Mass Effect 3

[Obev]

Fuuuck's sake Sony. Fix this shit. I want my freebies!

[Odin'sLaw]

Fuuuck's sake Sony. Fix this shit. I want my freebies!

here here!, why is it so difficult for you to go "ok world you want some free shit that doesn't effect us at all? take it!"

[Tomino]

Probably late to the party, but I wanted to add a few feedbacks to the ending as well.

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As for the indocrination theory, this is an issue I see:

- The whole thing being an illusion would leave the real Illusive Man out of the picture, which would feel very weird since he's a crucial character.
Also, Bioware concept arts for him in ME3 reveal they wanted to make him look like an hulking synthetic monster. Probably used for the final boss battle.
They then scrapped the idea, because they wanted him to remain human. With that, they probably dumped the whole boss battle idea. (source: ME3 artbook).


As for the choices, aka Bioware trademark wheel:

- I get that the Blue choice is for Paragon, which feels good (Reapers are gone) and has heroic sacrifice in it.

- Red choice is for Renegade, since it has guns and a "kick-ass" feeling.
But I still dont get why creating the extra sequence with him alive. It really confuses me as it makes this ending look like the best one, while Renegade choices usually aren't.

- Green choice is the expected - complete the game 100% for extra candy - ending.
But it's very weird. They wanted something like a win-win situation (in fact, problem is kinda "solved") but I feel something got wrong in the writing, and many fans disliked the whole idea, thus depriving this ending of its special qualities.

Sorry for the interruption, now back on ME Multiplayer.

[Pendulum]

Control ending:

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[Tomino]

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Most people criticize the Destruction ending because it would kill all geths as well as EDI.
BUT there has been a whole part of the game about AIs becoming living beings, plus EDI herself tells you she feels alive for the first time thanks to you.

In fact, you can survive the Destruction ending, tho the starchild hits you should not since you are half synthetic. So maybe the "additional ending" could add a part showing geths were spared, effectively making the Renagade ending the best one available.

[Obev]

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Most people criticize the Destruction ending because it would kill all geths as well as EDI.
BUT there has been a whole part of the game about AIs becoming living beings, plus EDI herself tells you she feels alive for the first time thanks to you.

In fact, you can survive the Destruction ending, tho the starchild hits you should not since you are half synthetic. So maybe the "additional ending" could add a part showing geths were spared, effectively making the Renagade ending the best one available.

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Yeah, there was that thing with Legion showing the team how its upgrades were making its networked AI more like a "living" being than mere software, with that graphic that looked a lot like a neuron instead of a circuit diagram.

[Tomino]

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Things they could be adding to the ending to "add closure":

CONTROL ENDING
- Visually clearify the fact that the relays in ruin but that they did NOT explode.
This really isnt clear in the movie. and would make the blue ending feel more "positive".

- Show blue Shepard in some kind of astral form saying his final goodbye. Making that his sacrifice was for the best.

- Explain if Shepard actively controls the Reapers, or if it's just a sacrifice to endlessy stall them into doing nothing.


DESTRUCTION ENDING
- Explain if the relays explode or not. Given how much destruction a relay can cause (see Arrival), this would basically turn the red ending much more negative.


SYNTHESIS ENDING
- Same relays issue : did Shepard basically reset half of the galaxy, killing billions in the process and starting a new hybrid world?

[Ragnus]

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With all of the endings I assumed that the energy from the relays were spent on the converting force or selectively destructive force. Remember that if you don't have enough EMS the destroy option does scorch the entire galaxy of all life whether its synthetic or not.

[Lonely]

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At the pax thing they already clarified that the mass relays don't destroy all shit with it. Just the internal thingymagiggybob from the pulse make them stop working. EDI and the Geth are Pinocchio stories and they don't get affected either by the Mac Walters artistic integrity blast.

Just got the N7 Wraith. How can they make a weapon this bad and put it in that category. Shit, its inferior to the Geth Pulse Shotgun is every single way.

[Tomino]

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So the Renegade ending still comes out on top, doesn't it? Reapers destroyed, everyone saved and you're alive and kicking.

Still feels very weird, since other Renegade choices are lying to krogans, genocide the geths, etc...

[Ragnus]

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The whole ending thing seemed kinda off since it's been pointed out that destroy is the Anderson choice and control is TIM's choice when both of those figures were the symbols of the opposite moral sides.

[Elcura]

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The whole ending thing seemed kinda off since it's been pointed out that destroy is the Anderson choice and control is TIM's choice when both of those figures were the symbols of the opposite moral sides.

Yeah, it's almost like the endings weren't thought out at all.

*GASP*

[Anoat]

D.C. Douglas, voice of Legion and also Wesker from Resident Evil, made a video for the fans. What would happen if Legion and Wesker teamed up? AWESOMENESS.

[Odin'sLaw]

my Krogan vanguard died during a charge attack when i got revived i was walking in space and just been fodder (couldn't attack or shoot anything and my team was telling me they could see me flying through the air as well)

[Kuya]

That happens with all vanguards.

[Odin'sLaw]

That happens with all vanguards.

so its a known glitch then? (thought it might be a krogan glitch )

[Nuriko]

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The whole ending thing seemed kinda off since it's been pointed out that destroy is the Anderson choice and control is TIM's choice when both of those figures were the symbols of the opposite moral sides.

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As has already been discussed, this is part of the IT. They're screwing with you. They reverse the colors to make you NOT choose destroy, which is actually the supposed right choice (you resist being indoctrinated) since it's the one where you end up alive. My guess was that the future DLC would be a continuation after finally resisting indoctrination, waking up and finishing the game properly. Basically in my opinion they released an incomplete game where they leave us guessing until the DLC comes out. Again, just my opinion, and certainly see both sides of the IT angle, but at this point I like the IT theory best, even if it could just be a series of coincidences.

[Ragnus]

so its a known glitch then? (thought it might be a krogan glitch )

Happened on my Vanguard also. I had to drop the game since I as 20 feet in the air and pretty useless since I only had a shotgun and couldn't charge at things anymore.

[Rulke]

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The whole ending thing seemed kinda off since it's been pointed out that destroy is the Anderson choice and control is TIM's choice when both of those figures were the symbols of the opposite moral sides.

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To me, it just feels right to destroy the Reapers. I'll blow that conduit up every playthrough. The continued rape and destruction of "advanced" organic life ever 50k years by Reapers is a pathetic "solution". If you assume the starchild is legit and was once organic him/her/itself then he was smoking crack to think that was a good idea.

[Ragnus]

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I don't regret taking the destroy option one bit either. Synthesis and Control were off the table right from the start since Saren and TIM wanted those and they were both batshit insane / indoctrinated. Even if the IT is false, I don't regret sacrificing the Geth, synthetic parts of myself, and EDI to stop the Reapers for good.