Fishing thread

[goodr]

Place holder for fishy stuff later

Sweet Spots
Hammerhead Shark - Cedarwood, one notch above the middle
Bianaq Bream - Cedarwood, one notch above the middle
Ash Tuna - Middle, default notch

[goodr]

reserved

[miokomioko]

I was going to suggest that sweet spots be listed as +5 through 0 to -5 I'll update this post with all the fish's sweet spots and favored tackle I've discovered once I remember them.

The Black Shroud

Yug'ram Salmon: -2
Crayfish: -2

[Hiroishime]

is there list somewhere what baits does what? thinking of starting fishing

[miokomioko]

Each fish has their favorite baits now, and as far as I've seen, very little has been researched on that topic. I'm too drunk to start listing things, but I know of some bait/fish combinations that will work. Even if a fish doesn't favor a bait, you can still catch them with it. Fish/bait favored combinations are just more likely to bite.

[Jamison]

So Truth of Seas doesn't seem all that impressive right now... what was it before the patch? I thought all the gathering classes had the "same" rank 30 ability. I have to admit I wasn't looking forward to getting FSH to 30 for it.

[miokomioko]

Yeah, I'd say 'Truth of Seas' is pretty much poo considering how common it is to gather shards in the first place... I think I get some shards maybe 2/3 of the time already. Until they make crystals and clusters available through gathering, there's something wrong with you if you're focusing your gathering efforts on collecting aetheryte. When I can kill a single, easy-prey Hoverfly Swarm as a rank-27 Pugilist and have it drop 2 different crystals and 16 of 3 different shards... there's some pretty bad imbalance going on with gathering.

So far, I've purchased every available Fisher ability outside of 'Dowse IV' (I skipped it) and the final 'Master of Fish' (no access yet). 'Clever Arc,' on the other hand, is pretty damn awesome. It's great for gathering either at nodes past your rank or trying to grab those difficult items that take multiple hits. Optimal Rank: 1 is not too shabby either.

Right now, on all three gathering classes (FSH-31 BTN-15 MIN-15) I generally always keep on:

Clever Arc (slows remainder decrease rate)
Way of Plenty (start with more remainder)
Nature's Bounty (more rare shit)

[Purplenv]

Red Coral = -3
Blue Coral = -3

[MakinBaconNeked]

Hammerhead sharks are fairly common outside of boat dock. -2 with floating minnow

[goodr]

Boat Dock? Ferry? On the Uldah end?

[miokomioko]

Yeah, there's a small spot you can ocean fish at the Thanalan ferry docks off the edge of the cliff, after you enter the gate, just before you step onto the docks (since you can't actually fish on the dock itself). You'll have to come from Limsa Lominsa to fish there, I think, or else the ferry will take you away.

[Jamison]

Yeah, there's a small spot you can ocean fish at the Thanalan ferry docks off the edge of the cliff, after you enter the gate, just before you step onto the docks (since you can't actually fish on the dock itself). You'll have to come from Limsa Lominsa to fish there, I think, or else the ferry will take you away.

Haven't done it myself, but I believe you should be able to log out and back in, after you go through the gate, and you won't be registered for the ferry.

[miokomioko]

Ah yes, that would make sense. Hadn't dawned on me, thanks. :3

[MakinBaconNeked]

Yeah, there's a small spot you can ocean fish at the Thanalan ferry docks off the edge of the cliff, after you enter the gate, just before you step onto the docks (since you can't actually fish on the dock itself). You'll have to come from Limsa Lominsa to fish there, I think, or else the ferry will take you away.

Thanks for clearing this up for me :D

I was actually talking about outside the gates but you are right you can fish inside too if you either come from LL or log out and then back in after adding your name to passenger list. The easier route is right outside the gate though if you arrive there coming from Uldah.

[goodr]

So it appears there are different sweet spots for different regions (e.g. Thanalan, The Black Shroud and La Noscea). Should we tentatively also note the nearest camp? E.g. Cedarwood, Bloodshore, etc?

[Diggler]

Skull Valley - Coral Butterfly (+3), Tiger Cod (+2), Sea Cucumber (-4), Malm Kelp (-4), Razor Clam (-4)
Bloodshore - Bianaq Bream (+1), Rothlyt Oyster (-4), Malm Kelp (-4), Sea Pickle (-4)

[goodr]

https://spreadsheets0.google.com/ccc...Lg&hl=en#gid=0

Great source of info from the disciples of the land site. It also has sweet spots, but not the area where they're found.

[miokomioko]

Small notes on lure/fish combinations that I will continue to (slowly) update:

Chocobo Fly: Crimson Crayfish
Crow Fly: Rainbow Trout
Snurble Fly:
Wildfowl Fly:
Vulture Fly:

Crayfish Ball:
Bass Ball:
Crab Ball: Bianaq Bream
Goby Ball: Bianaq Bream, Sea Pickle, Rothlyt Oyster
Herring Ball:

Bloodworm:
Moth Pupa:
Pill Bug:
Lugworm:
Rat Tail: Crimson Crayfish, Blue Coral
Syrphid Basket: Blindfish, Bone Crayfish, Crimson Crayfish, Ala Mhigan Fighting Fish, Yugr'am Salmon, Box Turtle, Velodyna Carp, Northern Pike
Midge Basket:

Floating Minnow:
Sinking Minnow:
Spoon Lure: Haraldr Haddock, Hammerhead Shark
Cage Feeder:


Feel free to mention any fish/bait combinations where you got "The fish are biting at your ____" message and then found out what fish you had on the line via catch or loss.

