drop rates skyrocket at some point.

[Kuishen]

Just coming in to confirm that if there is a cap, it isn't only +2 or 3 based on your gear. Today on the Corse nm in Attohwa, hit level 8 with TH4 (TH 1+2, AA, TK, no Atma). Took a long time to get to level 8, the thing was almost dead. THF isn't quite up to date with new gear, but at 75 it was hot shit, by no means gimp though. So I'm going to agree with Fallyn. Even if there is a cap, it's probably high enough that nothing will live long enough to be able to reach it, unless it is able to regenerate health.

It might be worth testing on a mob like Glavoid or Ulhasdhashdashi to see how high it can go without raging it.

Also, while fighting the eruca nm in Attohwa, it used a TP move and I was still whacking away at it and got a TH proc while it was still absorbing hp. So it seems all you have to be doing is hitting the mob to proc them, not actual damage.

[Sylvrdragon]

So it seems all you have to be doing is hitting the mob to proc them, not actual damage.

Phew, good thing. A lot of THFs were starting to worry that they might have to do actual damage.

[Zeb]

Someone check to see if a ranged attack works for setting an initial TH.

[Foldypaws]

Someone check to see if a ranged attack works for setting an initial TH.

Casting a spell does, I can't imagine a ranged attack would work any differently.

[Arkabix]

Just hit an 11. Same setup.

Where there other any other THF or /THF? Was anyone else using a +TH tarutaru sash or dread atma? Was there a ranger using bounty shot? Was blue or other !! triggered?

[Rhealana]

Where there other any other THF or /THF? Was anyone else using a +TH tarutaru sash or dread atma? Was there a ranger using bounty shot? Was blue or other !! triggered?

Only me. Proc yellow !! at different times.

[Byrthnoth]

Sooooooo... if there isn't a cap and chance of upgrades is influenced by TH items, does this mean Thieves will be TPing in TK and Ass Armlets?

[Hanyoko]

Sooooooo... if there isn't a cap and chance of upgrades is influenced by TH items, does this mean Thieves will be TPing in TK and Ass Armlets?

bad/lazy ones will be

Tag with TH gear on; then fight in real gear as the "proc" is only a +1 regardless of TH+ gear

[seiji]

bet TH gear is also higher proc rate

[Jogikat]

bad/lazy ones will be

Tag with TH gear on; then fight in real gear as the "proc" is only a +1 regardless of TH+ gear

I don't think that is correct. Again, I'll test it later 2 night, but if you want TH to upgrade, you need to keep at least either TK or AA on. You can't remove 2 pieces of TH, it just won't upgrade. Also, I can confirm that Dread Atma is +1 TH, but I think we all knew that. Went TH6, added atma, first upgrade ding was 8, which means baseline started at TH7.

[pancakesandsex]

So does the base start at the first thf to tag the mob, or does the base go up when another higher TH+ thf to tags it before the first additional effect proc?

[NynJa]

One thing I've noticed, that kinda irks me...the TH effect is an add effect...does my add effect from mandau block it? >.>

[Jogikat]

So does the base start at the first thf to tag the mob, or does the base go up when another higher TH+ thf to tags it before the first additional effect proc?

I'm gonna go do some of this stuff now. So things to test that I came up with: (can post any other ideas if u have them).

1. does RA count as a tag
2. If you die, does TH stay on.
3. Does it matter who tags first?
4. if you die, RR, then melee again what happens to upgrades.
5. How high can u get upgrades to go.
6. What happens when 2 or more thfs are on a mob, do upgrades add up together?

[seiji]

if i understand well it take the higher TH value,cant lower :
ex1 start with a THII, proc twice (th4), a new thf hit in TH6 gear, new value is 6, next proc will show 7
2, start in TH6, switch to lower th lvl, next proc will be 7.
3: start with TH5 gear, proc, new thf in TH6 gear hit=> no effect (unless his hit proc)

[Cream Soda]

Try zoning and coming back

[Byrthnoth]

One thing I've noticed, that kinda irks me...the TH effect is an add effect...does my add effect from mandau block it? >.>

I'm fairly sure a Thief friend last night was getting Sambas and still leveling up TH on Ovni, so probably not.

[AzazaelFenrir]

Maybe I missed it, but is TH considered on after first successful action, or first message?

[Kasandaro]

Something else to test - if the mob survives long enough, will the additional effects wear of, decreasing the TH back to the base value?