[Jamison]

Here are (what I thought) were the posts most of interest from the mining thread:

This message was new for fishermen:


Obviously I didn't see what it was, but I got these messages while using chocobo flies in Cassio Hollow. This was within a few minutes of fishing so it could be a regular occurrence now.

Velodyna carp isn't terribly rare, so I'm not sure what the message means. Only second one so far.

I got the message on Helmet Crabs at a Grade-2 spot. I think it might just be a message for the generally rarer items from a given spot. I imagine you'd get the message hooking a dart frog inside Gridania.

I collected a few more examples of the new fishing message.

[14:52:26] The fish seem to be biting on chocobo flies.
[14:52:28] Something big hits your line!
[14:52:37] The fish has tired, but you still cannot reel it in.
[14:52:46] You reel in your catch!
[14:52:50] You fish up 2 crimson crayfish +3.


[15:11:49] The fish seem to be biting on chocobo flies.
[15:11:51] Something big hits your line!
[15:12:00] You have hooked something but cannot reel it in.
[15:12:08] The fish has tired, but you still cannot reel it in.
[15:12:17] You reel in your catch!
[15:12:21] You fish up 2 crimson crayfish.

[15:15:28] The fish seem to be biting on chocobo flies.
[15:15:30] Something big hits your line!
[15:15:44] You reel in your catch!
[15:15:47] You fish up 3 crayfish.

[15:19:48] The fish seem to be biting on chocobo flies.
[15:19:50] Something big hits your line!
[15:20:02] You reel in your catch!
[15:20:05] You fish up 2 crayfish.

As you can see, the samples all occur closely together and don't appear to have any special loot associated. : /

I was doing a rank-30 leve at Humblehearth and it went something like this:

something big > first jig was dead center and hit the fish > bone crayfish (rare)
something big > first jig was dead center and hit the fish > bone crayfish (rare)
something big > first jig was dead center and hit the fish > blindfish (rare)
something big > first jig was dead center and hit the fish > bone crayfish (rare)
something big > first jig was dead barely missed the fish > blindfish (rare)
something big > first jig was dead center and hit the fish > blindfish (rare)

(never moved the depth gauge from center, and I don't think I was even on any sweet spots)

Noticed new wording on the "Truth of..." series of abilities.

Truth of Seas now says "Ensures one or more crystals whenever an item is obtained by gathering."

Hmm looks like each of the "Truth of ..." abilities are different now.

I had just noticed that they changed the wording on some of these abilities. I feel like Veteran's Trade is even different (more vague) than it used to be?

Oh, by the way, Goodr... The message "The fish are biting on your _____s" means that whatever fish you pull up after that message favors that bait/lure.

It was something in the last patch that kinda' got buried which also explains a lot of my trouble catching normally easy crap since. They said they "adjusted" the relationship between fish and tackle. I guess it's going to be a lot more like FFXI fishing although using the "wrong" bait doesn't completely exclude fish that don't like them, just makes them rare as shit. Kinda' sucks for inventory issues as I was getting used to just carrying a couple stacks of whatever bait and 99 of the same lure.

Now every fish is going to have variables like...

Fish 1
Regions:
Zones:
Water Type:
Grades:
Depth:
Favorite Tackle:
Difficulty:
Rarity:

Nice find!

Oh boy. I have mixed feelings about that - probably for the same reasons (inventory; I carry 1 stack of 99 chocobo flies and 1 stack of 99 floating minnows). But it's nice to be able to focus in on a particular fish I guess. Hmm

Yeah, and I still don't know what that "something big hits your line!" message means. I'm suspecting it's just a new, highest 'level' of a bite on your line and has nothing to do with rarity/jig location/size. Nothing Bites > Nibble > Bite > Something Big in terms of likely hood that you'll hook it on your initial jig. Maybe. I'll test it through some excessive Waits sometime if I get bored enough.

I want to know what grade you can fish blue and red coral and how rare it is when using the right bait for it. I need thousands of the stuff.

I've seen buttloads of Blue at Skull Valley with Red being somewhat rare. Cederwood, however has Red pretty common. I'm not entirely sure, but I think inanimate catches (kelp, marimo, coral, etc.) don't have any tackle preference so you'd have to just focus on where it is on the depth as well as trying to use bait/lures that none of the rest of the fish prefer (which still has a lot of testing involved to verify).

Good info.

It sucks I had to level miner for GLD skill and now I have to level fishing too lol. I've no interest in playing fishing class. But coral is the only reasonable way to get to 50.

Cedarwood node fishing gives both red and blue coral, and there are two spearfishing nodes in the immediate area to reset the triangle, and start again.

Info,
Rank 22 fishing
Bamboo Fishingrod
Lugworm bait
Must use fishing node, which will result in a limited number of catches, then you will need to reset the node.

Red/Blue coral sweat spot, was towards the bottom. iirc it was down 3 from default.
Swing meter was always far right.

Caught two stacks in a very short period of time.

GL

Good info... but grade 4 at R22? Sounds a bit early lol.
I'll have to level fishing once I burn through this obsidian and chakram mats.

It is early, and great SP.
With higher rank, I would have higher success.

I tested it last night, and got 13 Coral in 1 hour last night.
Also having to keep in mind, that since its node loot only, that you need to reset the triangle on other nodes.

[miokomioko]

Rereading my posts, it looks like "something big" means a fish that prefers your bait bit your line because I think I've only seen that message following a "the fish are biting on your ____"